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I'm sure, Fujino took the character of Asuna from ranobe and anime. But thinking about the last update, Fudjino realized that a character with such a character does not match the plot and narrative

Because of the canon nature of Asuna, it turns out that Fujino's main mistake was that in the second part he began to corrupt Asuna anew. He should have continued Asuna's fall after the "lustful night" from the same level. That is, sex in real life in a condom. I think in the last update, Fujino realized that without a sharp break in personality, it would not be possible to develop a character, more precisely, it will take too much time, and we got what we got.
What character development, Fujino did not develop her character in all these updates, that's why many players felt what happened last time forced.
And that was Fujino fault he took too long between part 1 and 2 to get here, his players got used to Asuna personality in his plot but since he don't have more time to drag the plot along we got that last scene.
Like i said before the story reach a stage now where most of the NTR authors out there, don't know how to continue.
That's why Fujino come up with the council, for the plot have some foundation to continue and he have something to write about. I think this arch will be like another of Fujino's previous works "insta corruption" type.
 
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About mistakes, this game premise never was about Netorare, this was Netorase since the beggning.
NTR is about the process of cheating and having as the end result the girl being stole, but in secrecy and the cuck unaware about it but nothing prevent him to know the truth, there's a perception of risk involved.
Now when you have any plot device in any shape or form, like we have in this game, preventing this to happen the plot will have elements of NTR, but will be about NTS or cuck fetish, because all we do as players is watch.
The problem with NTS ithere's no risk it's safe and bland, nothing will came out of it and you know the ending before start, if that sounds familiar, it's becuse Fujino did that here. That's why you have so many complaints about the "NTR" portion of this game or the lack of players choices, because NTR was just in the name but the driving force behind the script is NTS and will finish with happy cuck or oblivious cuck because of that.
 
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About mistakes, this game premise never was about Netorare, this was Netorase since the beggning.
NTR is about the process of cheating and having as the end result the girl being stole, but in secrecy and the cuck unaware about it but nothing prevent him to know the truth, there's a perception of risk involved.
Now when you have any plot device in any shape or form, like we have in this game, preventing this to happen the plot will have elements of NTR, but will be about NTS or cuck fetish, because all we do as players is watch.
The problem with NTS ithere's no risk it's safe and bland, nothing will came out of it and you know the ending before start, if that sounds familiar, it's becuse Fujino did that here. That's why you have so many complaints about the "NTR" portion of this game or the lack of players choices, because NTR was just in the name but the driving force behind the script is NTS and will finish with happy cuck or oblivious cuck because of that.
Yeah... The future is shrouded in gloom. Even if everything we see now leads to NTS, thank God for now we are playing NTR. Perhaps Fujino will change his mind in the future, or maybe, as I wrote above, Fujino is now adjusting everything to his earliest ideas.
In general, if you read the perks, it feels like there will be 5-6 endings. Somehow it is unclear how Fujino will put so many conditions and events in the 2 endings "Happy Cuckito" and "Forgetful Cuckito" Although perhaps Fujino is just trolling us all. He told about the endings, but he keeps what actually happens a secret.
 
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Yeah... The future is shrouded in gloom. Even if everything we see now leads to NTS, thank God for now we are playing NTR. Perhaps Fujino will change his mind in the future, or maybe, as I wrote above, Fujino is now adjusting everything to his earliest ideas.
In general, if you read the perks, it feels like there will be 5-6 endings. Somehow it is unclear how Fujino will put so many conditions and events in the 2 endings "Happy Cuckito" and "Forgetful Cuckito"
Well this is most commom now, back in the day most of the NTR games you had the game over or "move on ending" if you discover the cheating, or doing the right ones you were able to cock block the bull at some extent.
The perks list is just a old mechanic that Fujino adopted from Japanese NTR games it's just for players curiosity sake.
The difference in here was Fujino letting open in the game files that's why everybody knows, but they have no connection with the endings. All these "conditions" will happen in both endings.
The thing about NTR and NTS games is the public perception, NTR games although being hated by many they are enticing because the sense of risk, forbidden,secrecy and deceive, but these games are harder to make exactly because of that, they require good writing skills.
NTS are hated because they are lame cuck fantasy with nothing to offer, and many of them are disguised as NTR because they are easy to make and write, but the authors know if they are open about the NTS part, their games or stories will not sell as good as they wanted, because different from NTR where you're being deceived, players don't like to see themselves as willing cucks.
 
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Well this is most commom now, back in the day most of the NTR games you had the game over or "move on ending" if you discover the cheating, or doing the right ones you were able to cock block the bull at some extent.
The perks list is just a old mechanic that Fujino adopted from Japanese NTR games it's just for players curiosity sake.
The difference in here was Fujino letting open in the game files that's why everybody knows, but they have no connection with the endings. All these "conditions" will happen in both endings.
The thing about NTR and NTS games is the public perception, NTR games although being hated by many they are enticing because the sense of risk, forbidden,secrecy and deceive, but these games are harder to make exactly because of that, they require good writing skills.
NTS are hated because they are lame cuck fantasy with nothing to offer, and many of them are disguised as NTR because they are easy to make and write,but the authors know if they are open about the NTS part, their games or stories will not sell as good as they wanted, because different from NTR where you're being deceived, players don't like to see themselves as willing cucks.
I must admit myself that i don't like Netorarse for this reason. Willing cucks are huge turn off for me it is just i odn't know not immersive ? Like i can't imagine that someone would willingly stay in relationship where their significant other cheating on them and absolutly disrespecting them it feel unreal.

What i like in netori or netorare is when the cuck has no idea that the affair is happening untill the end or even in ending when the cuck is still oblivios it feels more realistic. I really liked NTR Homestay for this reason
 
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Probably (hopefully) more updates on Asuna scenes and events this Monday and update will release next Monday :love:
 

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I must admit myself that i don't like Netorarse for this reason. Willing cucks are huge turn off for me it is just i odn't know not immersive ? Like i can't imagine that someone would willingly stay in relationship where their significant other cheating on them and absolutly disrespecting them it feel unreal.

What i like in netori or netorare is when the cuck has no idea that the affair is happening untill the end or even in ending when the cuck is still oblivios it feels more realistic. I really liked NTR Homestay for this reason
The game, so far, has quite a lot similar to NTR Homestay, especially the scene in the kitchen while Kirito went to Liz. And then I think there will be something similar. Inoda and Asuna should start fucking like rabbits in the game - on the base, on massage, in battle. Then he will move to real life, at work, in Inoda's apartment, in the cinema, in karaoke. And then Fujino has to make a choice... a choice that can raise a shit storm. You can understand him, he's taking a risk. perhaps Fujino thinks that NTS endings are safer than any other.
 
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Fujino himself probably sees the issue. After Lustful Night, 99% of NTR heroines would have secretly began masturbating and lusting after Inoda since that is the corruption pipeline. It is not a bad thing that Asuna is the 1%, but it's clear from the sudden abruptness of the Cabin scene after 6 months of blueballing that he had no idea how to get anime Asuna to be naturally corrupted.
 

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Fujino himself probably sees the issue. After Lustful Night, 99% of NTR heroines would have secretly began masturbating and lusting after Inoda since that is the corruption pipeline. It is not a bad thing that Asuna is the 1%, but it's clear from the sudden abruptness of the Cabin scene after 6 months of blueballing that he had no idea how to get anime Asuna to be naturally corrupted.
Well, it's a parody. Only the point of the parody is a satirical ridicule of the original work, but in the first part Fujino gave us the canonical Asuna and the canonical Kirito from ranobe. Asuna succumbed to corruption because of her kindness and pity, but Kirito was not stupid and quickly began to suspect something. Many people here wrote that you should not take everything seriously, because this is a PARODY. But it was not a parody, it was a work based on the original story. Fujino realized that nothing would work out that way, and now the real parody begins in version 0.55. Asuna becomes a sluttish parody of herself, and Kirito becomes a blind and stupid lustful parody of himself. And the ending of NTS just falls under the definition of a parody. Makes fun of Asuna and Kirito's real relationship.
 

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Think about it - we don't know what Asuna was doing in the novel or anime while she was not in the frame. , maybe she was fucking in Aincrad with a Kradil. Or what she was doing in Alfheim, maybe Oberon really fucked her in a golden cage. Or what was she doing while Kirito play at GGO? Maybe she fucked Egil. That's what NTR is - speculation, suspicion, fantasies of the forbidden. Fujino used to do NTR from a player's point of view, but now... I don't even know what to say.. Let's see what happens next.

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Will there be anal from Asuna giving it to Inoda? Since that's literally what's missing to break all the barriers.
Considering there are TWO sets of perks that deal with ass/anal I will it is a definite....


Maybe! ;)

So be it if Fujino doesn't change anything. The perks have a description of anal and deep throat.
Oh God I hope deep throat has nothing to do with ass/anal. :eek:
 
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Think about it - we don't know what Asuna was doing in the novel or anime while she was not in the frame. , maybe she was fucking in Aincrad with a Kradil. Or what she was doing in Alfheim, maybe Oberon really fucked her in a golden cage. Or what was she doing while Kirito play at GGO? Maybe she fucked Egil. That's what NTR is - speculation, suspicion, fantasies of the forbidden. Fujino used to do NTR from a player's point of view, but now... I don't even know what to say.. Let's see what happens next.
Well that's the thing about SAO canon, it always have this sexual undertone mostly in the LN then the anime/manga, rapes, assaults, cheating pregnancy etc. The Fujino idea for his game in part came from that.
He did include in the perks list "hypocrite" to Asuna as a trait, and now he is diving into the idea about pre FOG Asuna with the Oberon files who knows where this is going to end.
One thing about this hypocrite Asuna, she wasn't that dumb/innocent like her canon version, here she knew exactly what Inoda was aiming for and allow it to happen because of her pre FOG experience she already did that.
So with that in mind Fujino wasn't having any difficulties to make Asuna canon be corrupted, his Asuna was always corrupted he was just dragging the plot to make the game longer.
 
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Well that's the thing about SAO canon, it always have this sexual undertone mostly in the LN then the anime/manga, rapes, assaults, cheating pregnancy etc. The Fujino idea for his game in part came from that.
He did include in the perks list "hypocrite" to Asuna as a trait, and now he is diving into the idea about pre FOG Asuna with the Oberon files who knows where this is going to end.
One thing about this hypocrite Asuna, she wasn't that dumb/innocent like her canon version, here she knew exactly what Inoda was aiming for and allow it to happen because of her pre FOG experience she already did that.
So with that in mind Fujino wasn't having any difficulties to make Asuna canon be corrupted, his Asuna was always corrupted he was just dragging the plot to make the game longer.
Well, yes, you're right that Asuna was corrupted before all these events. I think she tried to forget all these events because of her love for Kirito. She knew exactly what Inoda wanted, but I think it was more subconscious. She was still dominated by that old personality of the kind and sympathetic Asuna. But Fujino somehow abruptly pulled inner whore out of Asuna, too abruptly.
 
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Well, yes, you're right that Asuna was corrupted before all these events. I think she tried to forget all these events because of her love for Kirito. She knew exactly what Inoda wanted, but I think it was more subconscious. She was still dominated by that old personality of the kind and sympathetic Asuna. But Fujino somehow abruptly pulled inner whore out of Asuna, too abruptly.
Asuna was already corrupted since Part 1, where she started helping Inoda and did those things for him, Asuna just didn't admit that she was enjoying it and didn't want to break her love for Kirito, Part 2 at the beginning the same thing, but only now that she can change sides now.

But I just think they forced the issue a bit with Liz, where Inoda was clearly managing to do things on his own without help.
 
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