RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.551] [Fujino]

[icyair]

I agree it needs story but come on,

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Then you got

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, there were so many better ideas that could have taken place for this instead,

Then you got Asuna's mother,

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. Storyline would have been much better to let them fall together, she is getting in the way and it's just another road block that is added.

Then there is Kirito he is getting dumber in each update, yes yes I know everyone hates him so who cares, but turning him into the horny boy who then ignores and treats everyone else like crap is again not the best the storyline.

There are other things I could keep going on here and this is not an attack, this is a forum where people can have their own thoughts and mine are the story is a mess, there were much better options that could be used for almost every girl in the game then what is currently being used.
I like a storyllne in any game even NTR but this storyline is all over the place, perhaps that due to trying to keep everyone happy.

I agree with you, the game is starting to present a mess. All the mystery and suspense is gone.
In my opinion the game is not progressing, I too think Inoda has everything to convince Asuna to have sex in FOG with the excuse that it's not a real thing. But it doesn't happen. Instead, Asuna starts doing lewd things in the real world. I thought that in part 2 Inoda would first get Asuna to do lewd things in FOG and we'd see a lot of lewd fight scenes and scenes like in the sewer and bandit camp where Asuna and Inoda are left alone while Kirito fights monsters. And then the lewd stuff would transfer to the real world.
Instead it feels like the game wants to explain everyone's thoughts and all their actions, there's no sense of mystery or excitement. Inoda and Asuna's mother had more development. I would like to see more scenes like in the sewers or the bandit camp. For example Liz made a mistake with the teleporter and would have sent Kirito separately from Inoda and Asuna. And we would only see pop-ups of what's going on between Inoda and Asuna. I understand about development and creating the right atmosphere for Asuna to give in to Inoda's persuasion, but that's what the first part was all about.

 

[kinglionheart]

Regarding the previous preview CG (to clarify, it was indeed Inoda's fantasy),

Straight from the dev's month, the preview picture is not real but a dream. No real world sex for Asuna and Inoda next update.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

The SAO series is about the boundary between VR and reality and the relationship of Kazuto and Asuna. That's why Asuna and Kazuto have more scenes in the LN and anime, and the rest of the characters are secondary. But from the Unital Ring arc, Lisbeth, Silica, Yui have more scene. Suguha had her scenes in the Fairy Dance arc, the same Sinon in the GGO arc. I like it when Asuna and Kazuto (Kirito) love scenes are shown more in the LN, of course I like the rest of the girls' characters too.

Dude, in the first place I wasn't even talking about what you're rambling on about, and in the second you're a KiriSuna fan playing a hardcore SAO NTR game that has Asuna being stolen away from Kirito just because it has some Kirito x Asuna sex scenes every now and then, and in your previous comment you said the hilarious contradiction of liking Asuna sucking off Inoda but disliking Suguha giving him a handjob (And probably more), you're kinda biased in a very weird way when you give answers XD

 

[Aniky Light]

Regarding the previous preview CG (to clarify, it was indeed Inoda's fantasy),

Straight from the dev's month, the preview picture is not real but a dream. No real world sex for Asuna and Inoda next update.

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Is this an animation of the game? I ask because I haven't seen this animation

 

[satoraiden]

Hi. I want to preface this by saying I'm a long time lurker in this thread and this is my first post in f95. Seeing as Fujino just posted a notice addressing some criticisms and other parts of his work, I'd like to share the comment I posted in ci-en regarding my opinion on the game.

Honestly, the update was good. The scenes were really well done (in my opinion) and the facial expressions were top notch.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that we're still in ver 0.25 of a game that's intended to be a slow build up for a really good payoff. I love the pacing of the story as it is, and speeding it up would limit creativity I think. The potential for multiple massage scenes, multiple risky phone call moments and risky FOG scenarios (such as the one in this update) is really really high. The sky's the limit with these scenes. Making Inoda and Asuna speed up would give people short term satisfaction, but would overall hurt the final product I think. Especially with the way the story is currently set up, having Asuna jump straight into Inoda's arms (or just speeding it up in general) instead of letting Liz and Inoda's plot play out would remove some of the excitement of waiting to see what's next in the new update.

Personally, I think just doing what you do best and not letting people dictate everything you do too much would be ideal. At the end of the day, I'm here for a game made by the hard work and effort of Fujino, not a game that's dictated by an audience that can't handle letting a narrative properly develop with a good payoff, and is just obsessed with short term pleasure instead of a long term great game and narrative.

TLDR; Let Fujino cook. They clearly have an idea that will take some time to execute but will pay off big time. For people complaining about how we're only getting handjobs and too much Kirito development, remember that this is VERSION 0.25 of a game. Give it time. Trust me a short term payoff would absolutely SUCK in the long term.

We don't mind slow development, too fast isn't fun either, but not that slow! This is a literal repeat of the Henteria Chronicles mistake. In the ntr game about asuna we get ntr after 17 hours!!! and that ntr that is out of place, I get it, but what are people supposed to do all those hours? In the game there is a constant repetition of the same dialogues 2 or even 3 times and as a result we for 17h only at the beginning of the game, when the last part had time to retell more events and much more colorful for 7h. Knowing the speed of updates, plum plans, we have to wait for the final 2 years and 70 hours minimum.

I personally don't like this.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Is this an animation of the game? I ask because I haven't seen this animation

It's in the Ci-En page of the creator (Where he usually posts updates and news), this particular one he posted in a progress report like one week before the current update's release:

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[4-kun]

I read the novels before the anime was even a thing so I didn't have even remotely the same issues most people have with it (Mainly as a lot of them are problems with the anime adaptation being terrible in many of the novels' aspects sadly or cutting content, or people plain misunderstanding scenes even the anime made clear XP), but I can get you. If it helps, most of the issues people had with the 2nd half of S1 are gone in the next ones so I would recommend it if you were particularly into Kirito's adventure, or better yet reading the novels for the less cringe experience lol

And yeah, I agree with that. Though I may also be biased for being one of the few SAO fans that's just sick of Asuna after how much Canon gives us so much of her and completely sidelines the rest of the female cast constantly in her favor, so I prefer most of the other girls over her, especially with Kirito, which is why this Suguha development that I did NOT expect to see in a NTR game pleased me so much XD



Preach it dude! While I'm not 100% sure Fujino will not just drop this particular development and devolve back to cliche NTR tropes with her, I wanna believe otherwise, especially with how positive her reactions seemed to be towards basically sleep-raping him twice XD (Really wanna see that added to the recollection room next update)

To be honest, I admit I'm too old for 99% of the anime content; I'm more into seinen now. However, I watched a lot of anime back in the '90s and early '00s. In 2012, isekai wasn't mainstream, so it was something 'new' (I know there have been others before, like .HACK). I can still enjoy shonen if it's original or stands out by other means. It's just a personal preference.

As for Suguha. There's no evidence of her being in sexual contact with Asuna/Inoda (I've read spoilers about future Perk developments). While this isn't a 100% proof and can still change, I hope she gets her own storyline. In my understanding, Suguha is an important secondary female character to Fujino, so he likely has something different in mind for her. With little to no demands on her character from the audience, he can explore various possibilities, giving him the freedom to unfold his vision.

 

[SaiyaTop]

update 0.25 only have 2 scene ?

 

[BlurredIce]

Calm your tits everyone. Next update things would probably heat up as fujino sensei had said

Regarding the previous preview CG (to clarify, it was indeed Inoda's fantasy),

Straight from the dev's month, the preview picture is not real but a dream. No real world sex for Asuna and Inoda next update.

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Maybe liz? Isn't there a scene in this update where inoda imagined liz as asuna.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

To be honest, I admit I'm too old for 99% of the anime content; I'm more into seinen now. However, I watched a lot of anime back in the '90s and early '00s. In 2012, isekai wasn't mainstream, so it was something 'new' (I know there have been others before, like .HACK). I can still enjoy shonen if it's original or stands out by other means. It's just a personal preference.

As for Suguha. There's no evidence of her being in sexual contact with Asuna/Inoda (I've read spoilers about future Perk developments). While this isn't a 100% proof and can still change, I hope she gets her own storyline. In my understanding, Suguha is an important secondary female character to Fujino, so he likely has something different in mind for her. With little to no demands on her character from the audience, he can explore various possibilities, giving him the freedom to unfold his vision.

That's completely fair, yeah, I read it back when I was a teenager myself so watching the anime later wasn't as much of an issue for me, I probably wouldn't read it nowadays now that I'm an old man and my tastes have changed LOL.

I've avoided Spoilers, but as I said before, the 'perks' have been there from the very first update of the game and A LOT have changed since Fujino made them so a lot of them may either be not reliable or even outright just not matter much for the plot of other characters given all the changes Fujino made regarding the game when he first posted it.

I will admit, I had my own selfish reasons for wanting Suguha to end up being 'stolen' by Inoda, mainly that it was unironically the "best ending" I could imagine for her in this game (Especially since Fujino said getting rid of Hebishima was actually a possibility) and may as well get a Suguha x Asuna threesome out of it, but after this update I have changed my mind, now I want Suguha going Yandere for Kirito (Much to his horror) despite the power of Hebishima's Chad NTR Dick, maybe herself ending up being the cause Hebishima ends up removed from the game XD (Granted, it may be because it reminded me a bit of my favorite SAO H-doujin )

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

This is from fujino

 

[Kazuto123]

Dude, in the first place I wasn't even talking about what you're rambling on about, and in the second you're a KiriSuna fan playing a hardcore SAO NTR game that has Asuna being stolen away from Kirito just because it has some Kirito x Asuna sex scenes every now and then, and in your previous comment you said the hilarious contradiction of liking Asuna sucking off Inoda but disliking Suguha giving him a handjob (And probably more), you're kinda biased in a very weird way when you give answers XD

I may have misunderstood reading your post. I thought you meant the SAO anime series and the LN about KiriSuna, not the SAO NTR game
Sorry if it sounded so weird, I should have read more clearly.
In the previous comment, that's what I wrote.

 

[LPSD]

Is it me or the handjob scene just felt out of place, like asuna just said fuck it after constantly saying she can't do things with inoda again

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Is it me or the handjob scene just felt out of place, like asuna just said fuck it after constantly saying she can't do things with inoda again

To maybe-answer this, and also shed light on something most people either didn't notice or completely ignored/didn't care about compared to complaining about the game's pace in this update, now every time you enter the Recollection Room, if you go to the small temple on the left side, you can find Administrator/Quinella sitting there and she will give you some small talk related to the latest developments of the day if you interact with her once (Second time she just tells you to go away).

This lets you get hints that she has started actively interfering with the real world because of plot-Goddess powers, she says she was the one who allowed the magical horny-healing drug to be created, and during the scene of the handjob it's hinted SHE's the one that somehow gave Inoda magically the knowledge to do a medical massage that both got Asuna horny and let him do so without injuring her further :O

 

[pnkrel]

2. There was an excessive focus on Inoda's inner struggles, resulting in a weak sense of betrayal.

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.

The issue with the sense of betrayal lies in the current progress. I currently don't have any remarkable developments for Inoda and Asuna's dynamic. This ties into another problem.

So from what I read from the dev is that we are not suppose to see Inoda as a complete scumbag by seeing his inner struggles. What inner struggle was there? In Part 1 I could see him less scumbag because he only went after Asuna and used pretty tame tactics. But in Part 2, he uses fake aphrodisiac, blackmailed Kyouko into accomplice, and teams up with Liz to break the couple up. Even when I hear his thoughts, I see him as a uncontrollable sex addict. If anything he was less a scumbag before and now has no redeeming qualities. Did I miss something?

Was it all times he said he was unloved by his parents and he is so ugly no like him? He said those things when we trying to get Asuna to feel sympathy for him so am I suppose to think he is right or deserves it?

Maybe, he want to point out how Inoda has to be more cautious and manipulative to get Asuna, which in first game was just a linear progression. As well as, comic element was there such as liz helping him out, hj scene, and face stomp scene. So, he's getting more fleshed out as a character who has to use his wits to get asuna rather than like part 1 Asuna was just falling over more n more every day.

 

[omocik]

(...)if you want only CG for next update just don't play the game just ask people for CG

asking for CGi
for a friend
because part 2 been a bit of disapointement both in CGi, story and "elf magicians being used"

 

[pnkrel]

To maybe-answer this, and also shed light on something most people either didn't notice or completely ignored/didn't care about compared to complaining about the game's pace in this update, now every time you enter the Recollection Room, if you go to the small temple on the left side, you can find Administrator/Quinella sitting there and she will give you some small talk related to the latest developments of the day if you interact with her once (Second time she just tells you to go away).

This lets you get hints that she has started actively interfering with the real world because of plot-Goddess powers, she says she was the one who allowed the magical horny-healing drug to be created, and during the scene of the handjob it's hinted SHE's the one that somehow gave Inoda magically the knowledge to do a medical massage that both got Asuna horny and let him do so without injuring her further :O

I think that happened because of plot armour, as well. But yeah, it also can be that kirito dick, which was chemically made large, bring back her remembering Inoda. As well as, she was frustrated from her mom pressure, and she wanted to be defiant a bit. N as the plot armour goes, she wants to take care of him, so in the name of taking care, we got new H scene which was hot. It also contrast well with hj with kirito where she wasn't into it, but with him she was completely mesmerized by his size.

 

[LPSD]

To maybe-answer this, and also shed light on something most people either didn't notice or completely ignored/didn't care about compared to complaining about the game's pace in this update, now every time you enter the Recollection Room, if you go to the small temple on the left side, you can find Administrator/Quinella sitting there and she will give you some small talk related to the latest developments of the day if you interact with her once (Second time she just tells you to go away).

This lets you get hints that she has started actively interfering with the real world because of plot-Goddess powers, she says she was the one who allowed the magical horny-healing drug to be created, and during the scene of the handjob it's hinted SHE's the one that somehow gave Inoda magically the knowledge to do a medical massage that both got Asuna horny and let him do so without injuring her further :O

I see that explains it, not to hate or anything but if this is the way fujino is gonna have her get corrupted that sucks

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

I didn’t mind inoda being less of scumbag I thought it was pretty interesting

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I see that explains it, not to hate or anything but if this is the way fujino is gonna have her get corrupted that sucks

I mean, Fujino is clearly starting to rush Asuna's corruption because of so many people complaining of how slow it's going, so he's starting to take some liberties/shortcuts for it, but being totally fair she HAS already been corrupted a lot, it's just that she had the common sense to resist it and that's starting to be eroded, just not in a way most would have preferred I suppose XP