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vogelbeest

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I doubt it's dark lord aligned monsters. Far more likely its their own kind. Valravn says the fairy hates their kind and the Ether clearly doesn't like it either. The way its shaping up, monster lineages seem to have their own personalities to a certain degree. Valravn mentions that descendants of the 6th are sadistic/cruel. Certainly fits with what we know of Alice's personality too.
Valravn "A gutless craven too soft to take part in the cruelty of his kin, yet trembleth at the thought of the sacrifices required to correct them."

Seems to me he doesn't want to kill? But gets excited about his kin being corrected even though they die?
Maybe the fairy wants the Apostles dead? Aglaecwif but also Valravn and his Lord of Dark want the Gods dead...
Ella seems to want superhumans with the powers of both Apostles/twins... She has been chosen so by whom?
It's all just one big struggle for power and it seems the next battlefield for that is Earth...


Edit : It seems the ones that chosen Ella could be the Body and the Memory, and the fairy seems to be friendly with them....
 
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bloodaxis

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Edit : It seems the ones that chosen Ella could be the Body and the Memory, and the fairy seems to be friendly with them....
Personally I think anyone who's got an apostle parent is a chosen one, I seem to recall Jake being referred to as a chosen at one point as well. It stands to reason that being the direct progeny of one/two of the "leaders" of the race would come with some form of reverence/respect by the later generation monsters.
 

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Personally I think anyone who's got an apostle parent is a chosen one, I seem to recall Jake being referred to as a chosen at one point as well. It stands to reason that being the direct progeny of one/two of the "leaders" of the race would come with some form of reverence/respect by the later generation monsters.
Alice during her evolution has a talk with her monster grandad and it mentions that she could become a good heir if she ate her sire (the fairy) so maybe they are seen as their "chosen" by other monsters exactly because this is how the numbered see them and not just because of their lineage but instead for their potential.

Aglaecwif says that Jake had the potential but he seemed like a failure, Alice is one step away from her numbered and yet it seems to consider her a possible heir.

I guess some monsters think they should NOT mess with numbered spawns because if the numbered decided to directly transform them they had a good reason and might be "upset" to see another monster mess up with their plans.
 

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Alice during her evolution has a talk with her monster grandad and it mentions that she could become a good heir if she ate her sire (the fairy) so maybe they are seen as their "chosen" by other monsters exactly because this is how the numbered see them and not just because of their lineage but instead for their potential.

Aglaecwif says that Jake had the potential but he seemed like a failure, Alice is one step away from her numbered and yet it seems to consider her a possible heir.

I guess some monsters think they should NOT mess with numbered spawns because if the numbered decided to directly transform them they had a good reason and might be "upset" to see another monster mess up with their plans.
Yeah, my reasoning is basically that you are chosen by virtue of being turned by a numbered, because they're discerning and won't turn just anyone, just like how Michael likely would've just been eradicated by the second had he not offered up the sacrifice. At the same time I do think if you have high enough potential you can rise to a spot where you are indeed a chosen and if the numbered had gotten the chance, they would've turned you themselves. Mostly it's all semantics and we're basically in agreement.
 

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Seems chosen and heir are somewhat the same....

Aglaecwif about the strongest power : (Jake is called a potential inheritor)

You "Order? What is that?"
Female "The power to command all things. To structure all things. To write the laws that govern the universe and to have both the Power and the Authority to enforce them."
Female "I've never personally met a being, human or monster that has acquired it since the origin, although..."
Female "I did, not long ago, hear talk of a potential inheritor, one your Ella had high hopes for. Though it seems to have ended in a failure. A weak mind can ruin even the greatest potential."
Female "Still, if it were possible to completely inherit the traits of both the First and the Second, to claim one of the original powers... A spawn that could fully realize that strength would be unfathomably powerful."
Female "Of course inheriting both traits from any of the twin Apostles would make a spawn quite exceptional."


The eye when you select "power" : (Jake is called chosen here)

Unknown "The son and granddaughter of Oil. The crossed assassin. The failed chosen of Authority.


Alice's Grandpa during her evolution : (heir again..)

Unknown "Awaken, Descendent of the Sixth, Granddaughter of the Ether, heir to Space."


Who are the son and granddaughter of Oil??? Dexter and Tiffany??

Is the fairy an Apostle : "Space"? or is the Ether one of the Apostles descending from Space?

Unknown "Usher in our return..." That seems to imply it's another origin....
 
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Seems chosen and heir are somewhat the same....

Aglaecwif about the strongest power : (Jake is called a potential inheritor)

You "Order? What is that?"
Female "The power to command all things. To structure all things. To write the laws that govern the universe and to have both the Power and the Authority to enforce them."
Female "I've never personally met a being, human or monster that has acquired it since the origin, although..."
Female "I did, not long ago, hear talk of a potential inheritor, one your Ella had high hopes for. Though it seems to have ended in a failure. A weak mind can ruin even the greatest potential."
Female "Still, if it were possible to completely inherit the traits of both the First and the Second, to claim one of the original powers... A spawn that could fully realize that strength would be unfathomably powerful."
Female "Of course inheriting both traits from any of the twin Apostles would make a spawn quite exceptional."


The eye when you select "power" : (Jake is called chosen here)

Unknown "The son and granddaughter of Oil. The crossed assassin. The failed chosen of Authority.


Alice's Grandpa during her evolution : (heir again..)

Unknown "Awaken, Descendent of the Sixth, Granddaughter of the Ether, heir to Space."


Who are the son and granddaughter of Oil??? Dexter and Tiffany??

Is the fairy an Apostle : "Space"? or is the Ether one of the Apostles descending from Space?
The son and granddaughter of oil are Kenny and Bailey. It's telling you you need to consume Kenny, Bailey, Danika and Jake so far in the game.
 

necromater

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Man this shit is wild now we are gonna play spygames fucking game; you are a porn game why are you so good in everything else shit went real so fast first we are just perving the girls on the shower to fuck the dickhead now we are on a warpath to kill the same dickhead and most likely his dad.
 

bloodaxis

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Is the fairy an Apostle : "Space"? or is the Ether one of the Apostles descending from Space?

Unknown "Usher in our return..." That seems to imply it's another origin....
Ether is most likely the origin of the twin pair of the fifth and sixth apostles yeah. Will be interesting to see if Michael and Tiffany get the same kind of attention from their apostles origin. Will also be interesting to see if our origin will urge us to eat the apostles above us like Alices origin urged her to.
 

TerminusPrime

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Ah, that makes sense... And that list isn't really bad.... But i'm afraid Michael and Alice will be added later... :(
The Origin told us that was all so far but there may be more later, which matches with those 4 as being the only ones we've had the opportunity so far. We could also consume Alpha Breaker and Eric, but they aren't monsters or superhumans so likely weren't of any concern to the Origin.
 

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Ether is most likely the origin of the twin pair of the fifth and sixth apostles yeah. Will be interesting to see if Michael and Tiffany get the same kind of attention from their apostles origin. Will also be interesting to see if our origin will urge us to eat the apostles above us like Alices origin urged her to.
The way i read that was different. Ether is the Apostle as in the same level as our parents - The Body and The Memory. The fairy is his spawn; thus making Alice his granddaughter. Space is the Arbiter that comes above the Ether (probably from combining the 5th and 6th)
 

Ddlc

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Ether is most likely the origin of the twin pair of the fifth and sixth apostles yeah. Will be interesting to see if Michael and Tiffany get the same kind of attention from their apostles origin. Will also be interesting to see if our origin will urge us to eat the apostles above us like Alices origin urged her to.
Grandpa monster says to Alice that the fairy is his "wayward son", and since she is "grandaughter of the Ether" he is Ether himself, maybe this is his name (like how 3rd is Body and 4rth is Memory), heir to Space could refer to his arbiter if that's the case.
Unless we consider the fairy the numbered and grandpa the arbiter.
 

bloodaxis

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The way i read that was different. Ether is the Apostle as in the same level as our parents - The Body and The Memory. The fairy is his spawn; thus making Alice his granddaughter. Space is the Arbiter that comes above the Ether (probably from combining the 5th and 6th)
Grandpa monster says to Alice that the fairy is his "wayward son", and since she is "grandaughter of the Ether" he is Ether himself, maybe this is his name (like how 3rd is Body and 4rth is Memory), heir to Space could refer to his arbiter if that's the case.
Unless we consider the fairy the numbered and grandpa the arbiter.
Either way is possible, but personally I feel ether's the arbiter, the word implies something more than just the physical space, more like the physical space as well as the underpinnings of reality, like where the connections we have to our own arbiter is found, like the crawlspace of reality. Of course if we go by dictionary definitions ether's just one facet of space as a whole, but still.
 

necromater

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So this crap is the monster versión of John wick high table? I'm okay with that XD and the fairy is the ex comunicado man this shit writes itself Lol
 
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