RogueEagle

Member
Jul 28, 2017
418
397
Wouldn't surprise me if the MC is actually half monster before hes a Superhuman, dude on his second evolution goes from struggling to not even sweating against a dude that even a lvl 3 would have trouble against, on his Third he goes from struggling against a colossal enemy to becoming a literal indestructible colossal harpoon gun to one shot said colossal enemy.

On his Fourth evolution he might as well be the final boss.

I just don't understand why the scientist acts like the MC took one Evolution inducing injection when the MC really didn't, all his evolutions were natural induced by battle, so the scientist guy saying he can't have 2 shots because he already had one is really sus...
 

Ddlc

Member
Jun 22, 2017
388
1,499
Wasn't there something said about the crossbreeding not working though ? I don't have exact memory of that point, I know Superhumans are sterile but I don't remember it being mentioned that monsters could breed with humans... but I'm not exactly sure of my memory of the opposite either...
I remember someone here giving the best explanation i ever saw about it, the person said that every superhuman was like it's own species thanks to the changes in DNA caused by the monster infection, the changes allow the transformation in superhuman and the use of their powers but make their DNA too different from regular humans and other superhumans to reproduce. So it's not like they are sterile but that no one else has a DNA compatible enough to have children. I don't know if it's true but does explain the situation well.

Monsters don't have this problem though, they can reproduce with superhumans, humans and monsters as far as i know.
 
  • Like
Reactions: EndlessNights

Ddlc

Member
Jun 22, 2017
388
1,499
Wouldn't surprise me if the MC is actually half monster before hes a Superhuman, dude on his second evolution goes from struggling to not even sweating against a dude that even a lvl 3 would have trouble against, on his Third he goes from struggling against a colossal enemy to becoming a literal indestructible colossal harpoon gun to one shot said colossal enemy.

On his Fourth evolution he might as well be the final boss.

I just don't understand why the scientist acts like the MC took one Evolution inducing injection when the MC really didn't, all his evolutions were natural induced by battle, so the scientist guy saying he can't have 2 shots because he already had one is really sus...
Xanthe considers that Mc's 3rd evolution was caused by contact with monster material, it happened after Mc was buried under monster Deryl, he explained that the material was like an unrefined form of his serum, so an artificial evolution at least according to him.
 

Lupusnox

Newbie
Jul 26, 2023
40
36
Wouldn't surprise me if the MC is actually half monster before hes a Superhuman, dude on his second evolution goes from struggling to not even sweating against a dude that even a lvl 3 would have trouble against, on his Third he goes from struggling against a colossal enemy to becoming a literal indestructible colossal harpoon gun to one shot said colossal enemy.

On his Fourth evolution he might as well be the final boss.

I just don't understand why the scientist acts like the MC took one Evolution inducing injection when the MC really didn't, all his evolutions were natural induced by battle, so the scientist guy saying he can't have 2 shots because he already had one is really sus...
His third evolution was "artificial" because it was caused through monster material(Blood).
The serum Xanthe gives people to evolve are made with monster materials. Maybe Xanthe thinks that another evolution through monster material would be to dangerous for us?

It seems Ddlc was faster with explaining XD

However we shouldn't take Xanthe's words as divine law he could be wrong about many things.
Ella at least sees evolution through monsters as a natural form of evolution.(Her park scene with us)
 
Last edited:
  • Heart
Reactions: Ddlc

RogueEagle

Member
Jul 28, 2017
418
397
I remember someone here giving the best explanation i ever saw about it, the person said that every superhuman was like it's own species thanks to the changes in DNA caused by the monster infection, the changes allow the transformation in superhuman and the use of their powers but make their DNA too different from regular humans and other superhumans to reproduce. So it's not like they are sterile but that no one else has a DNA compatible enough to have children. I don't know if it's true but does explain the situation well.

Monsters don't have this problem though, they can reproduce with superhumans, humans and monsters as far as i know.
Superhumans are not sterile, Superhumans can only have children with other Superhumans that have the same origin as them(aka same monster that made them), but that is almost impossible to happen for some reason, monsters on the other hand are a different thing, they can reproduce with Superhumans but can't with monsters of different species, thats why you don't see a bunch of S ranks wondering around and only see the more common ones spreading.
 

RogueEagle

Member
Jul 28, 2017
418
397
His third evolution was "artificial" because it was caused through monster material(Blood).
The serum Xanthe gives people to evolve are made with monster materials. Maybe Xanthe thinks that another evolution through monster material would be to dangerous for us?
Oh, now i get why he mentions its dangerous to let monster blood enter Superhuman blood stream.
 

Rutonat

Well-Known Member
Sep 28, 2020
1,784
3,691
Xanthe considers that Mc's 3rd evolution was caused by contact with monster material, it happened after Mc was buried under monster Deryl,
More like when the MC tunneled in Monster-Deryl's body. That's when you get a lot of talk about all the blood and other liquid making it hard for the MC.
 

Ddlc

Member
Jun 22, 2017
388
1,499
His third evolution was "artificial" because it was caused through monster material(Blood).
The serum Xanthe gives people to evolve are made with monster materials. Maybe Xanthe thinks that another evolution through monster material would be to dangerous for us?
I think he explained that you can only evolve artificially twice, so they keep the last use of the serum to the last evolution since it's so hard to almost everyone.
I think most people don't reach their 5th because according to Ella you reach the last evolution when you are ready to acomplish your purpose, my bet is that it means you are ready to be a proper heir to your apostle.
 

ItzSyther

Well-Known Member
Dec 3, 2018
1,739
10,947
I gotta ask, where does Liz sit in everyone's waifu ratings after the flashback?

For me, she literally shot straight to the top. Pretty cool going through all of her scenes with the new found context.
I never cared for Liz...then again I don't care much for any of the main girls (Emily, Alice, Tiffany, Liz/Amber). I'm more a fan of side/minor Waifu kinda guy like Claudia (who's prob gonna be a main girl at some point), Mia, Dommy Mommy Kelsey, and of course Lady Shadow.
 

RogueEagle

Member
Jul 28, 2017
418
397
More like when the MC tunneled in Monster-Deryl's body. That's when you get a lot of talk about all the blood and other liquid making it hard for the MC.
Maybe i thought it was not artificial because the MC talked with the eye thingy even on a artificially induced one, so that might have put me off the track a little.
 

Rutonat

Well-Known Member
Sep 28, 2020
1,784
3,691
I never cared for Liz...then again I don't care much for any of the main girls (Emily, Alice, Tiffany, Liz/Amber). I'm more a fan of side/minor Waifu kinda guy like Claudia (who's prob gonna be a main girl at some point), Mia, Dommy Mommy Kelsey, and of course Lady Shadow.
I'm the greedy bitch. I want them all (explains why I wanted Monster Mommy AND Laurie :KEK:).
 

DrakoGhoul

Engaged Member
Jul 13, 2018
3,316
12,563
Well, here's my current favorites(I'll do it without Monsters):

1. Alexis
2. Nico
3. Danica
4. Alice
5. Nyx
6. Tiffany
7. Ella
8. Emily
9. Laurie
10. Liz and Amber

Basically, the flashback didn't do anything for me with Liz. I neither cared how she treated the MC before nor how it really was from her PoV. Basically nothing changed for me, with her. I like her but I'm not a simp for her.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lupusnox

Ddlc

Member
Jun 22, 2017
388
1,499
More like when the MC tunneled in Monster-Deryl's body. That's when you get a lot of talk about all the blood and other liquid making it hard for the MC.
Good point, but (from what i understood at least) when he was buried under monster Deryl he was completely out of power, thus unable to "purge" the material, when he ate his way through Deryl to reach the red light heads he still had some juice, at the end of the fight though he had basically none.
 

Lupusnox

Newbie
Jul 26, 2023
40
36
I think he explained that you can only evolve artificially twice, so they keep the last use of the serum to the last evolution since it's so hard to almost everyone.
I think most people don't reach their 5th because according to Ella you reach the last evolution when you are ready to acomplish your purpose, my bet is that it means you are ready to be a proper heir to your apostle.
I wonder what it means to be an heir? The 3rd told us we are already their heir (when we touch his blood).
Ella probably isn't...maybe because she didn't evolve naturally or because she doesn't have both traits?
 

RogueEagle

Member
Jul 28, 2017
418
397
I wonder what it means to be an heir? The 3rd told us we are already their heir (when we touch his blood).
Ella probably isn't...maybe because she didn't evolve naturally or because she doesn't have both traits?
at some point they said something about consuming 3 individuals, maybe that is a hint on how you can evolve without being artificially induced, who knows.
 

Ddlc

Member
Jun 22, 2017
388
1,499
I wonder what it means to be an heir? The 3rd told us we are already their heir (when we touch his blood).
Ella probably isn't...maybe because she didn't evolve naturally or because she doesn't have both traits?
My Mc is a spawn of Mommy 4th so i don't rememebr if the 3rd called me his heir :unsure:, space grandpa said that Alice could become his heirs if she ate fairy thing so it's hard to know if they mean having both traits.

I think that being an heir means that they can take your body to have a physical form instead of just being temporary avatars when they visit earth, having both traits, i think, it's something the arbiters want, but that's all tinfoil hat theory to me (even if i'ts my theory o_O).
 

Rutonat

Well-Known Member
Sep 28, 2020
1,784
3,691
Something just occured to me.
Beart with me for a second while I go full on conspiracy theory nutjob.

What if... Syla was actually just a fucking dumb idiot. Like, actually fucking stupid. But human.
And, like we were told by the vague mentions of the MC, she was actually murdered... by H.E.R.O.
They have people capable of seeing in the future, such as Zach and Deus. What if someone at theirs saw the MC's future with them, and that the turning point was his mom dying, and acted on it to make sure the future would take that path ?

So far, S.I.N. has been shown to be the evil side, despite us being warned at multiple turn to not fully trust H.E.R.O. either. But so far, aside from assholes, some being bigger ones than others (Hello Bernhardt), that side's been pretty good. We have yet to see an actual majorly red flag that would make them really fucking dodgy. Sure their methods are kinda forceful, but not outright bordering on evil, contrary to S.I.N.

And WeirdWorld's writting has shown that this fucking world isn't black or white. Everyone is a shade of grey. Absolutely everyone.
So it strikes me as odd that H.E.R.O. would be spared from that and end up being fairly upstanding, for a dystopian world.
So I wouldn't put it past them to actually have some very shady shit done thanks to their oracles...

Edit : typo cleaning.
 
Last edited:

RogueEagle

Member
Jul 28, 2017
418
397
My Mc is a spawn of Mommy 4th so i don't rememebr if the 3rd called me his heir :unsure:, space grandpa said that Alice could become his heirs if she ate fairy thing so it's hard to know if they mean having both traits.

I think that being an heir means that they can take your body to have a physical form instead of just being temporary avatars when they visit earth, having both traits, i think, it's something the arbiters want, but that's all tinfoil hat theory to me (even if i'ts my theory o_O).
Thankfully i'll evolve to 4th and use docs medicine to go to my 5th, skipping the part where my brain gets swapped by some monster god.
 

Rutonat

Well-Known Member
Sep 28, 2020
1,784
3,691
Thankfully i'll evolve to 4th and use docs medicine to go to my 5th, skipping the part where my brain gets swapped by some monster god.
Honestly, I think the MC will probably get to his 5th level naturally, story-wise. It's quite bordering on power-fantasy so it makes more sense, storywritting-wise, I think.
 
  • Like
Reactions: myst0501
4.80 star(s) 391 Votes