VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Blizzard99]

Ella is probably MIA for the SIN team. Cole is probably leading them now. Damn- he's going to be insufferable when we meet him next time.

 

[Ddlc]

I agree, I don't think Ella would care about familial ties, it feels like Cole just isn't getting what he wants because all he is to Ella is a disposable tool that's soon outlived his usefulness. Iirc in the same scene she mentions the MC, just to get the dude jealous, so he's likely just another obstacle/whetstone to sharpen ourselves on.
Edit: Not the same scene, but she does goad him on later.

I think Ella does care about Cole in a way even if just as a little brother, but even on blood related family you can understand that someone is a total piece of shit, plus she can just not be attracted to him at all.

Ella is subtly setting up villains for our MC to fight to force him to get better (Kenny, Jake, Deryl, etc.). Cole seems to be the next on the list.

I just wish we can turn Cole and the cunt Jared to paste ASAP.

I'm not sure if all those were calculated
Kenny was a failed experiment she was too annoyed to try to fix, on a whim she said "meh, let Mc solve that will be good practice for him"
Jake was more like making both fight each other as a test and using the winner for her plans
Deryl seems an unexpected event, he wasn't supposed to fight Mc, he did because Jake's control was incomplete.
Edit: Cole is a different matter, she is setting up this fight, and betting on Mc too, at least to me

 

[Farajure]

Just a quick question, are there any plans for a wiki? i'm struggling to keep up with the lore of the game,

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[Blizzard99]

I'm not sure if all those were calculated
Kenny was a failed experiment she was too annoyed to try to fix, on a whim she said "meh, let Mc solve that will be good practice for him"
Jake was more like making both fight each other as a test and using the winner for her plans
Deryl seems an unexpected event, he wasn't supposed to fight Mc, he did because Jake's control was incomplete.
Edit: Cole is a different matter, she is setting up this fight, and betting on Mc too, at least to me

Yeah, I was incorrect about Deryl's fight in this update. But, Ella is setting up "tests" for our MC. First it was Kenny - a battle to see if MC was a successful experiment or not, then we had Jake - a match up to see how MC could handle Jake's very powerful ability, there was also the initial thing with Deryl (before monster form) - where she made him fight our MC to test him against someone who was just as versatile as our MC(wasn't that influenced by her?) and now it seems it's going to be Cole.

 

[bloodaxis]

I'm not sure if all those were calculated
Kenny was a failed experiment she was too annoyed to try to fix, on a whim she said "meh, let Mc solve that will be good practice for him"
Jake was more like making both fight each other as a test and using the winner for her plans
Deryl seems an unexpected event, he wasn't supposed to fight Mc, he did because Jake's control was incomplete.
Edit: Cole is a different matter, she is setting up this fight, and betting on Mc too, at least to me

They definitely weren't "calculated" since she's very chaotic and mercurial, more fortuitous circumstances let her not have to plan something to test us. She's (if it isn't a case of unreliable narrator) treated us in a way that she doesn't treat any of the other ones, either they get outright derision or apathy, we get something else, and I don't believe she's been outright lying to us either, just lying by omission, but I feel kind of confident that almost everything she's told us has been true.

Just a quick question, are there any plans for a wiki? i'm struggling to keep up with the lore of the game,

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A wiki would be great, someone just needs to make it, and that someone isn't me.

 

[vogelbeest]

Ella is probably MIA for the SIN team. Cole is probably leading them now. Damn- he's going to be insufferable when we meet him next time.

That's just another reason why Ella most likely escaped. Cole being leader seems a guaranteed way to fail, the Shen dude is on his 4th evolution, so he might be able to put Cole in his place, but even that is just a matter of time before it ends up with Cole killing people... That bunch needs regular corrections or they're gonna fight among themselves...

 

[Blizzard99]

One thing that I've noticed about our MC is that he usually takes three confrontations to beat a major villain:

1. Klaus - battle at the highway, confrontation at MC's house and the battle at Klaus' manor

2. Jake - confrontation at the party house (where Jake tries to mindwash our MC), confrontation at the prison (where Jake tries to mindwash our MC the second time) and the battle at the minister's house.

3. Deryl - battle at the minister's house, the second battle on the same day and the battle with the chimera. Although, one could argue that the second battle with Deryl should be combined with the first.

It seems the trend is going to remain the same for Cole: battle at the TV studio where Nico saves MC's ass, the Mexican stand off in the latest update... so it seems that Cole might be beaten during the next battle?

I just wish that there were more one-shot battles like the one with Valvarn. It just feels higher stakes cus our MC doesn't have his advantage of adaptability in such battles.

 

[Tyrranus]

so no one else is bummed by losin our crystal throwing bad bitch? man that was not cool

 

[bloodaxis]

I just wish that there were more one-shot battles like the one with Valvarn. It just feels higher stakes cus our MC doesn't have his advantage of adaptability in such battles.

I agree, I also prefer it when the MC wins without preknowledge of what he's going up against.

 

[vogelbeest]

so no one else is bummed by losin our crystal throwing bad bitch? man that was not cool

You can keep her alive.... It depends on the path you take and some choices during the fight with Deryl.

 

[Ddlc]

Yeah, I was incorrect about Deryl's fight in this update. But, Ella is setting up "tests" for our MC. First it was Kenny - a battle to see if MC was a successful experiment or not, then we had Jake - a match up to see how MC could handle Jake's very powerful ability, there was also the initial thing with Deryl (before monster form) - where she made him fight our MC to test him against someone who was just as versatile as our MC(wasn't that influenced by her?) and now it seems it's going to be Cole.

Yes i was thinking about the triple fight of Deryl/Jake/Mc, and the one when Deryl monsterfied, he just decided to face Mc on his own even whitout any orders from Ella.

They definitely weren't "calculated" since she's very chaotic and mercurial, more fortuitous circumstances let her not have to plan something to test us. She's (if it isn't a case of unreliable narrator) treated us in a way that she doesn't treat any of the other ones, either they get outright derision or apathy, we get something else, and I don't believe she's been outright lying to us either, just lying by omission, but I feel kind of confident that almost everything she's told us has been true.

I agree, she adapts while on the run and uses things that happen on her favor, besides planning stuff she goes withe the flow
And i also think she is surprisingly honest about the things she decides to say, even if she is at the same time secret as fuck.

 

[Tyrranus]

You can keep her alive.... It depends on the path you take and some choices during the fight with Deryl.

well.... fuck

this game officially needs a WT mod lol

 

[Blizzard99]

That's just another reason why Ella most likely escaped. Cole being leader seems a guaranteed way to fail, the Shen dude is on his 4th evolution, so he might be able to put Cole in his place, but even that is just a matter of time before it ends up with Cole killing people... That bunch needs regular corrections or they're gonna fight among themselves...

Yeah, I don't think she's dead either but she might be out of commission for a while. Also, she definitely did not update Cole and the others on the plans cus they all seemed bummed out at the end of the battle (thinking that Ella is dead). I'm guessing there would a brief power struggle where Cole and Shen might come to blows. It's likely that Charlie would bring peace into the ranks with her Order ability, although I'm not sure if she has the leadership material to lead SIN.

 

[bloodaxis]

It's likely that Charlie would bring peace into the ranks with her Order ability, although I'm not sure if she has the leadership material to lead SIN.

Where's her having Order come from btw, is it an educated guess or did I miss something?

 

[Ddlc]

Yeah, I don't think she's dead either but she might be out of commission for a while. Also, she definitely did not update Cole and the others on the plans cus they all seemed bummed out at the end of the battle (thinking that Ella is dead). I'm guessing there would a brief power struggle where Cole and Shen might come to blows. It's likely that Charlie would bring peace into the ranks with her Order ability, although I'm not sure if she has the leadership material to lead SIN.

I was under the impression that they don't even know about what happened to Ella, hexeringue just yeeted everyone out but did anyone of SIN made any comments about her "death" ?

As for Charlie i don't think she is a spawn of Order, that would be an arbiter and they are out of comission for now right ?
Plus i bet she will bail from SIN as soon as she has her brother safe.

On an unrelated note

 

[bloodaxis]

As for Charlie i don't think she is a spawn of Order, that would be an arbiter and they are out of comission for now right ?
Plus i bet she will bail from SIN as soon as she has her brother safe.

It'd still be possible as long as you get the traits from both of the twins from your set of progenitors, don't necessarily need to be in direct contact with the arbiter afaik.

 

[Blizzard99]

Where's her having Order come from btw, is it an educated guess or did I miss something?

Nothing but a guess. We have seen that her commands work over both allies and enemies alike. It's also different from Jake's ability, so I guessed that it wouldn't be Authority.

 

[bloodaxis]

Nothing but a guess. We have seen that her commands work over both allies and enemies alike. It's also different from Jake's ability, so I guessed that it wouldn't be Authority.

Personally I'd guess it would be some completely different power, more to do with hexes and rituals rather than the Authority line of things, but it is possible of course. Will be great when we finally get some more info about Ellas group.

 

[Tyrranus]

charlie's the type to be in charge by being the one behind the 'guy in charge' and pulling strings. She doesnt strike me at all as having the desire to be up front

 

[Blizzard99]

charlie's the type to be in charge by being the one behind the 'guy in charge' and pulling strings. She doesnt strike me at all as having the desire to be up front

I don’t think she desires to lead them. But, she might be forced to take up the leadership position to avoid an in-fighting between Shen and Cole. Atleast until Ella returns.