ItzSyther

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Have you forgot that SIN is going are kidnapping and likely killing twins? Among those twins are children too by the way. HERO isn't perfect or "good" by any means but let's not turn into SIN simps.
On god it slipped my mind (busy day) but kidnapping, even if its children barely blips on my mind as I'm scaling whom did worse between the 2 factions which at the moment scales heavily in HERO's favor I mean shit this update the fucking leadership was literally spit balling mind control and wiping out the weak in their group (im down for stalin styled purges btw).

No simping for SIN of course they have and most likely will do some more bad shit way worse then kidnapping a buncha twins (and kids at that).

(I do wonder if HERO has done kidnapping of their own...probably but I doubt it was kids unless Deus saw that kid having a lot of potential later on).
 

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Changelogs aren't amazingly usefull for this game since it's fairly linear. Anytime there's an update, it's not modifications to old stuff, it's the story going forward some more.
Changelogs would therefore basically either be "More story. That's it." or spoilers.
Nyx isn't evil, per say. She's more pragmatic, in a very emotionless way.
Bernhardt though would clearly fit the Lawful Evil. He's on the "side of good" but his methods are fucking inhumane, and he's compltely fine about it.

Nyx would be more of a Chaotic Good, in my opinion. They just overlap on small details, and her power to bring people back from death likely skewed shit about her perception.

Imagine if Charlie's Criteria for her killer would be that her brother or someone she sees as familiy needs to kill her...If MC were truly her brother(I still think he should be her brother) that would be such an tragic yet poetic end for both
Well back then, we knew little about the MC's past, so my theory was that she got told her brother was dead to get her to obey, but in reality the MC's mom didn't die and just left his dad. His ego took and hit so he used his son's trauma to make up that story that she died so he wouldn't look for her (as he himself was too angry against her), but she went on to live her life and had a daughter.

Though, the counter-argument about Oscar definitely was more sound, I was just choking on copium and hopium at the time. :KEK:
Also I love the little bitch, always had a fondness for spunky little shits like her.

I think this is specially true if you have a high public and government opinion, i think Amber mentioned last upedate that HERO was holding up because of Mc's influence, so i expect him to start waving around his galactic sized dong and make demands, i said it here before but i think Mc will be the determining factor on how HERO will continue from now on, maybe by siding with either Malik or Bernhardt.
Yes but it still doens't change that the main motor of HE.E.R.O. coming out of the shadows and getting more recruits was because of the MC's image, good or bad. Even if he's a dick, that's still a move they made a profit out of, one way or the other, which serves them ultimately.
So if they deem those benefits worth it, making sure the MC takes the "right path" to get to them eventually would make a lot of sense.
 
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On god it slipped my mind (busy day) but kidnapping, even if its children barely blips on my mind as I'm scaling whom did worse between the 2 factions which at the moment scales heavily in HERO's favor I mean shit this update the fucking leadership was literally spit balling mind control and wiping out the weak in their group (im down for stalin styled purges btw).

No simping for SIN of course they have and most likely will do some more bad shit way worse then kidnapping a buncha twins (and kids at that).
SIN/Ella also freed Valravn. They also use a limited form of mind control thanks to Charlie and Zara and turn their people into meatbags so Langdon can posses them.
I also think we shouldn't consider Ella as part of S.I.N anymore at least not for now.
Her kids however, at least Cole seem to be a main pillar of support for S.I.N
 

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Yes but it still doens't change that the main motor of HE.E.R.O. coming out of the shadows and getting more recruits was because of the MC's image, good or bad. Even if he's a dick, that's still a move they made a profit out of, one way or the other, which serves them ultimately.
So if they deem those benefits worth it, making sure the MC takes the "right path" to get to them eventually would make a lot of sense.
Now do correct me if I'm wrong HERO was always going to come out with or without MC during the events of the party and that giant fucking sword it basically exposed em.

Which makes me think if del never exposed MC they'd just find another shmuck to fill the same role MC did (basically pat up that fella's list of good or bad deeds to make HERO look good).
 

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Yes but it still doens't change that the main motor of HE.E.R.O. coming out of the shadows and getting more recruits was because of the MC's image, good or bad. Even if he's a dick, that's still a move they made a profit out of, one way or the other, which serves them ultimately.
So if they deem those benefits worth it, making sure the MC takes the "right path" to get to them eventually would make a lot of sense.
Oh no, you misunderstand me, my comment was not about Mc acting like a dick (mine is a good boy) but about him having a galactic sized dick and waving it around, i have this image of him since one time when i wondered "Man, it wouldn't be good to grow Mc's dick to the size of a galaxy and hit Cole to the death with it :unsure: ?.
 

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Now do correct me if I'm wrong HERO was always going to come out with or without MC during the events of the party and that giant fucking sword it basically exposed em.

Which makes me think if del never exposed MC they'd just find another shmuck to fill the same role MC did (basically pat up that fella's list of good or bad deeds to make HERO look good).
They do mention (I think it was either Dexter or Xanthe) that the situation with the MC pushed their schedule forward by a lot, but they could use it to their advantage. But again, I'm working from memory, and as it showed multiple times already, my memory can be fucky at times. :KEK:
 

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SIN/Ella also freed Valravn. They also use a limited form of mind control thanks to Charlie and Zara and turn their people into meatbags so Langdon can posses them.
I also think we shouldn't consider Ella as part of S.I.N anymore at least not for now.
Her kids however, at least Cole seem to be a main pillar of support for S.I.N
I'm just gonna assume Ella told her kids to 'support' SIN while she's gone or if something happened to her to continue her plan without her (in da case somethin went wrong) I'm still hesitant placing her kids in SIN's camp but rather its more like a partnership (since Ella wants those weird things that Charlie talks about this update so using SIN to find em is right up 'er alley).
 

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On god it slipped my mind (busy day) but kidnapping, even if its children barely blips on my mind as I'm scaling whom did worse between the 2 factions which at the moment scales heavily in HERO's favor I mean shit this update the fucking leadership was literally spit balling mind control and wiping out the weak in their group (im down for stalin styled purges btw).

No simping for SIN of course they have and most likely will do some more bad shit way worse then kidnapping a buncha twins (and kids at that).

(I do wonder if HERO has done kidnapping of their own...probably but I doubt it was kids unless Deus saw that kid having a lot of potential later on).
So them kidnapping 6 year old twins and turning them into Superhumans, which has an even lower survivability rate is cool with you? SIN actually did this by the way and likely did it with other children along the way.

Don't get me wrong, I've said it in after playing this update that HERO is fucked up for trying to copy Ella, especially Nyx for even suggesting mind control. Luckily, Malik was still against it and Zack said nah and that they should stay the course but still make those who can fight, fight. Even Bernhardt was like no. Nyx was crazy as hell for trying to suggest they do the same as Ella. Which also added more fuel for the Ella and Nyx working together theory out there.
 

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Oh no, you misunderstand me, my comment was not about Mc acting like a dick (mine is a good boy) but about him having a galactic sized dick and waving it around, i have this image of him since one time when i wondered "Man, it wouldn't be good to grow Mc's dick to the size of a galaxy and hit Cole to the death with it :unsure: ?.
Then you lost me, I'll have to admit. :KEK:
I'm completely lost on what the hell you're trying to explain (english isn't my native language so sometimes it's hard for me).
 

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Speaking of Nyx(I also think she works with Ella):
What exactly was her goal in luring out the apostles? Does she want to make a deal with them? Devour their hulls?
 

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So them kidnapping 6 year old twins and turning them into Superhumans, which has an even lower survivability rate is cool with you? SIN actually did this by the way and likely did it with other children along the way.

Don't get me wrong, I've said it in after playing this update that HERO is fucked up for trying to copy Ella, especially Nyx for even suggesting mind control. Luckily, Malik was still against it and Zack said nah and that they should stay the course but still make those who can fight, fight. Even Bernhardt was like no. Nyx was crazy as hell for trying to suggest they do the same as Ella. Which also added more fuel for the Ella and Nyx working together theory out there.
I never said it was cool, I just said it doesn't blip on my radar in comparison to what HERO has done which they were quite open about btw.

Also via this update we learn that those who undergo the superhuman process (at least in SIN's camp) I believe have a higher rate of survival in comparison to those in the HERO camp.
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But in any case kidnapping isn't cool especially if those being kidnapped do not have a high rate of survival but at the same time you must compare what the other side has done as well, which HERO has done a lot of bad (and it shouldn't be ignored cause 'greater good' on some villain shit) but at the same time they've done some good as well (ya know protecting humanity).

If we ignore the kidnapping and Ella's kids antics SIN hasn't done much of anything of note, as I've said prior I don't place Ella's kids in the SIN camp they are partners I imagine until Ella achieves whatever she is after (collectin those weird things)

In an unrelated note I fear for those who are level 1 and 2 in the HERO camp (of course it all depends how things go down next update) but if SIN does recruit former soldiers and the like weaker HERO members are gonna have a hard time like as we saw in this update when that girl refused to fight.
 
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Then you lost me, I'll have to admit. :KEK:
I'm completely lost on what the hell you're trying to explain (english isn't my native language so sometimes it's hard for me).
Don't worry english is also not my first language so i don't even know half of the time if what i say makes any sense :KEK:.

I said "wave his dick around" as a metaphor to "power move", and included "galactic sized dick" because i have this ridiculous mental image of Mc swinging his dick around hitting Cole, my brain clearly is not normal :HideThePain:.
 

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my brain clearly is not normal :HideThePain:.
You're talking to someone who wants Mia to join the harem, made Demi a trap, prefered the prisoner before transforming them into a woman, and so far only had issues in this game with the Ella ear-fucking and the face-hugger sex scenes.

We have a self-made high priest(ess?) who want to clap a dog.

Your brain's fine. :KEK:
 
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Speaking of Nyx(I also think she works with Ella):
What exactly was her goal in luring out the apostles? Does she want to make a deal with them? Devour their hulls?
Nyx didn't set up that experiment, that was Xanthe. It's what she did with the MC leading into it that raised flags, at least for me. From her question she asked the MC suddenly to telling him to join in on it out of the blue. That really did feel like she was baiting some reaction out.

They likely know the MC is also an Apostle Spawn from his inspection by Sharon. Then there's the fact that he has two different traits. Something they didn't make a big deal about at first but that likely changed now.
 

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You're talking to someone who wants Mia to join the harem, made Demi a trap, prefered the prisoner before transforming them into a woman, and so far only had issues in this game with the Ella ear-fucking and the face-hugger sex scenes.

We have a self-made high priest(ess?) who want to clap a dog.

Your brain's fine. :KEK:
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Thank you my dude, is nice to feel accepted :cry:.
 

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My brain is definitely not fine. I have to say it now, fuck! I was trying to hold back but I'm going to say it! I actually had a dream today that Deus is the MC's maternal uncle or cousin. He is Syla's younger half brother or her nephew. That's why he's concerned with the MC's path so much and wants him to succeed.

There I said it, you happy brain! Now it's in the universe forever. Now leave my dreams alone, you monster. :cry:
 

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My brain is definitely not fine. I have to say it now, fuck! I was trying to hold back but I'm going to say it! I actually had a dream today that Deus is the MC's maternal uncle or cousin. He is Syla's younger half brother or her nephew. That's why he's concerned with the MC's path so much and wants him to succeed.

There I said it, you happy brain! Now it's in the universe forever. Now leave my dreams alone, you monster. :cry:
Now that is a fucking amazing dream right there! I kinda like the idea and if it were to be true good lord...in the bad end where Deus kills Arb MC bro had to put down his own family now that shit would suck.

I had a dream about the game a few days ago myself although it was about Deryl killing Mia of all people. Idk why I had that dream but was weird.
 

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Now that is a fucking amazing dream right there! I kinda like the idea and if it were to be true good lord...in the bad end where Deus kills Arb MC bro had to put down his own family now that shit would suck.

I had a dream about the game a few days ago myself although it was about Deryl killing Mia of all people. Idk why I had that dream but was weird.
That's actually why I mentioned it because of the Arbiter discussion earlier. My thoughts wouldn't leave me alone until I said it out loud. The fact that Deus is so overly concerned about the MC's path and even joined HERO just to help him seems to point to some blood ties, regardless if it's from his dad's side or his mom's.

The chance of this being true is extremely low though. But at least my thoughts can rest peaceful at night now. This one would've definitely haunted me for days.
 

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You're talking to someone who wants Mia to join the harem, made Demi a trap, prefered the prisoner before transforming them into a woman, and so far only had issues in this game with the Ella ear-fucking and the face-hugger sex scenes.

We have a self-made high priest(ess?) who want to clap a dog.

Your brain's fine. :KEK:
What? I thought Syther was the prophet who reformed the cult. Damn it, I'm lost on the religious side of the thread again. Guess I'll have go back a few pages and re-read everything to understand the difference between Ellaism and the Dogclapper Sect :KEK:
 
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What? I thought Syther was the prophet who reformed the cult. Damn it, I'm lost on the religious side of the thread again. Guess I'll have go back a few pages and re-read everything to understand the difference between Ellaism and the Dogclapper Sect :KEK:
Brother no that´s how they get you. before you know it their madness has already claim you
 
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