VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Gtdead]

Spoiler: On Michael's compatibility

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Spoiler: On dogclappers

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Spoiler: Some musings on superhuman breeding

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I would just like to point it out that Alice still feels the recoil at least to some extent, there is a scene where she is training with Michael and he notices that her fighting stance is different, more stable and using punches instead of her usual pirouetting kicks, he theorizes that it was because whitout a firm grip on the ground the impact of her attacks would affect her too. Then he tricks her into using a kick and redirects it to the ground, which immediately sends her flying.

I always interpreted Alice's power as "manipulating" gravity itself, the explosions being a consequence of her "pushing" things away though it might not make sense since gravity pulls objects with mass to each other, but giving the supernatural way superhuman work didn't seem a big problem for her to use it to repel things, but i really like your compressed air theory for the graviton orbs, it IS pretty cool.

For the recoil thing, it's the reason I used the word "same". I remember the scene and like most of the "tactics" scenes, it's one of my favorites.
It shows how good Michael is at reading his target. I got upset that Alice managed to turn it against him, but then again it was probably the "catalyst" for the cool scenes against Laurie and the flying monster so I'm not complaining.

As the mechanics of her powers, I've googled and prompted ChatGPT with a rephrase of "gravity causing explosions" too many times to count and I couldn't find anything that seemed like a good answer. It was fucking irritating because most powers have some rhyme or reason, but Alice's seemed the exact opposite of what is expected of gravity! I can't know if my theory is correct, but just having one that kind of explains how she causes explosions at least calmed me down somewhat. ^_^

My brother in Talos, Rebis is a literal alchemical construct and both Aglaecwif and Valravn speak about monster magic, not to say Aglaecwif empowers the MC using magic if you choose power or skill when interacting with her. I believe we're past the point of "is superhuman strictly sci-fi or does it have fantasy elements as well".

Julianos talks to me in my sleep, I can't let go! Yea, can't argue with this point. There are a lot of magical things going on there and the examples I've given, even if less exotic, are actually magic. But I do care about consistency. To explain what I'm talking about:

The Rebis may be "magical", but it actually understands that, and it obsessed with researching it's nature. Which allows the possibility that there is a perfectly good reason that at least makes sense in-setting.

Then we have other kinds of internal consistency, like Aglaecwif's magic. It's just so easy to explain this by claiming that since she is the descendant of 4th and has power over memories, all she did was to unlock some hidden potential inside MC. Some memory not fully realized, some dormant ability, w/e. If it was a monster of Space for example, I wouldn't be able to make such a claim. But it's not, and despite the absurdity, it remains somewhat consistent.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

Pregnancy will probably be a thing due to our powers, not really anything to argue about or debunk. Though it'll probably be endgame due to:
A. Level 5 requirement, greater control over DNA.
B. Plot importance, the last thing anyone wants is a pregnant Alice, Tiffany, or Ella when they are having an epic battle or Evolution.

 

[necromater]

So.do we know who gave the fairy casé to the casino? Was it ella? was it deus ? Why ella gave the tapes to tiff ? Is she playing harem maker? Is a plan to fuck up hero ? Do i feel bored because my wife made me come to a place i hate?

 

[necromater]

You zealots can fight for the Aedra all you want but everyone knows who is the real big cheese

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

So.do we know who gave the fairy casé to the casino? Was it ella? was it deus ? Why ella gave the tapes to tiff ? Is she playing harem maker? Is a plan to fuck up hero ? Do i feel bored because my wife made me come to a place i hate?

Spoiler: Why Ella Gave The Tapes To Tiffany

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Spoiler: Who Donated the Fairy?

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[Gtdead]

So.do we know who gave the fairy casé to the casino? Was it ella? was it deus ? Why ella gave the tapes to tiff ? Is she playing harem maker? Is a plan to fuck up hero ? Do i feel bored because my wife made me come to a place i hate?

For the fairy case:
Fact 1) Xanthe wants it but for some reason he doesn't rely on HERO superhumans to get it by force.
Fact 2) There is some intrigue going on with Danica. Xanthe claims that he has a personal relationship with her which come in contrast with her behavior towards him while under Klaus payroll.
Fact 3) Xanthe seems to get help from Nico, but again he doesn't send her to grab the case.
Fact 4) The monster was alive when everyone thought it was dead.

Xanthe wanting it shouldn't be an important point. It's supposed to be a monster corpse that he can use to create more superhumans, do research etc. The interesting part is that he doesn't have any support from superhumans. That doesn't necessarily mean that HERO don't care but we know that they are worked to the bone. We also know that they rely on Deus to plan their operations.

Danica having a personal relationship with him could mean that he wanted her undercover for some purpose. That reason probably isn't to "steal" the thing. After all he seems willing to pay Klaus and if he wanted to avoid the payment he could wait till the last minute and backstab him. I think that Danica is there to find out about whoever gave the monster to the casino.

The reason why Xanthe gets help from Nico can be very simple. She is the most efficient HERO agent, so she probably is the only one who can help him. She probably has an ulterior motive too, and that's the evolution serum. The interesting part is that Nico doesn't just grab the cannister. So she either can't (perhaps because the monster is kin), or Xanthe suspects whoever sold it has a vested interested in seeing it reaching it's natural destination, while having the means to detect Nico.

The monster being alive can't be accidental. This was a deception, so whoever did it wanted to create some situation. What are the chances that whoever did it couldn't deal with it in case things went really bad? Of course, someone could know about HERO and their ability to deal with them, but

So who could it be:
The way I see it there are two candidates.

1) Unknown faction of researchers/superhumans that we have yet to meet (considering that we get new characters, perhaps there will be some grand reveal?). This thing is well orchestrated and the fact that Nico didn't just "deal" with it the usual way means someone is using his influence. This would also explain Danica's role in this situation along with her personal relationship to Xanthe (being undercover trying to determine who is the orchestrator).

2) Deus. Of all the known characters he is the best candidate IMO.
a) Deus claims to be able to corner Hexenringe. So perhaps he can also deal with Nico's tricks, not allowing her to just deal with the situation.
b) Being a fortune teller, he could tell Xanthe how this thing will play out but he didn't. That's not the best argument, but Deus is ALWAYS suspicious due to this reason.
c) The situation GREATLY benefits the MC. MC ends up evolving and getting one more superhuman ally who ends up becoming his girlfriend.
d) If Deus is good at dealing with the Hexenringe, it stands to reason that he is good against any monster descending from the Sixth. So he was the one who mangled the Fairy in the first place.

I'm generally reluctant to accuse Deus of such things, but this one plays to his strengths. So for now I think that he is the best candidate.

 

[TerminusPrime]

For the fairy case:
Fact 1) Xanthe wants it but for some reason he doesn't rely on HERO superhumans to get it by force.
Fact 2) There is some intrigue going on with Danica. Xanthe claims that he has a personal relationship with her which come in contrast with her behavior towards him while under Klaus payroll.
Fact 3) Xanthe seems to get help from Nico, but again he doesn't send her to grab the case.
Fact 4) The monster was alive when everyone thought it was dead.

Xanthe wanting it shouldn't be an important point. It's supposed to be a monster corpse that he can use to create more superhumans, do research etc. The interesting part is that he doesn't have any support from superhumans. That doesn't necessarily mean that HERO don't care but we know that they are worked to the bone. We also know that they rely on Deus to plan their operations.

Danica having a personal relationship with him could mean that he wanted her undercover for some purpose. That reason probably isn't to "steal" the thing. After all he seems willing to pay Klaus and if he wanted to avoid the payment he could wait till the last minute and backstab him. I think that Danica is there to find out about whoever gave the monster to the casino.

The reason why Xanthe gets help from Nico can be very simple. She is the most efficient HERO agent, so she probably is the only one who can help him. She probably has an ulterior motive too, and that's the evolution serum. The interesting part is that Nico doesn't just grab the cannister. So she either can't (perhaps because the monster is kin), or Xanthe suspects whoever sold it has a vested interested in seeing it reaching it's natural destination, while having the means to detect Nico.

The monster being alive can't be accidental. This was a deception, so whoever did it wanted to create some situation. What are the chances that whoever did it couldn't deal with it in case things went really bad? Of course, someone could know about HERO and their ability to deal with them, but

So who could it be:
The way I see it there are two candidates.

1) Unknown faction of researchers/superhumans that we have yet to meet (considering that we get new characters, perhaps there will be some grand reveal?). This thing is well orchestrated and the fact that Nico didn't just "deal" with it the usual way means someone is using his influence. This would also explain Danica's role in this situation along with her personal relationship to Xanthe (being undercover trying to determine who is the orchestrator).

2) Deus. Of all the known characters he is the best candidate IMO.
a) Deus claims to be able to corner Hexenringe. So perhaps he can also deal with Nico's tricks, not allowing her to just deal with the situation.
b) Being a fortune teller, he could tell Xanthe how this thing will play out but he didn't. That's not the best argument, but Deus is ALWAYS suspicious due to this reason.
c) The situation GREATLY benefits the MC. MC ends up evolving and getting one more superhuman ally who ends up becoming his girlfriend.
d) If Deus is good at dealing with the Hexenringe, it stands to reason that he is good against any monster descending from the Sixth. So he was the one who mangled the Fairy in the first place.

I'm generally reluctant to accuse Deus of such things, but this one plays to his strengths. So for now I think that he is the best candidate.

This is just Speculation, but I'll also put out the Shopkeeper as being a possibility for being the benefactor.
He has connections to get rare objects connected to monsters, and a weird agenda of his own.
He also has some planning ability or future sight of his own. He knows the twins are going to need those rings, so he gives them to them ahead of time.
It would also make narrative sense for it to be the shop keeper working behind the scenes to arrange that.

 

[Gtdead]

This is just Speculation, but I'll also put out the Shopkeeper as being a possibility for being the benefactor.
He has connections to get rare objects connected to monsters, and a weird agenda of his own.
He also has some planning ability or future sight of his own. He knows the twins are going to need those rings, so he gives them to them ahead of time.
It would also make narrative sense for it to be the shop keeper working behind the scenes to arrange that.

Interesting viewpoint. He iis known to trade an extremely valuable item for something of seemingly no value.

His MO is a bit all over the place though, he is a tough nut to crack. If there was just the smallest indication that he was involved, either through an intermediary or through some chance to apply his influence, I'd easily subscribe to the idea. I'll keep him in mind for now.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

This is just Speculation, but I'll also put out the Shopkeeper as being a possibility for being the benefactor.
He has connections to get rare objects connected to monsters, and a weird agenda of his own.
He also has some planning ability or future sight of his own. He knows the twins are going to need those rings, so he gives them to them ahead of time.
It would also make narrative sense for it to be the shop keeper working behind the scenes to arrange that.

Bro I didn't even CONSIDER the Shopkeeper! That fucker trades rare monster affiliated shit like candy. He's arguably the ONLY guy that would donate something for free. Perhaps he stumbled on the fairy when it was injured and decided to spice things up in the Superhuman world by giving it to the criminal underworld.

 

[ItzSyther]

Bro I didn't even CONSIDER the Shopkeeper! That fucker trades rare monster affiliated shit like candy. He's arguably the ONLY guy that would donate something for free. Perhaps he stumbled on the fairy when it was injured and decided to spice things up in the Superhuman world by giving it to the criminal underworld.

I wonder if it was him tho who did give it to the criminal underworld.

Fairy's appearance when we last saw em was well fucked. Not just anyone could make him or others like him in such a state. I always thought Xanthe could of had something to do with it due to his partnership with Klaus and his family.

Mind you during the poker game no matter who won Klaus was going to get it/steal it (assuming the MC/Alice wasn't there) he could of just stole it from whatever poor sap won the game.

Other than shopkeep or Xanthe I cant imagine anyone else being strong enough or having people close who are strong capable of getting fairy in his state/situation of being sold.

Although maybe Ella is a possibility.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

I wonder if it was him tho who did give it to the criminal underworld.

Fairy's appearance when we last saw em was well fucked. Not just anyone could make him or others like him in such a state. I always thought Xanthe could of had something to do with it due to his partnership with Klaus and his family.

Mind you during the poker game no matter who won Klaus was going to get it/steal it (assuming the MC/Alice wasn't there) he could of just stole it from whatever poor sap won the game.

Other than shopkeep or Xanthe I cant imagine anyone else being strong enough or having people close who are strong capable of getting fairy in his state/situation of being sold.

Although maybe Ella is a possibility.

Well that's actually why I thought it was:
- H.E.R.O who injured it.
-It got away or they thought it wouldn't survive it's injuries.
-Xanthe still wanted it's corpse but as we know based on The Battle Of Diamonds decision; killing the monster is a better option than capture.
-This may be backed up by the fact that it can make black holes on fucking command, and while they DO have Deus to DETECT it beforehand, they don't have Zack to clean it up.
-So Xanthe goes against his co workers backs, as quoted by Klaus, and sends them to retrieve it upon hearing whispers FROM them.

Or Ella injured it like you said

 

[ItzSyther]

Well that's actually why I thought it was:
- H.E.R.O who injured it.
-It got away or they thought it wouldn't survive it's injuries.
-Xanthe still wanted it's corpse but as we know based on The Battle Of Diamonds decision; killing the monster is a better option than capture.
-This may be backed up by the fact that it can make black holes on fucking command, and while they DO have Deus to DETECT it beforehand, they don't have Zack to clean it up.
-So Xanthe goes against his co workers backs, as quoted by Klaus, and sends them to retrieve it upon hearing whispers FROM them.

Or Ella injured it like you said

I have considered one last possibility:
Unknown third party

Honestly I have a hard time believing there's only HERO and SIN (the world's a big place ya know, people conspiring for power and all that sounds like something that the world of superhuman has going on often enough be it through politics, crime, or powers).

MC was independent for a bit and I can imagine despite all the publicity/recruitment stuff from HERO/SIN there still are independent peoples out there.

We also have to note MC and Co wouldn't have been found as fast as they were if it wasn't for Del (who knows how long the MC and crew would of been independent for if it wasn't for him).

Could there be a third party fucking around out there and somehow capable of giving fairy the deep dickings? Potentially but Weird has set things up where its basically a big ass clash between HERO and SIN and constant fighting between em but it'd be a wild curveball to have a third party roll in as the fire is still going.

Also back to that poker game...I wonder if anyone else at that table would come back later. If I recall only the rich and powerful show up to that right? I doubt they had anything to do with Fairy but maybe they are up to something as well?

 

[necromater]

I had a revelation. Maybe our bald fuck of a father was member of the other Group who wanted to cure the pre human monsters maybe they had MC mom there shit went down like spy movie down with a Saw like plot Twist. The clues are there. the clínic, Dexter knows our dad, the game kind of tell us that mom went monster. Now Alice dad drops the bomb of the monster P.E.T.A and Bramon Having a kid fuck thats another movie right there. But first i want to see. The bald,the fedora and the fairy XD

 

[SSJSonGoku]

The game hints at pregnancy a lot, then we are told that superhumans can't have kids with humans and other superhumans, but only with monsters.
BUT if you pay attention, at Tiffany's wedding, Dexter hints at the possibility of Tiffany having children despite being superhuman.
MC: "But... Tiffany can't have children now, can she?"
Dexter:"Heh, who can say?"

 

[ItzSyther]

The game hints at pregnancy a lot, then we are told that superhumans can't have kids with humans and other superhumans, but only with monsters.
BUT if you pay attention, at Tiffany's wedding, Dexter hints at the possibility of Tiffany having children despite being superhuman.
MC: "But... Tiffany can't have children now, can she?"
Dexter:"Heh, who can say?"

I mean there are other ways a person can have children other than the tried and true natural way (such as adoption although I doubt Dexter would allow such a thing to happen, who knows tho).

Hell, there might be a possibility (albeit small) Dexter had Tiffany store some of her eggs prior to becoming superhuman (he could of just had Xanthe take some without her knowing while doing whatever he did to her for powers) or a more...holy fuck idea that Dexter has potentially cloned his daughter(s) so a set of powered ones and a set of human ones.

That's at least the method(s) I thought of when ponderin what ye said.

In the event of his children's deaths I feel like Dexter is the type of dude to plan out contingency plans since his family's fortune would lack an heir of any kind. Cloning, adoption, or just regular ol breeding (if he can even have more children? I don't think he has powers just his weird ass thanos glove which Klaus's dad also has if I recall right).

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Yeah, Dexter wasn't hinting pregnancy there. He most likely stored her eggs and other things for the future, like ItzSyther suggested. I'm not sure if it's for cloning specifically but that could've been his backup plan if she failed at becoming a superhuman. With the new inclusion of Deryl, cloning might be much easier too.

In fact, this topic just reminded me that I had a theory that Deryl could be used to make children for the MC and his women. It would be a lot of trial and error but he might can make children for them if he gets both of their DNA and created a fully fertilized egg. Would probably require him to reach Level 4 equivalent for it to happen though.

I might've already posted about it or never got around to it but that's likely what Xanthe intended to use Monster Deryl for. To help engineer a breeding process for HERO Agents. If I remember my thought process right, I recall Xanthe being interested in Monster Deryl for the fact that he could mix and make different monsters, creating entirely new species. Which would be invaluable, if Xanthe was thinking of a method of progressing Superhumans as a species.

It was one of my cope theories I came up with after fucking Lexi and being depressed that he didn't creampie her there. From two updates ago. It might've got lost in all the theory stuff and Monster Booty hype.

 

[xhib]

I was trying hard to decrypt Alice's power. Gravity is cool, but is it "explosion" cool? Aside from collapsed stars, I don't know of any other interaction that creates explosions. This is how I think they work:

1) The fist orbs create gravitational effects. Since she is on earth and earth has air, the fists instantly suck the air and create a veil around them.
Whenever Alice punches something, the gravitational effect is momentarily halted and the air is unleashed with huge potential, turning into kinetic energy and blasting whatever is in proximity.

This explains a lot of things. The fact that gravity creates explosions for one, but also why she doesn't feel the same recoil as her targets do.
It also explains the Graviton Impact attack (which is more like.. air impact),

2) The same principle applies to her ranged attacks too. She creates an orb that is fairly unstable. The orb sucks the air creating a potential bomb, and on impact it breaks, the gravitational effect ceases and caboom.

3) Her orbs have a spin, similar to all celestial bodies. This explains why MC feels a shockwave when he touches the orbs and not a simple gravitational attraction. Perhaps if she were to use her powers in a vacuum, it would look very different.

4) In a similar vein, her "passive" barrier is her attracting the air around her and creating a veil that protects her.

I think with these assumptions we can explain the behavior of lightning and Klaus' beams but I don't remember the scenes exactly, perhaps there is something that I've missed.

I went back through the Fairy's debut, Alice's fights, Klaus and Xanthe's dialogue. I'd missed some interesting stuff. Things that just didn't seem relevant the first time I read them. Summary for that.

Spoiler: Alice and the Fairy's Power

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Air explains the shockwaves and "pure force" that Alice uses pretty neatly, but there's definitely more to it than that. Gravity doesn't really explain whatever Alice did to the Thug-Leigong's lightning bolts or how she's blocking plasma. I have a theory, but it admittedly sounds ridiculous.

The glowing blue barrier of her orb is a "magnetosphere" which is how she shields herself from Klaus' plasma and the new-born Leigong's lightning. Next up, the process you described: air is drawn through the barrier, compressed into a pressurized "atmosphere" and given greater weight all through gravity. She can tweak each step of this process to create her various attacks. It's like a microcosm of geophysics.

Maybe Alice is simulating celestial bodies and the forces they generate with her spheres?

It does a fairly good job of explaining her arsenal and more. The pseudo-singularity the Fairy created, the gravitational waves Alice emits, the gravitational pull she exerts on Deryl's Scythe-Chimera, her miniature magnetospheres/atmospheres and their orbit. It still sounds completely crazy, but it fits surprisingly well.

Spoiler: The dimension breaker

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They didn't really bust Hex's barrier, they tore the "dimensional fabric."

The moment I reread the part about Alice and gravitational waves, the gears in my head started to grind. I don't think the strength of Alice's attack was as important as the strength of the wave it generated. Like breaking glass with sound; Alice has the right frequency, Clark provided the energy and Nico focused it.

I'm pretty happy with this as an explanation. Alice is the key and force isn't the answer.

Spoiler: Ongoing Debate on the Limit Break Pt 1/2

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That's like 2.5 out of 7 topics in your post. Not to mention Mixed Ancestries.
To be continued...

 

[TerminusPrime]

I went back through the Fairy's debut, Alice's fights, Klaus and Xanthe's dialogue. I'd missed some interesting stuff. Things that just didn't seem relevant the first time I read them. Summary for that.

Spoiler: Alice and the Fairy's Power

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Air explains the shockwaves and "pure force" that Alice uses pretty neatly, but there's definitely more to it than that. Gravity doesn't really explain whatever Alice did to the Thug-Leigong's lightning bolts or how she's blocking plasma. I have a theory, but it admittedly sounds ridiculous.

The glowing blue barrier of her orb is a "magnetosphere" which is how she shields herself from Klaus' plasma and the new-born Leigong's lightning. Next up, the process you described: air is drawn through the barrier, compressed into a pressurized "atmosphere" and given greater weight all through gravity. She can tweak each step of this process to create her various attacks. It's like a microcosm of geophysics.

Maybe Alice is simulating celestial bodies and the forces they generate with her spheres?

It does a fairly good job of explaining her arsenal and more. The pseudo-singularity the Fairy created, the gravitational waves Alice emits, the gravitational pull she exerts on Deryl's Scythe-Chimera, her miniature magnetospheres/atmospheres and their orbit. It still sounds completely crazy, but it fits surprisingly well.


They didn't really bust Hex's barrier, they tore the "dimensional fabric."

The moment I reread the part about Alice and gravitational waves, the gears in my head started to grind. I don't think the strength of Alice's attack was as important as the strength of the wave it generated. Like breaking glass with sound; Alice has the right frequency, Clark provided the energy and Nico focused it.

I'm pretty happy with this as an explanation. Alice is the key and force isn't the answer.

Spoiler: Ongoing Debate on the Limit Break Pt 1/2

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That's like 2.5 out of 7 topics in your post. Not to mention Mixed Ancestries.
To be continued...

Which Dead End is 16, and how do you get to it? I've missed most of the dead ends toward the middle of the game and further along.

 

[xhib]

Which Dead End is 16, and how do you get to it? I've missed most of the dead ends toward the middle of the game and further along.

The Minyak fight. Pick speed.

 

[SSJSonGoku]

Yeah, Dexter wasn't hinting pregnancy there. He most likely stored her eggs and other things for the future, like ItzSyther suggested. I'm not sure if it's for cloning specifically but that could've been his backup plan if she failed at becoming a superhuman. With the new inclusion of Deryl, cloning might be much easier too.

In fact, this topic just reminded me that I had a theory that Deryl could be used to make children for the MC and his women. It would be a lot of trial and error but he might can make children for them if he gets both of their DNA and created a fully fertilized egg. Would probably require him to reach Level 4 equivalent for it to happen though.

I might've already posted about it or never got around to it but that's likely what Xanthe intended to use Monster Deryl for. To help engineer a breeding process for HERO Agents. If I remember my thought process right, I recall Xanthe being interested in Monster Deryl for the fact that he could mix and make different monsters, creating entirely new species. Which would be invaluable, if Xanthe was thinking of a method of progressing Superhumans as a species.

It was one of my cope theories I came up with after fucking Lexi and being depressed that he didn't creampie her there. From two updates ago. It might've got lost in all the theory stuff and Monster Booty hype.

While I do agree that Dexter is the type to store the eggs and stuff, I get the feeling he was hinting at a different process, possibly not finalized yet.