VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[there]

Oh, true, the one with the 4th Evo was Ella.

Still, Jake was able to affect her until she actually found out and got mad at him.

The reason why I say that potentially the cross power and the likes of it are the most powerful;

She could just stare at about ANYONE, including the final evolution red haired girl, or the gun user...And, in the end, she's still split them in 4 pieces with a snap of her fingers. Sure, in an actual combat she'd have no chance against one of them cause she'd get oneshotted, her cross wouldn't defend her from the buried swords, or pistol rays, etc...But like I said, she can potentially just outright kill anyone no matter the power level they're on, just cause being able to outright insta-slice someone with no ability to dodge is one of the most...Mmh...Overpowered abilities that you can probably see, ever, specially if she can do that at level 1.

Still, yeah, you've got a point in that, it depends on the enemy too, though. Cross power wouldn't do anything against the Minyak, probably, but she'd also be unable to hurt you(Since crosses would stop the spit and they're not physical, so it isn't really something she'd be able to control.

Mental powers would also be worthless against monsters like those, in which case powers like the Gravity bomb power or Neon Plasma power would be better. Realistically, in a real fight, the main character would absolutely lose that fight. There's chances in which the Minyak could have just spat at him or become gooey so the punches would go through(And control the hand after that), or more stuff like that.

I'm overthinking stuff at his point though, I like speculating with powers and stuff, you know?

I also think it's probable that because of the transformative nature of the character's power, he'll be able to consume other powers, or, most likely, imitate some of them...Maybe not though, who knows.

I agree but let me elaborate, some powers are just ultra specifically good at doing one thing. In the case of the cross girl nobody is better than her when it comes to cutting in a cross shape pattern but is sort of limited to doing exactly just that in a smaller or larger scale unless she can somehow be creative with it.

Point being like many animals, these people with powers are great at doing somewhat specific things (like lions are ambush hunters in the land, crocodiles are the best ambush hunters of the lake, giraffe can eat from high places, cheetahs can run the fastest on land for a short while, etc) therefore a lion cannot beat a crocodile at ambush hunting in the lake and vice versa. Hence, its understandable that the Red Iron Lady was not able to fight against Yellow Mental Man (Jake) until she understood exactly what he is able to do, in which case she was able to beat him (like a hippo fighting against a lion, the lion does not stand a chance unless the lion can get lucky catch a weakened hippo by surprise). In the same sense the blue cross lady has the potential to kill absolutely anyone (like a lion) but in some cases her powers are useless. Our MC can regenerate itself from anything therefore, he is a great counter to her (like a Rhino's thick skin is a great counter to the bite of animals).

Which is why if you think about their powers like that you will notice some of them are unbeatable in some situations and very beatable in others. Which is why I like our MC. He is a jack of all trades and can use his powers, offensively, defensively, tactically (memory gain, shape change, formless, etc) and his ability to beat others are mostly dependent upon how creative he can get.

He sort of reminds me of us (humans) we are not the strongest, or the fastest, or the biggest but us as a species used the advantages we had as creatively as possible to win battles against other species. We are intelligent, but we can make and throw things (like spears), we can also communicate and teach the next generation what we have learned building upon it, we can eat nearly anything, live in large numbers and run for long distances because we can not only heat ourselves but also cool ourselves down allowing us to live anywhere. We used these advantages in combination as best we could to come out on top. Did we win all the time, NO but we learned from it and won eventually.

I want our MC in this game to be like that. I do not want him to get overpowered by absorbing powers but use his jack of all trades powers to learn through it and eventually use his powers in such a way that he becomes overpowered in nearly all situations.

 

[Zetsuko]

I agree but let me elaborate, some powers are just ultra specifically good at doing one thing. In the case of the cross girl nobody is better than her when it comes to cutting in a cross shape pattern but is sort of limited to doing exactly just that in a smaller or larger scale unless she can somehow be creative with it.

Point being like many animals, these people with powers are great at doing somewhat specific things (like lions are ambush hunters in the land, crocodiles are the best ambush hunters of the lake, giraffe can eat from high places, cheetahs can run the fastest on land for a short while, etc) therefore a lion cannot beat a crocodile at ambush hunting in the lake and vice versa. Hence, its understandable that the Red Iron Lady was not able to fight against Yellow Mental Man (Jake) until she understood exactly what he is able to do, in which case she was able to beat him (like a hippo fighting against a lion, the lion does not stand a chance unless the lion can get lucky catch a weakened hippo by surprise). In the same sense the blue cross lady has the potential to kill absolutely anyone (like a lion) but in some cases her powers are useless. Our MC can regenerate itself from anything therefore, he is a great counter to her (like a Rhino's thick skin is a great counter to the bite of animals).

Which is why if you think about their powers like that you will notice some of them are unbeatable in some situations and very beatable in others. Which is why I like our MC. He is a jack of all trades and can use his powers, offensively, defensively, tactically (memory gain, shape change, formless, etc) and his ability to beat others are mostly dependent upon how creative he can get.

He sort of reminds me of us (humans) we are not the strongest, or the fastest, or the biggest but us as a species used the advantages we had as creatively as possible to win battles against other species. We are intelligent, but we can make and throw things (like spears), we can also communicate and teach the next generation what we have learned building upon it, we can eat nearly anything, live in large numbers and run for long distances because we can not only heat ourselves but also cool ourselves down allowing us to live anywhere. We used these advantages in combination as best we could to come out on top. Did we win all the time, NO but we learned from it and won eventually.

I want our MC in this game to be like that. I do not want him to get overpowered by absorbing powers but use his jack of all trades powers to learn through it and eventually use his powers in such a way that he becomes overpowered in nearly all situations.

I wouldn't say our character is a Jack of all trades, he's more of a powerhouse. Let me elaborate;

He has Average to infinite defensive capabilities, normal to infinite offensive capabilities, and he has normal to infinite regenerative capabilities.

Why infinite? Well, cause the more he evolves the stronger all these things will become at the same time; Obviously it's not absolutely infinite, but he is a powerhouse cause his abilities grow exponentially, they're not at base value.

Mmh...To put it in simpler words; He can do one thing and one thing only, BUT he can do it better and better, as where Cross-woman(I actually think her name is Danica...?) and the likes of her(Red haired girl, pistol guy) are actual fighting forces. It's not the same really; Remember the fight against the giant Minyak? The way you beat it isn't by freezing it(Cause it's a slime) or something like that, or dodging till it gets tired with your speed(It's a game over, this.), you literally powerhouse the encounter, you're just a normal you with your basic abilities you have even from evolution 1, but bigger. How did you beat Kenny at the start? Powerhouse, too.

Also, cross woman's power is a counter to our character, not the other way around...He only wins cause she's overconfident and he discovers a flaw in her patterns of attack, but if you make the wrong choice(I tend to pick all choices and go back to see all the outcomes), she just splits you in 4 pieces, then proceeds to mangle your now regenerating immobile body with crosses till you run out of fuel and die. The fact that she can skip all defense and straight up mutilate is what makes her ability special, red haired girl swords can probably be tanked with enough armor(If you're equally evolved and all that), but not straight up magical disintegration.

There's also an alternate choice if you stay and talk with her when she suddenly appears where she oneshots the both of you at the same time.(Gravity power woman and you), she literally splits the both of you in 4 pieces, she obviously instantly dies and you get mangled to death, like in the other version.

 

[mrttao]

You look to close at the end. All of the monsters and mutants have too much in common to neglect the fact they are (infected) from a single species or even a single monster. The mutants developed their powers based on their host. Sure, the direct blood- or lets say goo-line refers to the previous one or the strongest of them, but basically they all see mother in their evolution. They may have differences like black and white people or nerds and athlets, but overall its the same species and mother is either the source of all of them or it is a distant (moon) core creature of a hive mind like the borg queen from star trek that tries connect or just to contact their "people", would explain why we only see/hear her in evolution stages while the raw power outbreak overwhelms the host until he adapts and it settles down. It could also be a genetic memory about their origin, however, point is all monsters are one species and all hybrids are just family...and like every family there are some you like and some you want to burn in public. Your symbiont, the voice, whatever you want to call it managed to break of the memory block, of course it is enraged because they were there in the first place and any enraged primal insinct knows only one solution to calm down: Annihilate the reason.

1. All mammals have a common ancestor. does not mean we are not different species from a tiger.

2. Being the same species does not mean there are no specific genetic inheritances. You say "but they are the same species", but how does that justify your argument? if two A blood type people have a child, the child is not going to have B type blood. even if A type blood and B type blood are both found in humans, the individual parents must have it for the child to inherit it.

 

[there]

I wouldn't say our character is a Jack of all trades, he's more of a powerhouse. Let me elaborate;

He has Average to infinite defensive capabilities, normal to infinite offensive capabilities, and he has normal to infinite regenerative capabilities.

Why infinite? Well, cause the more he evolves the stronger all these things will become at the same time; Obviously it's not absolutely infinite, but he is a powerhouse cause his abilities grow exponentially, they're not at base value.

Mmh...To put it in simpler words; He can do one thing and one thing only, BUT he can do it better and better, as where Cross-woman(I actually think her name is Danica...?) and the likes of her(Red haired girl, pistol guy) are actual fighting forces. It's not the same really; Remember the fight against the giant Minyak? The way you beat it isn't by freezing it(Cause it's a slime) or something like that, or dodging till it gets tired with your speed(It's a game over, this.), you literally powerhouse the encounter, you're just a normal you with your basic abilities you have even from evolution 1, but bigger. How did you beat Kenny at the start? Powerhouse, too.

Also, cross woman's power is a counter to our character, not the other way around...He only wins cause she's overconfident and he discovers a flaw in her patterns of attack, but if you make the wrong choice(I tend to pick all choices and go back to see all the outcomes), she just splits you in 4 pieces, then proceeds to mangle your now regenerating immobile body with crosses till you run out of fuel and die. The fact that she can skip all defense and straight up mutilate is what makes her ability special, red haired girl swords can probably be tanked with enough armor(If you're equally evolved and all that), but not straight up magical disintegration.

There's also an alternate choice if you stay and talk with her when she suddenly appears where she oneshots the both of you at the same time.(Gravity power woman and you), she literally splits the both of you in 4 pieces, she obviously instantly dies and you get mangled to death, like in the other version.

Got it. I did not think of it like that, considering what you said, that Cross Woman (Danica) is truly an offensive powerhouse and our counter. I also did not think of our MC as a powerhouse until you mentioned the last battle but our character is of the same species as her, however a level ascended which is why the battle was like two bears fighting against one another (the bigger and slightly smarter one won).

Still, I will not disagree the fact that our character is an overall powerhouse and is capable of doing damn near everything at it's highest level. I think that there is a base level of energy required of every Powers to do what they do and our characters base power is at a higher level than most (or maybe it is more efficient in using it) which is why he looks like a powerhouse (like a Judo master throwing people like they are nothing). We will see.

My theory is that our MCs Power giving species is a progenitor from which all other magical species comes from, which is why our MC has a little bit of similar power from all other magical species we will see from now on (shape changing, mental power, energy power to change other things, strengthening, defending, etc.)

 

[IndOnesia]

The more mc kill the stronger he are
Corruption route is where our mc doing no gods no master

 

[Edvin]

Zetsuko
You are right that all superhumans are universally more resilient and harder to kill. If they have enough time (and in some cases a little medical help) they are able to survive almost anything that doesn't kill them immediately. But if you don't have a specific ability to keep your body out of harm (protective shield, extremely durable body like Oskar or strong regeneration) you'll still die if bullet hit you in the head or if someone pierces your heart.

Jake's power requires that you hear him or that he touch you. So everyone who can't hear him is immune. Also, his orders must not be too against the will of the person, otherwise he will defend himself. Even an ordinary person was too much for him (Mia) when he wanted to go straight against her mind. Overpower the mind of a superhuman would be even harder. Using his power in combat would be very difficult, if not almost impossible.

Cross power is definitely not THAT strong because it has a lot of limits

a) You need to see your target well.
Anything that is too fast, too small or too far away will not be affected by your power.

b) Limited reach.
You can only fight at medium range.
And you will also have a problem fighting in the dark.

c) Very limited defense.
Although she proved to have some limited defensive capabilities, they were limited to the goals she saw.
Remember that only one surprise attack was enough to defeat her. Her body was very weak.

BTW

By the way, oneshot kill power is useless when your body is so weak that almost anything can oneshot kill you. In this case, even an experienced sniper is better. A good soldier with a high caliber sniper rifle and a silencer should be able to kill most superhumans.

 

[Zetsuko]

Zetsuko
You are right that all superhumans are universally more resilient and harder to kill. If they have enough time (and in some cases a little medical help) they are able to survive almost anything that doesn't kill them immediately. But if you don't have a specific ability to keep your body out of harm (protective shield, extremely durable body like Oskar or strong regeneration) you'll still die if bullet hit you in the head or if someone pierces your heart.

Jake's power requires that you hear him or that he touch you. So everyone who can't hear him is immune. Also, his orders must not be too against the will of the person, otherwise he will defend himself. Even an ordinary person was too much for him (Mia) when he wanted to go straight against her mind. Overpower the mind of a superhuman would be even harder. Using his power in combat would be very difficult, if not almost impossible.

Cross power is definitely not THAT strong because it has a lot of limits

a) You need to see your target well.
Anything that is too fast, too small or too far away will not be affected by your power.

b) Limited reach.
You can only fight at medium range.
And you will also have a problem fighting in the dark.

c) Very limited defense.
Although she proved to have some limited defensive capabilities, they were limited to the goals she saw.
Remember that only one surprise attack was enough to defeat her. Her body was very weak.

BTW

By the way, oneshot kill power is useless when your body is so weak that almost anything can oneshot kill you. In this case, even an experienced sniper is better. A good soldier with a high caliber sniper rifle and a silencer should be able to kill most superhumans.

I mean, what if I took the position of that same sniper, and then used a telescope to look at you real angrily and real hard and then snapped my fingers? Not to mention, the cross grows in size the more she stares at you, but the minimum bare size is enough to kill any normal person, or even a superhuman that would be killed by a headshot. Actually, anything that would be killed by a headshot, could INSTANTLY be killed by erasing a bullet sized X shaped figure from the head...And the initial size of the X is bigger than a bullet. It's also less conspicuous. You can trace bullets back to the place they come from, but with this power you can be the perfect X marks the spot hitman. You just need to give ONE look at your target(s), and then you can even wait a full day, snap your fingers, and all those targets will die.

And before you say you can't mark more than one person, she does in the game.

On another point; Very limited defense? Enough to stop your attacks and break your arms when you hit the flying crosses, so that's a good enough defense for me, far better than the Gravity defense, since this one is also harmful and harder(Even if it's not passive).

In Reality, if Danica had gone against ANYONE else other than our character, in the FIRST ever scene in which they met, she would've instantly won...Cause her power is a perfect assassination skill.

All powers except our character's have problems fighting in the dark, unless they're huge AoE powers in which case they would be dangerous for you even. Also, crosses probably illuminate the area a bit, they do look glowy at least.

All powers would have problems fighting anything faster than them...But actually, not the cross power. Remember, Danica would just need one look at you, after that you're just a finger-snap away from death. It can be while talking, or it can be while you're not fighting, but all she has to do it see you for at least one second, considering every X marks the spot would saw an X clean through you in the game. Not just a fleshwound in X shape, it was a literal X shaped hole through your body, making that effectively an autoaimed, instant bullet would every snap, and if she is able to stare at you longer, that's like a Barret-Sniper level of damage she can deal.

I do have to agree with you on Jake probably losing a fight in the end, but I doubt he would lose against a normal human almost, like, ever. In the game, you can see his first instinct when he is in danger is saying Command: Pain. Meaning any human would probably fall flat to the ground(According to himself), and that even works on superhumans, since the Ultraevolved red haired Blade-woman felt pain(But she was angry and resilient to it, since she's MUCH more evolved, otherwise it might have incapacitated or crippled her)


Edit: This is also the typical staple you face when talking about superpowers. The way you're "countering the powers" is by using gained knowledge...But if you just met Jake for a first time fight, or Danica...You'd probably never see it coming.

 

[Edvin]

Zetsuko
Crosses are not unstoppable.
Not only their size but also their strength increases.
MC he was able to survive a few crosses because Danica didn't have enough time to look at him.

I admit that if she has enough time and a clear view, she is able to kill anyone.
But how many enemies will give her that time and a clear view?

You don't need a stronger attack, you just need attack that is faster or hit a larger area.
She is not much faster than an ordinary person, and her body is not very resilient.
Speed, smoke, darkness, flashbang, sniper... she is not so hard to counter.

 

[Zetsuko]

Zetsuko
Crosses are not unstoppable.
Not only their size but also their strength increases.
MC he was able to survive a few crosses because Danica didn't have enough time to look at him.

I admit that if she has enough time and a clear view, she is able to kill anyone.
But how many enemies will give her that time and a clear view?

You don't need a stronger attack, you just need attack that is faster or hit a larger area.
She is not much faster than an ordinary person, and her body is not very resilient.
Speed, smoke, darkness, flashbang, sniper... she is not so hard to counter.

Again: She is not so hard to counter...If you know her power. You, as an all knowing god(The Player, who can see things that not even the main character sees), KNOW her power because the main character discovers how her power works AFTER BEING HIT BY IT various times.

The main character ONLY survives her because of his supernatural healing factor. Anyone else with a cross shaped hole through their whole body, is dead. In the case of a superhuman, not dead but gravely injured.

And again; She can also act as a sniper, anyone can be countered by a Flashbang, anyone can be countered by speed, and anyone can be countered by a sniper(Cept Minyak, the main character, or Ella cause they're goo.)

In reality, a tiny hole(Probably a quarter of a second of viewing you) can kill you if it's in the head. A superhuman could get severely injured by a "Bullet wound" in the head, unless it's a regenerative kind...And her cross starts off bigger than a bullet at face value...She could realistically snap her fingers straight after looking at you and you'd get a bullet wound to the forehead.

 

[Edvin]

And again; She can also act as a sniper, anyone can be countered by a Flashbang, anyone can be countered by speed, and anyone can be countered by a sniper(Cept Minyak, the main character, or Ella cause they're goo.)

Her abilities are based on visual projection through her eyes.
They cannot be used through a scope or binoculars.
Even glasses should make it impossible for her to use her ability.
All those items would shatter.

And I doubt that a miniature cross would kill an ordinary person. Oskar received several hits from her with quite large crosses and only had burns on the surface of the skin. His skin and muscles are firmer than normal humans, but I doubt they are firmer than a human skull. Not only the size but also the power of the cross increases as she looks at you longer. If she only sees you briefly, it won't do much damage.

 

[Zetsuko]

Her abilities are based on visual projection through her eyes.
They cannot be used through a scope or binoculars.
Even glasses should make it impossible for her to use her ability.
All those items would shatter.

And I doubt that a miniature cross would kill an ordinary person. Oskar received several hits from her with quite large crosses and only had burns on the surface of the skin. His skin and muscles are firmer than normal humans, but I doubt they are firmer than a human skull. Not only the size but also the power of the cross increases as she looks at you longer. If she only sees you briefly, it won't do much damage.

Can a human skull survive multiple shotgun blasts and grenades? Cause Oskar can, generally unscathed at that.

Besides, they didn't want to kill Oskar, she probably only used the Blue crosses, not the X marks the spot.

 

[zandalari]

Y'all talking about Danica's cross abilities and they are cool and all.... But imagine what the monster who made her can do. Does it control everything it can see via imaginary cross shaped vectors? I don't even know where the logical extreme of that particular powerset ends besides just "bigger. better, faster". Either way if we ever see it, I'd like to hand HERO the first shot at it. Good luck, have fun, I'll be watching through a telescope.

 

[Zetsuko]

Y'all talking about Danica's cross abilities and they are cool and all.... But imagine what the monster who made her can do. Does it control everything it can see via imaginary cross shaped vectors? I don't even know where the logical extreme of that particular powerset ends besides just "bigger. better, faster". Either way if we ever see it, I'd like to hand HERO the first shot at it. Good luck, have fun, I'll be watching through a telescope.

Danica's words;
She started running away from it but there was no escaping since the monster ALREADY was in the place where she was going to run...And, again, her words; She suddenly stopped feeling her legs, since they were "cut off" clean, but no blood. Meaning the creature just made a cut big enough to cut both her legs off instantly, and with no fingersnapping.

Most of the creatures are probably OP as heck; Look at the Minyak...As I stated before, the Main character shouldn't really have won that fight, her power was just over the top. Some other would have an easier time fighting her, but with the main character's powers, it would be nearly impossible.

 

[VNON]

minyak oil
love this game
just got some error with flip flip something with image ig, when danica put cross on you, not game breaking and ignorable

 

[Zetsuko]

ART gets better when you advance the story, first characters that appear should be reworked a bit. The style is the same, but you can clearly see the art gets a bit better. It's not mind boggling, but I find it cute and I enjoy it quite a bit at the moment.

Story is the big thing here, tho; It's really interesting, and the characters are charming in their own way. There's some "average porn characters" around the place, but mostly, they're quite interesting and want to know a bit more about them. I could easily see an actual TV show with this setting or one similar.

Also, NTR is barely there, it's a secondary quest, and you don't even need to "accept it", you can just VERY CLEARLY avoid it with one decission, and from there on there's no more NTR at all.

Please everyone, I personally dislike NTR in games too but stop being crybabies about it, at least get some info first, cause most developers nowadays give you a way to entirely avoid it.

 

[Zetsuko]

Yeah, I did notice this as well.
Some fullscreen art later on looks pretty good.
And sprites like the policewomen/hooker (probably one of the first characters drawn and never reworked) standing next to her more realistic-looking boss (who appears later in the story) almost looks like 2 clashing artstyles.

Yeah, that's a perfect example, the policewoman actually looks bad in comparison to most of the new characters, or just their redesigns. Creator should make a small sweep and go around reworking some characters a bit, some look a bit wonky still and it's quite dissonant when you see them next to eachother.

 

[mrttao]

Jake's power requires that you hear him or that he touch you. So everyone who can't hear him is immune. Also, his orders must not be too against the will of the person, otherwise he will defend himself. Even an ordinary person was too much for him (Mia) when he wanted to go straight against her mind.

Mia did not resisting his mind control orders, rather he was not using that power on her. He could have but chose not to because of their friendship.

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[Edvin]

As for what happened in the end, he was trying to perform a delicate procedure on her of manually rewriting memories (more difficult than just giving orders or the various automatic procedures) and due to the emotional duress of doing it to mia specifically triggered his levelup to level 2 midway through. Causing him to go out of control and give her brain damage.

You give him too much credit.
He just wanted to suppress all memories of Ella.
It's the same as suppressing everyone else's memories that he was fat.

But it has been said several times that Mia is extremely intelligent (genius), had a strong will, and was aware of exactly what he was doing to her. As a result, her resistance was much greater, forcing Jake to use much more power, which brought him to the limits of his abilities. If you remember, Ella later told him (in hospital) that if he tried something like that on superhuman or a monster, it could kill him. This is also the reason why all his commands are subtle and he does not try to get people to do things that no one will could force them to do.

Relatively similar things apply to real-world hypnosis.
You can make a man bark like a dog, but you can't make him take a knife and cut his neck.
Your subconscious protects you from things you would never do.

 

[mrttao]

If you remember, Ella later told him (in hospital) that if he tried something like that on superhuman or a monster, it could kill him

She explicitly noted that this is only if the superhuman is stronger than him and has more energy. It forces a direct clash of power that is determined by raw energy.
IIRC she also mentioned ordinary humans are not an issue.

You give him too much credit.

hmm, your explanation sounds plausible. not sure which of the proposed explanations is right though.

 

[Edvin]

And if she really was a genius she probably would have had sex with MC by now, instead of having an entirely platonic non-NTR relationship with a fat guy that drinks toilet water and assaults little girls.

If the willingness to have sex with MC is a measure of intelligence, practically only the geniuses live on campus

My guess is that Deryl was caught unprepared and during the changes in Mia's memories, Jake was unfocused.
In addition, intelligence is not always a measure of strong will. I think Mia is significantly superior to Deryl in this regard.