VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[KKStrider]

As far as I could tell, we've never actually seen someone dispel Shen's illusions other than the forced dream state. The only exception to this appears to be whatever Eisheth did to Shen back during the S.I.N. infiltration via her own powers allowing reality manipulation.

Elijah never even attempted to dispel Shen's illusions, nor did he at any point ever get close to doing so. I'm not even certain they can be dispelled without specific powers or Shen personally doing it. The flickering that resulted in Elijah noticing they were illusions was likely a failure on Shen's part caused by Elijah turning around at an unexpected time, not Elijah dissipating them or overcoming them. It's absolutely true he was acting emotional and failed to use his ability to sense Monster Power properly during the fight, but I strongly doubt that had any effect on the strength of the illusions, just his ability to discern what was hidden behind them.

 

[Gtdead]

Great analysis. You suspect Demi has lieage of 10th, and very significant one, based on object interaction.
I also think that Demi is mixed, but inclusions are minor because everything aside from anchored attraction is in my opinion explained fully by Authority.

I suspect that this minor lineage is Light. Tiffany's light was described as refreshing, calming and magnetic. We also have Angelina, presumed 3rd + 8th who can make milk with universally attractive aroma. This makes me think that this is the key behind focus on visuals and attraction.

The Light idea for Demi is the one I supported a few months back. Truthfully I didn't like it that much because it's something that Tiffany doesn't really seem capable of doing, but at this point it was the best I could do and scientifically it fits.

My general dislike of that idea and the difficulty I have in applying it to Shen's power is part of why I like the prospect of the 10th being about Illusions. It's also a logical counterpart to Truth, even if not exactly perfect.

 

[sexoffended]

As far as I could tell, we've never actually seen someone dispel Shen's illusions other than the forced dream state. The only exception to this appears to be whatever Eisheth did to Shen back during the S.I.N. infiltration via her own powers allowing reality manipulation.

Elijah never even attempted to dispel Shen's illusions, nor did he at any point ever get close to doing so. I'm not even certain they can be dispelled without specific powers or Shen personally doing it. The flickering that resulted in Elijah noticing they were illusions was likely a failure on Shen's part caused by Elijah turning around at an unexpected time, not Elijah dissipating them or overcoming them. It's absolutely true he was acting emotional and failed to use his ability to sense Monster Power properly during the fight, but I strongly doubt that had any effect on the strength of the illusions, just his ability to discern what was hidden behind them.

Elijah started seeing Argils through the illusion once he realised what was happening. And Authority gets more powerful after each success. That's partially why Shen started shit-talking and biding time.

 

[sexoffended]

The Light idea for Demi is the one I supported a few months back. Truthfully I didn't like it that much because it's something that Tiffany doesn't really seem capable of doing, but at this point it was the best I could do and scientifically it fits.

My general dislike of that idea and the difficulty I have in applying it to Shen's power is part of why I like the prospect of the 10th being about Illusions. It's also a logical counterpart to Truth, even if not exactly perfect.

I find Charlie's and Shopkeep's ability to manipulate beings and events who've overstepped certain predefined limits (like deal or vow) anywhere a better antagonism for materialization/concept imposition over an area/object.

Theory of 10th being Illusion kinda streches over a bunch of stuff with better in my opinion explanation.

 

[Gtdead]

1+2: Your assumption is that choice A even exists.

3. Assumptions leading to an interesting theory. We know little to nothing about the differences between "mixes" and pure lineages. We really do not even know exactly what constitutes "pure" and "not pure".

4. "Mind control affects people differently based on their current state and overall mentality."
Do I even need to say it?
Also Jake, and in your theory's case Shen's, power isn't actually mind control, its authority. As I said before different words have different meanings and implications. Jake's authority can be applied to control minds, but that doesn't mean that is what defines authorities full capabilities and origin.

This is very true. Jake can also empower people to perform various tasks. He can ask people to heal, to give their all to complete a task. These are examples we can observe in game. In fact I'm starting to think that Authority is one of the best traits for buffing and empowering the masses.

The Authority trait makes someone the ultimate leader. What happens if someone who has great affinity for leadership inherits that trait? What if someone's will happens anyway, without the use of the trait?

 

[KKStrider]

Elijah started seeing Argils through the illusion once he realised what was happening. And Authority gets more powerful after each success. That's partially why Shen started shit-talking and biding time.

No he didn't. That flicker was the only instance of Elijah spotting the Argils, and it only happened because it moved to 'kill' a fake human. He then moves in, straight up bloody touches one and even though it physically feels like rock and he's literally staring at it the illusion still holds. The Argils don't even appear again after that scene, so I have no clue just how you came to that conclusion.

Edit: specifically, spotting the argils through the illusion.

 

[Deleted member 4876496]

how do you get the scene with danica?

 

[sexoffended]

This is very true. Jake can also empower people to perform various tasks. He can ask people to heal, to give their all to complete a task. These are examples we can observe in game. In fact I'm starting to think that Authority is one of the best traits for buffing and empowering the masses.

The Authority trait makes someone the ultimate leader. What happens if someone who has great affinity for leadership inherits that trait? What if someone's will happens anyway, without the use of the trait?

When did Jake heal someone?

 

[Gtdead]

When did Jake heal someone?

I don't mean heal in the classic videogame sense where you restore hit points.

He asked someone to heal. In particular he asked Mia to remember. It didn't exactly work but it falls within the purview of positive reinforcement. It shows the range of what can be done with this power.

If he can ask Mia to remember, perhaps he can also ask someone to survive, ignore injures, heal wounds, heal mental issues or mental powers etc.

 

[sexoffended]

I don't mean heal in the classic videogame sense where you restore hit points.

He asked someone to heal. In particular he asked Mia to remember. It didn't exactly work but it falls within the purview of positive reinforcement. It shows the range of what can be done with this power.

If he can ask Mia to remember, perhaps he can also ask someone to survive, ignore injures, heal wounds, heal mental issues or mental powers etc.

Ohhoho
Jake asked Mia to remember EVERYTHING.
Not only it's an order close in magnitude to the one that put her in hospital bed, but he also made her remember the pain she felt.
Her fractured memories were collected together by Memory Echo with Jake's memories as a template. To be precise Jake did nothing to heal her. He couldn't even unfuck her mind properly.

 

[sexoffended]

Shen can access other's memories and he makes his dreams based around this info.

 

[Windfaker]

The devs who already had the plot In heads and know who Is who and what happen reading walls of illuminati text.

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[DrakoGhoul]

how do you get the scene with danica?

Since no one answered you, I'll help you. If you mean the dream sequence, go to sleep in class at HERO, after the Valravn fight. It doesn't matter if she's dead or not, you'll get it with a slight variation. If you mean with her in the shower, you just have to spare her and go on the B Rank hunt for the M72 Gorgon. There, she'll be Level 3 and help MC kill it. There's no sex scene yet, just them taking a shower together.

Hope that helps.

 

[JenusKudo]

Seeing people moving at light speed...I wish mc will also get a speed boost...

 

[blacklight47]

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how did i not see it

 

[Gtdead]

Seeing people moving at light speed...I wish mc will also get a speed boost...

He probably will. Not only he got a massive boost when he reached level 3 but he has a power suited to playing around with speed, at least when traveling great distances.

Not sure how useful it will be for combat, but at higher levels I expect him to have an easy time moving around the solar system.

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how did i not see it

There are many creatures that were inspired by folklore.
For example, Asura, Luz Mala, Gorgon, Cerberus, Chimera, Bakunawa, Aglaecwif, Eisheth, Valravn, Rebis

 

[JenusKudo]

He probably will. Not only he got a massive boost when he reached level 3 but he has a power suited to playing around with speed, at least when traveling great distances.

Not sure how useful it will be for combat, but at higher levels I expect him to have an easy time moving around the solar system.



There are many creatures that were inspired by folklore.
For example, Asura, Luz Mala, Gorgon, Cerberus, Chimera, Bakunawa, Aglaecwif, Eisheth, Valravn, Rebis

On that note, ella is the closest thing we can compare mc to. At lvl 4 she was having trouble dodging Alexis but at lvl 5 she was dodging nico...(and we are pretty much meat shield...getting chopped, destroyed with each attack) But since we are not following the same route as her (body modifications on celular lvl or atomic level)... It's hard for me to imagine what kind of power we will get for speed

 

[cebs]

Android port updated​

 

[Ddlc]

So, a long time ago i saw a discussion here about if it was possible for Mc to copy other powers, people were VERY passionate regarding this (and vocal too), however when people were arguing that the only relevant information inside the game about it was one from Xanthe, he said that it was not possible because Mc would need to change his internal energy to use different powers, however on my most recent playthrough i just noticed this dialogue:



This refers to a rank A hunt, when Mc finds a monster with both body and memory powers, one that resembles both Syla and the 4th. This monster seem able to not only copy different powers but even without direct contact, just by using memories of others, the only limit is it's own internal energy since using really powerfull moves would be very draining.
Now what do you guys think, is it a real possibility for Mc to use different powers in the future, considering he also has both body and memory traits ?

 

[weezal]

So, a long time ago i saw a discussion here about if it was possible for Mc to copy other powers, people were VERY passionate regarding this (and vocal too), however when people were arguing that the only relevant information inside the game about it was one from Xanthe, he said that it was not possible because Mc would need to change his internal energy to use different powers, however on my most recent playthrough i just noticed this dialogue:
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This refers to a rank A hunt, when Mc finds a monster with both body and memory powers, one that resembles both Syla and the 4th. This monster seem able to not only copy different powers but even without direct contact, just by using memories of others, the only limit is it's own internal energy since using really powerfull moves would be very draining.
Now what do you guys think, is it a real possibility for Mc to use different powers in the future, considering he also has both body and memory traits ?

would be so sick