Survey: What sort of content do you want to see in games?

[Mow.Mow.Mow.]

A'llo,

I will be working on a short story game series. I've already got myself some artists & a writer, & between us we've penned 12 short story ideas so far, which range from being relatable to taboo to pure fantasy. I know what I personally like & what my limits are, but I would still really like to get a better understanding of the sort of content the majority of adult game consumers actually want to see in games...

So my question is: what sort of content do you want to see more of in games? Do you prefer relatable story-lines, pure fantasy, or fictional story-lines of a taboo nature? Slow build up or straight to the action? Humans, animals (actual animals, upright animals, furries, etc), nekos, monsters, aliens, other? Futa/trap content? Male only, female only, balanced mix, or low pop male/female vs high pop of the opposite gender? etc. etc.

Feel free to post what sort of content you would like to see more of - I don't mind what it is - but please don't reply if you aren't going to provide a serious answer, cheers.

Quick note: your posts won't really be influencing what we create, but they could be taken into consideration as optional things that could be enabled/disabled, such as futa content, which I personally don't care for, but it seems to be somewhat popular. Same thing goes with extreme fetish & taboo content.

 

[rk-47]

more rpg elements in sandbox games, think of faerin or summertime saga. This actually makes it a game rather than a clicking simulator

 

[Mow.Mow.Mow.]

more rpg elements in sandbox games, think of faerin or summertime saga. This actually makes it a game rather than a clicking simulator

That's more genre specific, but ok.

I was more after the type of content in terms of story-lines that people are wanting & not gameplay mechanics - though they are also perfectly valid suggestions, just unfortunately not much use to me as I will not be working on sandbox games - though I could technically include rpg elements, even though the games will be 2D. I will mostly be doing visual novel hybrids (vn dialogs mixed with other gameplay mechanics - I'm not using rpgmaker or ren'py, so I'm less limited in what's possible).

 

[desmosome]

NTR?

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

So my question is: what sort of content do you want to see more of in games?

I prefer seeing what kind of world the developer can surprise me with. They don't often succeed though.
But okay let's see, when it comes down to me i prefer High Fantasy and Steampunk themes the most.
Steampunk in particular is extremely rare, so there's an opportunity for you.

Some of the other stuff i like:

*Slow build up.
*Monster girls. Especially if i can play as one.
*Monsters. Especially if i can play as one.
*Demon lords/gods/various ancient entities. Especially if i can play as one.
*It'd be interesting to play as some sealed in a pendant or something evil entity who'd mind control some passing by adventurer into picking it up and wearing it and then using that adventurer to go places and do lots of nasty mischief.
Maybe unsealing myself and taking over the body of that adventurer or some king/queen or something.
Or slowly transforming that adventurer (or other slaves) into something inhuman~ If it's a female adventurer then maybe into a succubus-like entity, completely subservient to me of course.
*Exploration/adventure/dimensional travel.
*I like when whatever entity i play as can evolve in various ways during the game.
*I like magic of course, which is part of every High Fantasy worth a damn.

Anyway that should be enough to give you some... ideas.

 

[Mow.Mow.Mow.]

I prefer seeing what kind of world the developer can surprise me with. They don't often succeed though.
But okay let's see, when it comes down to me i prefer High Fantasy and Steampunk themes the most.
Steampunk in particular is extremely rare, so there's an opportunity for you.

Some of the other stuff i like:

*Slow build up.
*Monster girls. Especially if i can play as one.
*Monsters. Especially if i can play as one.
*Demon lords/gods/various ancient entities. Especially if i can play as one.
*It'd be interesting to play as some sealed in a pendant or something evil entity who'd mind control some passing by adventurer into picking it up and wearing it and then using that adventurer to go places and do lots of nasty mischief.
Maybe unsealing myself and taking over the body of that adventurer or some king/queen or something.
Or slowly transforming that adventurer (or other slaves) into something inhuman~ If it's a female adventurer then maybe into a succubus-like entity, completely subservient to me of course.
*Exploration/adventure/dimensional travel.
*I like when whatever entity i play as can evolve in various ways during the game.
*I like magic of course, which is part of every High Fantasy worth a damn.

Anyway that should be enough to give you some... ideas.

What is it that people like about monsters/creatures & sex in nsfw games?

I don't have anything planned like that, but we do have a fantasy story with a monster involved, but it's more of a one-off thing as it's not really relevant to the world the story is set in.

 

[Deleted member 5189987]

It's best to follow your own idea. If you let people decide what to put in your game, you will get 1000 opinions. One thing you could do is list things you like and let people choose from those options. That way, you will know what the majority likes, and you still can make something that has your interest.

Of course you should listen to constructive criticism to improve, but keep in mind that it's YOUR game.

 

[Sphere42]

What is it that people like about monsters/creatures & sex in nsfw games?

Specifically the "unusual" nature, the opportunity to experience something not possible in real life or even in real-actor pornography if we're being honest. For story-based content there's also the more general escapism aspect.

By contrast what I usually absolutely despise is using non-humans as a bandaid for a narrow-minded view of humanity. When the "succubus" is just "a hot woman who enjoys having sex" or the orc is something between "muscular rapist" and "racist/classist caricature".

 

[Deleted member 5410619]

Corruption, Mind control.
It is so often used for slutiffication that i am skeptical every time i see the tag.

For example corrupting a mother or daughter to betray her family for me is far more fun then turning them into sluts.
Likewise having to manage an affair is also nice.
The risk of getting caught can increase the joy of the act.

 

[bazel]

A'llo,

I will be working on a short story game series. I've already got myself some artists & a writer, & between us we've penned 12 short story ideas so far, which range from being relatable to taboo to pure fantasy. I know what I personally like & what my limits are, but I would still really like to get a better understanding of the sort of content the majority of adult game consumers actually want to see in games...

So my question is: what sort of content do you want to see more of in games? Do you prefer relatable story-lines, pure fantasy, or fictional story-lines of a taboo nature? Slow build up or straight to the action? Humans, animals (actual animals, upright animals, furries, etc), nekos, monsters, aliens, other? Futa/trap content? Male only, female only, balanced mix, or low pop male/female vs high pop of the opposite gender? etc. etc.

Feel free to post what sort of content you would like to see more of - I don't mind what it is - but please don't reply if you aren't going to provide a serious answer, cheers.

Quick note: your posts won't really be influencing what we create, but they could be taken into consideration as optional things that could be enabled/disabled, such as futa content, which I personally don't care for, but it seems to be somewhat popular. Same thing goes with extreme fetish & taboo content.

Incest and milfs close to MC... yep.

On slow build up or straight to the action its honestly more whether it actually fits a character scenario and fetish. I find a lot of straight to action incest games pretty lazy and do shit that isn't really hot to get into it like you have boner so ask mom for help or whatever and it ends up just that the taboo is a genre tag rather than actually feeling like it is that scenario and what makes it hot. For straight to action though what I haven't really seen much is MC meeting characters again who some time ago he had a taboo relationship with and it gets reignited, gets straight into it easily or maybe a short burn period but its not starting from some ridiculous scenario of an 18 year old going "help I have boner I don't know what to do" and instead having some taboo interactions actually making sense with the speed of it.

 

[zuulan]

I totally second on RPG elements. And there is multiple games done with them. Like lab rats 2, superpowered. And even HTML game Masters Of Raana.

but what content? well i like Superpowers, magic, slavery manipulation and powerclimb. People often cry about sandbox and they have reasons to cry most sandbox games are crap. But Master of Raana is one of those sandbox games with RPG elements what are done right. Thought content is quite targeted ut is one of best HTML+Sandbox+RPG games that is actually good, so new devs should learn from it.

 

[Deleted member 1017199]

butt sex

 

[Mow.Mow.Mow.]

It's best to follow your own idea. If you let people decide what to put in your game, you will get 1000 opinions. One thing you could do is list things you like and let people choose from those options. That way, you will know what the majority likes, and you still can make something that has your interest.

Of course you should listen to constructive criticism to improve, but keep in mind that it's YOUR game.

That's the plan. I'm just curious about what other people find interesting. We will be holding polls (for patrons/discord members with x role) on which story they would like to see next. There's zero plans for developing sandbox games as they will be short (between 20 & 60 minutes each approx) with a strong emphasis on story. We will be mixing up gameplay genres a little bit depending on what the story is, but I'm not planning on breaking the box as I want to keep things as simple as possible to reduce development time. I have enough years of freelance game development & scripting experience to know that things are most likely not going to go as smoothly as I would like a lot of the time, but that's just game development in a nutshell. Fix one bug & another two appear in its place.

butt sex

Already in a couple or so of the story summaries I penned, including one with a bit of a comical revenge twist to it & a funny story title; which I will be keeping to myself for now.

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Quick note: there isn't a main character that you play as throughout. In most situations you are essentially a voyeur, though some situations may be influenced by you. & the gameplay mechanics will vary depending on the story-line.

 

[Beatrix Kiddo]

I find the lack of netori themed games a bit confounding, considering the amount of netorare games out there. I'm a big fan of the corruption and slow descend into a sex crazed mess, just not from the perspective of the cuck.

 

[Chalker]

monster girls and pure love.

 

[gunderson]

Personally, I want to see underrepresented genres that work like mid-tier games of old (i.e. neither phonegame clones nor mega-budget disAAAsters). Remember how Command and Conquer was both a solid RTS but also a schlocky/exploitationy FMV game? I'd fucking LOVE a mid-tier RTS with porn/story cutscenes. It wouldn't have to have actors or even full-on animated videos, but I could see oodles of fun to be had with an actual gameplay section topped off with some hardcore porn, possibly with modifications to the cutscene based on completing optional objectives in the previous RTS map. But (and this is what makes it different from nutaku shit)---no microtransactions, no gachapon shit, you pay installments for new levels with gameplay challenges and new porny cutscenes instead. Each update, presumably, is a new level or two.

And that could apply to a lot of other genres too: FPS, shoot em up, a chess game if you're feeling saucy. The point is that nothing aside from a limitation of vision keeps you to just a ren'py game no matter what.

And in the context of THOSE kinds of porn games, I want some fucking taboo with essentially no limits. Incest, animal-fucking, cheating spouses, mind control, age variables, pregnancy, tentacle rape; whatever the fuck you want to make should be what goes into such a game. I know people are terrified of taking risks, but would people REALLY be that terrified of a Starcraft/Warcraft-style game with busty milfs and incest? I think not.

So yeah, that's what I'd like to see. And I don't think it's really that strange a request, either: indie games of all sorts of gameplay styles pop up on Steam all the time. Why can't one of those gameplay-heavy devs decide they'd like some big titties and inbreeding in their game?

Note: I realize this isn't quite what the OP is asking about. It's the thousandth "tell me what tags will get you to send me money" thread about what is almost certain to be (based on the odds alone) a cookie-cutter ren'py game by a novice dev, but OP phrased the thread title in a way that actually made me want to answer. So, there ya go: I want mid-budget adult games to fill out more gaming genres without being limited to vanilla sex.

 

[Sphere42]

would people REALLY be that terrified of a Starcraft/Warcraft-style game with busty milfs and incest? I think not.

Pearl-clutching puritan idiots aside you're ignoring the much more immediate problem: having messed with all three editors at some point I can tell you that even just making functioning custom RTS maps, with a working game engine and 3D models and all that already in your lap for free, is somewhere between a chore and a nightmare. Even if Blizzard were to licence the engine for commercial pornographic use (NOT happening!!!) you'd need several man-years creating the porn models, and probably several more getting the sex animations to actually work properly if the SC2 editor is any indication.

And if you completely separate the porn from the gameplay then why even bother? Just let people play WoW/SC/C&C/WH40K in peace and when they get horny they can watch some SFM animations or load up imitations of the popular characters in Honey Select like we already do now. Speaking of which did you know they made a team shooter game based on this 3D porn genre called "Overwatch"?

 

[gunderson]

Pearl-clutching puritan idiots aside you're ignoring the much more immediate problem: having messed with all three editors at some point I can tell you that even just making functioning custom RTS maps, with a working game engine and 3D models and all that already in your lap for free, is somewhere between a chore and a nightmare. Even if Blizzard were to licence the engine for commercial pornographic use (NOT happening!!!) you'd need several man-years creating the porn models, and probably several more getting the sex animations to actually work properly if the SC2 editor is any indication.

And if you completely separate the porn from the gameplay then why even bother? Just let people play WoW/SC/C&C/WH40K in peace and when they get horny they can watch some SFM animations or load up imitations of the popular characters in Honey Select like we already do now. Speaking of which did you know they made a team shooter game based on this 3D porn genre called "Overwatch"?

Pearl-clutching puritans don't have to play porn games. My point was more that, on f95, I imagine quite a number of people would be able to enjoy a different genre of sexy game. Is it likely to be easy? Probably not, especially for a genre like a 3d-modeled RTS. But then, why does the gameplay itself have to have such high-quality graphics? Seriously, take a look at the original Command and Conquer. That game is still fun to play, but its graphics in the non-cutscene parts are very clearly primitive. Still, they get the job done. Hell, take a look at World After War, an actual porn RTS that exists right now. It's not perfect, assuredly. It's actually quite janky. But it's also awesome, and I've been supporting its development for a good while now.

The problem porn game devs trying a new genre of game (for indie porn games) need to solve isn't to make it AAA/industry-standard (I thought I made that clear above), but to make it fun enough to stand on its own without distracting from the porn bits. If you don't want porn in your traditional game genres, you don't personally have to play those. But why can't somebody want a porn game with good gameplay? Have you ever tried a Eushully game? Brave Soul? Cobra Mission? There is nothing, NOTHING, preventing some dev with the time, skill, and resources, from making such a game with Western porn sensibilities aside from a lack of passion and ambition. Is that every dev? Of course not. But the market is SO FUCKING FULL of devs with no skill, no ambition, no real idea, who just would rather be a porn game dev than get a mcjob; that I might as well speak to the devs with anything like the talent to make something GOOD rather than just to make something at all.

 

[Sphere42]

But why can't somebody want a porn game with good gameplay?

Unless the porn is built directly into the core gameplay, in a way which makes it more enticing as porn than consuming it in a different way, it will always be more efficient to split the investment of talent and effort into two separate dedicated projects. "Battle sex" RPGM games do work, you get a sense of control over the action (or loss of control for the rape sims) but you can't really play an RTS and ogle the porn at the same time. So instead the devs can omit the porn and focus their efforts on making the RTS gameplay better, or simply designing more maps/levels if it's good enough. The people who personally see a significant improvement from the combination of both aspects will be in the minority while the "safe" RTS can be marketed to a much larger audience.

And things further splinter apart through fetishes and genres. You can't really cater to foot fetish or romance in a "typical" RTS but harem, slavery/free use and BDSM are quite easy to include. By contrast a fighting game becomes an unplayable clusterfuck if you try to have an entire orgy during gameplay but a foot-based "grab" attack can work really well. As hobby projects there is no issue, drool away! But many games nowadays are created as commercial products, probably by people who don't have the resources to do so on the side while maintaining a regular liveable income, and that means even though you might pay for that orcs vs elves sex slave RTS not many other people will. Many people will be happy to play Warcraft 3 and then search "Sylvanas gangbang" on r34 and at some point development simply doesn't break even with its own costs any more.

Personally I also tend to avoid "gameplay-heavy" porn games nowadays because most of the ones with sexual content I might otherwise be interested in tend to cause massive dissonance in their objectives. This is clearly a problem with the implementation rather than the core concept but my practical conclusion is the same: if it's a platformer with monsters and sex it's probably a whole lot of dreary rape, clunky movement under post-sex debuffs and a ton of resets to see the sex scenes without a gallery unlock. Losing is usually easy so it feels terrible to deliberately throw away progress for another Game Over Rape because for some reason the Japanese community is obsessed with that dogshit and won't reward me for actually managing to win.

Exhibit A: Ruins Seeker. A fun rogue-lite dungeon crawler/room clear action RPG which honestly would be awesome with a bit more polish and more levels wouldn't be amiss either. The heroine is under a "lewd curse" and trying to find a magical cure for it, you have an equally cute bookworm partner, rest stops in the dungeon including a funny event where the "water" is alcohol or aphrodisiac and you return to town between runs for adventurer hijinks. Sounds great for loading up with Skyrim levels of sex mods, right? Well fuck you too because the only action you're getting is Game Over Rape, and not even with all monsters in the dungeon IIRC. Awful, awful "and then you were fucked to death" "endings" for losing to the bosses, except not really because the game uses a mix of "just a dream" and timey-wimey excuses to just kick you out ready for the next dungeon run anyway. That "curse" which drives the plot? Never comes into play for proper sexy-times, just a bunch of "ugh... hah..." cutscenes, might as well have the MC dying of cancer instead. No lesbian sex with your comrade. No celebrating with fellow adventurers in the guild tavern. No inviting the creatures to consensual sex for an alternative combat style or the like (props to Rain's Rave and LonaRPG for having more of that despite the lore being crapsack rape hellscapes). Oh but the story finale was pretty good despite being more deserving of an R18 rating for blood and murder than for some tiddies. So TL;DR: I genuinely wish this game had been made without anyone ever considering the option of adding any form of sexual content to it, because the choices they made once they did actually made the game worse.

 

[Mow.Mow.Mow.]

Personally, I want to see underrepresented genres that work like mid-tier games of old (i.e. neither phonegame clones nor mega-budget disAAAsters). Remember how Command and Conquer was both a solid RTS but also a schlocky/exploitationy FMV game? I'd fucking LOVE a mid-tier RTS with porn/story cutscenes. It wouldn't have to have actors or even full-on animated videos, but I could see oodles of fun to be had with an actual gameplay section topped off with some hardcore porn, possibly with modifications to the cutscene based on completing optional objectives in the previous RTS map. But (and this is what makes it different from nutaku shit)---no microtransactions, no gachapon shit, you pay installments for new levels with gameplay challenges and new porny cutscenes instead. Each update, presumably, is a new level or two.

Note: I realize this isn't quite what the OP is asking about. It's the thousandth "tell me what tags will get you to send me money" thread about what is almost certain to be (based on the odds alone) a cookie-cutter ren'py game by a novice dev, but OP phrased the thread title in a way that actually made me want to answer. So, there ya go: I want mid-budget adult games to fill out more gaming genres without being limited to vanilla sex.

Unfortunately I'm not a fan of RTS games myself. I played some back in the day (on the amiga & then on ps1 a bit), but they aren't really my sort of game at all.

Live actors would be a nightmare (I assume you are talking about real actors for an FMV?). While the game engine I use has full FMV support, it wouldn't be possible to straight up create an FMV porn game. One you'd need to find actors willing to record hardcore porn. Two you would need all the licenses & medical shit & tests & all the other stuff that the porn industry is made to jump hoops through to make it legit. Three even if you manage to sort those two things out you would need lots of money for equipment & wages & access to places to be able to shoot the FMV animations/scenes, & you would need skilled camera operators & editors & the list goes on & on & on & on... all in all it would be a major pain in the ass for an indie developer - some of the porn companies made FMV games back in the 90's but I don't remember what any of them were called or if they were any good, as I was too young to play them.

But the market is SO FUCKING FULL of devs with no skill, no ambition, no real idea, who just would rather be a porn game dev than get a mcjob; that I might as well speak to the devs with anything like the talent to make something GOOD rather than just to make something at all.

I have 10+ years of freelance game development experience as an SFW game developer. I am new to adult game development, but I've managed to acquire myself a nice little team of artists & a writer & we are currently working on the game design documentation & character & world building / lore before we move onto the first short story. I personally have no interest in creating stories or gameplay content based on what you lot are spouting at me as I will be doing my own thing, which is something a little experimental as there's no fixed protagonist & each short story will have different content tags as opposed to just being horny teen son fucks milf (step) mother, or something generic like that. I think we have about 14 short stories (so far) very roughly jotted down.

The reason I'm looking into adult game development is because I've spent over 10 years working as a freelance game developer & work is very hit & miss. You can go weeks or months with hardly any work at all, & sometimes you end up swamped - but it's rare. Mostly you are just a hungry developer with bugger all money to your name. It's been a grind sometimes, but I still enjoy what I do. Anyway, I decided to look into adult game development to see if it offered a more stable way to make money more consistently instead via the odd bit of freelance work that comes my way every now & then.