Gtdead

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I was interested until you called trap a weird fetish, as if being gay and/or traps are weird and you made it part of the game yourself? Weird.
Disregarding the fact that trap content has nothing to do with gay and I don't even understand why anyone would put those two together (one is about clearly defined same sex relationships while the other is about challenging the actor's sexuality), the game is predominantly a male power fantasy. The protagonist is introduced to us as straight and the main purpose of the game is for the protagonist to increase his power and fuck all the girls. Additionally the protagonist has a dominant personality. He doesn't take shit from anyone, only submits when the other person forces him through superior strength or trickery.

Any content which challenges these assumptions is supposed to be dissonant for the target audience. Ntr challenges his dominance, trap challenges his straight sexuality, genderbender challenges his gender identity or his sexuality depending on the scene. So yes, all these are weird.
 
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Alandir

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I remember in the last update, hou can only save the ice dagger girl if you don't go the way of the monster that wants to breed. Anyone know if that was a bug or if it was intentional?
 

Gtdead

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We can only hope that we will encounter Aglaecwif again in the future and fuck her even harder. Making us choose was fucking criminal I say.
 

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First three are pretty concise. Last topic...not so much.

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alkeera

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Fuck you W.W
Making us choose between. Hot monster sex , saving laurie or using the game console to make a Deus. That Deryl mock us if we let him go left doesn't help T-T
If you are corrupted enough, you can use the secret immoral superpower of editing variables and do both.
 
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necromater

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If you are corrupted enough, you can use the secret immoral superpower of editing variables and do both.
Of course i did. i'm a horny bastard like everyone here but also a softcake laurie deserves better. Fucking Jared you deserve perpetual agony.
 
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Never said a thing on this forum but, I have been playing this game for about a year or so I believe, and its unironically the best novel I have read in my entire life, down to the simplest of ideas to the most complex and degenerate ones.

I do have to ask since I feel like I have missed a lot, how does the routing so far affect the overall of the story, I am avid safe scummer and mousescroll a few pages back every choice just to see how different is the dialogue, but I have never seen an entire picture of if there is or isnt something in relation to how you choose things and what you do... (I say cuz the a/n update text threw me a wrench about doing the Deryl fight perfectly and getting a reward at the end).

Is there any significant difference to whether you do or don't choose an option? Cuz most of the time I see the illusion of choice or the coin flip between a dead end and game progress. Do some options block or not portions of the story (I noticed that in this update, the choose your lore drop options where final and in a normal ideal playthrough you'd only see one of but not all options), so I ask, is there really an appropiate or like idk, super fucking amazing thing I'm missing or is it really how I am seeing it, just a linear game with illusory choice and coin flips?
 

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Never said a thing on this forum but, I have been playing this game for about a year or so I believe, and its unironically the best novel I have read in my entire life, down to the simplest of ideas to the most complex and degenerate ones.

I do have to ask since I feel like I have missed a lot, how does the routing so far affect the overall of the story, I am avid safe scummer and mousescroll a few pages back every choice just to see how different is the dialogue, but I have never seen an entire picture of if there is or isnt something in relation to how you choose things and what you do... (I say cuz the a/n update text threw me a wrench about doing the Deryl fight perfectly and getting a reward at the end).

Is there any significant difference to whether you do or don't choose an option? Cuz most of the time I see the illusion of choice or the coin flip between a dead end and game progress. Do some options block or not portions of the story (I noticed that in this update, the choose your lore drop options where final and in a normal ideal playthrough you'd only see one of but not all options), so I ask, is there really an appropiate or like idk, super fucking amazing thing I'm missing or is it really how I am seeing it, just a linear game with illusory choice and coin flips?
The very short and fast answer is yes, there's a difference. If you go to Aglaecwif, Laurie dies permanently. If you get a perfect "score" with Deryl, she lives.
 

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Never said a thing on this forum but, I have been playing this game for about a year or so I believe, and its unironically the best novel I have read in my entire life, down to the simplest of ideas to the most complex and degenerate ones.

I do have to ask since I feel like I have missed a lot, how does the routing so far affect the overall of the story, I am avid safe scummer and mousescroll a few pages back every choice just to see how different is the dialogue, but I have never seen an entire picture of if there is or isnt something in relation to how you choose things and what you do... (I say cuz the a/n update text threw me a wrench about doing the Deryl fight perfectly and getting a reward at the end).

Is there any significant difference to whether you do or don't choose an option? Cuz most of the time I see the illusion of choice or the coin flip between a dead end and game progress. Do some options block or not portions of the story (I noticed that in this update, the choose your lore drop options where final and in a normal ideal playthrough you'd only see one of but not all options), so I ask, is there really an appropiate or like idk, super fucking amazing thing I'm missing or is it really how I am seeing it, just a linear game with illusory choice and coin flips?
I think the "reward" WW said means Laurie surviving, you need a perfect score against Deryl to save her, in terms of changes on the story because of your choices the main ones are between a Power or Skill playthrough, the overral story doesn't change much but some people die for example.
 
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Also what about the helmet stuff, does anyone know if there is yet any clear difference whether or not theres any notable differences with or without it?
 

Ddlc

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If Demi knew what her target saw, then we could easily say that she made the target think that. But since this is obviously wrong, her trick is an actual visual illusion. Illusions are tricks of light so here's the connection to 8th (assuming ofcourse that 8th is light).
I'm not sure if we can assume Demi's illusions work like that, she explains that every person sees something different, so if they are changing the light emmited by an object in a way to make it look like something (a remote control to look like a bar of gold) then the same light would reach every person looking at it, thus everyone would see the same thing.
But from what we know it's not like that, it seems that instead of making an illusion by manipulating the light emmited by an object they change how a person interprets what reaches their senses, thus affecting the brain of the person directly. It that's the case then Demi's powers affect the mind and not light itself.
 

Ddlc

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Also what about the helmet stuff, does anyone know if there is yet any clear difference whether or not theres any notable differences with or without it?
If you are not useing the helmet you gain 5 corruption or so during Deryl's fight, kind nasty if you are making a low corruption play.
 
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Also Idk if anyone has pointed it out yet or if I missed something or im going schizo, but (and I mean this with absolute ignorance to the entire forum so far because I'm new here):
What do you guys think of the idea that Charlie could be the MC doing some time travel shit that we could/might see in the future/endgame of the story? I mean, I have my suspicions about the usage of conceptual time powers in a linear story considering some powers and abilties are becoming more open to novella roleplay what-if's with concept powers, but the sum of everything in my head so far leads to the idea that at some point an apostoles power of time is used and MC goes back in time the moment he dissappears with Ella (I assume we will see in the future seeing as to how everything MC does happens to be in line with Ella's plan, regardless of our player choices unless a deadend) as hinted in her note to the Goth Club and her memories from the dirty clothes.

And while I'm off the pills, what if charlie is the MC or the future MC learning a new superpower like order <since her power is very convienient in regards to order> (order being regarded as the strongest power of all by Aglaecwif) and is in a relearning journey to figure out Ella's masterful fucked up plan that will somehow end them up both together in this super revival plot. I mean Ella was cooking a ritual using a monster heart of sorts, and the MC's Evolution speech had him talk to an Origin (his eye shit), and tbf I have an inkling/suspicion that Ella is on that same path except she's been set on it for a long time while MC is learning overall about this whole mess to begin with, (and considering Ella was excited to meet MC before even meeting him due to him being like her, its safe to assume that theres a much deeper crazy schizophrenic plot going on that could involved an apostoles time power bullshit or at least related to the same origin mess the MC is being asked to do) and it feels like to me that W.W. is going a very interesting route with everything and if I'm right (by like 0.1% right is my expectation of being right).
 

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Also Idk if anyone has pointed it out yet or if I missed something or im going schizo, but (and I mean this with absolute ignorance to the entire forum so far because I'm new here):
What do you guys think of the idea that Charlie could be the MC doing some time travel shit that we could/might see in the future/endgame of the story? I mean, I have my suspicions about the usage of conceptual time powers in a linear story considering some powers and abilties are becoming more open to novella roleplay what-if's with concept powers, but the sum of everything in my head so far leads to the idea that at some point an apostoles power of time is used and MC goes back in time the moment he dissappears with Ella (I assume we will see in the future seeing as to how everything MC does happens to be in line with Ella's plan, regardless of our player choices unless a deadend) as hinted in her note to the Goth Club and her memories from the dirty clothes.

And while I'm off the pills, what if charlie is the MC or the future MC learning a new superpower like order <since her power is very convienient in regards to order> (order being regarded as the strongest power of all by Aglaecwif) and is in a relearning journey to figure out Ella's masterful fucked up plan that will somehow end them up both together in this super revival plot. I mean Ella was cooking a ritual using a monster heart of sorts, and the MC's Evolution speech had him talk to an Origin (his eye shit), and tbf I have an inkling/suspicion that Ella is on that same path except she's been set on it for a long time while MC is learning overall about this whole mess to begin with, (and considering Ella was excited to meet MC before even meeting him due to him being like her, its safe to assume that theres a much deeper crazy schizophrenic plot going on that could involved an apostoles time power bullshit or at least related to the same origin mess the MC is being asked to do) and it feels like to me that W.W. is going a very interesting route with everything and if I'm right (by like 0.1% right is my expectation of being right).
I don't think MC is going to get the power to copy powers. that's that peak isekai BS godmodding.

Also, Charlie hasn't really shown Order. Maybe Authority? But Order is the combination of Authority and Power specifically. She hasn't done anything Jake can't do, nor has she done anything Michael can do.
 
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mcmng

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Never said a thing on this forum but, I have been playing this game for about a year or so I believe, and its unironically the best novel I have read in my entire life, down to the simplest of ideas to the most complex and degenerate ones.

I do have to ask since I feel like I have missed a lot, how does the routing so far affect the overall of the story, I am avid safe scummer and mousescroll a few pages back every choice just to see how different is the dialogue, but I have never seen an entire picture of if there is or isnt something in relation to how you choose things and what you do... (I say cuz the a/n update text threw me a wrench about doing the Deryl fight perfectly and getting a reward at the end).

Is there any significant difference to whether you do or don't choose an option? Cuz most of the time I see the illusion of choice or the coin flip between a dead end and game progress. Do some options block or not portions of the story (I noticed that in this update, the choose your lore drop options where final and in a normal ideal playthrough you'd only see one of but not all options), so I ask, is there really an appropiate or like idk, super fucking amazing thing I'm missing or is it really how I am seeing it, just a linear game with illusory choice and coin flips?
Plotwise? So far it's linear and does have its moments of "illusion of choice" as you said. I mean, you CAN play very different MC's, with the most notable possible difference being corruption, but it doesn't matter (yet at least) in the grander scheme of things, the big fights and plot events still happen regardless of your playstyle. That doesn't mean you can't decide about smaller details in the story. You can choose between sparing or killing many side characters, what to do in certain situations that result in slightly different outcomes like meeting Aglaecwif or saving Laurie in the last update and how good or how bad both the MC's persona and HERO appeal to the public and government, among other things. WW himself does acknowledge this in this one interaction with the arbiter:
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Now, with that said, here's hoping WW does implement different endings down the line. The way things are shaping up, he problably will.
 
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