DrakoGhoul

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Nope. This is about over confidence. Nico was sure that she would able to take Ella out with oneshot
Same thing with Danica

Well, he also get several times under Deryl chimera blast and get wounded very badly. Things like this happen in battle. It is not one-side safari, you know?

Just like Valvaran, when from your point of view he should be perfectly fine because his lvl is higher

My truth is that lvl3 give you a huge advantage, but it is not automatic win. Thats all. You deny it and stand on point "Lvl 3 win with cumblast just because it lvl 3"
Cool, now run along.
 

RogueEagle

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It is what it is. I'm already behind on several games as is, I'm not about to waste anymore of my time on this same subject. :KEK:
Don't even remind me, got 35+ tabs of games to download, thats how behind i am but my lazy ass can't muster the strength to do so...
 

88Michele88

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Can MC choose or start as Female and this whay female well male version of herself. Like the Male MC do whe he want go into groly hole and suck some cock, and by female he could go into male resthoorm and have some fun. She cold have same scar ove her eyes and at least meet Ella and gain powers like or diferent from male who knoe jutst dreaming.

Can MC dice to say female forever or become futanari and using male apperance hes disuis while female or fut would be the main form?
 

lg545

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Can MC choose or start as Female and this whay female well male version of herself. Like the Male MC do whe he want go into groly hole and suck some cock, and by female he could go into male resthoorm and have some fun. She cold have same scar ove her eyes and at least meet Ella and gain powers like or diferent from male who knoe jutst dreaming.

Can MC dice to say female forever or become futanari and using male apperance hes disuis while female or fut would be the main form?
Well, MC have male origin (with all his friends know him as male), so he use his female form only for joke or infiltration
But if i remember correctly, he consider a possibility to live in his female form for the rest of his life (as mean to live in hiding when Government public his Hero identity and try to arrest MC)
 

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Guys if you want to make a good case about Michael and Alice taking down Danica, you have to at least provide the exact circumstances and explain how her opponent will corner her, how their powers will counter Danica's defenses (at least the ones she has shown, like the Kryq Shield) or how they will survive her attacks. That's the reason I said that Tiffany has a chance, because she can turn into light and light is massless so it stands to reason that she can completely avoid the "X marks the spot" attack, especially since it has a telegraph. Unless you can find interactions like that for other superhumans, claiming that she is overconfident, or that her enemies are more cunning, or whatever, isn't going to cut it.

You have to describe exactly how she will be trapped. For all her overconfidence, in MC vs Danica, even if she considered MC a weaker opponent, she kept her distance, killed her allies just on the suspicion that they could be a shapeshifted MC and even managed to react against the punch when MC turned into Oscar. You should never assume that Danica lacks for reaction time or that she is stupid.

There is no "smoke bomb" tactic without also having a way to force her to remain in the smock cloud. Unless you can explain how she will be forced to do that, then all she has to do is to backtrack a bit and she will do it safely because with the smoke, neither Alice nor Michael can target their ranged powers effectively.

That's the equivalent of saying "Oh Danica is easy, according to her fight with MC, her attacks aren't that effective against harder objects like wood and concrete, so if we put them inside a steel chamber and gas her, she shouldn't be able to do much". The effect may be plausible but that scenario isn't going to happen unless someone can mind control her or something.

If the point is to prove that Alice and Michael have a non-zero chance of winning, that's already true. You don't have to prove it. It doesn't matter what your powers are, as long as someone isn't completely invincible, there is always a chance for a miscalculation. Especially if we start using non-confirmed assumptions as facts, or external devices that may or may not work. For example even a Human against Malik has a non-zero chance if there is some object that supresses powers. Even that idiot Jared probably has a non-zero chance against MC if a scientist has created a bolt that is super effective against him.

I had way too many similar discussions in DnD forums, especially about the good old Fighter vs Wizard match up. The main argument was always that if the Fighter wins initiative, he will probably win. Someone would think that this means the matchup is 50-50 but it's not, because the chances an optimized fighter will win initiative against an optimized wizard are about 8%. Only the biased are persuaded with such generalities. A level 3, and one who already had her powers for years, is significantly stronger than Alice and Michael who are level 2 and had theirs for barely a few months. You will have to prove that they have something under their sleeve that is really capable of evening the odds, like surviving her powers without having to rely on special circumstances like a smoke bomb or Danica being asleep or something. It has to be straight forward.

Some examples that would give a significant advantage to the level 2, enough to even some odds, but are not confirmed to work that way.
1) Alice may be able to use her gravity powers to create a shield of debris, or even compressed air, that Danica has to destroy first before attacking her body directly. Danica isn't that good at destroying hard objects like wood and concrete with her Kryqs and depending on their thickness they are a good defense against "X marks the spot".
2) Tiffany may be able to get so bright that it's impossible for Danica to keep her gaze long enough to wound her mortally.
3) Michael may be able to use that red energy flare to completely obscure himself from her vision and he may be able to absorb the energy from Kryqs.

If something like that is true, then the level 2 has a fighting chance, but still has to overcome the massive power difference. Forget about flashbangs, ambushes and the like. Sure if Michael ambushes Danica, he has a better chance. What about if Danica ambushes Michael? What then? Prove that they at least have a fighting chance in a fair fight and then we can talk about the terrain.
 

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lg545

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Only the biased are persuaded with such generalities. A level 3, and one who already had her powers for years, is significantly stronger than Alice and Michael who are level 2 and had theirs for barely a few months. You will have to prove that they have something under their sleeve that is really capable of evening the odds, like surviving her powers without having to rely on special circumstances like a smoke bomb or Danica being asleep or something. It has to be straight forward.
Not exactly. We should consider who are this characters are - Alice, Deryl, Michael are characters who combine their super powers with huge military experience and tactics (in Deryl case - his mind) to even the odds against by far suppirior enemies (i mean each of fight they go threw - odd's were not on their side. Still they manage to win or at least give good resistance to the enemy)
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Question is - could they perform something like this here, consider they have information about Danica (at least about her lvl 2 abilities) and have their arsenal of trick (because it is a way how they always fight)
What about if Danica ambushes Michael?
Dont think it possible. She did not have enough experience for this and Michail have top instincts (he consider to be way above MC in this aspect)
 

88Michele88

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Well, MC have male origin (with all his friends know him as male), so he use his female form only for joke or infiltration
But if i remember correctly, he consider a possibility to live in his female form for the rest of his life (as mean to live in hiding when Government public his Hero identity and try to arrest MC)
I like FMC more then his male original form. I hope to see if the dev of the game decid do another timeline with MC as female from the begining with female mc originis. different timeline. Select MC starter gender and it don MC is female form the begining even main charcter become female. it could be cool. But I alweys love Female MC more then Male one. I don't feel nothing about him, he just boring. Alt least female MC can grow a huge dick and fuck others senesless.
 

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What in the actual flying fuck is going on? I think, "Oh they're arguing about Danica? Aight, I'll wait till they're done."

Only to come back 24 hours later to find y'all STILL.ARGUING.ABOUT.D A N I C A.

So what's the beef necromater, you're always a neutral party, what's the sit?
On god I lost track of the whole thing. I hopped in briefly but fucked off cause tired. Usually this shit peters out after a bit but I'm actually impressed ngl.
 

Gtdead

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Not exactly. We should consider who are this characters are - Alice, Deryl, Michael are characters who combine their super powers with huge military experience and tactics (in Deryl case - his mind) to even the odds against by far suppirior enemies (i mean each of fight they go threw - odd's were not on their side. Still they manage to win or at least give good resistance to the enemy)
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Question is - could they perform something like this here, consider they have information about Danica (at least about her lvl 2 abilities) and have their arsenal of trick (because it is a way how they always fight)

Dont think it possible. She did not have enough experience for this and Michail have top instincts (he consider to be way above MC in this aspect)
Despite how experienced Michael is, he has made mistakes in his fights.

Michael made a blunder against Clone Deryl. He went after him and had to blindly deal with the traps. He got overconfident, had to backtrack, and only survived because he managed to avoid a direct hit. Clone Deryl is barely a superhuman in this fight, even if Michael hasn't unlocked his powers yet.
Michael failed to notice Klaus' truck and got knocked out.
Michael failed to notice that Chimera was regenerating and almost died because of it.
Michael also made an error when he thought that the C4s would be enough to kill the Leigong.

He is a tactical genius and he still makes mistakes. One such mistake, one single overextended step. How likely you think is that he will survive "X marks the spot"?
Danica also makes mistakes, but as I've said, she knows she is squishy and how to create distance. And don't forget that she has worked as an assassin for quite some time. Yes she is an overconfident bitch, but she certainly has some tactical experience and it's made apparent with her instincts in the fight against MC. And that's before considering that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger (losing to MC in this case).

What in the actual flying fuck is going on? I think, "Oh they're arguing about Danica? Aight, I'll wait till they're done."

Only to come back 24 hours later to find y'all STILL.ARGUING.ABOUT.D A N I C A.

So what's the beef necromater, you're always a neutral party, what's the sit?
What can I say, discussions about combat are fun. If you can't beat them.. join them? :p
 
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lg545

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I like FMC more then his male original form. I hope to see if the dev of the game decid do another timeline with MC as female from the begining with female mc originis. different timeline. Select MC starter gender and it don MC is female form the begining even main charcter become female. it could be cool. But I alweys love Female MC more then Male one. I don't feel nothing about him, he just boring. Alt least female MC can grow a huge dick and fuck others senesless.
Well, it like ask dev to build another game from the scratch and turn scenario into some sort of Frankenstein
This game in sort is simular to Witcher games series - yeh, you have RPG element in them. You can play as your version of Geralt from Rivia, but it still always be Geralt and not some create person or female version of him. My point is - this game is build with pre-structure main protagonist who is male and all his personality\back story\relationships (like his frenemy relationships with Deryl) build on this fact
 
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necromater

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What in the actual flying fuck is going on? I think, "Oh they're arguing about Danica? Aight, I'll wait till they're done."

Only to come back 24 hours later to find y'all STILL.ARGUING.ABOUT.D A N I C A.

So what's the beef necromater, you're always a neutral party, what's the sit?
Sure neutral party
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They want to prove a lvl 2 can beat a lvl 3 in frontal combat thing that is suicide with weak evidence and a lot of what if. That you have to use what if destroy the Point they even make Drako act mature XD
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88Michele88

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Well, it like ask dev to build another game from the scratch and turn scenario into some sort of Frankenstein
This game in sort is simular to Witcher games series - yeh, you have RPG element in them. You can play as your version of Geralt from Rivia, but it still always be Geralt and not some create person or female version of him. My point is - this game is build with pre-structure main protagonist who is male and all his personality\back story\relationships (like his frenemy relationships with Deryl) build on this fact
it not another game same game with different starter gender. You don't know nothing babout select MC gender female or male fit coudl be the same story but the difference is like I sayd before it would be same outcome as well MC could still fuck evyone as her male disguise same only MC would change in all scene when it see him as male. If you say suggesting is a sin then I will sin to wish this game had gender selcot female or male or futa. Suggesting is never wrong. With derryl it could be the same even if MC would be female, they would be the same frindship but timeline FMC would hit like he did in the male orgins. I see nothing wrong with changing MC gender from the begining. FMC could heve the tughest temper, but it wouldn't change nothing.
 
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