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Sometimes i think about this scene and I what to ask if anyone here think that would be a time where we have to choose between siding with humans or superhumans ? Because in my opinion there's no way to side with humans, I believe that the future in the story is to everyone become a superhuman, but there's some characters in the story that I think they will die if they tried to become a superhuman, maybe when MC get to his final evolution or maybe just the next one will be enough, he could change the bodies of those who will try to get transformed and reduced the chances of they dying.
 

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I also wonder if the MC get nabbed by Ella will we get an arc where we learn about how she became superhuman, what happened at the massacre, why she chose us to be her chosen, how she knew us before we met, you know stuff like that
This is all pretty well established as backstory. It's highly unlikely that it will just be left hanging and never addressed in the story.
We might not get an in depth enough explanation to satisfy everyone, and it's possible some things will be left as a mystery, but they'll end up being addressed in the long term.
 

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Sometimes i think about this scene and I what to ask if anyone here think that would be a time where we have to choose between siding with humans or superhumans ? Because in my opinion there's no way to side with humans, I believe that the future in the story is to everyone become a superhuman, but there's some characters in the story that I think they will die if they tried to become a superhuman, maybe when MC get to his final evolution or maybe just the next one will be enough, he could change the bodies of those who will try to get transformed and reduced the chances of they dying.
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They will evolve or they will die evolution is the base of every organic the monster horde is just another foe in the the war for survival and let's be honest our monkey brain needs an enemy or we start Killing each other that's the true face of mankind.
 
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How to sum up the dogclapper lore from an outsider's perspective


From a Dogclapper's perspective


Remember boys and girls ShadowDrip is forever.

Now its off to work for me :cry:
Bro really turned hirohito drip into shadowdrip

Lets get the theory ball rolling again, how and why do you think the MC will join Ella for a short time, or will he join her at all?

I ask this because there has been a lot of foreshadowing that Ella is not dead and intends to nab the MC, and we've seen some talks between higher ups at hero about whether they can trust the MC.

personally i think either

a) The MC's gonna be in a major fight (maybe with sin?) where he wins but he's weakened and that's when Ella reveals she's still alive and disappears with the MC

b) The MC might find out something shady at HERO that personally relates to him (maybe they screw him over or he finds out they were behind his mothers death?) and he's forced to hide out with Ella

I also wonder if the MC get nabbed by Ella will we get an arc where we learn about how she became superhuman, what happened at the massacre, why she chose us to be her chosen, how she knew us before we met, you know stuff like that
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I'd say she's gonna appear during the meeting and kidnap us. The problem I see with this theory is that she hasn't had a lot of time to do whatever she wanted to do, but it's been a few weeks (I think) so that should be enough to wreak havoc in our base and take valvarn (I think that may be one of her goals).
 

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Goddamn every single time I hop on this thread the insanity just keeps getting worse and worse...
The lore was already beginning to turn into madness but now with the drawings...
I fear this place hath been forgotten by God.

The absolute state of syther:
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This is indeed the darkest thread
 

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Goddamn every single time I hop on this thread the insanity just keeps getting worse and worse...
The lore was already beginning to turn into madness but now with the drawings...
I fear this place hath been forgotten by God.

The absolute state of syther:
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This is indeed the darkest thread
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pedal to the metal into the madness just enjoy the ride brother and
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Goddamn every single time I hop on this thread the insanity just keeps getting worse and worse...
The lore was already beginning to turn into madness but now with the drawings...
I fear this place hath been forgotten by God.

The absolute state of syther:
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This is indeed the darkest thread
Honestly the drawings add to the perfection that is dogclapper lore.

It shall be used so much more I assure ye!
 

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Lets get the theory ball rolling again, how and why do you think the MC will join Ella for a short time, or will he join her at all?

I ask this because there has been a lot of foreshadowing that Ella is not dead and intends to nab the MC, and we've seen some talks between higher ups at hero about whether they can trust the MC.

personally i think either

a) The MC's gonna be in a major fight (maybe with sin?) where he wins but he's weakened and that's when Ella reveals she's still alive and disappears with the MC

b) The MC might find out something shady at HERO that personally relates to him (maybe they screw him over or he finds out they were behind his mothers death?) and he's forced to hide out with Ella

I also wonder if the MC get nabbed by Ella will we get an arc where we learn about how she became superhuman, what happened at the massacre, why she chose us to be her chosen, how she knew us before we met, you know stuff like that
Actually with the amount of meat riding for H.E.R.O, and how much a majority of our friends are interconnected with them (Tiffany for takeover, Michael for Strength, Alice for partnership, Jake with his collar, Danica, etc. etc.) I've always assumed that we'll stay with H.E.R.O till Lvl 5, and THEN betray them optionally or something...perhaps they try to cull the populace Omni-Man style due to Malik being outvoted or something and it turns into a chaotic Civil War.

My point is, I don't see us joining S.I.N, at all given the current path. IF the above comes to pass in whatever way (a situation in which we have the opportunity to leave through the chaos) we COULD join S.I.N. But I doubt Ella will be the one to bring us in, let alone through force. I've always been of the belief that we will never TRULY understand Ella's actions until AFTER we beat her, probably through an Evolutionary Boss Fight or something. Then she'll reveal WHY she's been doing all these things and it'll be some sad backstory that will have us second guessing if we should kill her; this leading to the choice between sparing and killing her.
 

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Actually with the amount of meat riding for H.E.R.O, and how much a majority of our friends are interconnected with them (Tiffany for takeover, Michael for Strength, Alice for partnership, Jake with his collar, Danica, etc. etc.) I've always assumed that we'll stay with H.E.R.O till Lvl 5, and THEN betray them optionally or something...perhaps they try to cull the populace Omni-Man style due to Malik being outvoted or something and it turns into a chaotic Civil War.
The meat riding is fucking wild considering the player has the choice to even say they dont want to remain with HERO early on and the MC is super quiet when his friends talk about how much they like it there now and how they plan to stay for whatever reason they have...meanwhile MC? Dude is quiet asf and says nothing about how he feels (at least from what I remember).

My point is, I don't see us joining S.I.N, at all given the current path. IF the above comes to pass in whatever way (a situation in which we have the opportunity to leave through the chaos) we COULD join S.I.N. But I doubt Ella will be the one to bring us in, let alone through force. I've always been of the belief that we will never TRULY understand Ella's actions until AFTER we beat her, probably through an Evolutionary Boss Fight or something. Then she'll reveal WHY she's been doing all these things and it'll be some sad backstory that will have us second guessing if we should kill her; this leading to the choice between sparing and killing her.
The MC most likely won't be joining SIN...but rather Ella and her goons (her kids). Do not forget Ella is a partner of SIN not a full fledge member.

She is using SIN to further her goals meanwhile SIN (its leadership) has its own goals and ambitions and simply needs Ella for that...its a mutual partnership.

Ella also made it sound like the MC had no choice in the matter because he is going to join rather he wants to or not. Be it her doing so or one of her other goons capable of defeating the MC.
 

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Sometimes i think about this scene and I what to ask if anyone here think that would be a time where we have to choose between siding with humans or superhumans ? Because in my opinion there's no way to side with humans, I believe that the future in the story is to everyone become a superhuman, but there's some characters in the story that I think they will die if they tried to become a superhuman, maybe when MC get to his final evolution or maybe just the next one will be enough, he could change the bodies of those who will try to get transformed and reduced the chances of they dying.
There already kind of has been throughout the game with interviews, this choice, etc etc. So I'm sure you're right there will probably be a major choice involving "picking" a side if not temporarily that will affect our relationships with human or Superhuman characters.

I personally wish there was a neutral option because I equally despise a majority from both sides. Having to pick between 2 seems so trivial because I'm loyal to neither, it's select people within each side I care about.

As for the specific choice here both sides are assholes, though the human here is obviously a little manic which pushed the Superhuman to go beyond what he should show on camera (goes to show it is always hiding there though). Which is why I personally chose to watch, I'm not going to ride the H.E.R.O execs by cleaning their shit management/training, or those that they "train" in the first place.

Regarding your solution by making the Superhuman transformation more successful through our manipulation; that would be insanity. We'd be like Nico or Alexis god forbid with our constant whining for having to help transform up to a couple BILLION people 24/7. NOT a long term solution for sure.
 

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The meat riding is fucking wild considering the player has the choice to even say they dont want to remain with HERO early on and the MC is super quiet when his friends talk about how much they like it there now and how they plan to stay for whatever reason they have...meanwhile MC? Dude is quiet asf and says nothing about how he feels (at least from what I remember).


The MC most likely won't be joining SIN...but rather Ella and her goons (her kids). Do not forget Ella is a partner of SIN not a full fledge member.

She is using SIN to further her goals meanwhile SIN (its leadership) has its own goals and ambitions and simply needs Ella for that...its a mutual partnership.

Ella also made it sound like the MC had no choice in the matter because he is going to join rather he wants to or not. Be it her doing so or one of her other goons capable of defeating the MC.
Sorry that's what I meant, joining her kids not S.I.N, I agree we'll never join S.I.N. But I still think my argument for Ella and her kids is still up for debate. If we DID do it we couldn't live normally i.e have the Weekly Misc. grind/routes like we do at H.E.R.O or at the College. H.E.R.O would probably actively try to hunt/assassinate us if not threaten to murder our friends. If we did join even temporarily I think it would be more of a short term Arc and would eventually still have to lead to us fighting Ella be it affiliated back with H.E.R.O or not.

Given the choice I'd join Ella to keep tabs on her, get to know Zara, and get close to kill Cole. Plus I feel like we'd have FAR more benefits at her side then a monster heart transplant every fucking billion months from our oh so wise Xanthe. She knows the Monster world, there's a chance the 3rd & 4th may be even more direct with us due to our alignment leaning more towards their side rather than the ones actively hunting them. Far more lore both from Ella AND the monster world there, and I'm sure more insightful hunts if we are going for the Monster hearts or Tainted Artifact touched Monsters (if I remember their name). Probably more freedom too, I don't have to look fucking good on camera, kiss up to Elijah and his justice and peace way of always shadowing our decisions, or pretending to care about Bernhardt's Super-Nazi decisions, or the stupid rules of leaving base, paper work, etc. etc. Ella would probably just FIND us if she needed us to go on a hunt and tell us to go there if not immediately teleporting us with Her lol. She may also be a wee bit more insightful than Xanthe with our powers given she I dunno, A. Isn't human and doesn't disregard Monster visions as theories and B. Shares the same ability as us and C. Actively knows more about monsters than anyone we've seen, and our abilities come from; you guessed it, monsters.
 

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I am very tired of this totalitarian shithole of a world gov and am very much in favor of doing as much as humanly(heh) possible to fuck them and their authoritarian wet dreams over.

._. So if the day ever comes where HERO can be stuck where the sun don't shine I shall be for it.
 
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There already kind of has been throughout the game with interviews, this choice, etc etc. So I'm sure you're right there will probably be a major choice involving "picking" a side if not temporarily that will affect our relationships with human or Superhuman characters.

I personally wish there was a neutral option because I equally despise a majority from both sides. Having to pick between 2 seems so trivial because I'm loyal to neither, it's select people within each side I care about.

As for the specific choice here both sides are assholes, though the human here is obviously a little manic which pushed the Superhuman to go beyond what he should show on camera (goes to show it is always hiding there though). Which is why I personally chose to watch, I'm not going to ride the H.E.R.O execs by cleaning their shit management/training, or those that they "train" in the first place.

Regarding your solution by making the Superhuman transformation more successful through our manipulation; that would be insanity. We'd be like Nico or Alexis god forbid with our constant whining for having to help transform up to a couple BILLION people 24/7. NOT a long term solution for sure.
When I said the mc maybe can help those who will try to become a superhuman, I was talking about the people around us not everyone, like helping emily, liz, amber and others characters that are humans and they have a high chance of failing the process. If there's a solution that deryl working with xanthe and maybe mc helping somehow can help everyone it'd be good, because in theory HERO is helping the world, but if not then the mininum is deryl and mc creat a solution to help those close to us to become superhuman or they'll die!
 
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Men Bramon should at least made this
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So that they can have a plan T

To get time to finish plan A
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Because mankind gonna Need a lot of plan C
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Lets hope the don't Need to use plan P that one suck balls
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But boy plan P is op XD
Till they fuck plan A and this go down
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Lets get the theory ball rolling again, how and why do you think the MC will join Ella for a short time, or will he join her at all?

I ask this because there has been a lot of foreshadowing that Ella is not dead and intends to nab the MC, and we've seen some talks between higher ups at hero about whether they can trust the MC.

personally i think either

a) The MC's gonna be in a major fight (maybe with sin?) where he wins but he's weakened and that's when Ella reveals she's still alive and disappears with the MC

b) The MC might find out something shady at HERO that personally relates to him (maybe they screw him over or he finds out they were behind his mothers death?) and he's forced to hide out with Ella

I also wonder if the MC get nabbed by Ella will we get an arc where we learn about how she became superhuman, what happened at the massacre, why she chose us to be her chosen, how she knew us before we met, you know stuff like that
To be honest, I don't think it'll have anything to do with HERO, specifically. I believe that going with Ella is going to be a part of the plot like joining HERO. It won't matter if the MC is for or against HERO or Ella. You'll be forced to join Ella regardless. As for the cause, it's likely that the 3rd and 4th are going to intervene in some manner to command the MC go with her. We all know Ella isn't dead but she won't be able to escape HERO and take the MC with her at the same time. At least not by herself.

Originally, I thought maybe Ella could forcibly take the MC but he's too strong now and depending on how far he develops during this arc, Ella won't be able to make him come. That isn't to say Ella can't beat the MC. It's more that she won't be able to subdue him as easily as she could in the past. There's also the fact that MC has built up super strong allies that would prevent it from happening. That's why I feel like our monster parent is going to be involved. That's the only way we can be made to joined Ella.

From a plot perspective, it makes a lot of sense for the Apostles to make us join our "Cousin/Sis" kin since they're supposedly on their way. Naturally, the MC will have to join them as their child, no matter what. It also wouldn't conflict with players who like HERO and don't like Ella at all, since it's being done via an outside party of the two. Even for an Ella simp MC, he wouldn't just up and leave everyone for her, so the driving force behind it all would possibly be something well out of his own control. Regardless of what that is, it's not at all because the MC decided to join Ella. Ella pretty much confirmed that he has no say in it at all and that it'll inevitably happen.
 
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