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I have seen some of the comments mentioning you can save Laurie, but what are the exact requirements to doing so? She died whether I went left or right.

Also, does anyone else have a feeling Michael is going to overwhelmingly power-hungry and try to take us out eventually? It seems his desire to become stronger on his terms, by nearly any means is bothersome.
 
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but its so fucking stupid and out of character
Eh, they needed to continue the NTR somehow, and Liz is the only one with that Route rn. It is COMPLETELY out of left field the way it plays out (i.e her enjoying the MC watching them) but the start of it sort of makes sense (in a way). Liz is one not to care about herself (or really anything), so since she "kind of" already has an established relation with the MC knowing about her sexcapes, it makes sense for her to willy nilly throw out, "Ask the MC".



I don't know, this is why NTR is only good for it's art. The plots almost always either don't make sense, or are so ungodly unrealistic that it's laughable. Personally I don't like Liz as a character at all, I find her too bland and her whole "semi care" attitude just doesn't cut it for me, she literally is passionless (save for the confession). I respect that this makes her different than other characters tho make no mistake, just not MY cup of tea.
 
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Eh, they needed to continue the NTR somehow, and Liz is the only one with that Route rn. It is COMPLETELY out of left field the way it plays out (i.e her enjoying the MC watching them) but the start of it sort of makes sense (in a way). Liz is one not to care about herself (or really anything), so since she "kind of" already has an established relation with the MC knowing about her sexcapes, it makes sense for her to willy nilly throw out, "Ask the MC".



I don't know, this is why NTR is only good for it's art. The plots almost always either don't make sense, or are so ungodly unrealistic that it's laughable. Personally I don't like Liz as a character at all, I find her too bland and her whole "semi care" attitude just doesn't cut it for me, she literally is passionless (save for the confession). I respect that this makes her different than other characters tho make no mistake, just not MY cup of tea.
Could you imagine how bad a conversation between Liz and Nico would go? Nico with her hyper-aggressive nature vs Liz's complacent, lack of urgency personality?
 

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I have seen some of the comments mentioning you can save Laurie, but what are the exact requirements to doing so? She died whether I went left or right.

Also, does anyone else have a feeling Michael is going to overwhelmingly power-hungry and try to take us out eventually? It seems his desire to become stronger on his terms, by nearly any means is bothersome.
You need 1 point of derylwin to beat Hydra Deryl. Beating the red light monster and not hesitating are the only ways to get them. So you either can sleep with mommy and not hesistate against Hydra Deryl, or beat the red light monster and hesitate against Hydra Deryl to win the fight.

After Deryl completes his form, you need to gather 3 points of derylwin to save Laurie. One comes from having 28+ skill, another comes from instantly destroying the sword, and the last comes only if you have hesitated when attacking Deryl.

So the only way to get it, in order, is Right, Hesitate,| At this point derylwin points get reset |, (Automatic 28 skill check), Destroy the Sword, (Automatic Hesitate Point).

Explained it thoroughly since people have trouble with it.
As someone who had to reload to save Laurie i consider this public service.
 

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As someone who had to reload to save Laurie i consider this public service.
Saving Laurie really isn't that hard as long as you go Right. If you've been doing everything right up to this point you should have more than enough stats AND only have to go back through the Deryl fight. I feel like all the right options are obvious EXCEPT for the "Hesitate" which caught me off guard, it should be the opposite but oh well.
 

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Saving Laurie really isn't that hard as long as you go Right. If you've been doing everything right up to this point you should have more than enough stats AND only have to go back through the Deryl fight. I feel like all the right options are obvious EXCEPT for the "Hesitate" which caught me off guard, it should be the opposite but oh well.
The right choices made me remember of Valravn fight, you can guess pretty well just by the dialogue, but missing aglaecwif scene, now THAT caught me off guard.
 
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The right choices made me remember of Valravn fight, you can guess pretty well just by the dialogue, but missing aglaecwif scene, now THAT caught me off guard.
Right the first route I took was going "Left" and grabbing all of the lore despite missing the power and skill with the Eye Deal, but then Laurie died and I was PISSED like to a nauseating degree at Cole and Jared (still am even with saving her).

Depending on the future, if we don't get any psychical connection with Laurie like we didn't (or haven't yet?) with Danica; I may just let her die, as it was a very captivating and fitting end to the Massacre.

Then again, my issue is also the Eye, I love taking it, and I've always had a GUT FEELING that it's a better choice than the Horn. Giving it away to Aglaecwif could be a potential loss down the line. The way I see it, the MC is stupid, mind numbingly so; missing a bunch of info from her is stuff we could potentially figure out later on down the line, just a matter of patience. You also miss out on stats down the line because you ask the questions. To top it all off, you can't even ask all of the questions, so unless W.W implements knowing that info as plot changing, he'd have to do it for every single question and that just spirals into a huge mess.

My concern is the end of update message where a lot of the beginning choices of this will be major down the line. That could play into breeding with Aglaecwif, learning Ella's plan to prevent something, losing the Eye, having higher stats by choosing all the power of skill for a later fight, the list goes on.

I just wish the thought would leave my mind but one thing is for certain; this has been the hardest choice I've ever had to make in a game, second being choosing between the Horn and Eye.



Sidenote: My reason for liking the Eye is cause I think understanding monsters on a personal level is the key to getting more power. Sure it may Corrupt you and cost you not only public/gov opinions or lose some of your morals but oh well I don't really care about any of that to begin with. I REALLY loved the end of this update's Bonfire feelings choice after you get praised by everyone. You have the option to pick between liking it or hating it, and of course I chose hating it. But what I REALLY loved about it was what the MC said, like it was coming from my own head on how he only cares about using his power for himself and a select few others, rather than just being all for himself everyone else be damned. A Corrupt Harem Master is my end goal so having the power to protect people close like destroying everything else standing in the way even if it is morally wrong is the vibe I got and a perfect way to end the update.
 
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Tip; ask stop whining, we didn't know (Unless you asked earlier, we get wild in this thread).


I'm exclusively an android player and don't cheat, if you need a route I got you.
Firstly yup i did before one or two pages before thx anyway
Just tell me anything worth to try 0.95 in android (difference between 0.94) and is there any point in items in shop .
 
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I prefer petite women over busty ones. I wouldn't mind if our MC gets a sex scene with Mia.

That being said, she's the character that I'm least interested sexually. So, I wouldn't be too bothered if we don't have any sex scenes with her either.
 

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Nothing else'd matter as long as this fight happen. Full power Valravn the raven knight vs lv 5 Vorpal(hero code name) the peak evolution shapeshifter.
Or better yet having this guy joins us after we beat him again.
Vorpal is a pretty kickass name.

Personally I went with Shade because the MC is emitting this dark shadow energy smoke from his armored form.
 
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Firstly yup i did before one or two pages before thx anyway
Just tell me anything worth to try 0.95 in android (difference between 0.94) and is there any point in items in shop .
Sorry I was in a mood earlier, just reread my post and I'm a big asshole when I want to be, apologies.

As for the difference between 0.94 and 0.95 there is none. 0.95 is story progress (as is with most updates).

I don't know when you started this game, but essentially since launch the story and it's events have less so been expanded on, and more so just either been disconnected (finished) or processed into a later side part of the story. The NTR route got a little update towards the end of the current story of this version, you would have to replay the whole game up to the route to obtain it if yo didn't choose that route. That's been the only instance of a continuing miss out, other than that every event you can complete and obtain all the scenes (save for the female side you'd have to run 2 playthrough for some scenes, 1 for futa and 1 for female at least in the beginning).

There are little side paths in the game that you can explore depending on your choices, but the only thing you should focus on getting so you don't miss it on this linear path is:

AT THE BEGINNING (college grindset) focus on

-Deryl's/Cheerleader Plotline (Until you join the cheer team and tell your preference to Tess in the shower)
-Emily Plotline (Until you buy dinner for her and her Dad)
-Demi Plotline (Until she/he grinds her/his ass on your lap)

If you do the Deryl and Emily routes up to those points BEFORE meeting up with Alice for the poker party, you gain 2 sex scenes that you WILL MISS if you don't hit those 2 objectives, there are no redos as it is a plot point.

For the Demi one do up to that part of the route BEFORE the beach story event as if you don't I'm like 75% positive you'll miss the sex scene there with her/him. You should have more than enough time for this one than you would fitting in the other 2.



I mean as you play you'll get the gist, I would need to know exactly how you want to play in order to warn you about what choices to make when and where. But there are 2 primary routes:
-The Pure Path
-The Corrupt Path
With slight variations sprinkled in-between the 2. You could play the game murdering everyone and ending routes all together, or you can be an asshole but only sparing fuckables meat (like myself). I have an ENTIRE deep dive into the Corrupt Harem Master "route" I personally play that I can repost here, but that's a very specific way to play that applies to maybe only me, up to you.

There is no difference between PC and Android other than on PC you can cheat and Android comes out a tad later, a day tops if you know the right website (the bastards).


Tell me what you want to know specifically then I can help, otherwise I'm writing the next declaration of independence spreadsheet and spoiler alert; I'm not doing that unless I have a precise view on how YOU want to play the game. Pure, Corrupt, Harem, Neutral-ish, Power hungry, Monster/lore focused, etc. What's tricky about this game isn't really the routes, but how to obtain certain scenes or get certain lore, winning certain battles. Let me know, sorry if this was long.
 
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I prefer petite women over busty ones. I wouldn't mind if our MC gets a sex scene with Mia.

That being said, she's the character that I'm least interested sexually. So, I wouldn't be too bothered if we don't have any sex scenes with her either.
Yeah despite trying to sleep with everyone, I could honest to God live without Mia. She's kind of always been a pure side character there to be a moral high ground or whatever. There's Demi for petite and unpure, she's still friendly much like Mia, but I feel like she actually knows how to show off unlike Mia who is kind of just there features be damned. Great character! But I suppose not every character has to be sleepable, like I would never in good conscience sleep with Liz& Amber's Mom.
 
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