RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ3] [Fujino]

[killerjeb]

I like a lot about side characters, I even want to see more interaction between Alice and Klein, must be fun.

 

[4-kun]

Yea, I have to agree. I think he just is not used to all the comments of people trying to push the development towards their own fetishes. I think he is getting overwhelmed and getting that mentality of trying to please everybody. I think when he is left to do the story the way he wants he does amazing NTR. But its been a bit all over the place since this game popped off after part1.

I know people want to see AsunaxInoda progress and get mad when side characters take up too much of an update. But thats only a problem during development. Issues like that should not be worried about too much, as you need to think about the pacing for the completed game, not the monthly updates. The side characters are what allows a rpgm style game to be enjoyable to play. It gives the game depth with scenes you discover while doing the main storyline. You get side characters so the game has constant sex scenes but allows the main girl to have a slower corruption path. But a lot of people dont think about the completed game, and just complain about wanting their specific fetish now. And I hope Fujino gets to a point where he can see that its better in the long run to do things the way he did before.

Im still enjoy part2, but its definitely moved to a direction im personally not liking as much. And the shifts in direction always come after a big round of hate comments, and his response to "correct" the game.

And I really hate this stuff with incorporating the recollection room into the actual story. But I dont see that as somthing people demanded of him and more something he just wanted to try for this game, is what it is.

I agree on your point, not overseeng the whole picture.

As someone who started playing part 2 at the previous update, I didn't have a feeling that the main story was neglected at all. Even if the main focus of a day was a side character, there was always progression of the main story around that, from my perspective even a bit too much at times, there is enough build up now to progress the main story imho.

 

[kinglionheart]

True, it helps me more easily digest ntr if mc spends time with other girls when he is cucked, even if those girls are also sluts for everyone but mc. I like the mc having positive interactions with other female characters, not necessarily sexy in nature, and also for mc to have postive and romantic interactions with the gf when they spend time together. Maybe thats just me.

I like having characters in the same world interact with each since that is what is suppose to happen. Like I know Hebishima does not interact with Asuna because Asuna is for Inoda's use only and no more sausages should enter her factory. But they are neighbors so them not meeting is so weird.

Plus Kirito is canon main character. Having him interact with the women who should want his short sword but don't anymore is sad in a funny way.

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

Makes me worried what Fujino could count as "unnecessary contents many people dislike", because all the people whining care exclusively about more Inoda and Asuna so that could mean reducing literally everything else, which would honestly suck after the quite original and interesting development with Suguha in the previous update. Just hope Fujino isn't forcing himself to do just what others want...

Maybe not suguha probably sinoh or Asuna mom

 

[kinglionheart]

Maybe not suguha probably sinoh or Asuna mom

Whether you like her or not, Asuna's mom is essential to Asuna's story so she won't be getting less screentime.

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

Whether you like her or not, Asuna's mom is essential to Asuna's story so she won't be getting less screentime.

Wait he said the next update is this Thursday?

 

[4-kun]

Wait he said the next update is this Thursday?

No, he's working on ingame Thursday

 

[supersomeone]

how do I see the scene that's in the 12th preview image?

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Maybe not suguha probably sinoh or Asuna mom

Whether you like her or not, Asuna's mom is essential to Asuna's story so she won't be getting less screentime.

This is another 'issue', really, at this point he has advanced enough in every storyline that except for Alice all the characters have become basically key for their specific plots going forward, and Alice's is ironically the one that needs the most screentime because it's the least developed one in terms of NTR-H-Game (It was nothing but empty build-up literally until this last update where we knew that out of nowhere Alice had actually already fallen in the clutches of the sex criminals thanks to a convenient Mind Control device). And as we commented before, Fujino can't simply just retroactively remove a whole storyline at this stage not only because it would affect the plot but because it could cause a lot of bugs, so in the end no matter what he decides to reduce, the other plots are gonna suffer from it.

At this point sadly I think the only real 'good' option Fujino has is to rush the Asuna/Inoda thing and finally have them start fucking again, the number of people who feel is rushed will undoubtedly be less than the ones glad that Asuna is finally fully NTR-ed and would reduce the complaints, especially if it guaranteed that no matter which plot was running in an update Asuna would always be getting fucked by Inoda in the background while Kirito does/deals with something else. Mind you, I know a lot of people here wouldn't be happy with things getting rushed, but Fujino has basically written himself into a corner trying to please everyone so unless he suddenly starts ignoring what everyone says/wants (Which is sadly unlikely at this stage), this would be his best bet going forward most likely...

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

This is another 'issue', really, at this point he has advanced enough in every storyline that except for Alice all the characters have become basically key for their specific plots going forward, and Alice's is ironically the one that needs the most screentime because it's the least developed one in terms of NTR-H-Game (It was nothing but empty build-up literally until this last update where we knew that out of nowhere Alice had actually already fallen in the clutches of the sex criminals thanks to a convenient Mind Control device). And as we commented before, Fujino can't simply just retroactively remove a whole storyline at this stage not only because it would affect the plot but because it could cause a lot of bugs, so in the end no matter what he decides to reduce, the other plots are gonna suffer from it.

At this point sadly I think the only real 'good' option Fujino has is to rush the Asuna/Inoda thing and finally have them start fucking again, the number of people who feel is rushed will undoubtedly be less than the ones glad that Asuna is finally fully NTR-ed and would reduce the complaints, especially if it guaranteed that no matter which plot was running in an update Asuna would always be getting fucked by Inoda in the background while Kirito does/deals with something else. Mind you, I know a lot of people here wouldn't be happy with things getting rushed, but Fujino has basically written himself into a corner trying to please everyone so unless he suddenly starts ignoring what everyone says/wants (Which is sadly unlikely at this stage), this would be his best bet going forward most likely...

It probably would have been better to make the othe NtR events into side quests as soon we made progress on Asuna and inoda we could have the option to do the NTR side quest but it’s too late at this you know i kinda miss the random NTR events seeing women cheating on someone I kinda hope to see Charlie finding out his girlfriend cheated on him with the fat manager like close to the ending of the game where Charlie finds out that he has been NTR kirito in a side quest finds out why and when it happened then he finds video journals of the manager and Charlie girlfriend that showed the hold story but now if someone asked fujino to removed it because they thought it was boring they are messed up

 

[4-kun]

It probably would have been better to make the othe NtR events into side quests as soon we made progress on Asuna and inoda we could have the option to do the NTR side quest but it’s too late at this you know i kinda miss the random NTR events seeing women cheating on someone I kinda hope to see Charlie finding out his girlfriend cheated on him with the fat manager like close to the ending of the game where Charlie finds out that he has been NTR kirito in a side quest finds out why and when it happened then he finds video journals of the manager and Charlie girlfriend that showed the hold story but now if someone asked fujino to removed it because they thought it was boring they are messed up

Sure, you could have thought of a workaround, but such things need to be considered before the actual development process. Fujino had a plan for how he wanted to proceed with the development, and how could he have known that it would end in such demanding complaints? Now it's too late to change things that have already been implemented; all he can do is cut some of the planned content. Even that could be a challenge, as every event takes place live in-game and proceeds in real-time, and time is intricately tied to the story. So, he will probably need to adjust his plan by a fair bit. That is only one aspect to consider among others.

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

Sure, you could have thought of a workaround, but such things need to be considered before the actual development process. Fujino had a plan for how he wanted to proceed with the development, and how could he have known that it would end in such demanding complaints? Now it's too late to change things that have already been implemented; all he can do is cut some of the planned content. Even that could be a challenge, as every event takes place live in-game and proceeds in real-time, and time is intricately tied to the story. So, he will probably need to adjust his plan by a fair bit. That is only one aspect to considerg among others.

Yeah I just hope if he ever makes another NTR game I don’t mind he adds more NTR stories but he should consider making them side quests so it be easy to do stuff he wants and after we do plot main plot we can do the side quests

 

[4-kun]

Yeah I just hope if he ever makes another NTR game I don’t mind he adds more NTR stories but he should consider making them side quests so it be easy to do stuff he wants and after we do plot main plot we can do the side quests

If Fujino wants to revert to simple storytelling, where the side characters essentially have nothing to do with the main plot, he could consider adding some placeholders to implement side quests later. However, it seems to me that he's trying to improve his skills in storytelling and is aiming for more complex games. You also need to consider, that the game might feel empty with only main plot.

I guess, we'll see.

 

[albakr0ss]

The only real problem with the side quests is that it's being developed alongside the main story. I can guarantee ya'll that if he released the full game as he intended without listening to any comment from anyone then there would be no complaint whatsoever. Less side quests in favor of advancing the main story rapidly is only going to lower the overall quality of the game once its finished. There's never going to be a case of "the main quest is done, time to do all the side quests retroactively" no, that's not going to happen. So all we're going to get now is a slow start, an abrupt change of pace to fast forward to the progress, and a less fulfilling game overall. Congrats guys, we played ourselves.

 

[saitamaTM]

i hope future update give us more gameplay like part time job,battle in SAO

 

[jowishg]

The only real problem with the side quests is that it's being developed alongside the main story. I can guarantee ya'll that if he released the full game as he intended without listening to any comment from anyone then there would be no complaint whatsoever. Less side quests in favor of advancing the main story rapidly is only going to lower the overall quality of the game once its finished. There's never going to be a case of "the main quest is done, time to do all the side quests retroactively" no, that's not going to happen. So all we're going to get now is a slow start, an abrupt change of pace to fast forward to the progress, and a less fulfilling game overall. Congrats guys, we played ourselves.

I think the impression is that the Asuna x Inoda storyline feels like a secondary plot in part 2, while in part 1 it felt like the main focus. Fujino is trying to do too much in a short amount of time while trying to please everyone. He should have followed his ideas since the beginning.

 

[4-kun]

i hope future update give us more gameplay like part time job,battle in SAO

For what purpose? To buy Asuna gifts to raise her affection and prevent Inoda from further progression? would be fun, but I doubt that the toxics would appreciate that)))

Jokes aside, new mechanics are a bunch of work; then he could just do the side characters as he planned)))

 

[RuinedManLife]

Did I somehow miss the Suguha scenes with Kirito (the 2 besides the handjob) or were they only implied, but never showed, not even in the recollection room?

 

[Fenixoscuro97]

gallery save pls

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Did I somehow miss the Suguha scenes with Kirito (the 2 besides the handjob) or were they only implied, but never showed, not even in the recollection room?

Yes, only implied so far, but then again this isn't the first time Fujino has done this, the update before this one we also had a couple scenes just 'implied' that we didn't get in the rec. room until this one, and the Suguha scenes from that same update also weren't added to the room until this update :O