VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Gtdead]

Semantic control over shadows is very interesting and yeah very conceptual. FYI, I was not the one arguing against the conceptual stuff. It's Gtdead who wants a scientific basis. I'm fine either way as long as it's consistent.

Oh come on mister magnetosphere. You are worse than me. My argument was "air goes boom".
But what can I say, I'm curious and there are breadcrumbs everywhere.

Anyway, a primer on our future discussions:

Scientific stuff:
Dark Matter
Light Absorbsion
Vacuum / Lack of medium / Cold
Blackbody Radiation (wtf?)

Conceptual stuff:
Infinite dark expanse.
Sleep / Dreams
Negative emotions
Absence of vision and knowledge.
Nothing

And what the fuck is going on with these shadow tendrils? I need answers.

 

[necromater]

Oh come on mister magnetosphere. You are worse than me. My argument was "air goes boom".
But what can I say, I'm curious and there are breadcrumbs everywhere.

Anyway, a primer on our future discussions:

Scientific stuff:
Dark Matter
Light Absorbsion
Vacuum / Lack of medium / Cold
Blackbody Radiation (wtf?)

Conceptual stuff:
Infinite dark expanse.
Sleep / Dreams
Negative emotions
Absence of vision and knowledge.
Nothing

And what the fuck is going on with these shadow tendrils? I need answers.

Don't know. Maybe Aliens ? XD. Energy based lifeforms? Supercells? Extraplanar beings? Eldritch cunts? Old gods? All of them at the same time in a perpetual war for conquest of new universes ?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Oh yeah, while it's on my mind currently. I should finally give my stats from this update. I forgot to do it a week ago.

Main/Darkness(The 4th) -

Power: 310
Skill: 29
Corruption: 32
Laurie: Alive

Public: 675
Government: 145


Zero Corruption/Dark Night(The 4th) -

Power: 304
Skill: 30
Corruption: 0
Laurie: Alive

Public: 770
Government: 180


Corruption Main/Darkness(Mommy 4th) -

Power: 315
Skill: 26
Corruption: 37
Laurie: Dead

Public: 535
Government: 145


Murderhobo/Night(The 3rd) -

Power: 315
Skill: 26
Corruption: 40
Laurie: Dead

Public: -55
Government: -225

That's my stats on my 4 playthroughs currently. I might have to redo the Murderhobo. As for the individual stats, I believe the current max you can get for Corruption is 40, Skill is 30, and Power is 315. Not sure if my public is the highest you can get but 770 is the max that I got for it. I know my government is not since I recall losing some. I don't use the walkthrough at all so I'm not sure how optimal I am for my stats. For the 3 main stats, that should be correct. Unless I missed Power or Corruption somewhere.

 

[xhib]

Oh come on mister magnetosphere. You are worse than me. My argument was "air goes boom".
But what can I say, I'm curious and there are breadcrumbs everywhere.

Anyway, a primer on our future discussions:

Scientific stuff:
Dark Matter
Light Absorbsion
Vacuum / Lack of medium / Cold
Blackbody Radiation (wtf?)

Conceptual stuff:
Infinite dark expanse.
Sleep / Dreams
Negative emotions
Absence of vision and knowledge.
Nothing

And what the fuck is going on with these shadow tendrils? I need answers.

Oh yeah, my "glowy spheres do planet stuff" theory was super hard science! I'm happy trying to figure out if there is a scientific basis to an ability, but it wasn't me asking if superhumans could really break the laws of the universe, was it? Why did I have to watch "

You must be registered to see the links

" again? Because you were caught between accepting Alice had magnetic abilities or gravity directly repelling something. Fun while it lasted...

Causality will come up at some point.

Tendrils aren't the only weird part. The MC's Level 3 Heavy Armour used memories obtained from Valravn after his miasma was exhausted. If Valravn's weapons and armour are made from shadows...?

 

[necromater]

well if you read the helltaker comics beel makes a lot of things out of the
abyss fabric if you know what i mean.

 

[Gtdead]

Oh yeah, my "glowy spheres do planet stuff" theory was super hard science! I'm happy trying to figure out if there is a scientific basis to an ability, but it wasn't me asking if superhumans could really break the laws of the universe, was it? Why did I have to watch "

You must be registered to see the links

" again? Because you were caught between accepting Alice had magnetic abilities or gravity directly repelling something. Fun while it lasted...

Causality will come up at some point.

Tendrils aren't the only weird part. The MC's Level 3 Heavy Armour used memories obtained from Valravn after his miasma was exhausted. If Valravn's weapons and armour are made from shadows...?

We are both innocent then ^_^

There exists some possibility that Valravn's equipment could be some artifact, irrelevant to his powers, and MC got the memories directly from interacting with the material. It's thin, since Valravn seems to have an advanced interaction with the suit of armor, assuming a shadow form.

But the way the line is delivered allows it.

You "Then I have my heavy armor, which seems to be constructed based on the memories I obtained fighting Valravn, after I wore down his miasma."

If he had said "from Valravn", I wouldn't even consider it, but many things could happen while "fighting Valravn". However I'm not going to put much stock to this theory, at least for now. I have a couple others but I want to cross reference with the Scythe and see what I will come up with.

I draw a blank when I try to think about the tendrils though.

 

[TerminusPrime]

Oh yeah, my "glowy spheres do planet stuff" theory was super hard science! I'm happy trying to figure out if there is a scientific basis to an ability, but it wasn't me asking if superhumans could really break the laws of the universe, was it? Why did I have to watch "

You must be registered to see the links

" again? Because you were caught between accepting Alice had magnetic abilities or gravity directly repelling something. Fun while it lasted...

Causality will come up at some point.

Tendrils aren't the only weird part. The MC's Level 3 Heavy Armour used memories obtained from Valravn after his miasma was exhausted. If Valravn's weapons and armour are made from shadows...?

If Ella's shapeshifting power can be used to warp reality around her, without any sort of gravitational ability, then I don't see why the MC can't shapeshift shadows around him.
The more interesting part is that the MC can do it at level 3.

 

[Gtdead]

If Ella's shapeshifting power can be used to warp reality around her, without any sort of gravitational ability, then I don't see why the MC can't shapeshift shadows around him.
The more interesting part is that the MC can do it at level 3.

Ella's aura is an interesting phenomenon. The way it's narrated, it sounds to me like terraforming along with an extended application of her "frozen form" ability. It's easily explained through her powers without any gravitational or magnetic effect. She acts on her surroudings but she doesn't seem to be the focus of the effect. For example, the stone cracks and warps. It's not pulled or moved.

"Earth and stone crack and warp as Ella's aura spreads. She makes no specific action; it's almost as though just being in her immediate proximity is enough to transform the environment."
"Jake scrambles back, crawling across the ground, his legs unresponsive, his body melting and warping with the ground beneath him."
"The metal interior, the deathly sharp spikes, warp and bend the closer they come to Ella's form, molding around her as the doors close shut, but never touching her."

MC also has an aura but it doesn't seem to have any interesting effect. Shapeshifting shadows wouldn't make much sense to me because it's not matter. Are you referring to his armor or some other effect? Perhaps I missed something.

 

[TerminusPrime]

Ella's aura is an interesting phenomenon. The way it's narrated, it sounds to me like terraforming along with an extended application of her "frozen form" ability. It's easily explained through her powers without any gravitational or magnetic effect. She acts on her surroudings but she doesn't seem to be the focus of the effect. For example, the stone cracks and warps. It's not pulled or moved.


MC also has an aura but it doesn't seem to have any interesting effect. Shapeshifting shadows wouldn't make much sense to me because it's not matter. Are you referring to his armor or some other effect? Perhaps I missed something.

I'm replying that if shapeshifting can change reality around Ella, can warp the ground and Jake's body, then the MC using shapeshifting to warp and solidify shadow into a facsimile of solid matter doesn't seem so strange.
Ella and the MC's power doesn't really seem to follow physical laws very well. Even being able to grow creates matter out of nothing, and shrinking destroys matter, but without actually annihilating it or converting it to energy.
It can't just be the MC converting power to energy and energy to matter, because he would reclaim some of that energy when shrinking, but it also costs him power to shrink smaller than his normal size.

 

[Dominosaur]

I don't think so. Ella and MC both have The Body's power. The Body, taken a bit more meta, seems to resolve around "manipulation of physical objects." Generating more of it/'hiding it' through size change, controlling it through personal and external shapeshifting... Ella simply has the power she's always had, and is able to exercise it at a range. As an AoE. She's not "changing reality" or anything so fancy. She's just Shapeshifting. Like she did to the crazy homeless man who attacked her kids. MC can't control shadows, for the same reason he can't mind control people, or turn into photons to move at the speed of light. It's outside his wheelhouse. Shadows do not have a "Body" for him to transform. Either they're magical energy (in universe) or they're "the absence of light" which...If anything doesn't have a body, it would have to be "Nothingness" right?

 

[Jazzyman87]

is there any ntr for Alice? cause from seen mad others speaking too her and shit

 

[Dominosaur]

just noticed the game had the DILF tag. And I agree, there are many dads I'd like to fuck, but I wonder who Weird had in mind for that. Like, I know who he was thinking of for Trap, and Futa...But who's the DILF? Malik? Bernhard?

 

[ItzSyther]

is there any ntr for Alice? cause from seen mad others speaking too her and shit

As far as I'm aware nope. NTR Liz only.

Idk if the midspawn lovers would like it if their lady started gettin railed by everyone lol.

 

[ItzSyther]

just noticed the game had the DILF tag. And I agree, there are many dads I'd like to fuck, but I wonder who Weird had in mind for that. Like, I know who he was thinking of for Trap, and Futa...But who's the DILF? Malik? Bernhard?

Obviously Alice's dad. Bro is fuckin noiceeeee.

 

[Gtdead]

I'm replying that if shapeshifting can change reality around Ella, can warp the ground and Jake's body, then the MC using shapeshifting to warp and solidify shadow into a facsimile of solid matter doesn't seem so strange.
Ella and the MC's power doesn't really seem to follow physical laws very well. Even being able to grow creates matter out of nothing, and shrinking destroys matter, but without actually annihilating it or converting it to energy.
It can't just be the MC converting power to energy and energy to matter, because he would reclaim some of that energy when shrinking, but it also costs him power to shrink smaller than his normal size.

For the shadow thing I don't think that it's possible for MC to even interact with shadows, since I think that Ella's aura can be explained very well through her abilities.

But for the other 2, I have theories!

Spoiler: Energy to mass conversion

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Spoiler: Vanishing Matter

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

 

[Gtdead]

As far as I'm aware nope. NTR Liz only.

Idk if the midspawn lovers would like it if their lady started gettin railed by everyone lol.

There are only 2 absolute truths in the game.
1) MC will be infected.
2) Klaus will be punched when kissing Alice.

Everything else can be ignored, lead to a deadend, or there is a choice involved.

 

[xhib]

We are both innocent then ^_^

There exists some possibility that Valravn's equipment could be some artifact, irrelevant to his powers, and MC got the memories directly from interacting with the material. It's thin, since Valravn seems to have an advanced interaction with the suit of armor, assuming a shadow form.

But the way the line is delivered allows it.

If he had said "from Valravn", I wouldn't even consider it, but many things could happen while "fighting Valravn". However I'm not going to put much stock to this theory, at least for now. I have a couple others but I want to cross reference with the Scythe and see what I will come up with.

I draw a blank when I try to think about the tendrils though.

So, I thought about this a bit and I think I can make sense of the MC's Valravn-derived armour within the previously established rules. No shadow powers for the MC required.

When Valravn's original body started taking damage against the military, he dons his armour. Hollow save for his heart, I wondered what happened to his bird form? Then I remember the term Ella used for Valravn in the park: "shadow beast". His armour isn't something Valravn made of shadows, it's made of the shadow beast Valravn.

Spoiler: In Valravn's Own Words

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

That explains why breaking the armour weakened Valravn, how he reverted after he was captured and how the MC copied him. The MC has only ever needed one touch to steal a human or an animal's form. When the MC copies an inorganic material, he needs to absorb it. The miasma and the need to reach Level 3 to decrypt Valravn's memories complicated things a little, but it still seems like the former not the latter.

As long as it's physiological or a material, the MC should be able to copy the end-result regardless of who or what it was manufactured from. Higher forms are no exception.

Edit: spelling and grammar.

 

[necromater]

is there any ntr for Alice? cause from seen mad others speaking too her and shit

Liz ntr is all you get. rapist klaus death and poison simp is next on the list.

 

[amorousa]

Man the prison arc is fucking terrible

 

[EienYagami]

Since the big brain gamers of this threads have stopped talking for a bit I'll ask this

Who's power ( hero/villain/anime doesn't matter ) would suite MC's shape shifting? I'd like to hear you're thoughts just because.

I'd personally say Ben 10 like imagine him having access to unlimited aliens, scanning new ones and then just transforming into them to study them and make new abilities from said aliens. It'd be cool