I was thinking that. Why would I give a single shit about the eugenics they did when it was specifically to help people survive being infected by monsters. Oh gee, they helped humanity survive they just didn't tell anyone they must be pure evil
. In the grand scheme of things I'd say eugenics is vastly preferable to all of humanity going extinct, which is what they're facing anyway unless they get like 10 more maliks/bernhards at the very least.
My true issue with it is that humanity as a whole had no choice in the matter it'd be a different situation altogether if the majority of humans said "Fuck it, lets do Eugenics to save our asses" but no HERO withheld the knowledge of monsters until relatively recently as we all learn.I was thinking that. Why would I give a single shit about the eugenics they did when it was specifically to help people survive being infected by monsters. Oh gee, they helped humanity survive they just didn't tell anyone they must be pure evil
I'm not trying to be rud but I'm getting mixed messages here bud. You aren't ethical or morally obligated to be a good person right, and you don't like people telling you what to do. I'm assuming this rule DOES NOT apply to the 3rd or 4th, as you said you're killing people (I'm assuming mainly because you feel like it) rather than because the 4th is encouraging you to. You like power too though, as it allows you to do whatever the fuck you want.Yeah, no, see this isn't the gotcha you think it is. One of your biggest mistakes is thinking I'm actually virtuous as a person when I literally said on several occasions that I would slaughter countless people for the 4th. It's like people forgot who they're talking to here and that I actually killed Demi for basically no reason. You're legit talking to someone with corruption brain rot.
They played around with our gene pool, generations ago. It had no negative impact on me or my friends in current times. Am I not a superhuman? Yes. So why the hell would I care about anything else not related to my own immediate surroundings? Once again, why should I give a flying fuck about their eugenics?
So yes, I don't care about the eugenics. You asked why we don't mention it often and I gave you my own reason to satisfy that curiosity of yours. It didn't affect me negatively or anyone I'm associated with so I don't care. Yes, it's irrelevant to me and trying to push it as something that's a huge problem is literally barking up the wrong tree. My tree, specifically.
It's no problem man lol. You can't help that I'm a murderhobo with even less morals.
I'm probably the biggest simp. All you have to do is look at my Lexi and Dani posts to see how down bad I was for those two. We don't even have to mention my busty mommy monster.
To be frank, in ME there was a lot of stuff working against them besides the Asari withholding that info. Like Cerberus playing keep away and doing genetic experiments themselves. With the Reapers and on humans, no less. Alliance Humans were no better either in there because they were motivated by greed and power for advancement as well.
Perhaps it has something to do with our resident clairvoyants? Deus lets some potentially harmful things happen (like giving Valravn his heart back) because "it's necessary" to reach the point in the future that he deems best, the captain of team Chronos probably also influenced the decision on doing things the way they did back then. Hell, if they were so keen on keeping the power and knowledge to themselves they wouldn't do the whole eugenic shenanigans to uplift a portion of the general public in the first place, just save the people closest to them and let the rest of the humans perish, it's not like they need the numbers when they have Lucius. Hmmm, now that I think about it, why didn't they use Lucius clones in the battle against SIN instead of normal soldiers?
Humanity as a whole can't JUST function with close family members. Most of them are already associated with H.E.R.O or the work in some way anyways. This is a group after power and influence, trying to create a monopoly of control over the next generation of "technology" with an iron fist. Whether it be Malik or Bernhardt, they are Lvl 5s, walking Gods that can do whatever they want if we oppose them.
Yeah a lot of stuff indeed is working against the races in Mass Effect I only mention the Asari in particular because that scene stood out to me (especially if you bring Liara I think she is optional for that mission) since she reacts in a hostile manner if Shepard (and whoever else you bring) mentions what the Asari did was wrong and it could of helped the situation against the reapers.
Ashley turned into a real cunt once she became a Spectre and even before that she was kinda annoying.
Fucking facts, honestly if it wasn't for her family's history of being in the Alliance I could see her totally joining up with Cerberus since some of the shit she spouts totally lines up with what Cerberus fucks with for real.
My only point of contention with the way HERO did things is that they didn't reveal it all way earlier like you said. And, as we've seen with vaccinations irl what would've been likely to happen if the gene modding was left to the general populace is for it to end up the same way. Personally, preventing someone going monster and killing potentially hundreds more and making them superhuman so they instead are able to fight said monsters takes precedence, for me anyway, over any ethical dilemmas one might have.
I think you're just misunderstanding my position really because I'm actually holding Ella accountable for the stuff she did. HERO has the resources to fuel my growth, in power and knowledge. Ella doesn't. That doesn't make me a HERO simp. That's just me taking full advantage of what HERO offered. Something which Ella can't do and won't because she prefers to hold all of her cards. SIN isn't a valid alternative to it either. I also said that I'll definitely break away from HERO when I'm strong enough to go independent.I'm not trying to be rud but I'm getting mixed messages here bud. You aren't ethical or morally obligated to be a good person right, and you don't like people telling you what to do. I'm assuming this rule DOES NOT apply to the 3rd or 4th, as you said you're killing people (I'm assuming mainly because you feel like it) rather than because the 4th is encouraging you to. You like power too though, as it allows you to do whatever the fuck you want.
Wouldn't you like Ella's helping hand in sending you victims? I mean she practically serves Jake on a platter and we all know Tiffany's power point and H.E.R.O oh so gracious help hasn't actually been fucking helping anyone, in fact it literally was holding Michael back
Ya don't like the disrespect or people close to you being harmed, yet actively ride the dick of H.E.R.O; who forced one of your people to nearly lose their arm and treated them like trash. Also liking Nicolette, who has not only proved USELESS in a fight, but also wanted to see you suffer a little more because she couldn't be bothered to help you in the first place. At least Ella sends shit at you to make you stronger, rather than just to test if you're even worthy enough to simp for her. On the topic of eugenics as well, what if your people want kids with you or something and can't because their DNA gets so fucked (if anyone can have kids with normal humans it's you).
I dunno I'm getting a lot of double sided stuff. Seems to me you don't like people stepping in your toes (i.e Demi) or telling you what to do/using you, all of which Ella, the 3rd, and the 4th, and H.E.R.O are all actively doing. Ella for her grand plan, and 3rd and 4th through corruption so you can go become someone you're not (Arbiter). H.E.R.O so you can be their fucking fleshlight mascot to fuck over if you betray them.
This is an Ella conversion message brought to you by; Ella Simp.
1. That's true yet on all fronts, and while H.E.R.O HAS all the resources/some knowledge to make you stronger, they haven't really delivered on your better ment have they? Rather, they've kept you in a cage and only let you out on your leash for when they need a podium mascot for THEIR agenda, rather than for your oh so valued convenience. On the contrary, the month you've been there you've learned less about your powers than you ever have the month you've been outside doing your own thing, or being trained by Ella. It was only AFTER they let you off your leash you finally Evolved, and that was a direct influence from, you guess it; Ella. I'd wager Ella also knows FAR more knowledge regarding monsters and what have you than H.E.R.O, as one of the ones she was housing game you more info than all of the fucking glorified library books stacked together, ya H.E.R.O's been a great help forcing you into their servitude. Only thing they got is that serum.
1. Completely wrong. HERO gave us information on monsters. Xanthe gave us spiders and other materials for our training. Rare stuff that isn't easy to come by at all that aided us in our upcoming battle. You failing to acknowledge that doesn't change what happened. Ella on the other hand has done absolutely nothing to aid your power besides teaching you to make metal. Something you would've learned any way, using you logic. If you told her anything else, she killed you. Meanwhile, you told everything to HERO and they looked for ways to improve on your power. Since Ella didn't do it or was involved, those don't matter, of course.
Jake was on the run from the authorities and then abducted by H.E.R.O. And a bomb was implanted in his heart so if he tried to escape or anything he'd die. So i wonder why he couldnt visit her.
Oh shit for real? I have never gone down the living Jake route so hearing all of this makes him a TAD redeemable. Still an easily manipulated backstabbing cunt tho.
He's recruitment wasn't really voluntary. But after the beach fuck up, he doesnt really make it right. He does lots of unethical, immoral shit and his singular goal is saving Mia. At all costs. And he returns her memory, know what that means for him. He didnt need to do it. But it was the right thing to do. Even though he figured it would cost him the thing her valued over everything else: Her friendship.
Michael, he's the big brother I always wished I had. Consistently throughout every update he is in he cares for those close to him which lets me know he's a great team player and thus someone I want watching my back.
