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Gtdead

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Never really understood the whole purity desire, like straight up NTR is shit as always easy to understand hating but i've never got this perspective on things. It has honestly never bothered me in the slightest.
For me it depends on the game. For example these harem games about an overachiever who is obviously miles ahead of the rest of the losers, support the virginity fetish very well. Why bother with a bunch of sketchy whores who fraternize with losers, when you can instead have a bunch of virgins to shape into your perfect wives.

Of course this game completely inverts the trope (and it's not even a true harem game, even if it teases it). MC, while having some merits, is WAY out of his depth.
Deryl is a genius.
The college he goes to is the most prestigious in this world, full of attractive overachievers.
MC has to prove himself before attracting the attention of others and he starts out as a bottom feeder without any obvious strong point.
In addition he has to overcome his own inferiority complex and while he adapts fairly fast, he still has to go through the process.

So even if I like corrupting virgins, I don't really care in this game and I feel that it would defeat the point if that element was too prevalent. Having one or two of them to play with is fine (like Claudia and Mia) but the worldbuilding works way better if that's not the majority.

I can understand the other viewpoint though. It's a power fantasy after all. Making the reader feel good is part of the deal so asking for it isn't odd in any shape of form.
 

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I'm just gonna put my 2 cents here. I was thinking about the whole theory that MC has some monster genes from his mother and i found something interesting. In one of the dead ends, specifically in:
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Simpgor

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As for Ella, I look at it as mutual masturbation with toys, Angelina however should have been implemented as an option. Of course all this does is determine how many relationship points you get with Jake, so I don't really mind.
Ella uses her shapshifting powers to create another vagina that is not only connected to her physically but that she also feels sensations from. If that counts as "with toys" then so does the intial monster attack because mommy uses her shape-shifting on MC dick to change it from close to the blondes friend size to "13 inches" which technically means everything is "with toys" :HideThePain:

I never cared much about the virginity (beyond getting them sweet sweet Jake points) and it's pretty apparent that a post transformation MC can be pretty aloof about it too saying stuff like "i guess its about time I lost my dude virginity" :KEK:


On the most recent update: I'm still on team ella regardless she would have apporved of the younger xanthes "extra" procedure or """"accidentally""'not using enough anaesthetic and from a narrative sense its nice that im FINALLY starting to feel tiny fraction of conflict about it really interested to see how other regulars react to both parts of the spoiler.
 

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I'm just gonna put my 2 cents here. I was thinking about the whole theory that MC has some monster genes from his mother and i found something interesting. In one of the dead ends, specifically in:
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No, by 'beginning' she just means since he was infected (MC says it was the first ability he used, and he's not referring to before his rebirth as a superhuman). There's currently no reason to think MC had the memory trait before he was infected, and definitely no reason for Ella to think that.
 

Dipasimaan

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Yeah pretty much ruins the fun of the sex scenes. All that effort to get into the pants of these girls, and it's futile in the long run.

Add to that that the mc is a virgin when he starts and the three people you can (are forced to) loose your virginity to are Liz or Christie who more than likely have a body count in the hundreds.

Liz rejects you only to admit later that she should not have after you get your powers (which is kind of an insult when you think about it).
The old if I wasn't good enough for you at my worst, you are not good enough for me at my best.

The third way to loose your virginity is with Bailey, yay necrophilia with an undead slut.
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No, by 'beginning' she just means since he was infected (MC says it was the first ability he used, and he's not referring to before his rebirth as a superhuman). There's currently no reason to think MC had the memory trait before he was infected, and definitely no reason for Ella to think that.
We know that he was affected by memory powers before turning superhuman given all the missing parts of his memory, but HAVING them before is a totally different matter.

We can assume that either :
1. If Syla was a superhuman he had a good compatibility with the memory trait thanks to her genes also being compatible.
2. If Syla was a monster he had monster genes thanks to being a monster/human hybrid.

I just had a theory:
Syla insists all the time that she is just a regular human, but also "a little more than that", could it be that she is a monster/human hibrid who was born human and then turned superhuman ??? I don't know if it's possible or if there is any advantage to that, maybe monster genes being already on someone's DNA makes a difference when the person is infected ? :unsure:
 

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We know that he was affected by memory powers before turning superhuman given all the missing parts of his memory, but HAVING them before is a totally different matter.

We can assume that either :
1. If Syla was a superhuman he had a good compatibility with the memory trait thanks to her genes also being compatible.
2. If Syla was a monster he had monster genes thanks to being a monster/human hybrid.

I just had a theory:
Syla insists all the time that she is just a regular human, but also "a little more than that", could it be that she is a monster/human hibrid who was born human and then turned superhuman ??? I don't know if it's possible or if there is any advantage to that, maybe monster genes being already on someone's DNA makes a difference when the person is infected ? :unsure:
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harem.king

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I'll just throw this out without any motivations
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To be fair this game muddies the water by having you impregnate some monster-girls.
and giving only an in game explanation on t he lack of pregnancy (which has potential workarounds), rather than an out of game one (dev says "I don't wanna").
Without those two points we probably never would have had any pregnancy debates here

As for "not every game needs a pregnancy ending"
... now that is crazy talk. that is like saying "not every porn game needs sex".
 

Gtdead

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Ella uses her shapshifting powers to create another vagina that is not only connected to her physically but that she also feels sensations from. If that counts as "with toys" then so does the intial monster attack because mommy uses her shape-shifting on MC dick to change it from close to the blondes friend size to "13 inches" which technically means everything is "with toys" :HideThePain:
Doesn't matter to me if the supernatural being can feel the sensations in their genitals or not. It's a tentacle dildo and a tentacle fleshlight. These are toys and to me the scene is play. I have a certain definition which differentiates sex and play. Otherwise, with enough imagination, anything can be sex.

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Without spoiling anything, I'll say that the pink one is the fan favorite for a good reason. Practically nothing changes except for some dialogue to reflect your choice and the infection scene, but for the theorists in the forum these changes are enough to make things a bit more kinky. It's all in our heads though.
 
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Doesn't matter to me if the supernatural being can feel the sensations in their genitals or not. It's a tentacle dildo and a tentacle fleshlight. These are toys and to me the scene is play. I have a certain definition which differentiates sex and play. Otherwise, with enough imagination, anything can be sex.
No i mean that MC had his dick changed the same way ella changes her hair to a pussy both in multiple scenes that go way beyond just increasing its size and in the lore its not the same size as og body so by your definition MCs dick should be a toy? What diffrence is a shapeshifted dick vs a shapeshifted pussy for you to be able to conisder MC capable of sex? Is it really just the placement? :KEK:
 
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No i mean that MC had his dick changed the same way ella changes her hair to a pussy both in multiple scenes that go way beyond just increasing its size and in the lore its not the same size so by your definition MCs dick should be a toy? What diffrence is a shapeshifted dick vs a shapeshifted pussy for you to be able to conisder MC capable of sex? Is it really just the placement? :KEK:
It takes some serious mental gymnastics to reach this conclusion ^^. I'm not sure how you can find similarities in changing the size of a body part and creating a new bodypart.

So let me make my opinion as simple as possible: Tentacles are not dicks or pussies. They are tentacles and I consider them similar to toys. I don't care about narrative elements, I don't care about supernatural mechanics. To consider it sex and not "play" or a "job", the dick, which is that phallic bodypart a male (or a futa and trans I guess, to be inclusive) has between his legs, has to penetrate the partner from a hole between the legs.

If for some reason the beings don't have legs, the dick and the holes need to be in a similar position on the body, although I generally avoid this kind of content.
If for some reason the beings can somehow alter the size of the dick, it remains a dick.
Don't ask me about lesbian content. Not interested in exploring rubbing fleshlight tentacles and this isn't sex ed 101.
 
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Fjeifcd

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On impregnation:

The game is barely halfway and it has teased pregnancy a lot. Don't discount it yet. Even your average slice of life harem game takes a while to get started on pregnancy talk. This is an action packed story about evolution and divinity and has the potential to elevate the concept of pregnancy. I really don't want to go into the reasons why pregnancy isn't out of the table yet and I don't mean just MC impregnating monsters, I mean the whole package. It has been discussed to death.

On MC's choices to lose his virginity:

I have to agree that the options to lose his virginity aren't very satisfying. In fact I think that it may have alienated some of the playerbase in the past.

As far as I recall, this is the order that the various sex scenes were implemented:
  1. Memory Blowjob
  2. Blowing Jared as Amber
  3. Transforming into Emily and playing with tentacles.
  4. Sex with Ella (deadend)
  5. FMC with Tess
  6. Christie Titjob
  7. Foursome with Tess and the 2 random black guys before fighting Kenny
  8. Sex with Kenny's zombies (deadend)
  9. Sex with Minyak (deadend)
  10. Demi's blowjob
  11. Angelina's Blowjob
  12. Emily's handjob
  13. FMC with Tess
  14. Alice Dream Sex
  15. Bailey

So Bailey was the first normal sex scene implemented.
Of these 15
- 3 were FMC.
- 2 were MC transforming into girls.
- 3 Deadends
- 1 Dream sex
- 5 Blowjobs/Handjobs
- 1 normal sex where MC finally loses his "dude" virginity

I mean, it got annoying really fast. All the good stuff was with FMC, the normal sex scenes were either deadends or dreams and everything else was foreplay. We really couldn't tell how the game would continue down the line and it's not like the scenes themselves are that good.

It was an exercise in frustration.

I really don't mind Liz and Christie being promiscuous. I'm perfectly satisfied with being their "last", although in Christie's case, while I expect it, I don't really know if that's the case. My problem is how "boring" these scenes are compared to both the FMC and the Deadend scenes.
Any chance on mc becoming pregnant?
 
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