VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Rutonat]

Btw people are confusing some facts. Emily is not more compatible than MC, because Ella thinks we only have 1 power and does not know we also have the memory power. We also have the eye, but we are still blind about that matter.

Ella could immediatly figure out which cmpatibility the MC has.
However, she stated herself in one of her scenes (not the letter) that she couldn't figure out the right match for Emily. If memory serves, she says she has more options, but none that is especially perfect compared to the others.
That piece of information stuck to my memory because I wondered if it was foreshadowing.

 

[Simpgor]

Honestly, I feel like if it was followed up on we won't see the variant of Deryl's offspring. Deryl doesn't know that the offspring will come for him because he never sees Val in the prison (from what we know thus far).

Which means he'll be blindsided in that path and might even get killed.

Although we might be able to get revenge for Deryl if he were killed in that path and eat his offspring.

so you think we wont see deryl verison but that also deryl will die to it? I know that Laurie was killed but she has not been part of the game the entire time, nor has she had multiple prolonged or solo fights/arcs dedicated to her, the chances of deryl meeting the same fate is ridiculously low. In your proposed path where deryl dies MC would still have to be given a choice on whether to eat/kill the offspring (for example what if my MC hates deryl and wants to bring the offspring into the crew for finally killing him?).

I hope people see what I mean when I say that the variables associated with the potential offspring(s) would balloon externally fast

 

[Ddlc]

Ella could immediatly figure out which cmpatibility the MC has.
However, she stated herself in one of her scenes (not the letter) that she couldn't figure out the right match for Emily. If memory serves, she says she has more options, but none that is especially perfect compared to the others.
That piece of information stuck to my memory because I wondered if it was foreshadowing.

It IS strange right ? She is at the same time very suited to monster infection but Ella, being so deep in monster knowledge, doesn't know a perfect match. To me that is foreshadowing for sure.
It could be even an explanation to Emily having different powers depending on the story, and specially if it involved Mc's decisions through it.

 

[ItzSyther]

so you think we wont see deryl verison but that also deryl will die to it? I know that Laurie was killed but she has not been part of the game the entire time, nor has she had multiple prolonged or solo fights/arcs dedicated to her, the chances of deryl meeting the same fate is ridiculously low. In your proposed path where deryl dies MC would still have to be given a choice on whether to eat/kill the offspring (for example what if my MC hates deryl and wants to bring the offspring into the crew for finally killing him?).

I hope people see what I mean when I say that the variables associated with the potential offspring(s) would balloon externally fast

There's a lot of possibilities with it yeah. But it probably will happen since a lot of her children are strong so I doubt it'll be just some one off single fight and all back to normal.

Like it's something that has a major consequence. I feel like Weird could pull it off depending on what he decides with either offspring.

Hell we aren't even 100% sure Deryl even bred her but the way he reacted when we met up with him again kinda signals that he did.

The reason I mention Deryl dying is well...simply because he has no heads up to the situation. MC knows of what could happen because if he does breed the monster Val just straight up says "Yeah watch out for the offspring its gonna come for you" but Deryl doesn't get the luxury that MC gets of knowing ahead of time.

That update involving the offspring is most likely gonna be a huge one too (gonna suck waiting for that).

 

[Rutonat]

It IS strange right ? She is at the same time very suited to monster infection but Ella, being so deep in monster knowledge, doesn't know a perfect match. To me that is foreshadowing for sure.
It could be even an explanation to Emily having different powers depending on the story, and specially if it involved Mc's decisions through it.

At the current state of the story, I doubt Emily would be infected. We can make her less of a pushover, but she's far from being as mentally strong as she'd need to be. If that was to happen -which I personally doubt but we never know- her personal story would need to get quite a bit farther.

 

[TerminusPrime]

It IS strange right ? She is at the same time very suited to monster infection but Ella, being so deep in monster knowledge, doesn't know a perfect match. To me that is foreshadowing for sure.
It could be even an explanation to Emily having different powers depending on the story, and specially if it involved Mc's decisions through it.

Ella seemed surprised by the avatar of the 7th that kills the avatar of the 4th in the early dead end. If she hasn't had an encounter with that Apostle she wouldn't know how compatible it would be with Emily.
That's also partially wishful thinking, cause I still think Shadow Knight Emily would be really cool.

 

[Rutonat]

I swear to God if I see one more Deryl breeding comment...

Come on. Deryl's been, like, the MC absolute best bro. No other male character has been as much a bro as him.
Cut him some slack.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

Come on. Deryl's been, like, the MC absolute best bro. No other male character has been as much a bro as him.
Cut him some slack.

No no my fault, I could've sworn on a stack of Bibles that he ONLY traded with Aglaecwif, but I finally went back to settle it with my nagging brain and saw his Derylness leak through that he did probably indeed fuck her.

Sorry not a Deryl fan

 

[Simpgor]

There's a lot of possibilities with it yeah. But it probably will happen since a lot of her children are strong so I doubt it'll be just some one off single fight and all back to normal.

Like it's something that has a major consequence. I feel like Weird could pull it off depending on what he decides with either offspring.

Hell we aren't even 100% sure Deryl even bred her but the way he reacted when we met up with him again kinda signals that he did.

The reason I mention Deryl dying is well...simply because he has no heads up to the situation. MC knows of what could happen because if he does breed the monster Val just straight up says "Yeah watch out for the offspring its gonna come for you" but Deryl doesn't get the luxury that MC gets of knowing ahead of time.

That update involving the offspring is most likely gonna be a huge one too (gonna suck waiting for that).

WW could easily write a single fight for either MC or Deryl but that is not what he would have to do. WW would have to write 4 satisfying fights (deryl v offspring, deryl vs random, mc vs offspring, and mc vs random) . Or he would have to skip one of their fights while still somehow maintaining the escalation that the fights have regardless of which combo you choose.

I can say with 1000% certainty that there will never be an "offspring update" when has WW ever made an entire update focused on a single path where multiple are available? For "half" the people the update would literally be "nothing happened MC just woke up and trained for a week straight".

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

WW could easily write a single fight for either MC or Deryl but that is not what he would have to do. WW would have to write 4 satisfying fights (deryl v offspring, deryl vs random, mc vs offspring, and mc vs random) . Or he would have to skip one of their fights while still somehow maintaining the escalation that the fights have regardless of which combo you choose.

I can say with 1000% certainty that there will never be an "offspring update" when has WW ever made an entire update focused on a single path where multiple are available? For "half" the people the update would literally be "nothing happened MC just woke up and trained for a week straight".

Agreed but they do hint that the beginning of this update's choices will have a major impact. The only choices we really received in the beginning were the Aglaecwif or Laurie path. In addition that if we 100% win against Deryl we get a special bonus. So I have no clue what all that means, but they've never taken the time in a afterword before to mention a huge impact via your choices (save for the Ella or Alice/Michael Patreon vote)

 

[ItzSyther]

WW could easily write a single fight for either MC or Deryl but that is not what he would have to do. WW would have to write 4 satisfying fights (deryl v offspring, deryl vs random, mc vs offspring, and mc vs random) that all fit into the same arc, while also maintaining the escalation that the fights have regardless of which combo you choose.

I can say with 1000% certainty that there will never be an "offspring update" when has WW ever made an entire update focused on a single path where multiple are available? For "half" the people the update would literally be "nothing happened MC just woke up and trained for a week straight".

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree here mah boi.

The way I see it there's no way Weird would just toss in this Val level creature for us to breed and make something like breeding her just be so well...inconsequential.

We know for a fact the children she makes are strong and even more so if it was using MC's seed. Why even give us the choice to go down the other path (avoiding her)?

Clearly Weird is setting something up here so it'll have to be a fight between MC vs Offspring or Deryl vs Offspring or a mix of MC and Deryl vs whoever's offspring. I doubt MC would just let his homie get attacked.

MC visits Val no matter the situation but he only learns of "Oh shit dont breed her" if he already bred her (when he encounters her in the cave) but hears nothing of her when Deryl fucks her and again when talking with Val in that route (not going down mommy path).

But in any case I still think there is going to be an update involving those offspring be it their own or 1 involving the monster mommy overall. She's clearly important so she'll be back again.

Actually...why was Deryl so quiet about her? Perhaps she told him not to say anything?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

You mean I have to sacrifice one of the most interesting encouters in this update to save a girl what probably won't want me...?
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That's a difficult decision...

Exactly. I'm fine with her dying as long as I get to get my revenge. Especially with my corruption MC. That's why I never said WW should make it possible to do the Aglaecwif scene and save Laurie, even though it should've been possible. Deryl can go fuck himself lol. I'm not about to do everything for him so he can get laid while also getting power boosts to be competent enough. That whole thing was a ego trip for him(Monster Deryl). He basically gets everything, if you save Laurie. I'll be damn if he gets away with putting me through all of that while getting my older monster sister and potentially getting Laurie in the end.

That said, I don't think Laurie sees Deryl that way. She saw Del as her little brother and best friend. Deryl himself is a bit of a manwhore. He would definitely fuck her but I don't see him settling down with her and the same applies to Laurie. Who knows though, that might've changed with this update but my Corruption MC won't ever find out.

 

[Ddlc]

At the current state of the story, I doubt Emily would be infected. We can make her less of a pushover, but she's far from being as mentally strong as she'd need to be. If that was to happen -which I personally doubt but we never know- her personal story would need to get quite a bit farther.

This whole concept of "mental stability" is very interesting, i mean, can we consider that Jake was stable enough for example ? because even after being 1 evolution he still was so meek that Ella had to literally beat him up trying to make him use his powers, he only got serious after fucking up Mia, in that case he was at least as much as a pushover as Emily.

Or Claudia who is a total sweetheart, i don't think she is more assertive than Emily, stable maybe, but does it mean that the person needs to, well not have any mental issues and Emily might have some ?

Before Ella said that i imagined that only being phisically compatible was enough, now there is a lot more to consider.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

Here's my theory:

-If you lose the Eye, you miss out on some lore and or Corruption and maybe some Power.

-IF you pick Aglaecwif you get an unlocked side route like when we visit the girls; but it'll only be available to those that picked her. Bout the same way Demi route isn't available after you kill her. The side route will maybe provide Corruption, Power, some sex scenes, etc.

-I think regardless if you picked Aglaecwif or didn't; by the end of the previous mentioned route, it'll betray you and try to kill you. This would make it so that even if Deryl is the one to do the deed, both of you have to take down this spawn eventually so the game doesn't branch out too far. The pay off is the aforementioned additional route points.

-IF you save Laurie there may be a potential threesome? Not that that fucker Deryl deserves it, but still; maybe it'll be an option? It could also play out where she may help us for a future fight as a way of perhaps stopping a skill check or something down the line, about the same way Brianna saves us from Valravn if you aren't strong enough; you can miss it, but it's there.

-I don't think the questions you ask Aglaecwif will have any impact, they SHOULDN'T as you can't even ask all of them and if you ask even ONE you're missing out on power or skill, which we ALL know is vital for fight checks down the line, training be damned.

One thing is for sure; this game based on this latest choice has branched out BIG time already. And unless I get a next update info drop on what does or doesn't happen immediately gonna have an aneurysm.

 

[Simpgor]

Agreed but they do hint that the beginning of this update's choices will have a major impact. The only choices we really received in the beginning were the Aglaecwif or Laurie path. In addition that if we 100% win against Deryl we get a special bonus. So I have no clue what all that means, but they've never taken the time in a afterword before to mention a huge impact via your choices (save for the Ella or Alice/Michael Patreon vote)

They go out of their way to mention that killing/sparing jake during his arc is the first "big choice" in the game and all that has come from that is the most recent scene with him and mia getting her memories back (I have only saved him so IDK what the scene looks like if you ate him), but Id argue that Laurie dying (techicnally an LI/waifu/someone you fucked) is already "consequences"

But in any case I still think there is going to be an update involving those offspring be it their own or 1 involving the monster mommy overall. She's clearly important so she'll be back again.

So what about the patrons for the months leading up to that update? WW is very involved with them so is he going to tell "half" his supporters wont be able to play an update because they went down the wrong path? Or do you want WW to make basically 2 updates and release them at the same time? I get you want it to happen but look at this from a business/practical point of view....

 

[TerminusPrime]

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree here mah boi.

The way I see it there's no way Weird would just toss in this Val level creature for us to breed and make something like breeding her just be so well...inconsequential.

We know for a fact the children she makes are strong and even more so if it was using MC's seed. Why even give us the choice to go down the other path (avoiding her)?

Clearly Weird is setting something up here so it'll have to be a fight between MC vs Offspring or Deryl vs Offspring or a mix of MC and Deryl vs whoever's offspring. I doubt MC would just let his homie get attacked.

MC visits Val no matter the situation but he only learns of "Oh shit dont breed her" if he already bred her (when he encounters her in the cave) but hears nothing of her when Deryl fucks her and again when talking with Val in that route (not going down mommy path).

But in any case I still think there is going to be an update involving those offspring be it their own or 1 involving the monster mommy overall. She's clearly important so she'll be back again.

Actually...why was Deryl so quiet about her? Perhaps she told him not to say anything?

In the preview for the monsters it said she was important and would be back later in the storyline.

 

[ItzSyther]

So what about the patrons for the months leading up to that update? WW is very involved with them so is he going to tell "half" his supporters wont be able to play an update because they went down the wrong path? Or do you want WW to make basically 2 updates and release them at the same time? I get you want it to happen but look at this from a business/practical point of view....

Or he could simply do one big update instead of splitting them up. Either is a possibility but in any case it's up to him.

It also depends on how he leads up to said events, we have no way of knowing how things well play out till that point so you saying it could be 2 updates and screw over people doesn't really line up.

Another thing your ignoring is the fact it's quite clear he is setting things up for the offspring, be it Deryl's or MC. There would be ZERO reason to give us a choice during the cave to meet or not to meet Aglaecwif if that choice didn't matter.

It would be far easier, from your POV just to force MC to just meet her so that way Weird doesn't have to do all that work to make 2 different offsprings but clearly we get a choice and therefore it's possible for 2 different offsprings to appear.

 

[Rutonat]

This whole concept of "mental stability" is very interesting, i mean, can we consider that Jake was stable enough for example ? because even after being 1 evolution he still was so meek that Ella had to literally beat him up trying to make him use his powers, he only got serious after fucking up Mia, in that case he was at least as much as a pushover as Emily.

Or Claudia who is a total sweetheart, i don't think she is more assertive than Emily, stable maybe, but does it mean that the person needs to, well not have any mental issues and Emily might have some ?

Before Ella said that i imagined that only being phisically compatible was enough, now there is a lot more to consider.

There's a difference between stability and strength of character.
Jake had low strength. It's only when he started doing big things that his ego got the upper hand. Before that, he was the same meek motherfucker as before. But he was stable enough to survive the process.

Emily has a lot on her mind and a lot going on. Her group of friends kinda bursted, her dad's making her life very rough, and she's uncertain of what direction to take with her future. Plus, we know she relies a lot on Shadow for mental support, and that dog, for all great that she is, stated herself that she doesn't have long left in this world.
It's easy to guess that her death will break Emily if she doesn't get more assurance in her own capacity.
So if she was to get infected now, the "monster gene" would likely pray on those insecurities and break her.

 

[ItzSyther]

Also any theories about why Deryl kept quiet after meeting Aglaecwif? Thinking more about it...its kinda weird?

Perhaps their pact was a bit different from the one MC made with her (although I think MC was quiet about it too...well until he met Alexis and Val in the confinement room).

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

In the preview for the monsters it said she was important and would be back later in the storyline.

I want to go down her route SO BAD but the pay off just isn't good so far, I'm working on what ifs vs results.

I could save Laurie and get a steady amount of power and skill, also potentially keep my Eye all if I go Right.

If I go Left, I meet this beautiful lore drop mommy that I have a kid with, is it incest potential? I dunno. She also gives me an ultimatum between like 6 different choices and I can only pick ONE if I don't have the Eye, but if I do have the Eye I lose it and get to pick another potentially useless second question. Oh and Laurie dies and I'm potentially down power and skill so there's that...

Tell you what though, I wish the way it worked was for the kid she grants us power and skill, like the monster on the Right. And if you HAD the Eye you could ask a question or something. But I'll tell you one thing, the next big fight we have isn't gonna go so smooth if heaven forbid I missed a skill or power check because I was too busy fuckin a monster and having a down to earth chat with a crow at the cost of the Eye and Laurie's life.