VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[sexoffended]

Yes, you can and they are consideres Gods, but the game already told us that there are other beings avobe of them

Currently Xanthe jr. is theorising that Apostles came either from Outer Twins separated into 6 entities each or 6 Arbiters split into twin pairs.

 

[Lucyel]

Perhaps i should try to clarify, when i said "God" i didn't mean based on a perspective from any religion/mithology from our world but instead according to the lore of the game.

So, yes in a sense all apostles are gods on the same way as some gods from phanteons ruled aspects of reality, like thunder, war etc. but on the superhuman world there are references to a being considered as "God".
Valravn mentions it's existence and how his master opposes it, Mc during his first evolition trance says "For god and Glory" as a dialogue option, Syla mentions how all apostles have bits and pieces of each other which indicates a commom origin and more important.
ALL APOSTLES IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS ONE ASPECT OF "GOD"
Authority as God's will, Memory as God's insight and etc, so why call themselves like that if they don't believe in an almighty god ? why consider themselves as aspects of a god instead of "the god of will" or "the goddes of insight" if such being doesn't exist ? .

If the "God" mentioned really exists then it's a being more powerfull then all of then, a creature capable of commanding all aspects of reality, not over single ones (apostles) or dual ones (arbiters).

It was especulated that the eye was an arbiter waiting to exist again but is that really the case ? after all they ARE know and have names and that's not the Eye's case.

I dont remember much, but in the conversations whit Aglaecwif (the monster guarding the Hexring before we fight monster Deryl) she implies that the arbiters dosnt exist in this realm anymore, maybe that wasnt by will, and them, or some of them are waiting for a way to reborn in this realm?

 

[Lucyel]

Even more thant that because Klauss wasnt really level 2 , he didnt have the real serum but "that defective crap", from what Nico said when she want the true serum to evolve to level 5 .
I dont understand why people underestimate Met so much, even Ella tell us that if it's possible for a level 1 to win against a level 2, it's almost impossible for a level 2 to win against a level 3 ...

DUUUUDE, I already forgot that Klaus use a trash serum, thx for rememberme that, yea it was maybe a 1.5 vs a 1. And for real, lvl2 means nothing to lvl3, at least in raw power, the outcome would depend on how they can use their powers.
I think Alice and Michel have a chance, mostly bcs they are two lvl2, and spawns of apostles

 

[Lucyel]

Apostle lineage doesn't matter much. If anything, all that power they enjoy is thoroughly compensated by difficulties with evolution. They are more powerful than anything on their level, but others are able to jump levels a lot easier.

Yes, maybe others can grow faster, but the game already show us how spawns of apostles can be a treat, they are more powerful than a normal superhuman at their lvl of evolution, so i dont think we can say it doesnt matter. Yet, i dont think they would win

 

[kibaris]

DUUUUDE, I already forgot that Klaus use a trash serum, thx for rememberme that, yea it was maybe a 1.5 vs a 1. And for real, lvl2 means nothing to lvl3, at least in raw power, the outcome would depend on how they can use their powers.
I think Alice and Michel have a chance, mostly bcs they are two lvl2, and spawns of apostles

They have their chance yes, Met will dominate this fight without much doubt, Michael can absorb Energy so he have a good matchup here, but it wont be enough , Mc at level 2 had a perfect matchup against Valravn (C+ which should have required at least a level 3), and even so it was a very complicated fight for him and he had to rest for a day and half after that ( an without is regeneration he would be long dead) but Michael have Alice , the question is what will do Rina, i would expect that she evolve to level 2 at least, if not she wont last long .

 

[Lucyel]

They have their chance yes, Met will dominate this fight without much doubt, Michael can absorb Energy so he have a good matchup here, but it wont be enough , Mc at level 2 had a perfect matchup against Valravn (C+ which should have required at least a level 3), and even so it was a very complicated fight for him and he had to rest for a day and half after that ( an without is regeneration he would be long dead) but Michael have Alice , the question is what will do Rina, i would expect that she evolve to level 2 at least, if not she wont last long .

Yea, the outcome of that fight rlly depends on the strategy Alice and Michel decide to use to compensate the lack of raw power they have against Met, if they dont find a way they are fuked

 

[JackDiabrew]

I rlly, REALLY, hope that he scape, so we can have a rematch when he is at his full power

I hope so too, and damn that cliffhanger was worse than the previous finished my main run now all that remains is skill only and full on corruption. What's the max power level for you guys? Mines at 484, also what's your predicted max power gonna be right before we hit level 4 evolution? On a side note Tanos gonna need to pay for that cliffhanger, I'm gonna rip out that implanted eye of his.

 

[Edvin]

I wonder if the dozen top original monsters exist in physical form...
Well, or more precisely, if they exist in physical form in our world.
After all, we know there are such things as other dimensions in this game.

But something tells me that it is not easy for a being of such power to cross into our world.
Maybe they need a spawn pure enough and strong enough to make it their avatar.
Someone whose body would be strong enough to withstand their presence.

Suddenly, the prospect of being the top pure alpha dog among superhumans is no longer so appealing.
It might not turn out well for us if we turn out to be the perfect host.

 

[kibaris]

I wonder if the dozen top original monsters exist in physical form...
Well, or more precisely, if they exist in physical form in our world.
After all, we know there are such things as other dimensions in this game.

They exist, but they need an avatar to manifest themself, for now they are in another plan the 2th appear and kill Michael after is fight, the 3th or the 4th mc after that Ella gave him a pill, the 7th to turn Valravn when he was just a raven (and kill the 4th, Ella and mc in dead end 3) and the 1th also manifested to jake when he take Ella's pill but we didnt see it directly)

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[Edvin]

They exist, the 2th appear and kill Michael after is fight, the 3th or the 4th mc after that Ella gave him a pill, the 7th to turn Valravn when he was just a raven (and kill the 4th, Ella and mc in dead end 3) and the 1th also manifested to jake when he take Ella's pill but we didnt see it directly)

You said it yourself.
"Manifested"

My original argument still stands.
I don't think they can exist on their own in this world, at least not for more than a little while.
I also don't believe you could find them hidden deep in some cave in Mexico.

I think they exist in some other dimension that is inaccessible to us (at least for now) and that they cannot just leave.
Superhumans are probably their plan to create the perfect body for permanent transfer to this reality.

EDIT:
We have continued this conversation privately and we have the same opinion.

 

[ProgessiveDetailed]

I wonder if the dozen top original monsters exist in physical form...
Well, or more precisely, if they exist in physical form in our world.
After all, we know there are such things as other dimensions in this game.

But something tells me that it is not easy for a being of such power to cross into our world.
Maybe they need a spawn pure enough and strong enough to make it their avatar.
Someone whose body would be strong enough to withstand their presence.

Suddenly, the prospect of being the top pure alpha dog among superhumans is no longer so appealing.
It might not turn out well for us if we turn out to be the perfect host.

there is no dozen original monster unless you talking about the likes of valravn and aglaecwif as well as the other chosen.

 

[JoeSlace]

Any guesses in why Bernhard is so strong?

 

[DidNothingWrong]

Any guesses in why Bernhard is so strong?

Going all they way to evo 5 natural way and being superhuman for more than 50 years.

 

[troglodyte]

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[kibaris]

Any guesses in why Bernhard is so strong?

a very good question,

We can rule out the parent monster because Malik who rivals Bernhardt is almost as strong and the monster who turned him was a c-rank.
We also know that even before he reached level 5, he was already absurdly strong, since it's mentioned that he was already stronger than Elijah and Kira level 5 even before he reached it himself.



Eiseth mentions that this is not natural.
Ella could drain power from Valravnh through some ritual, maybe that's part of the explanation since he has the highest S-rank kill count, but how would he have access to that kind of knowledge?

Bramon can give a monster heart to mc to copy it because it's close, maybe rather than just copying, he has done experiments on the M division and they are biologically partialy monster?

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[Ddlc]

a very good question,

We can rule out the parent monster because Malik who rivals Bernhardt is almost as strong and the monster who turned him was a c-rank.
We also know that even before he reached level 5, he was already absurdly strong, since it's mentioned that he was already stronger than Elijah and Kira level 5 even before he reached it himself.



Eiseth mentions that this is not natural.
Ella could drain power from Valravnh through some ritual, maybe that's part of the explanation since he has the highest S-rank kill count, but how would he have access to that kind of knowledge?

Bramon can give a monster heart to mc to copy it because it's close, maybe rather than just copying, he has done experiments on the M division and they are biologically partialy monster?

Maybe it has to do with the natural 5th evolution ? i think Bernhardt, Malik and Henri are the only ones who naturally evolved and some people think that it is a pretty big deal, Ella said that the 5th evolution is when you are ready for the purpose monsters have for you but many spend years at their 4th (her included) and never reach the next level.

And from what we know about Bernhardt he HATES monsters, not sure if he would ever agree to become part monster even to be more powerfull, plus Mc is capable of rebuilding parts of his body with monster parts thanks to his shapeshifiting, Bramon helps him with that mentioning how Ella did the same, so maybe that is something only possible for shapeshifters.

 

[Gtdead]

The most significant bits of information we have about Bernhardt are these:
1. Henri says that he is of a different breed.
2. He evolved naturally to level 5.
3. Eisheth believes he is not normal.

Now let's analyze:

1. I find it extremely unlikely that 3 friends managed to reach the heighs of Superhuman power without some special cricumstances. Henri, Malik and Bernhardt have way too many things going for them. This can't be a coincidence. I think there may be an answer to be found by looking at why Nyx, Zack and Lucius are not like them despite being active for a similar amount of time.

2. Bramon says that in order to evolve to level 5, one has to meet some requirements. So since the 3 friends are the only ones who evolved naturally, they are also the only ones who have ever met requirements in the entirety of the human history. Perhaps meeting those requirements makes the Superhuman significantly stronger, aside from evolving.

3. Eisheth is a very unreliable source of information. Despite her knowledge, Superhumans are recent, the oldest being less than a century old. So she can't possibly know what is normal for them. The best we can take from this is that Bernhardt is at least as powerful as the strongest Chosen (probably more). Superhumans are genetically different than the rest of the monsters. We don't know the extend of their differences, but they can't infect and they can evolve.

One last bit that I want to mention is Henri. If you discuss evolutions with him, he says three important things:
- His quick evolution is the reason why he dresses like a clown.
- It's possible to lose control of your powers (could refer to monsterfication, but why would he be cryptic about a common phenomenon?)
- Evolution is not what is cracked up to be.

Bernhardt, Malik and Henri are the most distinct of all the Superhumans.
- Bernhardt is always levitating, air flows around him and he looks fairly old for his circumstances.
- Malik is covered in tattoos and he makes a lot of demonological references.
- Henri dresses like a clown.

Perhaps these things are part of meeting the requirements. Perhaps they have to accept their power in a certain way. Allow their powers to take control of themselves and reach a certain "connection" or "understanding".

 

[Bombmaster]

The most significant bits of information we have about Bernhardt are these:
1. Henri says that he is of a different breed.
2. He evolved naturally to level 5.
3. Eisheth believes he is not normal.

Now let's analyze:

1. I find it extremely unlikely that 3 friends managed to reach the heighs of Superhuman power without some special cricumstances. Henri, Malik and Bernhardt have way too many things going for them. This can't be a coincidence. I think there may be an answer to be found by looking at why Nyx, Zack and Lucius are not like them despite being active for a similar amount of time.

2. Bramon says that in order to evolve to level 5, one has to meet some requirements. So since the 3 friends are the only ones who evolved naturally, they are also the only ones who have ever met requirements in the entirety of the human history. Perhaps meeting those requirements makes the Superhuman significantly stronger, aside from evolving.

3. Eisheth is a very unreliable source of information. Despite her knowledge, Superhumans are recent, the oldest being less than a century old. So she can't possibly know what is normal for them. The best we can take from this is that Bernhardt is at least as powerful as the strongest Chosen (probably more). Superhumans are genetically different than the rest of the monsters. We don't know the extend of their differences, but they can't infect and they can evolve.

One last bit that I want to mention is Henri. If you discuss evolutions with him, he says three important things:
- His quick evolution is the reason why he dresses like a clown.
- It's possible to lose control of your powers (could refer to monsterfication, but why would he be cryptic about a common phenomenon?)
- Evolution is not what is cracked up to be.

Bernhardt, Malik and Henri are the most distinct of all the Superhumans.
- Bernhardt is always levitating, air flows around him and he looks fairly old for his circumstances.
- Malik is covered in tattoos and he makes a lot of demonological references.
- Henri dresses like a clown.

Perhaps these things are part of meeting the requirements. Perhaps they have to accept their power in a certain way. Allow their powers to take control of themselves and reach a certain "connection" or "understanding".

All in into eight grade syndrome to unlock godly powers is a joke inside a joke. Brilliant.

 

[Lucyel]

I wonder if the dozen top original monsters exist in physical form...
Well, or more precisely, if they exist in physical form in our world.
After all, we know there are such things as other dimensions in this game.

But something tells me that it is not easy for a being of such power to cross into our world.
Maybe they need a spawn pure enough and strong enough to make it their avatar.
Someone whose body would be strong enough to withstand their presence.

Suddenly, the prospect of being the top pure alpha dog among superhumans is no longer so appealing.
It might not turn out well for us if we turn out to be the perfect host.

I doubt the apostles have that kind of problem, if someone should have a problem like that should be the arbiters, and thats probably the reason we dont see them in the game yet. Besides, from Syla we get to know that the 4th, Memory, is actively working in who knows what in the human world.
Probably the reason for them to no show up more than what they do, is bcs they dont feel like they need to, remember that they are considered Gods amon their kind, and normaly gods arent that active in histories

 

[DidNothingWrong]

Bernhardt are these:
1. Henri says that he is of a different breed

Henri meant both of them, him and Bernhardt. Most likely Malik as well.