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it looks like there may be more options, but what are they?
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When asked how you want to fight Michael in the self defense class; pick "use your full power" and after you smash Kenny through the ground say "I should've killed him".

+1 Power
+1 Corruption

I'm not 100 percent on if you can do it without the Corruption but I know for a FACT you can't do it without that Power point.
 

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I'm just curious if we'll run into anyone with the power to control plants and shit on some poison ivy type shiz. Would be kinda cool to see how that'd go down in a fight.

Then again I guess the MC could do shit with plants to some degree? I mean all he has gone after is animals (and soon monsters) he outright ignored plants as an option to absorb.
Damn, first thing that came to my mind was using plants as
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I need to go bathe in holy water
 

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Ok, now the most important question: does main story branches at some point? Or MC is forced into h.e.r.o. without alternatives?
 

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Ok, now the most important question: does main story branches at some point? Or MC is forced into h.e.r.o. without alternatives?
You are forced without alternatives... well I mean you can choose to die by being spaced by Nico as an alternative but it isn't a very appeling option. I don't think there will ever be such a major branching as choosing a faction to join or being independent, it would be way too much work for WW to keep more than one plotline going, but who knows what will happen in the future.
 

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I think maybe if W.W Milks the cow he is gonna make branches so if you wanna be a paragon go for it champ , wanna be a Drako feel free to do so, wanna go the meh route meh do what you want XD
 

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Yeah W.W is the only consistent dev I've seen, we get more content in 3 months than most other games receive in a year. It's actually disgusting how TERRIBLY BAD 90% of devs are with their time management. I suppose I wouldn't even view it so bad if there wasn't this religious cult following behind them (patrons) that follow their work as if it's the second coming of Christ and will FOR SURE deliver.
To be fair, a lot of devs do it as a passion project on the side of a real, demanding job, as a way to get a little bit of side income. If you add family obligations to the mix, it doesn't necessarily leaves a lot of time to make smut games.
Though the argument for time management is often true as well.
 
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Ok, now the most important question: does main story branches at some point? Or MC is forced into h.e.r.o. without alternatives?
Unfortunately no, there were moments in the game where it could branch (patron peoples voted on what Weird should do) for example during the party with monster kenny the patron folks voted on if the MC should escape or fight (fight won) so that's a potential place Weird could go back to for branching purposes if he ever decided to but that's super early into the game and would require quite a bit of work (no telling how things would change in that route anyway since the MC wouldn't form the initial armor he had in the stay and fight route if he ran off).

Personally, I'd love it if Weird would add in branching, imagine the interesting possibilities (like joining Klaus for example) but I do understand that's a lot for one fella to do. Perhaps he'll add in some stuff after he finishes up the main route we are currently on (which still feels like it's so far from being done).
 

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Yeah we still have to hit lvl 5.become a perfect being go crazy with power do a emperor of Mankind, get horused by Junior have our ass Chew up by the harem for being a manwhore. Know what happened to mom. Get freaky with mother memory. Tell ella to eat a dick. Make Jared to eat a dick. Smack the shit out of cuntboy cole for him to manup. Pet shadow and so many more things.
 
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The problem with branching paths is that it adds an absurd amount of work for games made on Renpy, which relies HEAVILY on variables in its coding.
Making a completely different path, say, joining SIN instead of HERO for example, not only means that much more writting to do, but it also means making what's basically a completely different game, narration-wise. Because side-events end up getting impacted, the story is therefore different (given how the MC is the key to all major events), the amount of variables to track also expands exponentially.

In the end, that would mean double the amount of work. And that's only for one branching path.
Now imagine, taking ItzSyther 's example, the party Fight or Flight. Imagine if WeirdWorld added that branching path. You therefore get two paths. Later on, when HERO vs SIN comes, that makes a total of 4 paths (Fight-SIN, Fight-HERO, Flight-SIN, Flight-HERO). But there might have been also the option to stay on the run, which means two more paths.
And if, later down the road, there are another branching to add, that multiply the number of roads by two, again !

It sounds amazing on paper, but as far as I know, WW works alone on this game. That means branching paths would either make each update tiny, content-wise, rather than having as much content as currently per udpate, for every single path, or each path would get updated one after the other, making the progress of the overall story that much slower.

And when you add variables into the mix, that means one modification in a variable would have disastrous consequences with the amount of other things dependent on it through each path.

Given the scope of the story and it's sheer length, for a solo dev, not branching paths is absolutely the smarter decision.

Branching paths, when it comes to amateur porn games, are better suited for shorter and faster stories. Superhuman is more on the grand scope, slow burner side of things.
 

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The problem with branching paths is that it adds an absurd amount of work for games made on Renpy, which relies HEAVILY on variables in its coding.
Making a completely different path, say, joining SIN instead of HERO for example, not only means that much more writting to do, but it also means making what's basically a completely different game, narration-wise. Because side-events end up getting impacted, the story is therefore different (given how the MC is the key to all major events), the amount of variables to track also expands exponentially.

In the end, that would mean double the amount of work. And that's only for one branching path.
Now imagine, taking ItzSyther 's example, the party Fight or Flight. Imagine if WeirdWorld added that branching path. You therefore get two paths. Later on, when HERO vs SIN comes, that makes a total of 4 paths (Fight-SIN, Fight-HERO, Flight-SIN, Flight-HERO). But there might have been also the option to stay on the run, which means two more paths.
And if, later down the road, there are another branching to add, that multiply the number of roads by two, again !

It sounds amazing on paper, but as far as I know, WW works alone on this game. That means branching paths would either make each update tiny, content-wise, rather than having as much content as currently per udpate, for every single path, or each path would get updated one after the other, making the progress of the overall story that much slower.

And when you add variables into the mix, that means one modification in a variable would have disastrous consequences with the amount of other things dependent on it through each path.

Given the scope of the story and it's sheer length, for a solo dev, not branching paths is absolutely the smarter decision.

Branching paths, when it comes to amateur porn games, are better suited for shorter and faster stories. Superhuman is more on the grand scope, slow burner side of things.
It should be noted Ella wanted us to join her team eventually seeming pretty confident in it happening later on after hearing we had joined H.E.R.O. Perhaps somewhere down the line H.E.R.O will be too busy with the Lords or something and not have time to warden Superhumans. While she was surprised by Mailk's speed to the scene it didn't seem like she was all to worried about H.E.R.O's attack in the first place, maybe her side isn't all that weak, especially considering she can use S.I.N's higher up resources to make Superhumans all the more threatening along with any other Monster side secrets.

It would make a great leeway into the Monster side of the plot which is obviously end game shit anyways, and Ella is at the pinnacle of monster info.
 

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It would make a great leeway into the Monster side of the plot which is obviously end game shit anyways, and Ella is at the pinnacle of monster info.
If I remember right towards the end of this most recent update Deryl asks MC to join him in learning more about monsters and even potentially gaining abilities similar to theirs, like with his scythe (pretty sure he got that due to monster fuckery yeah?). I hope this upcoming update (and those after) will explore that so we can get more knowledge about monsters other than from the treasure trove of it known as Ella.

Shit Deryl sounded very hyped about it as well and even states "They'll become the strongest in HERO" because of it. I'm kinda hyped to explore monsters and what better incentive then becoming a literal power house eh?
 
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If I remember right towards the end of this most recent update Deryl asks MC to join him in learning more about monsters and even potentially gaining abilities similar to theirs, like with his scythe (pretty sure he got that due to monster fuckery yeah?). I hope this upcoming update (and those after) will explore that so we can get more knowledge about monsters other than from the treasure trove of it known as Ella.

Shit Deryl sounded very hyped about it as well and even states "They'll become the strongest in HERO" because of it. I'm kinda hyped to explore monsters and what better incentive then becoming a literal power house eh?
The human race is about to face extinction and instead of seeking the fountain of wisdom (Ella) out for answers either directly or in sneaky fashion, we are playing pretend hero with H.E.R.O. Making fun little toy monster parts with Deryl, as if he'll accomplish something new that Dr. genius Xanthe hasn't already tried his entire time here. Getting big promotions so we can actually have our rights back as a pat on the back for being a glorified slave to a corporate Superhuman system. No thanks, H.E.R.O hasn't delivered anything of interest yet other than telling me classified monsters and Superhuman Lvls, the latter being something we pretty much already knew (save for the details) and the former being just a rough estimate of a threat, your body tells you that already, plus you could probably just relate them to Superhuman lvls anyway and be just fine.

The armor is pretty much the only thing I'm still interested in at H.E.R.O, and maybe the cash. The serum is too iffy for my taste and information wise H.E.R.O is too busy being in the dark to do anything worthwhile, if I'm not mistaken it took US to:

-Extract information out of a god damn crow
-Speak to Aglaecwif and learn more than H.E.R.O ever has in over 80 years.
-Have dreams relating to monster speech
-Evolve
-Grow our powers.

All the species on the planet and Xanthe the all knowing gives us a fucking spider web, something we could've looked up on Google, congratu-fucking-lations, H.E.R.O is SO helpful. And to top it off I believe they still think Ella is just this useless thorn in their side they can get rid of and be better off with, but she's done more with Monsters and general Superhuman info than H.E.R.O has in the last 80 years.

My question is why haven't the Lvl 5's said anything? Mainly Malik, he's super pro life so if every Evolution you have a deeper connection to your progenitor, and Mailk did it naturally; why hasn't he informed H.E.R.O about it? I mean fuck even Bernhardt speaks Monster they don't find that the least bit curious? That lead to NOTHING about the monsters? A fucking sewer Miniak I guess told us more in our brief interaction with it than Bernhardt's, Henrik's, and Malik's 5th Evolutions or Monster speech combined. I mean they LITERALLY have a habit of talking out of their ass about their Lords and purpose for being here yet they know NOTHING STILL??? I guess NONE of them have encountered a monster with speech and you know; had a conversation with it even a little? It didn't even mouth off grand scheme shit in front of them? 80 years and none of that? I feel like even the first time we encountered Valravn he gave us clues on a lot of stuff, but they've never seen anything of his caliber of intelligence in all these years? Nothing convo note worthy?

Edit: That was a long rant, I apologize.
 
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random question, who is Charlie's brother?

Charlie has been seen trying to get her brother out of H.E.R.O, we know thats why she works for Ella, we also know this brother is either dead or in some incapacitated state from what we've heard from ella, we know he fought something from Charlies dream that was probably a superhuman or monster.

I've seen someone say Oscar is her brother which makes a lot of sense seeing in his backstory he fought a monster, became superhuman, with his sister going missing around that time, and his body after being slain in a duel by Michael is being held for Research by H.E.R.O, is this the common consensus of the community
 

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random question, who is Charlie's brother?

Charlie has been seen trying to get her brother out of H.E.R.O, we know thats why she works for Ella, we also know this brother is either dead or in some incapacitated state from what we've heard from ella, we know he fought something from Charlies dream that was probably a superhuman or monster.

I've seen someone say Oscar is her brother which makes a lot of sense seeing in his backstory he fought a monster, became superhuman, with his sister going missing around that time, and his body after being slain in a duel by Michael is being held for Research by H.E.R.O, is this the common consensus of the community
Oscar is her brother.
 

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Making fun little toy monster parts with Deryl, as if he'll accomplish something new that Dr. genius Xanthe hasn't already tried his entire time here.
In fairness, so far we haven't encountered anyone like Deryl or the MC (except Ella) whatever Xanthe tried it didn't involve whatever Deryl or MC are/can do.

Deryl and MC are rather unique in the case of Deryl he has shown capability of incorporating other monster powers into him quite physically meanwhile the MC can do it via their memories although it doesn't compare directly to what Deryl can do.

And while yes, we are effectively making toy monster parts it'll give us the edge we need to become stronger by utilizing monster memories. With Deryl's help we can achieve a lot.

I'm just saying we haven't seen Xanthe even try to do (via experiments) what MC and Deryl may do to gain monster powers/memories except during the time he gave the MC a spider (again MC is probably the first shapeshifter he has had the chance to work with...at least from what I/we know?).
 

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So I just had a potential obvious theory that just popped into my head in light of my recent rant; what if the Lvl 5s are fully aware of everything, but they aren't revealing it to Xanthe or Dexter.

Through my replay, I'm just now realizing how dispensable those 2 are compared to the rest of the Council (Lvl 5s). We've got:
-Bernhardt who doesn't really even care about the human race and doesn't even seem himself as such.
-Nyx who'd rather kill for Corruption and a power growth then care about morals, with that level of Corruption she HAS to know SOMETHING.
-Lucius who only cares about himself, why bother saving the planet?

On the other hand we have probably the more truthful members to the actual goal of saving humanity among other things:
-Malik who does seem to truly care about human lives and bettering society.
-Zack who used his power to practically save humanity from unpredictable attacks across the globe.

Out of those 5 only TWO have made it to Lvl 5 NATURALLY, though the rest still made it to 4 and at 3 for the MC, we were having a full blown conversation with our progenitor.

Say they know about the Apostles, and that the 5 of them obviously couldn't take on all 12 let alone if they actually descended personally with their forces to boot; why reveal that painfully outmatched info?
Imagine you asked the City of New York to stop a nuke that was headed towards their city right now, how do you think they'd handle it? Now imagine if you said there could POTENTIALLY be a nuclear bomb, you now have time to prepare without the literal and confirmed notion of your most trusted practical Gods telling you there IS going to be one and we can't stop it even if we tried.

I may be wrong but I just find it VERY hard to believe after 80 years, speaking to monsters, and getting to Lvl 5 alone; they know next to NOTHING about monsters
 
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There are some huge differences between what Xanthe can do, and what Deryl + MC can do with monsters. One is a brilliant human scientist but without any inhrerent intuition that is forced to research corpses and whatever weaklings can be caught alive while doing experiments on humans that may or may not work, the other two are superhumans with a natural affinity for it, one being able to read their genetic memories and replicate them wholly or in part, and the other being able to combine them into new forms, improving them, which sounds to me a lot like a feedback loop, a cheat if you will. Additionally MC and Deryl becoming the strongest motherfuckers in HERO seems to me like a great step towards beating whatever the actual antagonist of the story has planned.

And considering who put them in this path (Ella), I'm sure that if she knew a better and faster way for MC and the rest of her chosen to become strong, she wouldn't let them join HERO in the first place. She has said time and again that the only thing that matters is MC getting strong.

As far as MC and most other characters know, the extinction event can be prevented by populating the sectors with combat ready superhumans of relatively low level, that can hold the line against weaker monsters, while leaving the big stuff to the level 5s. That's all that is mentioned about it. Perhaps there is more and HERO heads stay tight lipped about it, but anything more than that is speculation.

For Xanthe and the rest of the humans, monsters are unbeatable with current technology. The weakest level 5 has completely ascended humanity and can't be beaten no matter what. Alexis who is not the weakest of the level 5s has trouble beating Goliath which means that it's probably enough to completely wipe humanity of the face of the earth and I doubt that Goliath was the strongest monster that took part in this battle.
 

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So I just had a potential obvious theory that just popped into my head in light of my recent rant; what if the Lvl 5s are fully aware of everything, but they aren't revealing it to Xanthe or Dexter.
I mean honestly the lvl 5s could hide whatever they wish and even if it came to light it's not like Xanthe or Dexter could do anything about it...although Deus could intervene.

I don't know the limitations of his power (time travel) like how far exactly can he go or whatever.

Nico is a good example, we know the fact she can yeet the MC into space and even bring a portion of the fucking sun to hit Ella with but can she yeet someone into another solar system? We don't know. She's probably only limited to our own solar system or just the inner solar system at the moment (but that is just a guess).
 
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