VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[RonaldGrand6969]

I don't think Ella would've helped. She would've, in fact, made the Klaus fight much harder for the MC, if he asked for help. As I've said in the past, it's not in Ella's character to help the MC with his fights. Aside from advice, she won't help him. For her, that's a sign of weakness. You'll pick that up from her dialogue in game. She would have instead played both sides and actively made sure we would struggle even more and if we died then that was our own luck.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one that tipped Klaus off about electricity doing the trick after we beat Danica. It was always odd that Klaus knew to bring our weakness to capture us. She did say she set up the Klaus thing so that he would target us. Who knows what else she did in the process of that. No one but Deryl and Ella, for obvious reasons, would know we're weak to that. It's also right after the MC talks about bringing her in or not before going back home.

So, long story short, she wouldn't have helped at all during the Klaus fight. If anything, that might've made her dislike the MC and she would've increased the difficulty. Especially, when he's a spawn of the same set of Twin Apostles as her. Jake was different, in that he was weak willed from the beginning. Because of that, she mentored him to make him depend on her for her own needs. This is where the MC differs. She holds him to a higher standard. One that won't tolerate him being like Jake. You get an example of this when you tell her about your thoughts on the Minyak fight. She'll flat out insult you, if you say you nearly died.

I could totally see the bringing Ella in option leading to a dead end or to Ella lowering her respect towards the MC.

Klaus was thoroughly surprised by the fact that the tasers worked on us so she didn't tip him off on that, she just nudged the target on us from the get go.

But the Patreon vote wasn't to make Dead Ends guys it was to continue the story that way which is why we find it so odd she would even consider helping us in the first place, not in her character, so what was the plan to have the vote in the first place? I guess increasing the difficulty is as good as any, or maybe she would've ONLY gave us a tip? But the poll almost implies INSTEAD of just us, Alice, and Michael; she would also tag along herself so who knows what could've been.

But thank you Drako for putting Ella as a referee in the background to the Klaus and MC fight, with Michael/Alice and Danica/Oscar as tag teammates outside the ring like it's a wrestling match into my head, kinda wholesome way to end the night. Love you all

 

[ItzSyther]

MC is still a shapeshifter. Before engaging Kenny, he was trying to figure out if he could do it while maintaining a transformation. Even if he never thought about the armor, he could just turn into an unknown person and use his powers normally while avoiding Kenny as much as possible.

Frankly he wouldn't even need to do that cause he is a huge motherfucker and no one would bat an eye even if he punched Kenny's dolls to submission. I don't think that MC's friends being banded together was a random choice.

Doesn't him going down even in shapeshift form and punching the dolls defeat the point of the poll choice anyway? He's still going down there to fight but this time...run and fight.

Now his friends being banded together...well I mean when I'm at a party I'm usually with my homies or at least people I know about. They all know each other so they are together and hanging vibes and all mah boi. Now knowing W.W it may of had some meaning to it but I doubt it...they just knew each other and wanted to vibe together.

 

[ItzSyther]

Klaus was thoroughly surprised by the fact that the tasers worked on us so she didn't tip him off on that, she just nudged the target on us from the get go.

But the Patreon vote wasn't to make Dead Ends guys it was to continue the story that way which is why we find it so odd she would even consider helping us in the first place, not in her character, so what was the plan to have the vote in the first place?

But thank you Drako for putting Ella as a referee in the background to the Klaus and MC fight, with Michael/Alice and Danica/Oscar as tag teammates outside the ring like it's a wrestling match into my head, kinda wholesome way to end the night. Love you all

Have a good night mah boi and love ya too mannnnnnn.

Speaking of rest I should of went to bed too late now I gotta leave in a few hours to see family...fuck it one more round of Kichikuou Rance!

 

[Gtdead]

Doesn't him going down even in shapeshift form and punching the dolls defeat the point of the poll choice anyway? He's still going down there to fight but this time...run and fight.

Now his friends being banded together...well I mean when I'm at a party I'm usually with my homies or at least people I know about. They all know each other so they are together and hanging vibes and all mah boi. Now knowing W.W it may of had some meaning to it but I doubt it...they just knew each other and wanted to vibe together.

I don't think it defeats the purpose. The poll was either Fight or "Retreat". Kenny has seen MC so a confrontation is imminent unless someone else deals with him, but that doesn't automatically mean that MC will just jump out of the window never to be seen again.

WW said this in regards to the poll result

Second order of business is the poll. As you might’ve guessed FIGHT won, by a landslide. it’s even more overwhelming when you count the extra votes of the tiers. I guess the idea of getting hunt down by a monster wasn’t as appealing as fighting it outright. I probably should’ve made the sales pitch for that option a bit better. But whatever, next time. Oh, and speaking of next time, should there be a next time? What do you guys think of the community voting on ingame choices? I still haven’t decided if it’s something I’m going to repeat.

And while I agree that people are likely to stay with people they know in parties, Liz and Amber never met Jake formally as far as I remember and Deryl was introduced to Em once, but then ignored her to lust after the Nymphs. So I'm not sure if it's normal that he would stick with Em.

 

[ItzSyther]

I don't think it defeats the purpose. The poll was either Fight or "Retreat". Kenny has seen MC so a confrontation is imminent unless someone else deals with him, but that doesn't automatically mean that MC will just jump out of the window never to be seen again.

WW said this in regards to the poll result


And while I agree that people are likely to stay with people they know in parties, Liz and Amber never met Jake formally as far as I remember and Deryl was introduced to Em once, but then ignored her to lust after the Nymphs. So I'm not sure if it's normal that he would stick with Em.

You got me on the first point. The way W.W makes it sound MC would most def head back down stairs to get out and not escape via window upstairs like I assumed which going by what Weird says we would of avoided Kenny be it in MC's regular form or perhaps shapeshifting.

Now in regards to Liz and Amber, if I remember right them being together with Jake was a complete and utter coincidence and nothing more. Jake simply ran into the room they were in during the fight and hell if I remember right they weren't even visible (they were hiding in a closet I believe) nothing shows that Jake knew they were there at all...hell he even seemed surprised or rather, confused about them being in the room with him/in the closet (if I remember right).

Now I can explain the Deryl and Em being together thing: If you remember Christie ditches Em to give MC a tit job and at some point she sees Deryl (or he sees her) and they talk. Boom monster attack happens and they just happen to be together or hell they dont even meet until that point and just happen to be near each other when meeting MC in armored form.

Edit: It seems like Deryl didn't stick with Em but rather she followed him (probably because it's safer together rather than being alone.)

 

[Gtdead]

You got me on the first point. The way W.W makes it sound MC would most def head back down stairs to get out and not escape via window upstairs like I assumed which going by what Weird says we would of avoided Kenny be it in MC's regular form or perhaps shapeshifting.

Now in regards to Liz and Amber, if I remember right them being together with Jake was a complete and utter coincidence and nothing more. Jake simply ran into the room they were in during the fight and hell if I remember right they weren't even visible (they were hiding in a closet I believe) nothing shows that Jake knew they were there at all...hell he even seemed surprised or rather, confused about them being in the room with him/in the closet (if I remember right).

Now I can explain the Deryl and Em being together thing: If you remember Christie ditches Em to give MC a tit job and at some point she sees Deryl (or he sees her) and they talk. Boom monster attack happens and they just happen to be together or hell they dont even meet until that point and just happen to be near each other when meeting MC in armored form.

You are probably correct in both accounts. I don't remember the circumstances that put them together by heart. The only reason I made the connection is because it made sense to me that MC will at least try to pull his friends out of the slaughterhouse, and being banded together would make it both convenient and more likely to save them all.

 

[ItzSyther]

You are probably correct in both accounts. I don't remember the circumstances that put them together by heart. The only reason I made the connection is because it made sense to me that MC will at least try to pull his friends out of the slaughterhouse, and being banded together would make it both convenient and more likely to save them all.

Yeah I get what ya mean. Damn us talking about this makes me sad we'll never see how the other choice would of went down fully

Oh well always happy to speculate at least. Always a fun time doin that.

 

[johnsmith001]

Born again ending explaination?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Klaus was thoroughly surprised by the fact that the tasers worked on us so she didn't tip him off on that, she just nudged the target on us from the get go.

But the Patreon vote wasn't to make Dead Ends guys it was to continue the story that way which is why we find it so odd she would even consider helping us in the first place, not in her character, so what was the plan to have the vote in the first place? I guess increasing the difficulty is as good as any, or maybe she would've ONLY gave us a tip? But the poll almost implies INSTEAD of just us, Alice, and Michael; she would also tag along herself so who knows what could've been.

But thank you Drako for putting Ella as a referee in the background to the Klaus and MC fight, with Michael/Alice and Danica/Oscar as tag teammates outside the ring like it's a wrestling match into my head, kinda wholesome way to end the night. Love you all

Him being surprised it worked doesn't rule it out though. If I told you, you could see the 1st if you ate Jake and you didn't know, prior. Does that rule out me telling you, if you were shocked at it actually working when you see the 1st? No. He could've been surprised that it actually worked like he was potentially told.

Different paths would, indeed, add different dead ends. The story continuing doesn't rule out the possibility of dying. It could, in fact, lead to a dead end, if she helped you. That's not saying the story couldn't continue from picking Ella. It's saying that it would potentially lead to a new set of dead ends.

Realistically, what advice could Ella have given us about Klaus? The MC already learned about his barrier weakness from their first fight. Michael already prepared for Oscar's ability. Only thing that would change is their original plan would've worked, as the MC wouldn't have been captured. Ella also already out levels everybody in the fight. That alone tells me she would've stirred the pot some. Especially since it would be too easy for the MC.

Born again ending explaination?

Requirements to see it or about what's happening during it? Requirements is 25 Corruption points.

As for what's happening, the MC is being reborn as the Origin/Arbiter of his Twin Apostles(The 3rd and 4th). The Eye you see floating during the scene. During this rebirth, his power reaches beyond Level 5 and he goes out looking for someone to get more of his original power back.

If you're referring to the very end of the scene. Deus pretty much went back in time and killed him before he was reborn inside of the MC. I put spoilers just in case you didn't see the scenes itself.

 

[mcmng]

Sheesh, can't get a good night's sleep without missing an entire argument about WW planning ahead, will you guys slow down a little so I can catch up?

joking aside, I'm pretty sure WW himself said a while ago he had the story for the game done. I gues that means he definitely plans ahead (or planned ahead in this case?). Let's see here... Yep, found it:

There's a separate flag for every time you visit bailey, so I can track if the storyline was never started, never finished, or even where specifically in the storyline you've progressed to.

Bailey Eaten is a simple yes or no variable. If it's true she's eaten, if it's false she's not eaten, either can be tracked. The default is false.

I'll give a vague answer, but understand that I generally keep my nose out of these discussions because I don't want people to think I'm making some sort of promise, and because in general, it's not my place to comment about the story as the author. Now with all that said, nothing is definitive, if I wanted to I could easily do content with the variables set in Bailey's code, it's just a matter of me choosing to spend the time. And yes I have decided, I've had the whole storyline for superhuman written for some time now, but everyone will just have to wait and see like with everything else in the game.

 

[weezal]

anybody got devlog 61?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

As for Deus, the theory I have for him is that he simultaneously exists in several points in time. Echo would be a more adequate word. It's most likely why people think he's a human, spawn or a monster when they see him. His body is linked to his parallel selves throughout the past and the alternate realities of the present. Not the future so much, even though he can see it. I don't think current Deus can go to the future.

That said, it wouldn't explain why his future self, at level 5, wouldn't just reach back in time and instantly kill stuff instead. Unless he never reaches Level 5, intentionally or because the 5th Apostle resides in Time and it would catch it's attention if he time traveled too much.

That's honestly why I find time based stuff in fiction a pain. There's so much going on with it that leads to even more questions.

 

[bloodaxis]

3. Ella - This one is most certainly possible, but I don't really see the motive other than just trying to fuck with H.E.R.O. But alright, let's say she did do it, wouldn't that just draw more attention to her and encourage H.E.R.O to give her LESS time to prepare for her countermeasures? The only gain I see is satisfaction but that's if she even gives a damn enough to fuck with H.E.R.O randomly to begin with.

I go with the theory that anyone who stands to benefit from the dissolution of the marriage would be a suspect, and in that case Langdon most definitely fits the bill, maybe they have someone that can control monsters enough that they could put it into stasis or whatever until they were officiating and it could lash out and act as an improvised biological explosive, target was probably also not only alaric but Tiffany as well if it was Langdon.
Edit: Let me expound on this a bit, while Alaric right now would not be a threat to Langdon, he's from a very influential family and he's set to become supreme minister in the future, if Dexter had the supreme minister under his thumb Langdon'd be fucked, because they'd have both justification and the power to just outright get rid of him and declare him a terrorist threat. Remember here that Dexter still exists in the political sphere where he has to manoeuvre both public sentiment and the rest of the world with their powerful families and minor powers. And with Alarics penchant for protecting the lower class they could set up an authoritarian government where the only true power would be the supreme minister and the government itself, and HERO the peacekeeping wing of the government would be under/to the side of the rulers, with Dexter as its nominal head and he'd obviously be controlling Alaric through Tiffany. Maybe they'd even get rid of corporations altogether and neuter the powerbase of anyone not on Dexters side, he could skate away without losing anything because all his assets would be in HERO.

Another headcanon thing is that Ella knows we've been hobnobbing with tiffany and wants to help us out in her usual fucked up way, wingmanning for us to get tiffany added to our harem or some shit.

 

[mcmng]

As for Deus, the theory I have for him is that he simultaneously exists in several points in time. Echo would be a more adequate word. It's most likely why people think he's a human, spawn or a monster when they see him. His body is linked to his parallel selves throughout the past and the alternate realities of the present. Not the future so much, even though he can see it. I don't think current Deus can go to the future.

That said, it wouldn't explain why his future self, at level 5, wouldn't just reach back in time and instantly kill stuff instead. Unless he never reaches Level 5, intentionally or because the 5th Apostle resides in Time and it would catch it's attention if he time traveled too much.

That's honestly why I find time based stuff in fiction a pain. There's so much going on with it that leads to even more questions.

inb4 Level 5 Deus becomes a Gestalt conciousness who actively changes the course of time to make all parallel dimensions collapse into a single superposed timeline.
And yeah, I agree that time travel creates too much plotholes in a story when not written correctly. Not to say time travelers/oracles are generally massive assholes in fiction (God Emperor Leto Atreides II approves).

I go with the theory that anyone who stands to benefit from the dissolution of the marriage would be a suspect, and in that case Langdon most definitely fits the bill, maybe they have someone that can control monsters enough that they could put it into stasis or whatever until they were officiating and it could lash out and act as an improvised biological explosive, target was probably also not only alaric but Tiffany as well if it was Langdon.

Another headcanon thing is that Ella knows we've been hobnobbing with tiffany and wants to help us out in her usual fucked up way, wingmanning for us to get tiffany added to our harem or some shit.

Ella theory makes more sense because she has the power of 4th wall breaking, therefore helping the MC coom™ is the only right course of action

 

[johnsmith001]

As for Deus, the theory I have for him is that he simultaneously exists in several points in time. Echo would be a more adequate word. It's most likely why people think he's a human, spawn or a monster when they see him. His body is linked to his parallel selves throughout the past and the alternate realities of the present. Not the future so much, even though he can see it. I don't think current Deus can go to the future.

That said, it wouldn't explain why his future self, at level 5, wouldn't just reach back in time and instantly kill stuff instead. Unless he never reaches Level 5, intentionally or because the 5th Apostle resides in Time and it would catch it's attention if he time traveled too much.

That's honestly why I find time based stuff in fiction a pain. There's so much going on with it that leads to even more questions.

You may know some info about how human irl can see the future. Imagine flows of events and possibilities forming an image of a tree, each possibility is a branch. It is simply we can receive some info from other versions of us in some other branches that are ahead of us in order of time. The character Dexter may have abilities similar to this.
Or we irl can choose to focus to get info from only the center trunk of the "tree", which is the set of events that The One Infinite Intelligence (God in religions language) plan ahead for each of us. The info in this case would be the purest and most reliable, giving proofs of good health and stable life.

 

[Gtdead]

Let's think about it:

1) Is it possible that the attack was random? Too much coincidence. Only kills the groom and his entourage, happens after Tiffany gets married, not before, and it's able to bypass detection from both Deus (ahead of time) and the level 5s attending, including Nyx who is implied to be really good at detection.

So no, this wasn't random.

2) Let's look at clues.

Clue 1: Deus missed it. Deus seems to miss anything related to the MC. Tiffany is a companion of sorts, so perhaps she will play some role in the future. If that's the case, it's possible that Deus just ignored it.

Clue 2: Nyx and the rest of the level 5s missed it. Whoever did this planned ahead and used a monster that went under their radar.

Clue 3: The monster went straight for Alaric. For a monster to be so precise, it has to either be instructed, or be lured. The only ones we know that can speak with monsters are HERO captains. Ella may be able to ally with them but that doesn't necessarily mean that she can give them so precise instructions. However, the second option, monster being lured, is possible for Ella, HERO and Langdon, assuming that Langdon is powerful enough to be able to procure the parts for the right pill.

Clue 4: Does anyone actually benefit from Alaric's death? Langdon could benefit by making HERO seem incompetent, but why go after Alaric instead of Dexter? For all he and we know, Dexter is a human and a MUCH better target. Alaric is small fry and it's also possible for Langdon to try and sway him to his side, getting political power that he currently lacks in comparison. Dexter on the other hand does have something to gain. He can spin it as a horror that even HERO couldn't deal with, so he needs more funding/members/laws/political power to enforce them, he would maintain the connection to one of the influential families and free Tiffany of Alaric's burden. After all he claims that his father was good at picking a wife for him, but Alaric is obviously a poor choice for Tiffany.

Clue 5: Alaric is a dolt. He is too irrelevant to the supernatural world. So whatever the reason for his death, it's either a stepping stone for political reforms that related to the supernatural, or some very "human" reason, like revenge, economic damage etc.

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Possible culprits:
Ella - Deus turns a blind eye to some of Ella's doings and she is capable of creating a lure. She has enough knowledge of HERO captains to bypass their detection, but the only possible motive she could have would be related to Tiffany being a spawn of the 8th, and who gives a shit if Alaric is alive?
I find her involvement highly unlikely.

Deus - Someone who can predict big events but doesn't do anything about them is always suspicious, but again this sounds extreme considering that it's Alaric we are talking about.

Langdon - Yes it's possible, but as I said, why Alaric, who could potentially be swayed, over Dexter who is supposed to be the most powerful human in existence. If I had such a weapon I'd go for the head, not the small toe nail. The timing is also bad. If it had happened before the wedding it would be better, but it's possible that this was a logistics problem.

Dexter - He doesn't have exactly a good reason, but he is a bit of a psychopath and if he thinks that Alaric is a bad match for his daughter, this event works in his favor. He is also in a unique position to create a lure with Xanthe's help, test the waters a bit against the captains and what they can do.

At this point, I can't help but think that Dexter with Xanthe's help is the culprit. Alaric is way too irrelevant, no matter how much influence his family has. No one in the superhuman world would care about him and his greatest achievement to date was his marriage to the Miliken daughter who doesn't give a fuck about him. Also don't forget that he fucked up against Jake (although I can't blame him), so Dexter may be angry at him.

 

[necromater]

Man so is deus the real villain cus that's masters of the earth plot Twist XD.
I just finished that one XD man this plot of who killed cuckboy is worse than a full table uno game.

 

[necromater]

We are playing superclue XD we know the victim, the place, the weapon.

 

[necromater]

Fuck it was Nyx. Her love killed similar way out of her own mouth the monster came from below what is below the altar? the catacombs who was in the catacombs? Nyx maybe she was talking with the dead to see where the altar was so she could guide the chimera somehow. Fuck you guys now i'm also making a theory on how to kill a cuck XD.

 

[ItzSyther]

Now who dun killed the cuck?

Dexter? Tiffany? Langdon? Ella? The level 5s? Deus? No you fools it was clearly the dog! Shadow has all the motives...Alaric said she wasn't the best girl! Therefore she had her monster goon do him in...said goon owed her a favor after their tour of duty in dog-nam....think about it that monster goon who killed Alaric has a rather...canine appearance...coincidence? I think not! Lady Shadow has her paws all over the world it's only a matter of time before she takes control man...then its game over man! Although I welcome our sexy granny dog overlord!

Remember everyone, do it for her.

But on a serious note I got big money on it being Ella's crew who did Alaric de Cuck in. Or refer back to my theory of Dexter and all of the level 5s being involved (Deus included) in making Alaric a Martyr for the HERO cause (get public on their side) against the monster threat and if possible spin the whole thing to blame SIN.