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alkeera

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She made little Ella before she gave the MC the pill on his birthday, so she was still level 4 when she made her.
Just noticed. For some reason Doll doesn't seem to know or remember MC but Ella knows him from long ago. It appears to me that Ella tried to conceal existence of MC or protect him in case some third party finds and wakes up the Doll. Or the Doll is lying.
 

Edaltar

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Just noticed. For some reason Doll doesn't seem to know or remember MC but Ella knows him from long ago. It appears to me that Ella tried to conceal existence of MC or protect him in case some third party finds and wakes up the Doll. Or the Doll is lying.
The Doll just didn't recognize MC on first sight (especially since his body's radically different after becoming a superhuman). When the MC tells Ella his name, she's surprised for a second before smiling and saying "good, that's good".
 

FrapFappers

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The Doll just didn't recognize MC on first sight (especially since his body's radically different after becoming a superhuman). When the MC tells Ella his name, she's surprised for a second before smiling and saying "good, that's good".
Keep in mind that Ella "knew" us before we met at the start of the game, probably a bit before that. So she probably had her eye on us and scouted us out previously before the events of the main game.
 

alkeera

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The Doll just didn't recognize MC on first sight (especially since his body's radically different after becoming a superhuman). When the MC tells Ella his name, she's surprised for a second before smiling and saying "good, that's good".
Yeah. I checked the script once more and the Doll definitely recognized MC's name. She is fucking with him again.
 

Zeca Suez

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Lil Ella is an interesting little wild card that the MC has in his pocket. I wonder if she is with him when he goes out to set the trap for Esheth, though it is unlikely that Lil Ella will just pop out and say hi to Shen in the middle of his little mind battle with the MC.

So far Lil Ella has not clearly revealed if she also has the similar powers as the actual Ella... wonder if down the line MC would have to help her sort of reactivate her powers in doll form. Or maybe she is sticking close to the MC for the same reason.

Though the fact that she doesn't seem to be having much trouble traveling around even in and out of H.e.r.o. suggests she might still have some abilities.

Correct Ella was at Evo4 up until she infelterated HERO
Ah thank you. Yes I remember she stole the forced Evo serum from H.e.r.o. but I wasn't sure if that was for personal use or for research and replication. Maybe she had her S.i.n. people study it and develop their own version and used that to Evolve to 5. They do seem to have an abundance of monsters and hence raw materials.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Lil Ella is an interesting little wild card that the MC has in his pocket. I wonder if she is with him when he goes out to set the trap for Esheth, though it is unlikely that Lil Ella will just pop out and say hi to Shen in the middle of his little mind battle with the MC.

So far Lil Ella has not clearly revealed if she also has the similar powers as the actual Ella... wonder if down the line MC would have to help her sort of reactivate her powers in doll form. Or maybe she is sticking close to the MC for the same reason.

Though the fact that she doesn't seem to be having much trouble traveling around even in and out of H.e.r.o. suggests she might still have some abilities.


Ah thank you. Yes I remember she stole the forced Evo serum from H.e.r.o. but I wasn't sure if that was for personal use or for research and replication. Maybe she had her S.i.n. people study it and develop their own version and used that to Evolve to 5. They do seem to have an abundance of monsters and hence raw materials.
Ella's in your pocket during the Eisheth scene at the end of this update. She's verbally shocked to see Eisheth there when she arrived for the twins.
 

TerminusPrime

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Lil Ella is an interesting little wild card that the MC has in his pocket. I wonder if she is with him when he goes out to set the trap for Esheth, though it is unlikely that Lil Ella will just pop out and say hi to Shen in the middle of his little mind battle with the MC.

So far Lil Ella has not clearly revealed if she also has the similar powers as the actual Ella... wonder if down the line MC would have to help her sort of reactivate her powers in doll form. Or maybe she is sticking close to the MC for the same reason.

Though the fact that she doesn't seem to be having much trouble traveling around even in and out of H.e.r.o. suggests she might still have some abilities.


Ah thank you. Yes I remember she stole the forced Evo serum from H.e.r.o. but I wasn't sure if that was for personal use or for research and replication. Maybe she had her S.i.n. people study it and develop their own version and used that to Evolve to 5. They do seem to have an abundance of monsters and hence raw materials.
Ella used the serum she stole for her 5th evolution.
 
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FrapFappers

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Lil Ella is an interesting little wild card that the MC has in his pocket. I wonder if she is with him when he goes out to set the trap for Esheth, though it is unlikely that Lil Ella will just pop out and say hi to Shen in the middle of his little mind battle with the MC.

So far Lil Ella has not clearly revealed if she also has the similar powers as the actual Ella... wonder if down the line MC would have to help her sort of reactivate her powers in doll form. Or maybe she is sticking close to the MC for the same reason.

Though the fact that she doesn't seem to be having much trouble traveling around even in and out of H.e.r.o. suggests she might still have some abilities.


Ah thank you. Yes I remember she stole the forced Evo serum from H.e.r.o. but I wasn't sure if that was for personal use or for research and replication. Maybe she had her S.i.n. people study it and develop their own version and used that to Evolve to 5. They do seem to have an abundance of monsters and hence raw materials.
I'd be more interested in what kind of scene would occur if we bright lil Ella into the room of dead big Ella, perhaps get a couple of separate scenes and touch moments
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. Perhaps they can merge or be combined/reabsorbed? Only thing I seriously do not want is a nearly fully restored Ella running lose on HERO base and potentially releasing all the Monster Prisoners. I do not want to deal with that headache or aftermath or the blame.


Also, there was a scene of Ella Using the EvoSerum and becoming Lv.5 after escaping HERO base and nearly killing Jake with her Aura, then killing a hero agent and making the girl agent duel Jake.
 

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I'd be more interested in what kind of scene would occur if we bright lil Ella into the room of dead big Ella, perhaps get a couple of separate scenes and touch moments
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. Perhaps they can merge or be combined/reabsorbed? Only thing I seriously do not want is a nearly fully restored Ella running lose on HERO base and potentially releasing all the Monster Prisoners. I do not want to deal with that headache or aftermath or the blame.


Also, there was a scene of Ella Using the EvoSerum and becoming Lv.5 after escaping HERO base and nearly killing Jake with her Aura, then killing a hero agent and making the girl agent duel Jake.
I guess that when the doll reunites with the main body whatever substance that reactivated the doll will go into Ella's dead body to revive her and the doll will be lifeless again afterwards, and probably things will go to hell inside the HERO HQ regardless if you warn the captains or not about the Ella doll. I imagine that if you do not the MC will have a bad time and more dire consequences to both himself and HERO in general.
 

Lautheron

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There is something really weird about his mom and dad for sure. His pops has always been a mysterious weirdo, popping in and out of MC's life repeatedly. and his mom is very "interesting" far from normal... maybe it is all that hair covering her eyes, gives her that protagonist aura. It is an interesting idea indeed.

But wouldn't Ella have recognized him then when she met the MC the night before the beginning of the game ? Back then MC almost looked like a damn kid himself. he could not have changed too much from when she was supposed to know him from before.
Unless Ella herself has issues with her own memories aswell. I guess It is possible they both knew each other and then kind of just lost their memories. For Ella it could be related to all those evolutions.

Maybe the younger Ella was much more prone to losing herself to her powers, maybe there were multiple incidents where she went from human sentient-hybrid to monster ... possibly Xanthe Jr. or someone else perhaps one of her monster friends helped her return to being self-aware and not just a growling biting beast with super-powers. Or she flipped back from monster to human purely out of will and circumstance... She was the first Superhuman to be out and about in the world mingling with the muggles without the sterile and meticulous supervision of Xanthe and the team leaders of H.e.r.o. or well... the only one I can think of atleast.
I believe Ella is just rotten to do the core, and remembers stuff only she wishes to. She tries to create a memory lane where she is right, but evidence suggest what she does is butchering people.
 
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Nisselue

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When playing the new update I was happy to see the pink demon lady make an appearance,
I remembered her from when Alice punched a hole in Hexenringes dimension and we saw all those monsters.

I remembered thinking I was going to collect them all and save them from H.E.R.O. Can't have H.E.R.O kill all
the pretty pink big boobed demon ladies.

When playing the new update and finding out how powerful a single demon lady is i was thinking it would be fun to have
several of them as my personal bodyguards, after all i am a big shot superhero.
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But i was also kinda curious considering it seemed like WeirdWorld was making it into a special monster, so i went back to
the invasion scene again.

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As you can see we went from 10 big boobed demonesses to one Eisheth. :cry:
 

Nisselue

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But they are not all Eisheth. Eisheth is a unique M66 type monster that is especially ancient and powerful. Regular M66 are strong but not S Class powerful.

There are plenty of other M66s and they look like Eisheth
I know they are not all Eisheth, i just found it weird that WeirdWorld went back to the invasion scene and removed
all the other M66's.

Since he left 2 other M66's in the new invasion scene with those 2 tail things cut off maybe only Eisheth has those tails?

Still, I mostly posted it since i found it interesting that WW removed them from the invasion scene.
 
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When playing the new update I was happy to see the pink demon lady make an appearance,
I remembered her from when Alice punched a hole in Hexenringes dimension and we saw all those monsters.

I remembered thinking I was going to collect them all and save them from H.E.R.O. Can't have H.E.R.O kill all
the pretty pink big boobed demon ladies.

When playing the new update and finding out how powerful a single demon lady is i was thinking it would be fun to have
several of them as my personal bodyguards, after all i am a big shot superhero.
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But i was also kinda curious considering it seemed like WeirdWorld was making it into a special monster, so i went back to
the invasion scene again.

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As you can see we went from 10 big boobed demonesses to one Eisheth. :cry:
I WANT MY HAREM OF BIG-TITTIED PINK MONSTER GOTH LADIES WITH WATERMELON-CRUSHING THIGHS!!!! NOW!!! :KEK:

Eisheth has been sneak-peaked twice on Patreon. I expected WeirdWorld to rework some things.

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The mom 100% is a monster descended from The Body. The night time story, the super hearing in the car, the lactation that went on for waaaay too long? It makes sense to me at least. If she is the body then The Mind would have to be the monster that infected MC, perhaps activating his latent monstrous side. This game makes me so fucking pumped about lore which is nuts considering it's a porn game.
 

KingAgamemnon

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Ok I'll try to explain the main gist. Do note that I'll make a lot of assumptions.

The basic premise is that MC gets 3~ times better at everything after evolving, by comparing level 1 and level 2. This is what happened:

Level 1 MC gains on average 0.33 (14/42) power per day.
The usual ranges to complete the level 1 story arc is 9-14 I think.
When MC evolves he becomes about 3 times as powerful as he used to be. (29-34 vs 9-14)

Level 2 MC gains on average 1.1 (66/58) power per day.
The usual ranges to complete the level 2 story arc is 90-115 power.
When MC evolves he again becomes about 3 times as powerful as he used to be (290-315 vs 90-115)

When 0.96 dropped, I calculated how many power points MC could get. These are the "power gains" data for 0.96
Days at level 3: 12
Gains:
10 - Nyx's Serum
10 - Fighting Asura
10 - Training 1
3 - Training 2
15 - Shopkeep

48 power points over 12 days. This means an improvement rate of 4, which is close enough to my premise.


From there on, there are two ways to proceed.

Possibility 1 - It will continue in a linear fashion:
The reason I don't like this possibility is because it means that MC will improve at 3.5~ power per day and reach around 900 total power, which will take him 170 in game days. This seems like too much time. I expect the game to barely last 250 ingame days

Possibility 2 - Normalize it somehow:
I've been thinking, if I take the level 2 data and divide them with the level 1 data, I will get some factors that I can apply to level 2 data to predict how level 3 will behave. If I do this, the power improvement rate stays similar. So I applied to anything that made sense, made some calculations and I quite liked what I saw.

So from the possibility 2, I predicted that MC will have a power improvement rate of 1.1 * (1.1/0.33) = 3.8~ per day and he will stay at level 3 for 58 * (58/42) = 80~ days. MC will finish this level with around 650-750 power and reach level 4 with about 2000 power.

I compared this progression to monster reports and some ingame dialogue (Asura power level, Lt Duncan's power in comparison to level 5s) and I like it a lot more than the linear one.



Considering that the general consensus is that the game is about half done, staying level 3 for 10 updates is acceptable. We have already gone through 3 of them and I expect the twin arc to last 3 more updates.

Additionally MC doesn't really have to stay long at level 4 thanks to the evolution serum so WW can jumpstart the endgame without too much hassle if he wants to.

Some more info:

The game started back in 2021-Feb-13 with
Level 1 and 2: 0.1. 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.65, 0.7, 0.75, 0.8, 0.85, 0.88, 0.9, 0.92, 0.94 and lastly 0.95 where MC evolves.
Level 3: 0.95, 0.96, 0.97

I think it's fair to assume that there is no way MC will evolve before 1.0. There exists some possibility that things will get nasty and MC will evolve at this point, but to me it feels a bit too rushed. MC hasn't even begun to explore his level 3 capabilities.

While WW's version numbers aren't consistent, the increments are smaller than they used to be, so I expect to see 0.98 and 0.99 before 1.0.
Really late reply, but I was thinking about this, and I remembered somewhere that the one Level 3 dude that got turned into a tree was on par with a Level 5 in terms of power, and that a sufficiently long-lasted Level 3 can match a Level 5 in about twenty years or so. Does that line up with either suggestion?
 

Epsilon66

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Really late reply, but I was thinking about this, and I remembered somewhere that the one Level 3 dude that got turned into a tree was on par with a Level 5 in terms of power, and that a sufficiently long-lasted Level 3 can match a Level 5 in about twenty years or so. Does that line up with either suggestion?
Slightly off. He was only on par with them in Physical power. His Supernatural power was much lower.
 
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