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Aracaju777

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Man, several hints that something bad is going to happen to Amber and Liz
- The news that several twins are disappearing
- They said that their father got a new job in place of a billionaire who does very well (It can only be Langdon)
- the Shopkeeper offering those strange jewelry in exchange for the twins" water"???
- And at the end the father's call to the MC warning that the danger really is related to Langdon Wilson
My guess? Langdon is kidnapping twins and forcing them to become superhumans for some reason. Probably Amber and Liz will be kidnapped and gain powers related to water ???
 

bloodaxis

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Man, several hints that something bad is going to happen to Amber and Liz
- The news that several twins are disappearing
- They said that their father got a new job in place of a billionaire who does very well (It can only be Langdon)
- the Shopkeeper offering those strange jewelry in exchange for the twins" water"???
- And at the end the father's call to the MC warning that the danger really is related to Langdon Wilson
My guess? Langdon is kidnapping twins and forcing them to become superhumans for some reason. Probably Amber and Liz will be kidnapped and gain powers related to water ???
Twins probably has to do with the twin apostles, because they want to possibly have them merge their powers and make the amalgam power, like how authority+power=order. I am assuming the shopkeeper is like a literal demon or some shit, him being referred to as "fiend" likely has some significance, and I think whatever he gave liz and amber is going to protect them. The fact that his dealings are give and take verbal contracts lend credence to him being a more stereotypical demon, he can't give anything for free, there needs to be give and take, but in this case he just wants something easy to give so he can help out regardless.

I hope other like Drako and BloodAxis manage to sort their own thoughts out so we could go wild with speculations cuz the wait will be hard.
I think I've got most of mine sorted out, there were a lot of questions cleared up in this update and not as many new ones, I'll leave the long posts to someone else however. :KEK:
 
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vogelbeest

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Langdon is kidnapping twins and forcing them to become superhumans for some reason.
Since the Apostles are twins and can't stay long on earth, it's more likely the captured twins bodies will be needed to keep the Apostles on earth permanently. The effigy's Ella was collecting most likely will be needed to make that happen.
Some sort of a ritual summoning the Apostles to either merge with these twins or possess them seems plausible.

As for the "water" shopkeep wants, i wouldn't ad much value to that, most likely it's just a joke ; shopkeep wants their used bath water.... ;) (come on, the dude sells dildo's and buttplugs,) The rings however might protect them from the ritual...
 

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As for the "water" shopkeep wants, i wouldn't ad much value to that, most likely it's just a joke ; shopkeep wants their used bath water.... ;) (come on, the dude sells dildo's and buttplugs,) The rings however might protect them from the ritual...
He also deliberates a little bit about what he wants as payment, water's probably just something they're able to easily give him because they happen to have some on them or some shit so they can actually do the deal instead of deciding they don't want to. I think the shopkeep has a soft spot in him for the MC and looks out for him/his friends as much as he's able, within the constraints put upon him (if it turns out he's an actual demon anyway).
 
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Ddlc

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There's more after that if you have over 25 corruption, it keeps going directly after the dead end 36 screen and goes on for a while still, then you reach dead end 37.
HOLY MOTHERFUCKING SHIT !!!!
I just used console command to increase corruption and see that ending and holy fuck it's insane, what the fuck is even Deus ?
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I guess it proves my theory though
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And even full regeneration can't save you from whatever Deus does.
Edit: I think that theory just got a lot more reasonable too
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HOLY MOTHERFUCKING SHIT !!!!
I just used console command to increase corruption and see that ending and holy fuck it's insane, what the fuck is even Deus ?
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I guess it proves my theory though
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And even full regeneration can't save you from whatever Deus does.
I don't think Deus power is necessarily full time travel, maybe it's just that he turned into a non linear time being, as in he experiences all of his life at the same time, but with concentration he can focus on specific points and become cognisant enough to affect them. With an added splash of clairvoyance, or he's just ran through myriad branching paths of his life so he knows where to be at the right time. Anyway, regardless of what he is truly capable of he's shown so far to be pretty damn powerful even compared to the other truly strong superhumans. If he can just go into the past to erase someone in that way without any effort, or at least it looked like no effort, imagine what he can do when he's pushed.
 
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HOLY MOTHERFUCKING SHIT !!!!
I just used console command to increase corruption and see that ending and holy fuck it's insane, what the fuck is even Deus ?
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I guess it proves my theory though
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And even full regeneration can't save you from whatever Deus does.
Edit: I think that theory just got a lot more reasonable too
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How to open the console command? My corruption isn't high enough and I'm intrigued to see this.
 

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Jesus fucking christ! I don't know how W.W does it but every single time they slap on an update harder than the last!

1. So what did I miss in this update? So far I got every new added scene EXCEPT for the last Misc gallery, you guys gotta help me on that.

2. The stats seem to be a little bugged at the moment, are there any indication to show if you got a perfect score against Deryl? If so, what is required to do so (Power is 91 Skill 27)?

3. I chose "left" in the hall way, leading to the Monster Mommy, and I had THE EYE from the shopkeeper deal, which she took to answer another question; is there anything I SHOULD'VE done or missed by asking, "Ella's plan" and "Monster God's"?

4. I spoke to Valravn (winning the duel) and inquired about everything including what the Monster Mommy said, I feel there was some stuff I missed on that but if not let me know (yes I went back and tried the other options).

5. Is the monster speech jumbles for everyone else beyond 20 Corruption or is that just the base line for how the dialogue was supposed to go?

6. I keep seeing a Deus image floating around, what's up with that?

7. If you choose the Horn are there any differences?
Last Misc scene is from Tiffany's wedding, you have to agree to have sex with her.

You say you got all the new scenes so could you help me by telling me how to get the one under "weird" second page all the way down to the right? That's the only one I couldn't get.
 

Ddlc

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How to open the console command? My corruption isn't high enough and I'm intrigued to see this.
Go to Superhuman/Renpy/Common
Open 00console
Ctrl+f to search "config.console"
change the variable "false" to "true
it should look like "config.console = True" when you finish editing then save
open console with shift+o
type "corrupt=26
Done.
 
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necromater

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Men so is deus MC child? Cus the time travel is kind of sus and they kind of give the same vibe thats Marvel shit right there
 
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Ella's Deal & Power

My current thought is that Ella made a deal with Number 4 in search of the perfect vessel, the one with the "Mr. Eye," which must be some higher entity than the apostles themselves, as he knows all of them, resisted the 1st, and now instructed us not to care about Number 5, 4.

He is sealed within the protagonist in the event that created the scars in the past because these beings cannot exist in this dimension in an ordinary manner. I also believe that the creature from "too strong too soon death" is part of the half-power of "Mr. Eye." This would explain how she easily defeated the avatar of Number 4, and Ella's terrified expression. She seeks power to control/govern everything, as that monster told us, while the mother, Number 4, wants to protect us from her and prevent the fusion of the entities.

Ella is already collecting those artifacts around the world in search of great power for herself, and possibly to carry out some important ritual, but with the main objective of finding the vessel of "Mr. Eye" and preventing the mysterious creature from achieving absolute power, which they must have already witnessed in Ella's past.
 

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Go to Superhuman/Renpy/Common
Open 00console
Ctrl+f to search "config.console"
change the variable "false" to "true
it should look like "config.console = True" when you finish editing then save
open console with shift+o
type "corrupt=26
Done.
You're a lifesaver, thanks!
 
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I do wonder if Ella actually understood what MC had become in Dead End 37. Does she know about the Eye or did she just assume he monsterified?

I loved the lore bombs like everyone else, but I similarly appreciate the additional insight on Ella. Knowing what she thinks of the MC from her perspective is huge.

So Ella and MC definitely knew each other as kids, but MC obviously doesn't remember because of his memory loss. The way Ella worded things, it suggests that her and MC were part of a larger group. My current assumption is that this group consisted of test subjects for monster stuff, which might explain how MC forged a connection with the eye.

I wonder if MC's dad is even his actual father? Did his mom actually die in an accident or is it just an excuse to explain the eye scar (which I'm 99% sure is how his connection to the Eye was forged)? Based on this theory, the dad might have been a researcher who experimented on the above-mentioned group, perhaps saving the MC as atonement? We do now have definitive proof that he's connected to monsters since the 6th Apostle just casually keeps him company.

On more power level-y topics: does anyone have a guess what our Power is like at level 3? Maybe around 150? It might not be a drastic jump since the lecturer mentioned that Level 3 is when your body can start to indefinitely stockpile power, which results in cases where you can rival Superhumans of higher level whereas it's generally not possible below Level 3.

Also, the "evolution high" Charlie mentioned? We know that after evolving, the connection to the monster parent is still fresh (MC casually mentioning that "Mother" thinks he would beat Cole, but then not remembering saying it), but does that mean their power spikes as well during that time? MC was incredibly powerful when fighting Monster Deryl, but outside of the evolution high, I wonder if he can reliably reproduce feats such as the spear cannon.
 

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I don't think Deus power is necessarily full time travel, maybe it's just that he turned into a non linear time being, as in he experiences all of his life at the same time, but with concentration he can focus on specific points and become cognisant enough to affect them. With an added splash of clairvoyance, or he's just ran through myriad branching paths of his life so he knows where to be at the right time. Anyway, regardless of what he is truly capable of he's shown so far to be pretty damn powerful even compared to the other truly strong superhumans. If he can just go into the past to erase someone in that way without any effort, or at least it looked like no effort, imagine what he can do when he's pushed.
Re-reading his dialogue he says things like
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also Mc says
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My conclusion is Deus power allows him to both see things through the timeline and travel through it to adjust his actions to achieve his goals but also
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vogelbeest

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Mc and Ella need to fuse to bring eye boy back
That's not needed, he needs to eat all other Apostles spawn... The eye is the father of the 3rd and 4th so no matter which one is your parent (could be the same as Ella's) his Line is always fully covered by him merging with you. ;)

Eidt : also i wouldn't really trust him, basically it seems to be his way of being able to permanently enter our world, he'll probably will just take your body and with that he has access to all Apostle "DNA" which means he's the only one out of the six (arbiters?) that has the complete "genepool"...
 
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bloodaxis

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Last Misc scene is from Tiffany's wedding, you have to agree to have sex with her.

You say you got all the new scenes so could you help me by telling me how to get the one under "weird" second page all the way down to the right? That's the only one I couldn't get.
That's the Liz ntr scene, you need to have done her ntr route, and presumably nuked the fat fuck that did it to her, then you see it at the bonfire night.

Re-reading his dialogue he says things like
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My conclusion is Deus power allows him to both see things through the timeline and travel through it to adjust his actions to achieve his goals but also
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I feel like he isn't a true time traveller in the sense that he can't go back in time to before he was born/monsterfied, but he is capable of "travelling"/focusing on specific points within that time. Maybe even a certain kind of causality twisting is part of his power set, him being able to attack you in the past, and the wounds directly manifesting on current you, maybe that's just WW visually showing that you're going to die, but it could also be that in essence he's attacking the current you directly, but through the old you, or he anchored current you to old you, hence your powers being cut off. Either way I really enjoy it whenever he shows up because he's an enigma, even more so than Ella imo.
 

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The eye declared itself as the origin of everything, that is to say, the one that exists prior to and superior to the apostles and all others. Therefore, the monster acknowledged its authority.

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Here he refers to the fact that on Earth there is a girl whom he needs in order to be complete. And who do we know possesses an even greater potential than ours? That's right, Emily... she is the missing piece for the eye to be whole. I can even speculate that she harbors the mysterious creature of death, "too strong too soon," within her. Screenshot_20230518-153055.png Screenshot_20230518-152606.png
 
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