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Yeah Alice is actually fuckin wild, even more so because she's not a DIRECT spawn of an Apostle, her connection to it is just ridiculous.
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I don't think they say they "ran out of power" per say but rather that they used a lot up on the MC. Which regardless, is still odd, but maybe it had to do with their usual grindset having already sapped their strength? They do mention the incredible Regen of the MC, and to make sure Malik finishes us off (cause of his ability), but to say they even went all out would probably be an overstatement. Clark and Alexis even at Level 4 could've easily leveled that entire street if they wanted to, but like to keep destruction at a minimum (unless the situation calls for it), even in the Ella fight Clark barely lifts a finger and Alexis is only really surprised attacked which forces them to finally just say "fuck it" and evolving to skip all the hassle of having to use even more energy to beat her.
It is odd that we lasted that long though you're right...I suppose it would be due to the consumption, I mean shit look how strong Kenny got from consuming a small amount of people in a short time frame, the only real moves they really do are shoot little enhanced bullets and skewering with iron whenever impaled or regenerated. No matter how you look at it, there should be no way they would be out of power from that fight alone, which is why I think it's more from the daily monster hunting grind.
As to why the MC didn't feel the pain I feel like it's obvious, he barely knew what planet he was on or who he was. Similarly to the Origin possessing him, any of our Evolutions, or the Kenny Dead End orgy; it's a monster thing no doubt, we were getting there.
I think the MC's power being forced to take over and keep him alive put the MC more in touch with his power than he's been outside of an evolution, and it was turbocharged into making sure he survived.
His regeneration might have been much stronger than it normally would have been at that point in time.
I think the tail consuming people also charged him up a bit more.
This scene might also have happened before Deus joined up with H.E.R.O.
A public attack by an out of control superhuman like that is one of his primary purposes, and the MC wouldn't have survived to further Deus' own goals later, so there wouldn't be any reason for him to cover that up like he did about the MC's identity being leaked.
Either that or the MC can be a blindspot in his vision of the future.
Or maybe Deus just knew that was a dead end, and the MC would be forced to restart the game.
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I found something interesting...while we can disprove it was the 8th potentially at the Graduation Massacre, we can still assume it was an Apostle and that's why Zack showed up there.
a few years ago, which means there's a chance that one of the corpses were recovered at the Massacre?
A couple more of them leads me to believe 2, as is later solidified by saying BOTH were corpses. We know of those recent 2 one was the 8th and the other is probably the one Claudia is getting of similar properties. Perhaps she's getting Life? As we know Light can heal people in the Battle of Diamonds, Claudia has a kind hearted nature about her, perhaps a monster that spreads non violence is just what would suit her, allowing her to still help Tiffany.
My guess is the 1st one recovered years ago was the one at the Massacre, and also the one that injured Zack and his squad. If true, perhaps it was in correlation to the 7th in some way and Ella was warned about it through the 4th? Who knows.
If I was a monster that despised a certain Apostle pair, and I knew I couldn't physically hurt them, but COULD hurt their spawn that potentially carries out their motives; it would make sense to go hunt them down while they are weak, especially when it was fresh news. Even Valravn could detect when the 2nd made it's move, or Aglaecwif hearing about the 1st taking on a spawn despite it's rarity. There's a good chance:
-Sometime in that Ella year obtaining her powers, she got her powers from the 3rd & 4th Avatars.
-Their descent attracted the 7th (i.e recognizing it in the Dead End and saying it's not possible). Maybe she was shocked how it descended again so fast after being defeated?
-The 3rd & 4th held it off, we know they have intervened against the 1st, why not team up against the 7th?
-Ella retreated home and lost both her parents to it. But it ended up being defeated by the 2 of them together (3rd & 4th)?
-She kept running, did some soul searching as an orphan and discovering her newfound powers, where she met a young boy named MC, that she grew close to for a brief time.
-The 3rd & 4th let her in on their plans to combat the crazy ass force that is the 7th and his possy, and that's to get the Arbiter, but they'll need a vessel for themselves and it.
-At first she wants nothing to do with it, explaining her outbursts talking to herself when she gets back with Christie.
-The 7th is furious to be beaten by his leaders, so he sends one of his loyal followers (9th, 10th or 11th?) To go kill the 3rd & 4th, assuming they are still close to the spawn.
-Turns out the 3rd & 4th were a wee bit too drained from that encounter with the 7th, and instead warn Ella that one of the Apostles is nearby, and after her.
-This would explain why Ella only stops Christie AFTER the fact that they are already there at the party site, she knocks Christie out and is about to run.
-Whatever Apostle was sent, doesn't know what Ella looks like obviously, but knows they are nearby and are a kid to boot, narrowing down it's targets to only the grade rather than the faculty onlookers. We know the Dark followers aren't exactly the most caring bunch, so it starts slashing down the students.
-Considering it is an Apostle, it happens in a matter of seconds, before Zack arrives a little late to the party and takes the thing on alone with his squad.
-Ella watches from the side lines explaining why she was still there at the Massacre, yet not a suspect on H.E.R.O's radar FOR the murders, instead listed as a survivor.
-It also explains the tall man wearing a hood from one of the eye witnesses. For him to claim HE was responsible, either he got in late to see only him standing atop the bodies or it all happened INCREDIBLY fast and Zack pushed himself a little TOO far to end it quickly, explaining why it's taken YEARS even WITH an Evolution later on to recover.
Bam! Bit if a stretch I know, but I feel like this Massacre is gonna tie in a lot of shit later on.
a few years ago, which means there's a chance that one of the corpses were recovered at the Massacre?
A couple more of them leads me to believe 2, as is later solidified by saying BOTH were corpses. We know of those recent 2 one was the 8th and the other is probably the one Claudia is getting of similar properties. Perhaps she's getting Life? As we know Light can heal people in the Battle of Diamonds, Claudia has a kind hearted nature about her, perhaps a monster that spreads non violence is just what would suit her, allowing her to still help Tiffany.
My guess is the 1st one recovered years ago was the one at the Massacre, and also the one that injured Zack and his squad. If true, perhaps it was in correlation to the 7th in some way and Ella was warned about it through the 4th? Who knows.
If I was a monster that despised a certain Apostle pair, and I knew I couldn't physically hurt them, but COULD hurt their spawn that potentially carries out their motives; it would make sense to go hunt them down while they are weak, especially when it was fresh news. Even Valravn could detect when the 2nd made it's move, or Aglaecwif hearing about the 1st taking on a spawn despite it's rarity. There's a good chance:
-Sometime in that Ella year obtaining her powers, she got her powers from the 3rd & 4th Avatars.
-Their descent attracted the 7th (i.e recognizing it in the Dead End and saying it's not possible). Maybe she was shocked how it descended again so fast after being defeated?
-The 3rd & 4th held it off, we know they have intervened against the 1st, why not team up against the 7th?
-Ella retreated home and lost both her parents to it. But it ended up being defeated by the 2 of them together (3rd & 4th)?
-She kept running, did some soul searching as an orphan and discovering her newfound powers, where she met a young boy named MC, that she grew close to for a brief time.
-The 3rd & 4th let her in on their plans to combat the crazy ass force that is the 7th and his possy, and that's to get the Arbiter, but they'll need a vessel for themselves and it.
-At first she wants nothing to do with it, explaining her outbursts talking to herself when she gets back with Christie.
-The 7th is furious to be beaten by his leaders, so he sends one of his loyal followers (9th, 10th or 11th?) To go kill the 3rd & 4th, assuming they are still close to the spawn.
-Turns out the 3rd & 4th were a wee bit too drained from that encounter with the 7th, and instead warn Ella that one of the Apostles is nearby, and after her.
-This would explain why Ella only stops Christie AFTER the fact that they are already there at the party site, she knocks Christie out and is about to run.
-Whatever Apostle was sent, doesn't know what Ella looks like obviously, but knows they are nearby and are a kid to boot, narrowing down it's targets to only the grade rather than the faculty onlookers. We know the Dark followers aren't exactly the most caring bunch, so it starts slashing down the students.
-Considering it is an Apostle, it happens in a matter of seconds, before Zack arrives a little late to the party and takes the thing on alone with his squad.
-Ella watches from the side lines explaining why she was still there at the Massacre, yet not a suspect on H.E.R.O's radar FOR the murders, instead listed as a survivor.
-It also explains the tall man wearing a hood from one of the eye witnesses. For him to claim HE was responsible, either he got in late to see only him standing atop the bodies or it all happened INCREDIBLY fast and Zack pushed himself a little TOO far to end it quickly, explaining why it's taken YEARS even WITH an Evolution later on to recover.
Bam! Bit if a stretch I know, but I feel like this Massacre is gonna tie in a lot of shit later on.
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On ancestries and mixing of bloodlines:
1) Ella was anxious that Deryl couldn't finish the heart, because the one she provided him wasn't "pureblooded".
2) Aglaecwif mentions that Ella requires monster hearts from beings "with an untainted connection to a single lord".
3) Of the monsters we know, Aglaecwif and Valravn have the correct type of hearts, one is the descendant of the 4th and the other is of the 7th. Of the two, we know that Valravn is a variant and has no other ancestries other than the 7th. For Aglaecwif we can only speculate but she claims that she is the descendant of the 4th. I'm also willing to bet that Hex has a pure connection to the Sixth, and possibly Goliath to the third.
4) Xanthe's book on Naturalborn mentions that due to cross breeding the can achieve great genetic diversity, that based on the previous 3 points doesn't seem like a good thing. Perhaps a naturalborn may be born that ends up being stronger than the gods themselves through some mechanism, but up till now this hasn't happened. In fact only humans have showed a talent for adapting and becoming stronger no matter their power.
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On Light vs Time for traveling:
You used an edge case that is iffy at best and isn't exactly supported by what Aglaecwif says. And even if that's the case, the Light Apostle would still not experience time.
1) The Rift can be reached by traveling the cosmos. This means that it's not beyond the cosmic event horizon, otherwise it would be impossible to reach.
2) It would take an eternity for any but the Sixth and the Eighth. Even if the Apostle of Time can freeze time, it would still take him an eternity. The Apostle of Light on the other hand from his perspective would travel instantly, but for the observer an eternity may have passed. Since Aglaecwif doesn't mention observers in any shape or form, it's more likely that it's Space + Light and not Space + Time.
3) In principle, Apostles related to Energy and Mass could potentially travel close to the speed of light, so it's even possible that Light can move faster than light. Xanthe already claims that it's possible for a superhuman to perform physically impossible feats like FTL. The way Nico does it, or a possible entity that freezes time, doesn't break any laws of the universe and both of these are not FTL travel anyway.
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On Alice having both powers:
1) In the special relativity model, space and time are linked. WW uses a lot of concepts based on physics so it's fair to assume that at the very least, the classical model is important enough to take into account when discussing the game.
2) The player can observe that space and time related powers are very different from each other. Also considering that the Apostles come in pairs that are loosely linked in scope, it makes sense that if we have a Space apostle, we also have a Time apostle that is probably it's twin.
3) Gravity is the result of warped spacetime. But we mostly observe gravity through mass effect on spatial dimensions and time dillation is an aftereffect in a sense. If we had to choose one of Space and Time to attribute to gravity powers, that would be Space.
4) If Alice's powers are the result of both Space and Time, then they are inferior. All the "lesser" superhumans have very focused superpowers with limited applications. Tiffany can turn herself into light, use photobiomodulation or charge batteries, and that's only as a level 1. Clark on the other hand is a level 5 with a focused power that can only empower living and inanimate things, a fraction of what Tiffany can do. Same with MC. He can use his powers together or seperate, while Alice assuming that has both, can only use a combined version.
The way I see it, Alice's power is strong but flawed. A true heir of Space would be able to do whatever he wanted with it. He could teleport, create pocket dimensions, warp the three dimensions changing the trajectory of anything he wanted. Alice can only do the latter and the application is a bit iffy. Perhaps she hasn't figured it out, perhaps it's possible to get an upgrade if she manages to do whatever the Apostle asks of her. Who knows.
If on the other hand, Alice's power is indeed the untainted trait, it's possible that her powers of gravity is the "dumb brain liking fists", but essentially she warps space and creates gravity, but with enough power she can manage to create wormholes, change trajectories and other stuff like that.
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NameNo003, what are you waiting for? Get your ass on the job - My corruption said
What? Again? But I'm tired.
Yes, I know, but I can feel it now, I am going to reach to the peak soon and I need more! Consume more, NameNo003! Until your mind is filled with me and then no one would stop us.
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Gentlemans, I'm so sorry, I just can't stop him, today let me guide you to R&X aka hidden base of H.E.R.O underground. I shall introduce you to some chicks of the school. Enjoy yourself!
Feel free to feed me your thoughts and opinions as usual! My corruption is a hungry bastard. I hope he would not prove to be a problem in the future. But for now, please stay tuned for next time! Some monsters and things are going to step up their game.
What? Again? But I'm tired.
Yes, I know, but I can feel it now, I am going to reach to the peak soon and I need more! Consume more, NameNo003! Until your mind is filled with me and then no one would stop us.
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Feel free to feed me your thoughts and opinions as usual! My corruption is a hungry bastard. I hope he would not prove to be a problem in the future. But for now, please stay tuned for next time! Some monsters and things are going to step up their game.
I know there's the whole 'just because I dress this way' thing but, is Ella really surprised that Dave called her a satanist when she's openly wearing a large, upside down crusifix on her choker?
I also feel the need to add that neanderthals didn't come before man, they're different branches.
I also feel the need to add that neanderthals didn't come before man, they're different branches.
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Playing this game I thought that I understood everything I had to. I was severely wrong. This game brought in the fucking Geniuses of F95 and I thank you, for now I shall soon understand it all.
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If you intend to read this discussion thread thoroghly you're in for one hell of a long ride. Good luck with that, mate. I've been here for almost the entire game's life cycle save for the first release and the first update and when I decided to keep up with all discussions it felt like reading through the conversations Tolkien had with CS Lewis
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There is literally no way on god's green earth anyone can read through this whole ass thread in good conscience.If you intend to read this discussion thread thoroghly you're in for one hell of a long ride. Good luck with that, mate. I've been here for almost the entire game's life cycle save for the first release and the first update and when I decided to keep up with all discussions it felt like reading through the conversations Tolkien had with CS Lewis
I can't remember who did it, but I think the longest reply on here was SCIENTIFICALLY and MATHEMATICALLY dissecting how powerful Bernhardt's attack was against the mountain monster. It took up a whole page AND THEN some, boggles my fucking mind yet I have incredible respect for that guy.
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Of course taking Bernard to numbers gonna be a pain because the dude hits you with the atmosphere maybe he can even control air speed . and everything goes downhill from there because Dexter says he can Fix the nuclear Fallout that means he can control gas and other elements so either the asshole is even more op that we give him credit for or is like Alice that is only now that she gets creative with her powers Beyond gonna punch you or kick you. When She got the gravi bomb i was like shittttttt she is a walking Nuke then she evolves and now you can not run because she now can pull you with gravity fields and then turn you into a 7zip file XD like she did with the chimera.
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Good lord Jess and Angelina just reached my top 3 out of everything you have done thus far.
Not quite about mc becoming a monster, more like he was highly corrupted (corruption was like 30 iirc) so yeah while mc was there he was a little fucked in the head, and by becoming corrupted in such early state of his evo even though he had low power he was really in part with his monster side thats why he was so strong in healing etc.
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I was recovering from my crippling addiction to superhuman until i had the dumb idea of checking why there were no new alerts to this thread when i opened the first page, this mistake cost me three new bad ends, two new sex scenes and new playthrough
.But honestly i didn't even remembered that the fight against the thugs was the first bad ending of the game, i thought it was the one you fight against Ella, if you guys didn't mention i don't think i would ever try it.
I can only say that it was amazing, WW already setting up A LOT OF SHIT so early and really important things, Mc's tail, HERO, Malik Alexis and Clark with theirs respective powers, and even if the quality of the images was still at the first stages you can feel how much talent WW has, i think it will become one of the best scenes for me from now on.
By the way i think that Alexis and Clark were just annoyed that Mc was so hard to kill, enhanced bullets and blades are a bad match against regeneration, so leaving Malik to finish the job was just easier for them, he is also the one who burns the whole house during Kenny's bad ending.
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I too don't believe that evolution will continue in increments of 10x. But I also don't think that the evolution gains are fixed.
Basically I entertained the thought that the evolution is going to give more than 150 power as I expected MC to evolve a short time after
Valravn. This is why:
My theory is that the increases are relative to the power that the superhuman has at the moment of his evolution. The boost is roughly 2x, so the superhuman ends up becoming three times as powerful.
The only reason WW uses a fixed addition instead of a multiplication is to control the game's progression a bit better and make power checks more precise.
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So are these numbers.. normal? Could someone like Henri have 80.000 power and someone like Ella have 31590 power as a
newborn level 5? Well, yes it is and frankly I think that Henri has way more than that.
Ella says that power differences among level 5s are extreme. We can safely assume that MC will have reached or surpassed 1000
power once he reaches his 4th (my estimate is 2000~ but anyway). Do 4 digit differences seem extreme to you, all things
considered? They don't to me. I would expect differences of around ten thousand power to be considered "normal".
Ella for example doesn't seem to be able to do anything to Malik, while she had an edge against Nico. This isn't a great example
because Ella is tricksy and she likes to play with her food. She even did it with MC at the very beginning of the game, giving him
hope that there is a possibility to beat her. But assuming that Ella tried her best, the power differential would be overwhelming.
Even if we assume that the numbers are way lower than my projections and Ella has let's say 5000 power, Malik sounds to me
that he would have to be around 15000 or more. The effect he had in the battle was astounding. He defeated the monsters that
trapped him, cooked the Goliath, nuked half the dimension and went after Ella without breaking a sweat in the meantime, casually
taking his time to examine her powers and do some theorycrafting. Ella's attempt to attack him was pitiful.
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Ok but did you count for endo and exo traits? Or is just one general formula because Michael skill is a game changer mate became a lithium battery XD. He needs 3 types of Energy internal,external and monster so is like a fire triangle also alice Evo was on clark steroids XD plus her almost perfect match with Big Daddy E we gonna Need her updated dosier to be sure. fucking W.W wiping his butt with our theories every royal rumble he makes also MC has some Energy absortion is just that he still needs to learn how to use it. Man this shit is so hard we would have to make a study of every superhuman to get an answer. Fuck this is worse than a phd study.
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Now that you mention it, WW's last post here is almost a year old.
Quick question to y'all forum gremlins: do you think WW still reads this thread and just stay silent or did he leave us for good and just comunicates through discord/patreon/etc?
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I think he reads our ramblings but he is wise and keeps silent so we dont go full crazy fan on him. That or we are so weird that he ignore us to keep his mental health XD in that casé i Blame syther dogclappers, 69 furrycorps and Drako one man crusade for being the meanest asshole on the forum and the game. is weird that he has being calm this days too calm..... XD
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