VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[RonaldGrand6969]

Hey guys still doing my replay and I'm up to the Ella's Past with Christine part:

Does a "tall man in a hood" fit the MO of anyone we know? It's a line mentioned by one of the teachers that apparently survived the massacre and identified who they though did it. What strikes me as odd about the whole thing is Ella's MO isn't really to disguise herself, she did it like ONCE to trick Jake and I suppose she could do it again but it doesn't rub me the right way. Another thing that I'm puzzled on is IF Ella truly did kill all those kids for whatever reason, why spare the witnesses? Two of her most defining characteristics is that she's merciless and upfront. Only her grade and only mentions Christine not coming the DAY OF the Massacre let alone they were already there I believe. Did something appear that she sensed so she fought it? Was she about to lose her shit from the voices? Very nerve wracking...



I find the whole situation perplexing because H.E.R.O, mainly Clark pretty much reads a whole ass dossier on Ella but mentions that she was a SURVIVOR in the Massacre but not responsible for it at least to their extensive knowledge net which makes it even more fucking suspicious. If I was Clark trying to get under her skin I would have used the knowledge that we knew she did commit the murders but the meeting with the Council members later confirms they know pretty much next to nothing about her...that Massacre was RIDICULOUSLY clean for whoever did it yet also extremely sloppy by letting teachers or other witnesses survive, why ONLY the kids of that grade, even if we do claim it's Ella what's the motive? She didn't even know a quarter of the people there and if she truly held a grudge and it wasn't one of her "in her head" penpals (because she warned Christine ahead of time) then why not JUST kill Julie in passing?



Not trying to defend her but just understand the Massacre itself and why or who potentially did it other than the almost too obvious answer which would be that Ella did it, W.W almost always has a twist on seemingly obvious solutions, potential suspect(s):

1. Zack- PURELY based on the description of course. The issue with this theory is that I believe he's been injured for a while now, and even if he wasn't; H.E.R.O having no knowledge on the matter despite sending one of their Councilors would make zero sense.

2. The 7th?- If I'm not mistaken we've deemed the Ella Dead End where the 4th is crushed by an Unknown Entity to be the Dark Lord, 7th. It kind of has a hood like figure, and would also explain why Ella was so struck by shock if she just saw the monster SHE thought was maybe already dealt with back from the dead? Perhaps the 4th and 3rd together stepped in to stop it as a way of saving their at the time; "chosen champion". Problem with this is Ella wouldn't have been able to defeat it at the time, she had only had her powers for what? 3 years by that point? Another issue is the teacher regards them as a tall hooded MAN which the 7th does NOT resemble in that dead end, though Valravn does refer to it as a Lord...

3. Xanthe's Son- and alkeera bases that on absolutely nothing.


Maybe I'm overthinking it...thoughts anyone?

 

[alkeera]

Hey guys still doing my replay and I'm up to the Ella's Past with Christine part:

Does a "tall man in a hood" fit the MO of anyone we know? It's a line mentioned by one of the teachers that apparently survived the massacre and identified who they though did it. What strikes me as odd about the whole thing is Ella's MO isn't really to disguise herself, she did it like ONCE to trick Jake and I suppose she could do it again but it doesn't rub me the right way. Another thing that I'm puzzled on is IF Ella truly did kill all those kids for whatever reason, why spare the witnesses? Two of her most defining characteristics is that she's merciless and upfront. I find it perplexing because H.E.R.O, mainly Clark pretty much reads a whole ass dossier on Ella but mentions that she was a SURVIVOR in the Massacre but not responsible for it at least to their extensive knowledge net which makes it even more fucking suspicious.

Not trying to defend her but just understand the Massacre itself and why or who potentially did it other than the almost too obvious answer which would be that Ella did it, W.W almost always has a twist on seemingly obvious solutions, thoughts anyone?

Xanthe's son.
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[dd82]

Am I the only one thinking that the artificially induced evolutions using that serum are a trap? IMO Ella made a big mistake taking one of those.

 

[necromater]

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Is this funny or i'm just baked?

 

[vogelbeest]

Does a "tall man in a hood" fit the MO of anyone we know?

"And then, what seems to be the last pair arrive, Nico, with a tall, hooded man that I don't recognize."
Malik "Ah, Zack! Hey there, recovering well?"

That's one tall hooded man, Zack Zaman, captain of team Chronos...

Makes you wonder if he was involved, was that the reason his team got defeated? And if so, could it be Ella wasn't even the killer but the target?

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

"And then, what seems to be the last pair arrive, Nico, with a tall, hooded man that I don't recognize."
Malik "Ah, Zack! Hey there, recovering well?"

That's one tall hooded man, Zack Zaman, captain of team Chronos...

Makes you wonder if he was involved, was that the reason his team got defeated? And if so, could it be Ella wasn't even the killer but the target?

That line is ODDLY FUCKIN SPECIFIC damn near identical to the witness's testimony. So let's assume that Zack was involved yes? How does that play out?

We know Zack and his crew went toe to toe with "something" that practically hospitalized them. While I DON'T believe ELLA could've defeated Zack, what if what I was saying about the 7th was true, and it showed up and started slaughtering people there? Bear with me, here's my step by step theory:

1. We know Superhumans can sense others of their kind that pose a threat or even Monsters that also do so.

2. We also know that Ella was receiving almost "demands" from whatever was talking to her inside her head, the 4th perhaps?

3. The 7th (Dark Lord), along with MAYBE the 8th or whatever it's twin "Light" is sense someone with a deep connection to the 3rd and 4th (Ella). Entities which we KNOW the 7th seems to hate, so they go to the party together to end their enemy's spawn.

4. Ella senses this entity nearby, which is why she only warns Christine AFTER the fact that they are already at the party, hence Christine waking up at the scene after she is knocked out.

5. As the chaos ensues, the only people that should be there are her grade, as it's a graduation party; the teachers were probably nearby on campus, but not DIRECTLY in the midst partying, explaining why a bunch of the staff were still left alive but none of the children.

6. The chaos is detected ahead of time by Zach with however he figures it out, so he sets out to stop the rampage a little too late but still arrives none the less. The sudden deployment of himself against 2 of the Numbered Apostles leaves him outmatched, so he calls up the rest of his squad and they all get MAN HANDLED.

7. But it's not all bad, you see they do still manage to kill the 8th or "Light", which would explain the corpse of unprecedented strength that Xanthe used to give Tiffany her powers, and why the 7th now works alone. It is PRESUMED that the 7th also perished, but none of them know it's still out there.

8. Ella's reaction to the 7th later on confirms this, as she seems incredibly taken aback by mentioning how "It's just not possible..." with fear in her eyes. She KNOWS that the Apostles like the 4th are vessels that can't die, so why mention the impossible if it was over the death of the 4th in the Dead End? Unless it was maybe due to the instantaneous 1 shot of them, but it almost stuck me more as she recognized the 7th, perhaps from the Massacre thinking it was dead...? She'd have every reason to be afraid, as she'd have witnessed the carnage first hand, and would also explain why the 4th died instantly; it was caught off guard by the fact that it was still alive in the first place.

Sidenotes:
- Can someone remind me the line that mentions what half of the Apostles are "..."? Was the 7th in that range? Or what was the full line I can't remember but it may solidify the theory.

-Clark only mentioning her as a survivor may be due to him not having knowledge of what REALLY went down. It's very possible H.E.R.O wanted to keep under wraps the absolute failure of their most reliable Lvl 5 member being decimated along with their entire squad.

Thoughts on THAT theory anyone? What about you vogelbeest do you remember the 1-12 line I mentioned?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

The 7th part doesn't work. Ella was terrified of the thing because she really believed that the 4th and 3rd were unbeatable. Her reaction was more that she could barely believe her Twin Apostle was killed that quick and easy. Also, if the 4th, herself, couldn't sense the 7th coming, why would level 1 to 2 Ella be any different in the past? The monster sensing doesn't apply with the 7th, apparently. I mean, even during that dead end with level 4 Ella, she didn't sense him coming.

Now we don't exactly know how much Ella knows about the 7th - 12th or if she has the same "alliance" with them as she seems to have with the 1st - 4th. So far, Ella only turned people that were related to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th with pills that directly summoned them. She also gave HERO pills for Hex so the 6th and possibly the 5th might be a part of that as well. It would be bizarre if she encountered the 7th in the past and lived. The eye mentioned only the 1st to 6th remain while implying that the 7th through 12 weren't apart of whatever it was getting at during the MC's Evolution.

If the 7th truly came for her when she was at the school, she wouldn't be able to escape, especially not with Christie while only being a Superhuman at level 2 or lower. As we saw when the MC tried to run from it. Zack also wouldn't be able to halt the 7th either because he would've still been level 4 before Xanthe's evolution serum. Unless he was as potent as Deus, there's no way he would've been able to distract the 7th long enough for Ella to escape during that scene.

If we truly go with the Zack angle for it, then it's most likely that the 3rd and/or it's ally monsters showed up. You know, since it's Ella's Monster Daddy and all. It's the voice that's talking in her head, most likely. If Zack did indeed came during the school massacre, it's more likely that the 3rd, or whatever monster that was helping Ella, stopped Zack from taking her.

That's my take on it. The 7th is too powerful and won't appear for just the spawns of the Apostles, unless he was already in the area. If he did do it for that reason and wanted Ella during that scene, she wouldn't be able to escape his grasp. It would've likely hunted her, even if she escaped and killed her.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

The 7th part doesn't work. Ella was terrified of the thing because she really believed that the 4th and 3rd were unbeatable. Her reaction was more that she could barely believe her Twin Apostle was killed that quick and easy. Also, if the 4th, herself, couldn't sense the 7th coming, why would level 1 to 2 Ella be any different in the past? The monster sensing doesn't apply with the 7th, apparently. I mean, even during that dead end with level 4 Ella, she didn't sense him coming.

Now we don't exactly know how much Ella knows about the 7th - 12th or if she has the same "alliance" with them as she seems to have with the 1st - 4th. So far, Ella only turned people that were related to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th with pills that directly summoned them. She also gave HERO pills for Hex so the 6th and possibly the 5th might be a part of that as well. It would be bizarre if she encountered the 7th in the past and lived. The eye mentioned only the 1st to 6th remain while implying that the 7th through 12 weren't apart of whatever it was getting at during the MC's Evolution.

If the 7th truly came for her when she was at the school, she wouldn't be able to escape, especially not with Christie while only being a Superhuman at level 2 or lower. As we saw when the MC tried to run from it. Zack also wouldn't be able to halt the 7th either because he would've still been level 4 before Xanthe's evolution serum. Unless he was as potent as Deus, there's no way he would've been able to distract the 7th long enough for Ella to escape during that scene.

If we truly go with the Zack angle for it, then it's most likely that the 3rd and/or it's ally monsters showed up. You know, since it's Ella's Monster Daddy and all. It's the voice that's talking in her head, most likely. If Zack did indeed came during the school massacre, it's more likely that the 3rd, or whatever monster that was helping Ella, stopped Zack from taking her.

That's my take on it. The 7th is too powerful and won't appear for just the spawns of the Apostles, unless he was already in the area. If he did do it for that reason and wanted Ella during that scene, she wouldn't be able to escape his grasp. It would've likely hunted her, even if she escaped and killed her.

Ehhhh that still doesn't add up. Let's say it's true;

1. Ella is ordered by the 3rd for WHATEVER reason to slaughter all the kids at the party.

2. She knocks out Christine to go finish the job without her being a part of it, I guess making her mind up on the spot instead of days prior???

3. She starts slaughtering and Zack STILL shows up (tall man in a hood eye witness). You're telling me Ella at lvl 1 or 2 has the 3rd &/or 4th leap to her defense to stop Zack and his crew?

4. She also remains at the scene, where she's questioned by police, so unless H.E.R.O just kind of "forgot" about their key suspect being nearby (sensed even); makes no sense.



So upon further inspection, you're right, it wouldn't make sense that Zack would be able to not only hold off the 7th and the 8th with just him and his crew, but also defeat the 8th and recover the corpse all by themselves, I'll give you that.

So then what if it was the 8th alone? For the same reason as my previous theory, but the reason Ella was saying "that's impossible" upon seeing the 7th was because that little glowing eye light thing in the 7th was an aspect of the 8th that she recognized during the battle at the Massacre.

1. It would clear up the sensing, as far as we know the 8th is probably Light, the opposite of stealth, allowing her to detect it.

2. It would be a more believable fight for Zack and his crew, and why he was part of the witness testimony.

3. It would cover why Ella was still at the scene for the police questioning, yet not a known suspect in the dossier from H.E.R.O and instead listed as a SURVIVOR; she had nothing to do with it.

4. It would also justify her shock, as if Ella doesn't have the biggest brain when it comes to monster knowledge. There's no way we at our 2nd Evolution know about the 12 but Ella at Lvl 4 and in constant contact doesn't know there are other at the top with the 3rd and 4th.

 

[vogelbeest]

Thoughts on THAT theory anyone? What about you @vogelbeest do you remember the 1-12 line I mentioned?

something like : "no six, 7 through 12 already been"

As for what exactly happened at the St. Arturius Massacre, i dunno, but if i remember it correct Ella knocked Christie out, and when she came to her senses it already happened and Ella took her out of there.
But if the tall hooded man that was seen there was Zack, team Chronos might have been there to save Ella...
There's Valravn that eats preferably hearts of children, any other type of monster could be after children only just as well...
But if team Chronos got their injuries at that party it must have been a very strong monster...
Did Ella drop some pills in the punch perhaps?

A big question is if Ella already had her monster pills back then... The weird thing about that is Ella has pills made from monster parts, that attract certain monsters.... That's why Jake, Michael and MC are spawns of Apostles... We don't know the others, but it's fair to assume Ella's cronies will have S-class potential monster parents too... So how did Ella herself manage to be infected by an Apostle? And how did she manage to get the monster parts for these pills? There must be thousands of different monsters out there. Is it all chance or has she been infected like Tiffany and been given these pills? HERO been collecting the shells of Apostle avatars for over 50 years.... They've also been killing off the more dangerous monsters effectively until team Chronos got injured... So it's only after that Ella would be able to gather these monster parts slightly easier...

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Ehhhh that still doesn't add up. Let's say it's true;

1. Ella is ordered by the 3rd for WHATEVER reason to slaughter all the kids at the party.

2. She knocks out Christine to go finish the job without her being a part of it, I guess making her mind up on the spot instead of days prior???

3. She starts slaughtering and Zack STILL shows up (tall man in a hood eye witness). You're telling me Ella at lvl 1 or 2 has the 3rd &/or 4th leap to her defense to stop Zack and his crew?

4. She also remains at the scene, where she's questioned by police, so unless H.E.R.O just kind of "forgot" about their key suspect being nearby (sensed even); makes no sense.



So upon further inspection, you're right, it wouldn't make sense that Zack would be able to not only hold off the 7th and the 8th with just him and his crew, but also defeat the 8th and recover the corpse all by themselves, I'll give you that.

So then what if it was the 8th alone? For the same reason as my previous theory, but the reason Ella was saying "that's impossible" upon seeing the 7th was because that little glowing eye light thing in the 7th was an aspect of the 8th that she recognized during the battle at the Massacre.

1. It would clear up the sensing, as far as we know the 8th is probably Light, the opposite of stealth, allowing her to detect it.

2. It would be a more believable fight for Zack and his crew, and why he was part of the witness testimony.

3. It would cover why Ella was still at the scene for the police questioning, yet not a known suspect in the dossier from H.E.R.O and instead listed as a SURVIVOR; she had nothing to do with it.

The thing with this is, the 8th's avatar was found recently by HERO. As in, after the MC reached level 2 recently. Xanthe said he's been studying it for weeks since it was recovered after giving Tiffany her serum, from what I remember. That wouldn't line up if the 8th was recovered 6 years ago. Also, we found out this update that the 7th doesn't work with the 8th. At most, only the monsters born from the 9th and 10th follow it. Aglaecwif is the one that mentions this and she's very old so that means that's been a thing for 1000s of years. Why would they suddenly team up to attack a school full of children?

If the 8th is called "The Light", as I've guessed. How would anyone stop or catch them? If I'm being honest, it's not even possible for anybody at HERO to capture or defeat the 8th by itself. It's most likely the fastest being in the entire superhuman game. If it wanted Ella, the kids or anyone for that matter, they would be hard pressed to even perceive it. The speed alone would make what you're saying unlikely to happen. Only possible way would be if the 8th's Avatar was near to collapsing in that moment.

The detection thing still wouldn't work for Ella because the speed difference is way too large. Think Tiffany but with a much bigger gap. Like, an almost, if not, infinite gap in speed. We know this is the case because Aglaecwif mentions that only the 6th and 8th can cross the distance required to reach their monster realm from this universe.

So yeah, I don't think it was the 8th here. It wouldn't make sense with how fast and powerful it is. To be able captured or perceive it would be impossible by anyone but it's fellow Apostles. So the same thing applies. If Ella sensed the 8th, it would've also sensed her and Zack, which means it would already be too late for everyone that's not the 8th. They wouldn't be able to reasonably counter the speed and power difference.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

something like : "no six, 7 through 12 already been"

As for what exactly happened at the St. Arturius Massacre, i dunno, but if i remember it correct Ella knocked Christie out, and when she came to her senses it already happened and Ella took her out of there.
But if the tall hooded man that was seen there was Zack, team Chronos might have been there to save Ella...
There's Valravn that eats preferably hearts of children, any other type of monster could be after children only just as well...
But if team Chronos got their injuries at that party it must have been a very strong monster...
Did Ella drop some pills in the punch perhaps?

A big question is if Ella already had her monster pills back then... The weird thing about that is Ella has pills made from monster parts, that attract certain monsters.... That's why Jake, Michael and MC are spawns of Apostles... We don't know the others, but it's fair to assume Ella's cronies will have S-class potential monster parents too... So how did Ella herself manage to be infected by an Apostle? And how did she manage to get the monster parts for these pills? There must be thousands of different monsters out there. Is it all chance or has she been infected like Tiffany and been given these pills? HERO been collecting the shells of Apostle avatars for over 50 years.... They've also been killing off the more dangerous monsters effectively until team Chronos got injured... So it's only after that Ella would be able to gather these monster parts slightly easier...

It's noted that Ella was actively fighting against the command of the 4th or 3rd in her head. Perhaps it was trying to order her to make pills and give them to the kids in her grade. But would Zack really show up with his squad and get annihilated by a bunch of lvl 1 Monsterifed children?

As for how Ella got infected, I'd assume she was chosen for compatibility by the 3rd and 4th, you don't always have to take a pill as the only way to become a Superhuman.

 

[vogelbeest]

As for how Ella got infected, I'd assume she was chosen for compatibility by the 3rd and 4th, you don't always have to take a pill as the only way to become a Superhuman.

We know the avatars of Apostles can only be on earth for a limited time, that makes actively searching a specific target to infect unlikely, the Apostles just infect and any surviving is compatible at least up to a point... If Ella was specifically selected, it's more likely it was by humans, likely Bramon Xanthe or perhaps even Tanos Xanthe...

What the pills do is attract a specific monster to the person that swallowed the pill.... Zach would not have had to fight a bunch of recently monsterfied kids but the monsters attracted by the pills.... The kids would just be slaughtered or if infected possibly resurrect the next day as a newborn superhuman... Ella can see which person is best suited for what monster and she has the pills to summon those... Has Ella been selected for seeing the best matches or is that ring/stone artefact the reason she can see? Ella was part of a group where MC has been a short period too and only the two of them are left... Was that when she was selected? HERO quarantining children after monster attacks seems possible, they know about attacks before they even happen.

 

[necromater]

IT was the V we have all the others where is the V?

 

[Axelfire]

so any one gonna post the previews?

 

[vogelbeest]

Perhaps it was trying to order her to make pills and give them to the kids in her grade.

Ella hears voices and says go back to sleep, but it's way before the massacre....

Possibly Ella infected her first victim, Julie? And she was still feeling guilty somewhat...
Or at that point mother and father told her to devour her?
Only thing that's sure is at that point Ella was either already a killer or becoming one...
The part about not leaving any to morn points out her plan to use orphans started around then.

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[vogelbeest]

IT was the V we have all the others where is the V?

Nico might be closest to the 5th, her monster was said to be close related to Alice... That's how Alice was able to break into the other dimension with her graviton blast... But so far we don't know any spawn of the fifth...

I suspect Tiffany is sort of an artificial spawn of an Apostle, and i guess Liz and Amber will be too when Ella summons the Apostles to earth, those rings probably will prevent being taken over, but they will still be infected...

We need 6 people for those powers of the Origins; Michael, MC, Alice, Liz or Amber, Tiffany (or Claudia?) and then 1 more...
I could see Deryl, but that would mean the Rebis needs to be a numbered/Apostle so that's unlikely...

 

[Eiyuu]

Hey yo, fella! I'm a big fan of the game and I think I should share with you some of my contribution to the thread. I have created some characters's images using AI drawing. Let me know your thoughts about it, I did it for fun after all!
P/s: Please don't re-upload or post them anywhere, thank you ;3

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Bro, what AI did you use?

 

[Gtdead]

Nico might be closest to the 5th, her monster was said to be close related to Alice... That's how Alice was able to break into the other dimension with her graviton blast... But so far we don't know any spawn of the fifth...

I suspect Tiffany is sort of an artificial spawn of an Apostle, and i guess Liz and Amber will be too when Ella summons the Apostles to earth, those rings probably will prevent being taken over, but they will still be infected...

We need 6 people for those powers of the Origins; Michael, MC, Alice, Liz or Amber, Tiffany (or Claudia?) and then 1 more...
I could see Deryl, but that would mean the Rebis needs to be a numbered/Apostle so that's unlikely...

I'm speculating that Nico is related to the Sixth. Aglaecwif says that there exist rifts to the monster dimension in space but only the Sixth and Eighth can find them in reasonable time. Sixth is related to space and Eighth is probably related to light, so those who can teleport or move as fast as the light can hope to find them in a reasonable timeframe.

Female "We come from another space, far from here, a dimension, much like the one we're in now, but infinitely larger in scale."
Female "It is possible to reach it by simply travelling the cosmos as I understand it, though it would take an eternity for any but the Sixth and the Eigth."

Of course Alice doesn't seem to have any teleporting ability, but assuming that Aglaecwif is correct, it's the only explanation that makes sense to me.

I think the numbered look something like this:

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[necromater]

So anyone here played área 69 ? My wife says it's good but i know better to trust her tastes like when she gets mad when i shave and wax. Lady i'm not a clóset gay i'm gonna have a fucking stroke in this fucking heat if i keep the fucking body hair.

 

[hexkitty01]

Hey yo, fella! I'm a big fan of the game and I think I should share with you some of my contribution to the thread. I have created some characters's images using AI drawing. Let me know your thoughts about it, I did it for fun after all!
P/s: Please don't re-upload or post them anywhere, thank you ;3

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OK, fr, I think THIS should be the official in-game Ella art, this slaps! But don't tell the dev I said that, I don't want him to think his in-game art is anything to sneeze at... especially because I'm solidly on Team I Love Ella To Bits.