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Krytax123

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These are all nothing but hyperbolic presumptions and scaremongering. Mind control and/or elimination of few top people in charge doesn't necessarily need to be messy. Additionally, this is something people in charge have been doing already and for years if not decades, so what's exactly different about Jake doing it, that'd makes him doing the same thing so pearl-clutching worse?
Dude what? At least there are elections and stuff for the ministers, even when they are partially corrupted youre telling me a single guy with all the power isnt much worse?

You'll also need to elaborate on that last point. Why exactly do you think world with Jake in charge would be worse off than when controlled by people who run population-wide eugenics and consider you nothing but inferior cattle and tools, killed by thousands in their child games for supremacy? What do you think he'd even do that'd warrant this sort of statement?
Your do realise that H.E.R.O (which you seem to dislike) is now in charge of Jake and can use him for whatever they intend? Maybe this helps opening your eyes why he's so dangerous, he doesnt even have to be the top dog himself, others (like Ella or HERO) can use him too.

The comparison with other high-threat heros isnt really valid either, there powers are not as sneaky and nobody of them has authority and order. And we just never had the choice to kill the founders, deus or whoever as the mc was always weaker so its kinda a moot point to discuss.
 

Bleh21

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Because MC knew where Jack was and what he was doing.
Jack's strength is not in direct combat.



Because you know EXACTLY in which direction his abilities will develop during the next 3 evolutions?
You are really good. I thought only WeirdWorld knew these things.
Jake literally couldn't mind control the MC when he was at the same level lol.


I thought you knew since you know how dangerous Jake definitely is and how dangerous everyone else definitely isn't.

If we're going by "potential" then yeah lets kill literally every superhuman in the world. Especially the MC since he's def gonna turn intoa cthulu monster that eats the universe (i talk to ww directly).

But yeah i was the only one assuming things, my bad.
 
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IHC

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Jake literally couldn't mind control the MC when he was at the same level lol.


I thought you knew since you know how dangerous Jake definitely is and how dangerous everyone else definitely isn't.

If we're going by "potential" then yeah lets kill literally every superhuman in the world. Especially the MC since he's def gonna turn intoa cthulu monster that eats the universe (i talk to ww directly).

But yeah i was the only one assuming things, my bad.
assuming that you did talk with ww, could you ask him when the new update will be release?
 

Zero1994

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Queda por ver qué tipo de consecuencias da el autor a la hora de elegir matar o perdonar a cada enemigo.

I feel that a pure power route would imply a more powerful protagonist and a route of forgiving each one, a large cast of allies fighting as a team or great moral support (Nakama power).
 

Doom Marine

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assuming that you did talk with ww, could you ask him when the new update will be release?
Well about the update, according to what I saw on his Patreon "Post made on 10/29/23... ww, said he had to postpone the update for about a week". However, I don't know why the reason of warning is there, it's behind the Patreon paywall. Anyway, if this week from 11/05/23 onwards, then I don't know. because supposedly the patrons version was supposed to arrive this week. Then, you can wait another week to gain access to the public version, that is, if no charitable soul leaks the patrons' version early :KEK:

Correct me if I'm wrong, all I know is from the patreon message and some comments on Ichio.
 

JuAqe

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Jake literally couldn't mind control the MC when he was at the same level lol.


I thought you knew since you know how dangerous Jake definitely is and how dangerous everyone else definitely isn't.

If we're going by "potential" then yeah lets kill literally every superhuman in the world. Especially the MC since he's def gonna turn intoa cthulu monster that eats the universe (i talk to ww directly).

But yeah i was the only one assuming things, my bad.
Jake could and DID control the mc during their fight, it was made explicitly clear that he had to seal his own ear canals just to avoid hearing the orders. if deryl wasnt there, there was a very real possibility jake would have won the fight, it wouldve been unlikely, but still possible. Now, MC with his upgraded memory is a whole other story, but whats being discussed isnt raw mc vs jake, its the possibility of jake being a problem. Now, he wont be; Simply because hes weak minded and likely screwed up his evolution prospects, the story made it so that he cant be any sort of big threat. But people are discussing the choice at that very moment, whether or not its right to kill jake, and by all means "He's a threat" was a valid argument at that point and time when we all had no knowledge of future updates. Even now it is a valid argument, because anything could happen; but in my opinion its purely a matter of whether you like him or not. At this point in time he physically cannot challenge the mc, knowing that now its just "Do I like this guy enough to not turn him into power points?"
 
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Fanvor

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Hey, here it is at last, v0.97.

I kinda regret not splitting this one into two parts, cause this ended up being a long one. In the future, after v1.0, I think I'm gonna try to go back to making smaller, more frequent updates, as it benefits the patreon more and is probably less stressful overall. Not gonna start doing it now though, with only 2 updates before v1.0 comes around, I don't wanna mess with the plan, they'll just have to take however long they'll take and be ready whenever they're ready, but past v1.0, I'll prob try to go for smaller releases. Anyway, that's it. Enjoy the game, and let me know if you run into any problems. I'm gonna head to bed.

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ItzSyther

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Hey, here it is at last, v0.97.

I kinda regret not splitting this one into two parts, cause this ended up being a long one. In the future, after v1.0, I think I'm gonna try to go back to making smaller, more frequent updates, as it benefits the patreon more and is probably less stressful overall. Not gonna start doing it now though, with only 2 updates before v1.0 comes around, I don't wanna mess with the plan, they'll just have to take however long they'll take and be ready whenever they're ready, but past v1.0, I'll prob try to go for smaller releases. Anyway, that's it. Enjoy the game, and let me know if you run into any problems. I'm gonna head to bed.

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Hey, here it is at last, v0.97.

I kinda regret not splitting this one into two parts, cause this ended up being a long one. In the future, after v1.0, I think I'm gonna try to go back to making smaller, more frequent updates, as it benefits the patreon more and is probably less stressful overall. Not gonna start doing it now though, with only 2 updates before v1.0 comes around, I don't wanna mess with the plan, they'll just have to take however long they'll take and be ready whenever they're ready, but past v1.0, I'll prob try to go for smaller releases. Anyway, that's it. Enjoy the game, and let me know if you run into any problems. I'm gonna head to bed.

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Crys Heart

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Is there somewhere I can go to see more detailed changelogs? Would be nice to know what exactly has been added, which characters are involved, etc. etc.
 

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There's no way in hell he could take over without having to eliminate a great many people, both super and normal humans.
And why is that? Why would great number of many people give two shits which superhuman gets to be the top dog? Why would superhumans who get no shot at being one and have no dog in this race care? And why would a guy who, as mentioned upthread, already came pretty close to taking over without much notice, and who can literally control minds, have to kill great many people instead of taking control of these officially entitled to tell these people "simmer the fuck down, all is fine."?

"People in charge" have been using mind control to usurp positions of power for years, if not decades... Wtf??? :LOL:
This is disappointing lack of reading comprehension. The context was pretty clear. It was in response to your statement:
he'd have to be able to either control them or eliminate [...] literally anyone and everyone who opposes or takes exception to his actions.
Are you under illusion that HERO was put in their current position through a process of some public, democratic elections? Do you think HERO and those in public positions who enabled them haven't been working to control or eliminate in one way or another "anyone who opposes them or takes exception to their actions"? Because this is what they're doing right now with their opposition that is SIN. Ask yourself, why there's no prior public opposition or even knowledge of their existence, although they've been operating literally for decades?

Getting to that point, assuming he somehow circumvents/avoids inevitable failsafes and killswitches, would have taken so long and he'd have had to do many things just as cruel, ruthless and underhanded as those he replaces. Not even the best intentioned person would be same at that point. Everything he'd done, he'd have to keep doing those things, and on a scale that would either have to be absolute control, or control of the ones left and giving orders, and all by some miracle never being exposed during his reign, for fear of being overthrown himself.
Speaking of fear of being overthrown, that's a realistic fear that he'd have to live with, be vigilant for, and actively ensure it can't happen by whatever means necessary. That just leads again to absolute control, which isn't doing better than the ones already in power, because it just leads to suffering, death, revolutions and more death.
Every single thing you attribute to Jake -- the illegal gain of power and constant fear/vigilance to maintain it and not to be outed -- can be already put squarely at feet of HERO. They are currently in the same position you say he'd be in. And they're already doing things you say he'd do. Heck, some of their members openly advocate this need for "absolute control" of human population by whatever means necessary, and the only reason it's not happening yet is because some other of their members are slightly more reluctant to get onboard with it.

So am sorry, but i really don't see why you're so vehemently opposed to one dude who might do something a bunch of other dudes have been doing already for a long, long time. And without even a peep how they all too deserve to be killed for it, because they're too much of a threat to wellbeing of the world.

Dude what? At least there are elections and stuff for the ministers, even when they are partially corrupted youre telling me a single guy with all the power isnt much worse?
Please, remind me, what elections were there for HERO to be put in charge of worldwide eugenics program? Or to have any power at all?

It's already a handful of level 5 guys running the show pretty much as they please. And at least a couple of them are way more callous about it than this single guy who might potentially replace them. But nooo, we're going to draw the line at this one guy and kill him "just in case".

Your do realise that H.E.R.O (which you seem to dislike) is now in charge of Jake and can use him for whatever they intend?
I don't particularly dislike HERO. I just similarly don't dislike Jake, and maybe this makes it a little easier to see apparent double standards being applied here.
 

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And why is that? Why would great number of many people give two shits which superhuman gets to be the top dog?
For the same reasons people care about that kind of thing in the real world. How it'll affect them.
That includes other superhumans.

I don't particularly dislike HERO. I just similarly don't dislike Jake, and maybe this makes it a little easier to see apparent double standards being applied here.
Double standards???
Be a dear and elucidate precisely what double standards are being applied by me here, particularly when I've given in depth and rational reasoning for what I've said, and so far your only point is "well H.E.R.O. is bad but Jake couldn't be any worse" and you haven't even provided any reasoning to support your assertion.

When doing so, make sure you've gone back and looked at my response to your Batman vs Superman example in its entirety.
That post makes the majority of what you've said, and what you've poorly tried to paint my words as meaning, entirely irrelevant... Here's a hint, I do not speak highly of H.E.R.O.
In fact, you've repeated what I said about them several times now. You'd remember that if you weren't being so disingenuous in your statements.
 
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