AlterInfernalAllius

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Anyone of you experience lag when diologue appears in the bottom left of the screen apart from the main one?
i got it too, almost always lag when the side chat appeared, back to normal after it gone...

maybe someone playing with high spec can also answer? just for knowing if its becoz of hardware or the game engine itself...
It's both actually, if you have a strong enough PC then there is no lag at all but you should NOT need one to run an RPG Maker game with Koikatsu animations, it's a matter of how RPG Maker wasn't meant to have these things embedded into it so it overtaxes the PC's memory way beyond what a 'game' like this should, sadly. It's not something that can be 'fixed' because it's how the game itself is programmed.
 
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It's both actually, if you have a strong enough PC then there is no lag at all but you should NOT need one to run an RPG Maker game with Koikatsu animations, it's a matter of how RPG Maker wasn't meant to have these things embedded into it so it overtaxes the PC's memory way beyond what a 'game' like this should, sadly. It's not something that can be 'fixed' because it's how the game itself is programmed.
I found the plugin for that so if you want to turn it off follow those steps

In www->js folder
Make a backup of Plugins.js
Open it with a text editor and search for [SoR_GabWindow_Left]

You should get this:
{"name":"SoR_GabWindow_Left","status":true,"description":"Gad对话窗口-左 <GabWindow Type-Left>","parameters"

Then the ,"status":true replace [true] with [false]
Like this:
{"name":"SoR_GabWindow_Left","status":false,"description":"Gad对话窗口-左 <GabWindow Type-Left>","parameters":

Save and run the game

But you may miss indication on what to do since you won't get the dialogue at all
Why i'm not sharing the plugins directly it's because of the modding.
 

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I found the plugin for that so if you want to turn it off follow those steps

In www->js folder
Make a backup of Plugins.js
Open it with a text editor and search for [SoR_GabWindow_Left]

You should get this:
{"name":"SoR_GabWindow_Left","status":true,"description":"Gad对话窗口-左 <GabWindow Type-Left>","parameters"

Then the ,"status":true replace [true] with [false]
Like this:
{"name":"SoR_GabWindow_Left","status":false,"description":"Gad对话窗口-左 <GabWindow Type-Left>","parameters":

Save and run the game

But you may miss indication on what to do since you won't get the dialogue at all
Why i'm not sharing the plugins directly it's because of the modding.
You should have quoted those 2 rather than me, I have no issues running the game even with that XD Sorry if my reply there wasn't obvious, but I was kinda implying that my PC was more than strong enough to run it without any issues.
 

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Yeah, basically all NTR is predicated on the notion that no woman reports rape. Ever. Or that the partners of these women would universally be unable to handle it, and so on and so forth. NTR only truly works in a world devoid of common sense.
Well, not all are predictable, but most, yeah.
To me personally it's an much better experience, if you get surprised by event's, thats the thrill :D

I get it, it's way easier to make an cliche story and just focus on animations, quantity of content, whatever you can best. It's a good way for new devs to start, for sure, but Fujino already made 5 game, so one can expect more depth. To be fair, story was never his strong side/focus :)
 

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Well, not all are predictable, but most, yeah.
To me personally it's an much better experience, if you get surprised by event's, thats the thrill :D

I get it, it's way easier to make an cliche story and just focus on animations, quantity of content, whatever you can best. It's a good way for new devs to start, for sure, but Fujino already made 5 game, so one can expect more depth. To be fair, story was never his strong side/focus :)
Yeah, like someone else said, I don't think you should be expecting big/unexpected twists at all, Fujino's games follow the most usual NTR Tropes/cliches possible, only written in longer/more engaging ways than the usual 15 pages doujins so they feel better, but at their core they're basically the same: Main guys are useless at sex/have small dicks, Girls are all sluts inside whose love for big dicks far surpasses their loyalty/love for their actual couple/husband/love interest/etc, and will eventually/right away fall to the power of NTR Guy's Dick, usually through very simple means and with next to no resistance.

If anything, the reason the SAO game has garnered so much attention despite the complaints, I would day, is that Asuna actually is THE main girl that Fujino has written with the most 'resistance' of them all...usually his Heroines are already getting fucked or get fucked right away with basically no real effort to even try to prevent being fucked by the NTR guy of turn, but Asuna, getting raped in-game while out of it a couple times aside, actually resisted Inoda's advances the most and required a combination of very specific and plot-convenient things to happen before she gave in to his dick (And even still she rejected him as hard as she could afterward despite clearly preferring his dick over Kirito's). For comparison, Suguha, the other 'main' heroine of the game (Even if she's still technically a secondary), was tricked by Hebishima almost instantly despite her clear dislike of him, drugged, molested, and then blackmailed into becoming her unwilling fuck-buddy shortly afterward back in Part 1 (And still is ironically written as more 'resistant' than the usual Fujino girls despite that, Sakura back in his Fate game for example despite having had a long-lasting relationship with Shirou instantly succumbed and started getting regularly fucked with almost no resistance by "Danny" in their own house, LOL).
 

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Yeah, like someone else said, I don't think you should be expecting big/unexpected twists at all, Fujino's games follow the most usual NTR Tropes/cliches possible, only written in longer/more engaging ways than the usual 15 pages doujins so they feel better, but at their core they're basically the same: Main guys are useless at sex/have small dicks, Girls are all sluts inside whose love for big dicks far surpasses their loyalty/love for their actual couple/husband/love interest/etc, and will eventually/right away fall to the power of NTR Guy's Dick, usually through very simple means and with next to no resistance.

If anything, the reason the SAO game has garnered so much attention despite the complaints, I would day, is that Asuna actually is THE main girl that Fujino has written with the most 'resistance' of them all...usually his Heroines are already getting fucked or get fucked right away with basically no real effort to even try to prevent being fucked by the NTR guy of turn, but Asuna, getting raped in-game while out of it a couple times aside, actually resisted Inoda's advances the most and required a combination of very specific and plot-convenient things to happen before she gave in to his dick (And even still she rejected him as hard as she could afterward despite clearly preferring his dick over Kirito's). For comparison, Suguha, the other 'main' heroine of the game (Even if she's still technically a secondary), was tricked by Hebishima almost instantly despite her clear dislike of him, drugged, molested, and then blackmailed into becoming her unwilling fuck-buddy shortly afterward back in Part 1 (And still is ironically written as more 'resistant' than the usual Fujino girls despite that, Sakura back in his Fate game for example despite having had a long-lasting relationship with Shirou instantly succumbed and started getting regularly fucked with almost no resistance by "Danny" in their own house, LOL).
Great way to describe SAO NTR Awesomeness! Its best when there is resistance with more plot and how they are ''uncovered'' and taking place with eventual fall what makes best games in NTR, corruption genre. Wish there would be more games like that with ''reasonable'' plot where main villain or villains have to plot to slowly corrupt. It doesn't matter much even if it starts with sex and continues if she trying to resist or being forced or like in netori because of her loyalty/love for their couple/husband/lover/etc, but slowly or faster succumbing to lust and pleasure.
 
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is there an estimated time for when next update drops?
I believe Fujino aims to publish updates at the end of every month. If he doesn't have enough content for an update at the end of a month, the update is postponed at the end of the next month. Take this with a grain of salt, that's what I gathered from reading things here and there.
 

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Yeah, like someone else said, I don't think you should be expecting big/unexpected twists at all, Fujino's games follow the most usual NTR Tropes/cliches possible, only written in longer/more engaging ways than the usual 15 pages doujins so they feel better, but at their core they're basically the same: Main guys are useless at sex/have small dicks, Girls are all sluts inside whose love for big dicks far surpasses their loyalty/love for their actual couple/husband/love interest/etc, and will eventually/right away fall to the power of NTR Guy's Dick, usually through very simple means and with next to no resistance.

If anything, the reason the SAO game has garnered so much attention despite the complaints, I would day, is that Asuna actually is THE main girl that Fujino has written with the most 'resistance' of them all...usually his Heroines are already getting fucked or get fucked right away with basically no real effort to even try to prevent being fucked by the NTR guy of turn, but Asuna, getting raped in-game while out of it a couple times aside, actually resisted Inoda's advances the most and required a combination of very specific and plot-convenient things to happen before she gave in to his dick (And even still she rejected him as hard as she could afterward despite clearly preferring his dick over Kirito's). For comparison, Suguha, the other 'main' heroine of the game (Even if she's still technically a secondary), was tricked by Hebishima almost instantly despite her clear dislike of him, drugged, molested, and then blackmailed into becoming her unwilling fuck-buddy shortly afterward back in Part 1 (And still is ironically written as more 'resistant' than the usual Fujino girls despite that, Sakura back in his Fate game for example despite having had a long-lasting relationship with Shirou instantly succumbed and started getting regularly fucked with almost no resistance by "Danny" in their own house, LOL).
I fully understand the whole concept of NTR and it's sub genres. Everybody has it's preferences :)

As for Asuna, I read her character very differently, there is no interest in Kirito at all, she only does what she wants, right from the start, lying, cheating, etc. her resistance feels like excuses. That makes Kirito obsolet as an mc, not that he is any smart enogh to understand whats happening anyway :D There is just very bad chemistry between the characters in part 1.
To be objective Part 2 starts much better in that regard, problem is, it doesn't change what happened in part 1.
I actually think, that Fujino aims towards better storytelling in future installments.

Someone else pointed out, that playing Inoda would fit much more for this game, I agree with that.

But, hey, that are my personal thoughts. ^^
 
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Great way to describe SAO NTR Awesomeness! Its best when there is resistance with more plot and how they are ''uncovered'' and taking place with eventual fall what makes best games in NTR, corruption genre. Wish there would be more games like that with ''reasonable'' plot where main villain or villains have to plot to slowly corrupt. It doesn't matter much even if it starts with sex and continues if she trying to resist or being forced or like in netori because of her loyalty/love for their couple/husband/lover/etc, but slowly or faster succumbing to lust and pleasure.
I don't particularly care or like NTR myself, ironically, I'm just here because of the high-quality Hentai of the SAO girls (Mainly Sugu), I would personally prefer it more if it wasn't but beggars can't be choosers, I was just pointing out the obvious of how Fujino's works usually are of the NTR Tropes in specific and how they're applied XP

I fully understand the whole concept of NTR and it's sub genres. Everybody has it's preferences :)

As for Asuna, I read her character very differently, there is no interest in Kirito at all, she only does what she wants, right from the start, lying, cheating, etc. her resistance feels like excuses. That makes Kirito obsolet as an mc, not that he is any smart enogh to understand whats happening anyway :D There is just very bad chemistry between the characters in part 1.
To be objective Part 2 starts much better in that regard, problem is, it doesn't change what happened in part 1.
I actually think, that Fujino aims towards better storytelling in future installments.

Someone else pointed out, that playing Inoda would fit much more for this game, I agree with that.

But, hey, that are my personal thoughts. ^^
This is probably an issue caused, hilariously, because Fujino tried making the game 'deeper' than his usual works: While he heavily alters the characters' situations and the setting as he sees fit/remembers/is better for the NTR plot, they also heavily rely on people KNOWING Kirito and Asuna have a relationship beforehand way more than his usual games. A lot of the Kirito and Asuna dynamic certainly feels a lot more 'empty' because the game expects you to know how strong, build-up, and 'lasting' their relationship was beforehand...and then immediately starts showing the cliche NTR things like making Kirito ultra-mega-dumb, making Asuna sexually unsatisfied because he has a small dick and no stamina, etc. This clashing certainly makes it so that if you're not here just particularly because you like NTR or hate Kirito (Neither of which I do funnily enough), it's very easy to see the massive fails with both the characters and the plot, because funnily enough the very same thing that makes the game more engaging than your average 15 pages NTR doujin is what makes it 'suffer' from that, in short doujins you're just exposed to the dumb NTR tropes for their short lasting and that's it, in this game they're constantly and repeatedly slamming you in the face because of its bigger length and its more complex narrative, so if one particularly cares for that then it can become massively dumb :p

Fujino doesn't have to "aim" for anything "better" because this WORKS...as mentioned, Fujino has done quite a few games before this one that were way dumbed and people liked them, what he's already doing is ironically leagues more complex than he did in those even if it's still "dumb" from a 'realistic' perspective, so Fujino doesn't really need to make the story narratively more complex at all. Hell, if anything, the issues he got lately, aside from his IRL ones, were because a lot of people were MAD that he was taking so long in making Asuna fall/get corrupted and build up the story, and we know those DID affect him enough to make several changes and consider even massive ones.
 
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It's both actually, if you have a strong enough PC then there is no lag at all but you should NOT need one to run an RPG Maker game with Koikatsu animations, it's a matter of how RPG Maker wasn't meant to have these things embedded into it so it overtaxes the PC's memory way beyond what a 'game' like this should, sadly. It's not something that can be 'fixed' because it's how the game itself is programmed.
my specs are i7 gtx 1050 ti 4 gb 32 gb ram i think its more than enough to run a porn game
 

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my specs are i7 gtx 1050 ti 4 gb 32 gb ram i think its more than enough to run a porn game
LMAO, yeah, okay, I think that you should (Mine has twice the GB of graphic card but that same RAM). Weird then, maybe is because of some optimization issue? In that case, I'm not sure what to tell you sadly, maybe try running it as Administrator? Mine hasn't had those issues at all.
 

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Fujino doesn't have to "aim" for anything "better" because this WORKS...as mentioned, Fujino has done quite a few games before this one that were way dumbed and people liked them, what he's already doing is ironically leagues more complex than he did in those even if it's still "dumb" from a 'realistic' perspective, so Fujino doesn't really need to make the story narratively more complex at all. Hell, if anything, the issues he got lately, aside from his IRL ones, were because a lot of people were MAD that he was taking so long in making Asuna fall/get corrupted and build up the story, and we know those DID affect him enough to make several changes and consider even massive ones.
Yeah, but keep in mind, thats a players prospective.
I get that he want's to improve and change things, doing the same over and over again gets tiresome.

Also, a huge portion of his old games have been hilarious, is because the MTL-translation, I actually liked that a lot :D

You are also right about SAO characters beeing famous, so the expectations are probably higher.

I'm sure, he'll find his way, if someone doesn't like the result (myselft included), it's not his problem anyway :D
Also, it's only half of a gmae for now, so we'll se how it's gonna end. There is still a long way to go :)
 

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Yeah, but keep in mind, thats a players prospective.
I get that he want's to improve and change things, doing the same over and over again gets tiresome.

Also, a huge portion of his old games have been hilarious, is because the MTL-translation, I actually liked that a lot :D

You are also right about SAO characters beeing famous, so the expectations are probably higher.

I'm sure, he'll find his way, if someone doesn't like the result (myselft included), it's not his problem anyway :D
Also, it's only half of a gmae for now, so we'll se how it's gonna end. There is still a long way to go :)
I get you are trying to say "This is his game, other people should not influence the game" but he is depended on the subscription from his patrons so he can't ignore their concerns. His biggest problem IMO is there is a big divide in this fanbase. One side wants him to get to the good stuff and be done with the game. Another wants to him to develop the game and story more. No matter what he does, it can't satisfy both sides but tries anyway which causes a lot of strong opinions.

This is a unpopular statement but both Fujino and his supporters are in a business relationship. He can't do whatever he wants without backlash. Ironically this is a result of his success. I am sure before he become this popular he did not have deal with so much stress and pressure.
 

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I get you are trying to say "This is his game, other people should not influence the game" but he is depended on the subscription from his patrons so he can't ignore their concerns. His biggest problem IMO is there is a big divide in this fanbase. One side wants him to get to the good stuff and be done with the game. Another wants to him to develop the game and story more. No matter what he does, it can't satisfy both sides but tries anyway which causes a lot of strong opinions.

This is a unpopular statement but both Fujino and his supporters are in a business relationship. He can't do whatever he wants without backlash. Ironically this is a result of his success. I am sure before he become this popular he did not have deal with so much stress and pressure.
"should not influence" is a bit over the top, but as I mentioned players should keep in mind, that a developer, well needs to develope for his own sake. If he burns out, because he's forced by his audience to do repetitive, uninspiring work, nobody will be happy if he abandons his work :)

In the end, it's his decision how he wanna progress. Maybe he's fine with just doing what the majority wants, or with losing part of the audience, but making his vision of the game.

One thing I know for sure, I wouldn't want to trade places with him :D
 

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this version of the game was made thinking that you have a pc that has good components at least a video card, because of the tremendous lag in the left chat, but I understand that it can be solved, ikeda sensei had this problem until his friend corrected the problem.
 

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Well, hopefully we will soon know wetehr or not we get an update this weekend, i am honestly divided, while i would love to play sooner, this is the last update of the year and no idea how long until the next one next year (could be middle of january or well into february) so waiting a few more days so it has more contend wouldn't be bad either.

Well hopefully Fujino at least shares some teasers if there is a delay, like maybe 1 of the new outfits he mentioned.
 
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