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necromater

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Yeah i; that i mean more like alexis kind of Chrome you know maybe my Lady would like that club let's say women also do stupid shit when high and drunk i don't like the metal but i love the bear and the lamb ink she got XD man her last single party was way more wild than mine at least i don't have a police récord.
 

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Oscar is still alive but monsterfied, Danica is alive unless you devoured her, Klaus' body was taken to HERO base, most likely he's monsterfied and kept in containment, just like Oscar... Seems to me we might still get a chance to devour Oscar and Klaus in the future... ;)
Oscar is dead, charlie already knows about this and has a plan for it when she was talking to monster deryl.

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Ella did tell charlie that hero had him, but like with all her other minions she lied, exaggerated and manipulated the truth to keep charlie on her side.

I think this whole plotline around charlie bringing her brother back is actually pretty important, the author has been dropping quite a few hints about it for awhile now.
 

necromater

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Oscar is dead, charlie already knows about this and has plan for it when she was talking to monster deryl.

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Ella did tell charlie that hero had him, but like with all her other minions she lied, exaggerated and manipulated the truth to keep charlie on her side.

I think this whole plotline around charlie bringing her brother back is actually pretty important, the author has been dropping quite a few hints about for awhile now.
Man fuck the emo cunt i hope Oscar stay dead just to fuck with her and that nyx Tells her she is not gonna bring her brother back because she doesn't wanna XD. unless that update goes like wow........
 

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Man fuck the emo cunt i hope Oscar stay dead just to fuck with her and that nyx Tells her she is not gonna bring her brother back because she doesn't wanna XD. unless that update goes like wow........
no worries, nyx won't be able to bring oscar back. nyx never gave oscar her mark so she's unable to revive him.

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shopkeeps been dropping mad hints about this for awhile now.
 

DrakoGhoul

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It seems most of the Apostles don't operate together, the 3th and 4th do, but it's mostly the Body doing the infections...
After this update, I don't blame them for not working together. They were basically like, "So you're saying we're only one half away from being complete and ruling over everyone? Well, it looks like it's time for you to get in my mouth, dear brother" or something resembling that of sorts. :KEK:

But seriously, the reason why the 3rd and 4th probably work together is because those siblings care about each other. It could also be because their Papa Arbiter is still awake and they had no reason to fight each other as a result. Hell, that's probably also why they have a decent amount of control over each other's traits as well. Since the Origin is still there, they have no problem with sharing and working together. As for why the 3rd is implied to go out there infecting everything compared to his sister, I have no clue. Maybe the Body trait isn't as strict while still having a decently high ceiling? Or maybe Mommy 4th wanted a real pervert as her son, on top of being qualified to be her spawn.

Meanwhile, the 7th's crazy ass is a menace to Apostle society. I was right about that lunatic hunting the Numbered specifically. Hell, even my theory about him being the lesser form of a greater god was partially correct and it's highly possible that unlike the other Twin Apostles, he actually is his own Arbiter. Instead of his Arbiter being sleep or missing, it fell into the 7th and they fused. Probably already tried to eat his twin sister or brother, The Light. Then again, he did have a bride so that probably triggered all of that hatred he has in his dark heart. The Apostles probably slaughtered her and he wants to get it back in blood.

Not going to lie, I might join the homie Val and paint the universe black for our Lord and savior, Dark. My Murderhobo is a lost cause anyway.
 

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no worries, nyx won't be able to bring oscar back. nyx never gave oscar her mark so she's unable to revive him.

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shopkeeps been dropping mad hints about this for awhile now.
I wonder how Charlie expects to get Nyx help, i mean does she think she can hold against Nyx and the others from HERO if they decide to fight seriously ? Because that seems literally like a "death wish" to me.
Or maybe the theory that Nyx has some secret deal with Ella has some ground after all :unsure:.

By the way if is proved that Mc
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i will be really happy because i'm missing my girl Bailey for ages now.
 

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Oscar is dead, charlie already knows about this and has plan for it when she was talking to monster deryl.
Yeah, that seems likely after some more reading ;)

The funny thing with Oscar is he got infected after he died, he was buried under the monster he killed...
So i kinda expected him alive but monsterfied... As for Nyx, she can speak with the dead, it might be part of the solution...
But why would Nyx do that? Besides that Oscar's body is still at HERO... Will they be trading those marked HERO agents for Oscar, Ella, and Klaus? HERO lost 36 superhumans, how many of them are captured by SIN?
 

RonaldGrand6969

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After this update, I don't blame them for not working together. They were basically like, "So you're saying we're only one half away from being complete and ruling over everyone? Well, it looks like it's time for you to get in my mouth, dear brother" or something resembling that of sorts. :KEK:

But seriously, the reason why the 3rd and 4th probably work together is because those siblings care about each other. It could also be because their Papa Arbiter is still awake and they had no reason to fight each other as a result. Hell, that's probably also why they have a decent amount of control over each other's traits as well. Since the Origin is still there, they have no problem with sharing and working together. As for why the 3rd is implied to go out there infecting everything compared to his sister, I have no clue. Maybe the Body trait isn't as strict while still having a decently high ceiling? Or maybe Mommy 4th wanted a real pervert as her son, on top of being qualified to be her spawn.

Meanwhile, the 7th's crazy ass is a menace to Apostle society. I was right about that lunatic hunting the Numbered specifically. Hell, even my theory about him being the lesser form of a greater god was partially correct and it's highly possible that unlike the other Twin Apostles, he actually is his own Arbiter. Instead of his Arbiter being sleep or missing, it fell into the 7th and they fused. Probably already tried to eat his twin sister or brother, The Light. Then again, he did have a bride so that probably triggered all of that hatred he has in his dark heart. The Apostles probably slaughtered her and he wants to get it back in blood.

Not going to lie, I might join the homie Val and paint the universe black for our Lord and savior, Dark. My Murderhobo is a lost cause anyway.
You got me goofing at the 7th being a whole ass menace :ROFLMAO:

Makes me wonder if we can come up with a sort of list of the current monster factions/allegiances.

The Eye Faction:
-The Eye (3rd & 4th's Arbiter)
-The 3rd and 4th, both Twins
-Goliath
-Ella
-Charlie
-Shopkeeper?
-Monster Deryl (Formerly)
-Monster Mommy Alaeg or whatever her name is.
-Undying Monster Types (ones that harassed Malik)
-Nicolette Monster Types (teleporting/dimensional bastards)
-Minaks (or whatever they are called)


The Dark Faction:
-7th (Dark Lord)
-Valravn
-5th and 6th (Formerly?)
-Other Dark Monster Types

Sidenotes:
-HATES Eye Faction
-Goal is to make everything Dark, rather than raise an Arbiter almost as if DrakoGhoul theory about the 7th being a sort of pseudo Arbiter being true

The Sea Faction:
-Bailey (Formerly)
-Minaks (or whatever they are called)

The "Loyalist" Faction:
-1st (Order/Authority)

Sidenotes:
-Resides in their own dimension/homeland (i.e Jake vision sequence)

Neutral Faction:
-Rebis
-Shopkeeper?
-2nd (Power)
-Alice's Fairy
-8th (Space)
-Various other monsters that do their own thing or aren't intelligent enough to do so.


I'm probably wrong on a bunch but oh well, that's why y'all are here and why it isn't concrete. Just trying to sort all of these turning pieces.
 

Lord Kentus

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I really don't care for Charlie at all, not really as annoying as Nico but just flatly uninteresting to deal with.

Can only really be a cunt every interaction and sustain any interest I have for so long.
 

RonaldGrand6969

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I really don't care for Charlie at all, not really as annoying as Nico but just flatly uninteresting to deal with.

Can only really be a cunt every interaction and sustain any interest I have for so long.
I will admit I am curious about her nicer side. Shit even Klaus had a semi interesting backstory despite being a total piece of shit; it was nice addition to give more about his character.

And while for me PERSONALLY Charlie just gives off angsty teen girl vibes, it was nice seeing her softer side with Monster Deryl.

It's some of the villain justification stories like Cole or Alaric that I don't care about. Like yeah Alaric changed his ways only towards his marriage but he was still a right cunt through and through in the beginning of his introduction.

And Cole was what? Experimented on? Oh wow guess he just HAD to turn into a cunt. There are plenty of people that go through awful shit and DON'T take it out on everyone else in a prideful way like he does.

Oscar was cool, just loyal to the only people that helped him despite his mangled and twisted mind. He's like a companion attack dog, blame the owners not him (especially considering the times they were just flat out assholes to him using him as ONLY a weapon to be discarded).

Klaus's was more of a history lesson, I never forgave him, but it was nice to see how he got up to that point.

Kenny was just a stupid brat with zero life skills being pushed around by everyone cause he was spoiled in a culture that eats people alive if they aren't.

But we honestly know next to NOTHING about Charlie other than that she lost her brother Oscar to the whole monster stick right? I can't remember if they were orphans beforehand but either way there is a lot of history to build on there. I like her care for the children too despite being practically groomed by Ella's uncaring attitude. Her respect for the monsters is also something quite interesting, I hate people who see only one shade when it comes to a creature other than themselves rather than even CONSIDERING the possibility that there might be SOME good monsters out there just doing their own thing, especially if they aren't actively attacking you.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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Yeah, that seems likely after some more reading ;)

The funny thing with Oscar is he got infected after he died, he was buried under the monster he killed...
So i kinda expected him alive but monsterfied... As for Nyx, she can speak with the dead, it might be part of the solution...
But why would Nyx do that? Besides that Oscar's body is still at HERO... Will they be trading those marked HERO agents for Oscar, Ella, and Klaus? HERO lost 36 superhumans, how many of them are captured by SIN?
That's why Charlie's action were shortsighted and foolish this update. This was her one chance to get into HERO before she does anything too extreme and get on their watchlist.

Not only could she have finally been rid of Cole by letting us kill him and Jared, she would have gotten off free after joining because Charlie has been working for Ella, mostly reluctantly. As far as we know, she wasn't out there killing and doing all the shit Cole and them were doing. She mostly stayed with the kids. Even the loyalty part is iffy because she wasn't willing to help Ella until she was swindled into it by her.

Now that chance is gone. She'll most likely get the same treatment as Jake now. She threw away her chance to get to her brother and build up herself within HERO as a potential special agent. She could've got Nyx help after getting enough achievements. It might've taken years but it wouldn't be a suicide mission. Hell, even the MC and Deryl could've helped her since she made sure Cole wouldn't harm him.

All that was flushed down the drain this update though so fuck her brother. Sorry, I slipped. Anyway, she gave up her chance.
 

Ddlc

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That's why Charlie's action were shortsighted and foolish this update. This was her one chance to get into HERO before she does anything too extreme and get on their watchlist.

Not only could she have finally been rid of Cole by letting us kill him and Jared, she would have gotten off free after joining because Charlie has been working for Ella, mostly reluctantly. As far as we know, she wasn't out there killing and doing all the shit Cole and them were doing. She mostly stayed with the kids. Even the loyalty part is iffy because she wasn't willing to help Ella until she was swindled into it by her.

Now that chance is gone. She'll most likely get the same treatment as Jake now. She threw away her chance to get to her brother and build up herself within HERO as a potential special agent. She could've got Nyx help after getting enough achievements. It might've taken years but it wouldn't be a suicide mission. Hell, even the MC and Deryl could've helped her since she made sure Cole wouldn't harm him.

All that was flushed down the drain this update though so fuck her brother. Sorry, I slipped. Anyway, she gave up her chance.
Charlie wouldn't join HERO by her own will my guy, she was biased against them from the start, remember the way she talked to Deryl about him wanting to leave ? she has a terrible opinion of them, and i have no idea how someone would be able to change her mind.
Honestly the way she views them i think her only chance to join at least for now is through being captured and kept alive like Jake, and maybe if Mc gets enough influence she will eventually join his future team.
 
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vogelbeest

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The Eye Faction:
The Eye is the origin of the Body and the Memory
Ella is spawn of the Body
Aglaecwif and MC are spawn of either one (same parent)
Goliath is son of Aglaecwif
Either Deryl or MC made another son with Aglaecwif...
And HERO killed a few dozen of Goliath's brothers in last battle...
The shopeye belonged to another son of Aglaecwif...

I don't expect Charlie or any others to be from this line...
But when Ella summons the Apostles into the kidnapped twins there might be more...
 

DrakoGhoul

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Charlie wouldn't join HERO by her own will my guy, she was biased against them from the start, remember the way she talked to Deryl about him wanting to leave ? she has a terrible opinion of them, and i have no idea how someone would be able to change her mind.
Honestly the way she views them i think her only chance to join at least for now is through being captured and kept alive like Jake, and maybe if Mc gets enough influence she will eventually join his future team.
Eh, that's basically what she planned from last update though. From what I remember of Monster Deryl's and her conversation, she said she would go to HERO for her brother and ask Nyx for help. How would she do that without joining? Even if she reached Level 4, she still wouldn't be able to walk into HERO, make a demand and then leave with her brother. Unless we go with the theory that Nyx is partially working with Ella. But then again, why would she do Charlie that favor specifically?

Even if she has a bias against them, what I said in my original comment doesn't even contradict any of it. She doesn't have to like them to join for her own benefit. That was her golden key to get in the door without being enslaved like Jake. Even Alice has a strong bias against HERO and she's using it to her benefit. I'm sure there's also others who hate HERO as well that joined unwillingly amongst their ranks.
 
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Ddlc

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Eh, that's basically what she planned from last update though. From what I remember of Monster Deryl's and her conversation, she said she would go to HERO for her brother and ask Nyx for help. How would she do that without joining? Even if she reached Level 4, she still wouldn't be able to walk into HERO, make a demand and then leave with her brother. Unless we go with the theory that Nyx is partially working with Ella. But then again, why would she do Charlie that favor specifically?

Even if she has a bias against them, what I said in my original comment doesn't even contradict any of it. She doesn't have to like them to join for her own benefit. That was her golden key to get in the door without being enslaved like Jake. Even Alice has a strong bias against HERO and she's using it to her benefit. I'm sure there's also others who hate HERO as well that joined unwillingly amongst their ranks.
That's very true, thus why i was wondering how she plans to do that. I mean if her plan is to force Nyx then i consider a VERY stupid plan, because even if she thinks shee can somehow go against her there is the rest of HERO to consider, unless the theory that Nyx and Ella have some agreement is true and Charlie thinks she would help.

Other possibility is if Charlie has the intention give herself to HERO with the offer to turn all people under her power against SIN, or even to use against people in HERO to ensure their loyalty, though i'm sure that they would take A LOT of precaution if they accepted.

I agree she could join even while harboring resentment for them, i mean a lot of people in HERO don't like the place but it seems hers is very personal, Alice doesn't like the place, Charlie seem to hate it, but yes she could join even if it was the case.

But don't think that stopping Mc from killing Cole and Jared is something that burned any potential brigdes between her and HERO, at most they know she is part of SIN and maybe her powers, i mean Malik even gave Ella the chance to surrender and she is the most dangerous there in HEROs opinion.
 

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That's very true, thus why i was wondering how she plans to do that. I mean if her plan is to force Nyx then i consider a VERY stupid plan, because even if she thinks shee can somehow go against her there is the rest of HERO to consider, unless the theory that Nyx and Ella have some agreement is true and Charlie thinks she would help.

Other possibility is if Charlie has the intention give herself to HERO with the offer to turn all people under her power against SIN, or even to use against people in HERO to ensure their loyalty, though i'm sure that they would take A LOT of precaution if they accepted.

I agree she could join even while harboring resentment for them, i mean a lot of people in HERO don't like the place but it seems hers is very personal, Alice doesn't like the place, Charlie seem to hate it, but yes she could join even if it was the case.

But don't think that stopping Mc from killing Cole and Jared is something that burned any potential brigdes between her and HERO, at most they know she is part of SIN and maybe her powers, i mean Malik even gave Ella the chance to surrender and she is the most dangerous there in HEROs opinion.
It basically did burn the bridge between her and HERO. She solidified that she's loyally apart of SIN, even if she isn't. They know Charlie, Cole and Jared escaped. That 2 of them are in high positions and killed one of their operatives. Charlie being with them showed that she may have a high position as well, being with those two. It ruined any chance of her getting help for her brother. You think HERO is going to allow any of the High Ranking SIN members any sort of freedom or capability to roam freely? Hell, Jake actually might've got off light.

In fact, The reason why the MC was able to get a pass while getting a higher position is because he wasn't actively apart of Ella and SINs operation. HERO is well aware of his affiliation with her but he didn't squarely put himself in her corner. Charlie just lost that this update, even if she did literally nothing at all.

Also, you have to remember that HERO gave recently joined superhumans the chance to surrender. The high ranking SIN members are most likely going to all be enslaved and probed for all of their information with the possibility of being killed after they're done. Malik giving Ella a chance to surrender doesn't really matter or prove anything. Ella by no means was going to get a good ending for doing it. If anything, they would've lobotomized her to oblivion after getting all they wanted from her. That's how dangerous she is as a superhuman.
 

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I wonder how Charlie expects to get Nyx help, i mean does she think she can hold against Nyx and the others from HERO if they decide to fight seriously ? Because that seems literally like a "death wish" to me.
Or maybe the theory that Nyx has some secret deal with Ella has some ground after all :unsure:.

By the way if is proved that Mc
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i will be really happy because i'm missing my girl Bailey for ages now.
I get the feeling she had to give Nyx some specific monster remains or some shit to get her to put marks on and revive Christie/Emily if they die.

Edit: Nyxs power preventing anyone from tampering with Ellas "corpse" would make it more convenient for her to pretend to be dead inside HERO as well.
 
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mcmng

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Inb4 MC gives his mark to Ella (willingly or not) through grafting part of his body on hers to ressurrect the dead cunt missing goth club member.
Source: Dude, trust me :KEK:

Baseless theory aside, I do think the walking daddy issues crazy psycho girl really did kick the bucket. However, that message she left for Christie and Emily seems to suggest that the MC will be involved in her coming back to life somehow, either directly or indirectly, down the line.

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DrakoGhoul

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You know, I'm sitting here thinking and I had a thought. We definitely need more female Apostles. So far, we only got one, in the form of our monster mommy, the 4th. The other known ones are male(1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, and 7th) as far as we know. So 5 of the 12 Apostles are males, currently. It's a bit too late for them all to be male to female in pairs. Unless the 1st was actually female and the 5th turns out to be one as well. Though, it would be hot having a set of female Twin Apostles but that would have to be 9th and 10th or 11th and 12th.

Anyway, I got distracted. Here's hoping the 8th is female. Have her and her line of monsters resemble those fucked up images of the Biblically accurate angels. Imagine how crazy it would be to have those "angels" of the 8th chasing you around at the speed of light. Shit would be terrifying but I'd still fuck every last eye on them.

Overall, I'd say I'm fine with only a few of them being female Apostles but I hope there's more than just 1 or 2. It doesn't have to be equal with the number of males. Hell, I would take 3 with a female appearing after every 3rd male. So that means the 4th, 8th and 12th would all be females. I just want to see some busty Apostles. The hell am I saying? I have Mommy, the others don't matter, maybe.
 
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