- May 4, 2017
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well.... fuckYou can keep her alive....It depends on the path you take and some choices during the fight with Deryl.
this game officially needs a WT mod
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Yeah, I don't think she's dead either but she might be out of commission for a while. Also, she definitely did not update Cole and the others on the plans cus they all seemed bummed out at the end of the battle (thinking that Ella is dead). I'm guessing there would a brief power struggle where Cole and Shen might come to blows. It's likely that Charlie would bring peace into the ranks with her Order ability, although I'm not sure if she has the leadership material to lead SIN.
Where's her having Order come from btw, is it an educated guess or did I miss something?
- Jun 22, 2017
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I was under the impression that they don't even know about what happened to Ella, hexeringue just yeeted everyone out but did anyone of SIN made any comments about her "death" ?
As for Charlie i don't think she is a spawn of Order, that would be an arbiter and they are out of comission for now right ?
Plus i bet she will bail from SIN as soon as she has her brother safe.
On an unrelated note
It'd still be possible as long as you get the traits from both of the twins from your set of progenitors, don't necessarily need to be in direct contact with the arbiter afaik.
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Nothing but a guess. We have seen that her commands work over both allies and enemies alike. It's also different from Jake's ability, so I guessed that it wouldn't be Authority.
Personally I'd guess it would be some completely different power, more to do with hexes and rituals rather than the Authority line of things, but it is possible of course. Will be great when we finally get some more info about Ellas group.
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I don’t think she desires to lead them. But, she might be forced to take up the leadership position to avoid an in-fighting between Shen and Cole. Atleast until Ella returns.
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Will be hilarious seeing Cole try to act like a leader and failing miserably.
I want that to happen so bad so i can be the one who put her down for good.
It is possible H.E.R.O. killed a clone or she can simply split herself into two. Latter seems very likely considering her regeneration powers. If an earthworm can do it so does she.
Also probably too late for that but i wish there were more "breasts" and less two weather baloons floating waist high. I am pretty sure most woman will suffer severe spinal issues few years on and there are no amount of superpowers that can save them from that.
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I'm not so much putting her down, more turning her into a slave, at least that's my current thought process after the run around and the "could you please tell me what's happening" "no" back and forth, she needs to be put in her place badly.
The girls just need big trunks to support their spines, like Aglaecwif.
DISCLAIMER: Despite the opinion expressed here, WW is by far one of the most dedicated developers on this site, and deserves all the support he gets. Superhuman is a far more coherent and enjoyable work by virtue of its plot (rather than just its pornographic content) than 99% of games on this site. And its porn content generally rivals its plot, which is saying a lot.
Ooof, I should probably keep my clearly very unpopular thoughts about this update to myself, but I'm drunk and feeling dangerous. My personal biases (opinions and literature experiences) heavily influence my enjoyment of this update, obviously.
The update, even if you ignore Aglaecwif v Laurie (which I don't wanna; my vote counts, godsdammit!), left me highly disappointed.
Michael vs Oscar and Michael vs Lightning Monster were dynamic fights with oodles of action and twists. Michaels' prep was ingenuous, and his tactics exciting. MC vs Valravn was even better. As far as I'm concerned, MC vs Valravn is the best fight we've had till date.
MC vs. Deryl, on the other hand? Reminded me of the GiantBossTM fights of the noughties, where you exhaust their moveset by dodging it, attack as they "recharge", and rinse and repeat. And find a safe space when it telegraphs its massive AoE. Very basic. And boring. I love Theoden's charge, but kill me instead of telling me about every hew and stroke of his blade during that charge.
Alice (and Laurie) vs The Bat was fun, albeit short. But the rest of their fights relied far too heavily on the Rule of Cool. "Look, Alice lvl2! So awesome!" Meh. MC's lvl2 was epic. Alice's was so telegraphed, I just wanted to be done with it. The same goes for Michael's powers, of course, although the latter is somewhat better as we realise he needs actual combat to develop. But, again, that was so obvious, I really did not derive much enjoyment from the scenario.
Ella's fight did nothing for me either... 2Bleach4Me, if you know what I mean. Even worse if she's actually dead, as it's a really disappointing end to one of my favourite characters. As I said, personal biases.
Now, before the next section, I should point out that I generally enjoy occasional exhibitions of MC's helplessness. I like the fact that he isn't (yet) the one ubermensch to rule them all. Nico casually kills him? Makes sense. Need lvl2 to fight MonsterKlaus? Duh. Valravn can stomp the unoptimised? Absolutely. Heck, I support lvl1 Deryl, given MC's injuries and Deryl's prep, taking on lvl2 MC. Narratively, I consider it a very logical culmination of the situation.
But Deryl got wanked to high heaven in this update. Let's get the meta out of the way: Deryl gets to impregnate milfylicious monster (regardless of consequences, because you can bet your arse he isn't dying due to that choice), save Laurie, and survive (in one form or another)? Fuck that noise. Imma cheat.
However, more importantly, Deryl should never have been the main boss for MC, let alone requiring lvl3! Even if he's a Variant, this feels like MC just grows way too slowly. MC already fought to a standstill against a low-level Deryl. This fight should have been an efficient curbstomp. Don't even get me started on the whole, "hesitation," bit. MC hesitates and immediately dies because, "Only the strong get to hesitate," but Deryl can hesitate and not get pulverised instantly by a lvl3 MC? Uh-huh... He became a Variant at lvl2. This is just far too much of a wank. And, before anybody else tries to point it out, yes, my frame of reference is a validation fantasy with the MC at its centre. That's simply how the game is structured. At this point, however, it feels like the best thing about the MC is, "Muh poWaH so spEsHuL!" The whole harpoon thing... made me groan. Might be an uncommon reception to the new move, but eh. To shift gears to meta, it feels like WW has lost steam with MC's powers, so he's started relying more on the Rule of Cool with EyeMC dead end. After months of prep, MC felt very undeveloped, as opposed to Deryl with prep. At this point... gimme MichaelMC or DerylMC, please. They're proper alphas. And I absolutely hate the whole alpha-omega terminology. It doesn't even hold true for wild wolves, let alone humans!
Also, to anybody who might think otherwise, I love Deryl. I would have my MC help him get with the harem of his dreams, even if it includes Alice. But I still need my MC to feel a bit special due to his own efforts/intelligence! So, if you want to agree with me just because you hate Deryl, feel free to do so, but know that I fundamentally don't agree with you.
I was hyped for the fight due to its implied scale, but, at the end of the day, I can't really consider it as anything more than, "quantity over quality." The fights could definitely have been cut down by a lot without loss of any information.
If you thought I'm heavily biased till now, hoo boy, will you hate the next section. So another disclaimer: The following sections are based purely on personal preferences. To a certain extent, the previous section can be considered criticism, but not the following section; it's just a rant.
At the end of the day... I'm an avid reader. So this game, despite its admirable plot (given the income of the creator), largely attracts me due to the addition of porn. But I'm not interested in NTR and FeMC (getting fucked; love futaMC). That leaves 3 scenes. Except one of them (Aglaecwif) is not legitimately obtainable. So I'm left with 2... Except, while FullNTRLiz is a bona fide badass (and semiNTRLiz is a fuckwit), RomLiz is probably the most boring character in the game. That leaves one scene... which is a boring handjob with Deryl's girl (bros before hoes, as Carefree247 pointed out) and another girl who is oversaturated with scenes. And the entire bonfire scenario felt highly out of place as it is narratively treated as the aftermath of the fight. Plus, in a situation where only certain girls would get scenes, I would have appreciated scenes with the more ignored girls (Angelina, Demi, etc.; and I don't even like Demi!). Not the most overrepresented characters, i.e. Liz and Alice.
Finally... I absolutely hate the direction of the game. The lore drops did very little for me. Some aliens, a rift in the ocean, and the Gods that the aliens worship. Leans more into, "MC powah so special," and less into, "MC pretty resourceful badass." (Michael, Deryl, and quite a few of the girls easily fulfill the latter condition and more). I believed (my fault, obviously) that MC would be the most important bastion against eldritch invasion because of himself, not his powers.
And... an arc about the twins? I like Amber, but she's a cliche, and I don't even like RomLiz. The only way I'm going to actually like the next update is if NTRLiz dies (might actually choose Liz NTR on main route), but I highly doubt that's going to happen. And, no, we're far too late into the game for the upcoming storyline to warm me up to them. Next update will decide whether I unsub from the game or not; sadly, I believe it will be the former. Shame, it's one of the few games on this site worth supporting.
I have not mentioned Laurie's death because others have already mentioned it. I agree with any opinion that suggests the whole scenario was massively contrived. MC should've easily prevented it, regardless of derylwin. MC et al should've terrified Jared out of his puny little mind. MC et al should've put Charlie et al on edge. This is just another example of MC getting lowballed for the plot.
I do not intend to defend this opinion (still might), so feel free to ignore it, hate it, or abuse it. But, if possible, definitely support WW. We need to encourage development of games of this quality. If you've read this part, thank you for reading an intoxicated idiot's rant... I need to get a life...
P.S. A bit of context: I am far more receptive to sci-fi graviton spheres and lasers than, "Animal Kingdom OP!" I am simply far to aware, from a very (very) young age that disproportionately proportional levels of strength/force are largely due to size and engineering, while not irrelevant, has a far more minor role. So, yeah, Mantis Punch and Mantis Harpoon are whatever.
Ooof, I should probably keep my clearly very unpopular thoughts about this update to myself, but I'm drunk and feeling dangerous. My personal biases (opinions and literature experiences) heavily influence my enjoyment of this update, obviously.
The update, even if you ignore Aglaecwif v Laurie (which I don't wanna; my vote counts, godsdammit!), left me highly disappointed.
Michael vs Oscar and Michael vs Lightning Monster were dynamic fights with oodles of action and twists. Michaels' prep was ingenuous, and his tactics exciting. MC vs Valravn was even better. As far as I'm concerned, MC vs Valravn is the best fight we've had till date.
MC vs. Deryl, on the other hand? Reminded me of the GiantBossTM fights of the noughties, where you exhaust their moveset by dodging it, attack as they "recharge", and rinse and repeat. And find a safe space when it telegraphs its massive AoE. Very basic. And boring. I love Theoden's charge, but kill me instead of telling me about every hew and stroke of his blade during that charge.
Alice (and Laurie) vs The Bat was fun, albeit short. But the rest of their fights relied far too heavily on the Rule of Cool. "Look, Alice lvl2! So awesome!" Meh. MC's lvl2 was epic. Alice's was so telegraphed, I just wanted to be done with it. The same goes for Michael's powers, of course, although the latter is somewhat better as we realise he needs actual combat to develop. But, again, that was so obvious, I really did not derive much enjoyment from the scenario.
Ella's fight did nothing for me either... 2Bleach4Me, if you know what I mean. Even worse if she's actually dead, as it's a really disappointing end to one of my favourite characters. As I said, personal biases.
Now, before the next section, I should point out that I generally enjoy occasional exhibitions of MC's helplessness. I like the fact that he isn't (yet) the one ubermensch to rule them all. Nico casually kills him? Makes sense. Need lvl2 to fight MonsterKlaus? Duh. Valravn can stomp the unoptimised? Absolutely. Heck, I support lvl1 Deryl, given MC's injuries and Deryl's prep, taking on lvl2 MC. Narratively, I consider it a very logical culmination of the situation.
But Deryl got wanked to high heaven in this update. Let's get the meta out of the way: Deryl gets to impregnate milfylicious monster (regardless of consequences, because you can bet your arse he isn't dying due to that choice), save Laurie, and survive (in one form or another)? Fuck that noise. Imma cheat.
However, more importantly, Deryl should never have been the main boss for MC, let alone requiring lvl3! Even if he's a Variant, this feels like MC just grows way too slowly. MC already fought to a standstill against a low-level Deryl. This fight should have been an efficient curbstomp. Don't even get me started on the whole, "hesitation," bit. MC hesitates and immediately dies because, "Only the strong get to hesitate," but Deryl can hesitate and not get pulverised instantly by a lvl3 MC? Uh-huh... He became a Variant at lvl2. This is just far too much of a wank. And, before anybody else tries to point it out, yes, my frame of reference is a validation fantasy with the MC at its centre. That's simply how the game is structured. At this point, however, it feels like the best thing about the MC is, "Muh poWaH so spEsHuL!" The whole harpoon thing... made me groan. Might be an uncommon reception to the new move, but eh. To shift gears to meta, it feels like WW has lost steam with MC's powers, so he's started relying more on the Rule of Cool with EyeMC dead end. After months of prep, MC felt very undeveloped, as opposed to Deryl with prep. At this point... gimme MichaelMC or DerylMC, please. They're proper alphas. And I absolutely hate the whole alpha-omega terminology. It doesn't even hold true for wild wolves, let alone humans!
Also, to anybody who might think otherwise, I love Deryl. I would have my MC help him get with the harem of his dreams, even if it includes Alice. But I still need my MC to feel a bit special due to his own efforts/intelligence! So, if you want to agree with me just because you hate Deryl, feel free to do so, but know that I fundamentally don't agree with you.
I was hyped for the fight due to its implied scale, but, at the end of the day, I can't really consider it as anything more than, "quantity over quality." The fights could definitely have been cut down by a lot without loss of any information.
If you thought I'm heavily biased till now, hoo boy, will you hate the next section. So another disclaimer: The following sections are based purely on personal preferences. To a certain extent, the previous section can be considered criticism, but not the following section; it's just a rant.
At the end of the day... I'm an avid reader. So this game, despite its admirable plot (given the income of the creator), largely attracts me due to the addition of porn. But I'm not interested in NTR and FeMC (getting fucked; love futaMC). That leaves 3 scenes. Except one of them (Aglaecwif) is not legitimately obtainable. So I'm left with 2... Except, while FullNTRLiz is a bona fide badass (and semiNTRLiz is a fuckwit), RomLiz is probably the most boring character in the game. That leaves one scene... which is a boring handjob with Deryl's girl (bros before hoes, as Carefree247 pointed out) and another girl who is oversaturated with scenes. And the entire bonfire scenario felt highly out of place as it is narratively treated as the aftermath of the fight. Plus, in a situation where only certain girls would get scenes, I would have appreciated scenes with the more ignored girls (Angelina, Demi, etc.; and I don't even like Demi!). Not the most overrepresented characters, i.e. Liz and Alice.
Finally... I absolutely hate the direction of the game. The lore drops did very little for me. Some aliens, a rift in the ocean, and the Gods that the aliens worship. Leans more into, "MC powah so special," and less into, "MC pretty resourceful badass." (Michael, Deryl, and quite a few of the girls easily fulfill the latter condition and more). I believed (my fault, obviously) that MC would be the most important bastion against eldritch invasion because of himself, not his powers.
And... an arc about the twins? I like Amber, but she's a cliche, and I don't even like RomLiz. The only way I'm going to actually like the next update is if NTRLiz dies (might actually choose Liz NTR on main route), but I highly doubt that's going to happen. And, no, we're far too late into the game for the upcoming storyline to warm me up to them. Next update will decide whether I unsub from the game or not; sadly, I believe it will be the former. Shame, it's one of the few games on this site worth supporting.
I have not mentioned Laurie's death because others have already mentioned it. I agree with any opinion that suggests the whole scenario was massively contrived. MC should've easily prevented it, regardless of derylwin. MC et al should've terrified Jared out of his puny little mind. MC et al should've put Charlie et al on edge. This is just another example of MC getting lowballed for the plot.
I do not intend to defend this opinion (still might), so feel free to ignore it, hate it, or abuse it. But, if possible, definitely support WW. We need to encourage development of games of this quality. If you've read this part, thank you for reading an intoxicated idiot's rant... I need to get a life...
P.S. A bit of context: I am far more receptive to sci-fi graviton spheres and lasers than, "Animal Kingdom OP!" I am simply far to aware, from a very (very) young age that disproportionately proportional levels of strength/force are largely due to size and engineering, while not irrelevant, has a far more minor role. So, yeah, Mantis Punch and Mantis Harpoon are whatever.
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Put into place? Eh, i think that place is six feet under. She treats life like the dirt under her shoes. She means to change things, but my impression is what she is trying to do is, because she could not felt like she will fit in the world as it is, she wants to burn it all and sit atop on the ashes.I'm not so much putting her down, more turning her into a slave, at least that's my current thought process after the run around and the "could you please tell me what's happening" "no" back and forth, she needs to be put in her place badly.
The girls just need big trunks to support their spines, like Aglaecwif.
I also stopped caring about porn aspect of the game with the reasons included in my previous post and it's just story itself is much more interesting.
I agree with you on most of what you're saying, to a certain extent and not necessarily to any large detriment in my enjoyment of the game. I was also one of those on the fence about the whole HERO business, but then this update things seemed to shift back a bit more towards eldritch/cosmic horror shenanigans which I love so I'm all on board for that. And I fully agree with you that regardless of how you feel about the game, WW's putting out quality work, and he actually works on his game unlike a huge chunk of the patreonbux crowd. I am not a massive fan of the player character constantly getting reminders that he's not amazing either.
All that said, I am still very happy with this update.
I get what you're saying. Personally I really like her as a character, as long as she's under my control and obedient and not running around causing chaos constantly. Her name even tells you everything you need to know, since she's basically a nine tailed fox type of character, constant drama and incredibly chaotic.
Sounded more like RealMom to me. Remember, that's a mystery that is yet to be solved, whether it reveals the MC's memories are fabricated or otherwise.
PSA: Valravn and Aglaecwif are unreliable narrators. Their beliefs are likely a distorted hint at the actual lore rather than than the reality.
Except, possibly, the Ocean of Strength. Both seemed very confident about that.
Unlike most people here, Outer Twins intrigue me the most. Even more than Arbiters.
Absolutely, mate, viva WW! And, yeah, just needed to get the rant off my chest. Twins' involvement has me apprehensive, but doubt next update will disappoint: it hints at heavy Alice+AliceMonPapa involvement (yay!), RealPapa involvement (yay!!), and Jeff can only mean more Brianna (yay!!!). Fingers crossed.
Oh, another PSA, but only for Pure (non-corrupt) route players: Make sure your last choice related to the helmet is to wear it. This prevents a lot of mandatory corruption gain, and even allows you to kill Wang without gaining any corruption. Don't understand? Well, basically, if you want to watch the news or browse your phone at night, that is perfectly fine. Just make sure that, if you only have the option to sleep with or without helmet, sleep with the helmet. That is enough. For now.
Follow-up to my previous post: As long as I'm wishing for unicorns, I hope we get an arc with depowered MC, with his original appearance. Might be completely devoid of sex scenes with MC (reactions to MC's original appearance from most characters is, "Eww!" and that's fine), but, after current update, I want to see MC... at least be awesome, if not a badass, without his powers. Alice, Michael, Deryl, Tess, Mia, Amber, Tiffany, Liz... pretty much everybody other than MC (and Dave and Jordan) is awesome without their powers, in one way or another. Need this for the MC too. He definitely has the motivation now.
- Aug 21, 2018
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Let's see if that makes pussyboy grow up and he stops being a Living joke because bitch gonna get caked if he doesn't.
- Aug 21, 2018
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So the twins gonna go superhuman next? Men shop devil being a pervert asking for water that means they are gonna get infected by a water monster neat XD
Strikes me as weird that you don't go back to the helmet choice after watching the news/using your phone.