Aniky Light

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Well, it literally is. When Fujino wrote that he would be busy with business in December, I thought, "Okay, brother, mind your own business," but when he wrote that he suddenly had covid, my first thought was, "Seriously?Did you give all your luck to Inoda? It looks like a lie." From this it seems that he shouldn't have written about the disease at all. When Fujino wrote about the business in December, he promised that he would make more content, and when Fujino wrote about covid, he seemed to be telling us "don't expect anything from me."

In general, it is a purely psychological question: why does a person tell strangers that he is sick? I will answer - to justify myself for something or to get sympathy. What do you think: sympathy or justification?
but how do you think he could have known he would be sick? it's easier to say he would be busy in December and not to say: in December I will be sick with covid, he couldn't have known
And if Fujino got stressed and ran away? hahaha
 

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If people in the world had more trust and empathy, there would be no jealousy and deception. There would be no NTR. Fujino makes a game that literally stimulates the destruction of trust and at the same time, naturally, cultivates cynicism towards people. What kind of empathy is there... :HideThePain:


There are countless issues I have with this game, and surprisingly, they don’t stem from the NTR theme itself. While NTR isn’t my favorite genre, I’ve come to tolerate it when handled well. What really bothers me here is the execution and the characters’ motivations, especially how a vile, manipulative loser like Inoda is somehow treated as more desirable than Kirito, who’s supposedly the love of Asuna’s life.

Let’s start with the absurdity: on the very first day, Asuna lies to the MC to spend time with Inoda, the “fatty guy". My immediate reaction was, "Seriously? She’s already lying to the guy she supposedly loves? LOL". From that moment, Inoda wastes no time exploiting everyone’s naïveté. He starts manipulating Asuna by taking advantage of the absurd hentai logic that dictates women will always prioritize sexual pleasure over emotional bonds. This setup completely undermines any genuine conflict or drama because it feels forced, like the game is trying too hard to justify why Asuna would betray the MC.

A friend once told me, "If Asuna realizes Inoda is using her, she’ll definitely leave him." But come on—by that point, hasn’t she already been corrupted by this ridiculous hentai logic? At this stage, even if she understands how he’s been manipulating her, it’s likely too late because she’s become addicted to him. The game seems to want us to believe that once a woman gives in to physical pleasure, there’s no turning back, which is not only unrealistic but also incredibly shallow storytelling.

For me, Asuna (in NTR Online, not the original series) is no better than Inoda. She actively chooses to betray the MC instead of being honest and leaving him, which would be the more respectable option. But of course, without her cheating, there wouldn’t be any NTR. That’s the problem with these types of stories—they often rely on contrived and morally bankrupt decisions to create drama, rather than crafting compelling and believable conflicts.

What makes it worse is how predictable the story is. Inoda is clearly going to come out on top, figuratively and literally, with a harem of the best girls. Meanwhile, Kirito will either end up completely alone or stuck with second-tier characters. There’s no real tension or excitement because we already know how it’s going to end.

If I had my way, the story would take a different turn. Imagine Kirito discovering Asuna’s infidelity, dumping her on the spot, and completely cutting ties. Then, to add a layer of poetic justice, Asuna later learns the full extent of Inoda’s manipulation—maybe through some supernatural reveal, like a crystal ball that shows her everything he did to ruin her relationship. She realizes she was nothing more than a pawn in his game, and she exacts a brutal revenge on him, destroying his life in a way that makes him regret ever being born.

Now, I wouldn’t mind if the game still included harem endings for fans of Inoda. Let them enjoy their scumbag fantasy. But for players like me, there needs to be at least one satisfying ending where Inoda gets the punishment he deserves, and Asuna realizes the full weight of her actions. Without that, the game just feels like an indulgent power trip for fans of the antagonist, with no real depth or payoff.

Right now, I struggle to see what’s appealing about this game, aside from the animations. If someone told me there’s an interesting, unexpected twist or a satisfying ending, I might reconsider playing it. But if every single scenario ends with Inoda winning and living his best life, it would be infuriating.

Honestly, I’d love for this game to take a page from Curse of Kubel, where there’s at least one ending where the tables turn, and Asuna takes her revenge. She could make Inoda suffer, strip him of everything he gained, and ensure he pays for his manipulative, predatory actions. Of course, I wouldn’t mind parallel endings where she ends up fully submissive to him—those could cater to fans of that dynamic. But without at least one fair and cathartic ending where justice prevails, this game feels hollow and one-dimensional. A balance like that would make the story so much more satisfying.
 

mos555

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So true. Fujino does not even need to lie.
He built up so much trust for the years, at least for me. Anytime he needed more he would announce it before hand so there is no unwelcomed surprise. The only bad action I remember Fujino doing that disappointed me was not releasing the Saikano bonus game because he didn't liked the game quality. But that is just my personal feelings.

I believe Fujino did not lie simply because there is no reason to.
You are somehow strangely idealizing a person who is completely unfamiliar to you. All you know about him is what he told you. kinglionheart just said himself that the world has long ceased to be a world of "pink ponies and free ice cream," but you are literally ready to justify to the last the person about whom you literally know almost nothing.

And for example, what if Fujino just wants to get sympathy from people, but in a monetary way. Patreon and ci-en users: "Oh my God, Fujino is dying, we need to give him money so that he gets better." Fujino will see it: "Oh! It's okay, extra 500 bucks for a vogue steak and a bottle of high-quality sake."It's like this is the first time that people put pressure on pity for money.
And don't rush to judge me! First, think for yourself, "can this be or not?"You should all know perfectly well that the cynicism of some people can be far beyond your expectations. And no one can rule out such an option.
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There are countless issues I have with this game, and surprisingly, they don’t stem from the NTR theme itself. While NTR isn’t my favorite genre, I’ve come to tolerate it when handled well. What really bothers me here is the execution and the characters’ motivations, especially how a vile, manipulative loser like Inoda is somehow treated as more desirable than Kirito, who’s supposedly the love of Asuna’s life.

Let’s start with the absurdity: on the very first day, Asuna lies to the MC to spend time with Inoda, the “fatty guy". My immediate reaction was, "Seriously? She’s already lying to the guy she supposedly loves? LOL". From that moment, Inoda wastes no time exploiting everyone’s naïveté. He starts manipulating Asuna by taking advantage of the absurd hentai logic that dictates women will always prioritize sexual pleasure over emotional bonds. This setup completely undermines any genuine conflict or drama because it feels forced, like the game is trying too hard to justify why Asuna would betray the MC.

A friend once told me, "If Asuna realizes Inoda is using her, she’ll definitely leave him." But come on—by that point, hasn’t she already been corrupted by this ridiculous hentai logic? At this stage, even if she understands how he’s been manipulating her, it’s likely too late because she’s become addicted to him. The game seems to want us to believe that once a woman gives in to physical pleasure, there’s no turning back, which is not only unrealistic but also incredibly shallow storytelling.

For me, Asuna (in NTR Online, not the original series) is no better than Inoda. She actively chooses to betray the MC instead of being honest and leaving him, which would be the more respectable option. But of course, without her cheating, there wouldn’t be any NTR. That’s the problem with these types of stories—they often rely on contrived and morally bankrupt decisions to create drama, rather than crafting compelling and believable conflicts.

What makes it worse is how predictable the story is. Inoda is clearly going to come out on top, figuratively and literally, with a harem of the best girls. Meanwhile, Kirito will either end up completely alone or stuck with second-tier characters. There’s no real tension or excitement because we already know how it’s going to end.

If I had my way, the story would take a different turn. Imagine Kirito discovering Asuna’s infidelity, dumping her on the spot, and completely cutting ties. Then, to add a layer of poetic justice, Asuna later learns the full extent of Inoda’s manipulation—maybe through some supernatural reveal, like a crystal ball that shows her everything he did to ruin her relationship. She realizes she was nothing more than a pawn in his game, and she exacts a brutal revenge on him, destroying his life in a way that makes him regret ever being born.

Now, I wouldn’t mind if the game still included harem endings for fans of Inoda. Let them enjoy their scumbag fantasy. But for players like me, there needs to be at least one satisfying ending where Inoda gets the punishment he deserves, and Asuna realizes the full weight of her actions. Without that, the game just feels like an indulgent power trip for fans of the antagonist, with no real depth or payoff.

Right now, I struggle to see what’s appealing about this game, aside from the animations. If someone told me there’s an interesting, unexpected twist or a satisfying ending, I might reconsider playing it. But if every single scenario ends with Inoda winning and living his best life, it would be infuriating.

Honestly, I’d love for this game to take a page from Curse of Kubel, where there’s at least one ending where the tables turn, and Asuna takes her revenge. She could make Inoda suffer, strip him of everything he gained, and ensure he pays for his manipulative, predatory actions. Of course, I wouldn’t mind parallel endings where she ends up fully submissive to him—those could cater to fans of that dynamic. But without at least one fair and cathartic ending where justice prevails, this game feels hollow and one-dimensional. A balance like that would make the story so much more satisfying.
i 100% agree with everything you said. canon asuna wouldn’t even have left kirito, when he was hospitalized...
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mos555

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There are countless issues I have with this game, and surprisingly, they don’t stem from the NTR theme itself. While NTR isn’t my favorite genre, I’ve come to tolerate it when handled well. What really bothers me here is the execution and the characters’ motivations, especially how a vile, manipulative loser like Inoda is somehow treated as more desirable than Kirito, who’s supposedly the love of Asuna’s life.

Let’s start with the absurdity: on the very first day, Asuna lies to the MC to spend time with Inoda, the “fatty guy". My immediate reaction was, "Seriously? She’s already lying to the guy she supposedly loves? LOL". From that moment, Inoda wastes no time exploiting everyone’s naïveté. He starts manipulating Asuna by taking advantage of the absurd hentai logic that dictates women will always prioritize sexual pleasure over emotional bonds. This setup completely undermines any genuine conflict or drama because it feels forced, like the game is trying too hard to justify why Asuna would betray the MC.

A friend once told me, "If Asuna realizes Inoda is using her, she’ll definitely leave him." But come on—by that point, hasn’t she already been corrupted by this ridiculous hentai logic? At this stage, even if she understands how he’s been manipulating her, it’s likely too late because she’s become addicted to him. The game seems to want us to believe that once a woman gives in to physical pleasure, there’s no turning back, which is not only unrealistic but also incredibly shallow storytelling.

For me, Asuna (in NTR Online, not the original series) is no better than Inoda. She actively chooses to betray the MC instead of being honest and leaving him, which would be the more respectable option. But of course, without her cheating, there wouldn’t be any NTR. That’s the problem with these types of stories—they often rely on contrived and morally bankrupt decisions to create drama, rather than crafting compelling and believable conflicts.

What makes it worse is how predictable the story is. Inoda is clearly going to come out on top, figuratively and literally, with a harem of the best girls. Meanwhile, Kirito will either end up completely alone or stuck with second-tier characters. There’s no real tension or excitement because we already know how it’s going to end.

If I had my way, the story would take a different turn. Imagine Kirito discovering Asuna’s infidelity, dumping her on the spot, and completely cutting ties. Then, to add a layer of poetic justice, Asuna later learns the full extent of Inoda’s manipulation—maybe through some supernatural reveal, like a crystal ball that shows her everything he did to ruin her relationship. She realizes she was nothing more than a pawn in his game, and she exacts a brutal revenge on him, destroying his life in a way that makes him regret ever being born.

Now, I wouldn’t mind if the game still included harem endings for fans of Inoda. Let them enjoy their scumbag fantasy. But for players like me, there needs to be at least one satisfying ending where Inoda gets the punishment he deserves, and Asuna realizes the full weight of her actions. Without that, the game just feels like an indulgent power trip for fans of the antagonist, with no real depth or payoff.

Right now, I struggle to see what’s appealing about this game, aside from the animations. If someone told me there’s an interesting, unexpected twist or a satisfying ending, I might reconsider playing it. But if every single scenario ends with Inoda winning and living his best life, it would be infuriating.

Honestly, I’d love for this game to take a page from Curse of Kubel, where there’s at least one ending where the tables turn, and Asuna takes her revenge. She could make Inoda suffer, strip him of everything he gained, and ensure he pays for his manipulative, predatory actions. Of course, I wouldn’t mind parallel endings where she ends up fully submissive to him—those could cater to fans of that dynamic. But without at least one fair and cathartic ending where justice prevails, this game feels hollow and one-dimensional. A balance like that would make the story so much more satisfying.
95 percent of NTR games are consumer goods based on the cliche that a woman always chooses physiological needs over relationships. Specifically, the game from Fujino attracts graphics, familiar characters, "bystander" mechanics and interesting moments in the plot. But in fact, the rest is true - Asuna followed the path of physical pleasure as in many other games.
 

kinglionheart

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You are somehow strangely idealizing a person who is completely unfamiliar to you. All you know about him is what he told you. kinglionheart just said himself that the world has long ceased to be a world of "pink ponies and free ice cream," but you are literally ready to justify to the last the person about whom you literally know almost nothing.

And for example, what if Fujino just wants to get sympathy from people, but in a monetary way. Patreon and ci-en users: "Oh my God, Fujino is dying, we need to give him money so that he gets better." Fujino will see it: "Oh! It's okay, extra 500 bucks for a vogue steak and a bottle of high-quality sake."It's like this is the first time that people put pressure on pity for money.
And don't rush to judge me! First, think for yourself, "can this be or not?"You should all know perfectly well that the cynicism of some people can be far beyond your expectations. And no one can rule out such an option.
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I am not idealizing anyone. This is simply trust he earned from years of consistent releases and not lying to us before. If I see proof he is lying then I might change my opinion but this time there is no proof he is lying so I just believe him. If you see his post and think he is lying then it is not my business.

If your first thought is others will wrong you then go ahead. I just think it is sad and disappointing. :cry:
 
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luccel

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There are countless issues I have with this game, and surprisingly, they don’t stem from the NTR theme itself. While NTR isn’t my favorite genre, I’ve come to tolerate it when handled well. What really bothers me here is the execution and the characters’ motivations, especially how a vile, manipulative loser like Inoda is somehow treated as more desirable than Kirito, who’s supposedly the love of Asuna’s life.

Let’s start with the absurdity: on the very first day, Asuna lies to the MC to spend time with Inoda, the “fatty guy". My immediate reaction was, "Seriously? She’s already lying to the guy she supposedly loves? LOL". From that moment, Inoda wastes no time exploiting everyone’s naïveté. He starts manipulating Asuna by taking advantage of the absurd hentai logic that dictates women will always prioritize sexual pleasure over emotional bonds. This setup completely undermines any genuine conflict or drama because it feels forced, like the game is trying too hard to justify why Asuna would betray the MC.

A friend once told me, "If Asuna realizes Inoda is using her, she’ll definitely leave him." But come on—by that point, hasn’t she already been corrupted by this ridiculous hentai logic? At this stage, even if she understands how he’s been manipulating her, it’s likely too late because she’s become addicted to him. The game seems to want us to believe that once a woman gives in to physical pleasure, there’s no turning back, which is not only unrealistic but also incredibly shallow storytelling.

For me, Asuna (in NTR Online, not the original series) is no better than Inoda. She actively chooses to betray the MC instead of being honest and leaving him, which would be the more respectable option. But of course, without her cheating, there wouldn’t be any NTR. That’s the problem with these types of stories—they often rely on contrived and morally bankrupt decisions to create drama, rather than crafting compelling and believable conflicts.

What makes it worse is how predictable the story is. Inoda is clearly going to come out on top, figuratively and literally, with a harem of the best girls. Meanwhile, Kirito will either end up completely alone or stuck with second-tier characters. There’s no real tension or excitement because we already know how it’s going to end.

If I had my way, the story would take a different turn. Imagine Kirito discovering Asuna’s infidelity, dumping her on the spot, and completely cutting ties. Then, to add a layer of poetic justice, Asuna later learns the full extent of Inoda’s manipulation—maybe through some supernatural reveal, like a crystal ball that shows her everything he did to ruin her relationship. She realizes she was nothing more than a pawn in his game, and she exacts a brutal revenge on him, destroying his life in a way that makes him regret ever being born.

Now, I wouldn’t mind if the game still included harem endings for fans of Inoda. Let them enjoy their scumbag fantasy. But for players like me, there needs to be at least one satisfying ending where Inoda gets the punishment he deserves, and Asuna realizes the full weight of her actions. Without that, the game just feels like an indulgent power trip for fans of the antagonist, with no real depth or payoff.

Right now, I struggle to see what’s appealing about this game, aside from the animations. If someone told me there’s an interesting, unexpected twist or a satisfying ending, I might reconsider playing it. But if every single scenario ends with Inoda winning and living his best life, it would be infuriating.

Honestly, I’d love for this game to take a page from Curse of Kubel, where there’s at least one ending where the tables turn, and Asuna takes her revenge. She could make Inoda suffer, strip him of everything he gained, and ensure he pays for his manipulative, predatory actions. Of course, I wouldn’t mind parallel endings where she ends up fully submissive to him—those could cater to fans of that dynamic. But without at least one fair and cathartic ending where justice prevails, this game feels hollow and one-dimensional. A balance like that would make the story so much more satisfying.
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What makes it worse is how predictable the story is. Inoda is clearly going to come out on top, figuratively and literally, with a harem of the best girls. Meanwhile, Kirito will either end up completely alone or stuck with second-tier characters. There’s no real tension or excitement because we already know how it’s going to end.
Man, it's a porn game, of course you know how it's going to end. Imagine watching a porno called "ANAL SLUTS FUCK REPAIRMAN" and being upset that you know how it's going to end. If you want deep, philosophical musings, go pick up a book.
 
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Aniky Light

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Man, it's a porn game, of course you know how it's going to end. Imagine watching a porno called "ANAL SLUTS FUCK REPAIRMAN" and being upset that you know how it's going to end. If you want deep, philosophical musings, go pick up a book.
it's a porn game because there are porn scenes, porn game doesn't mean shitty ending, it's up to Fujino
 

JFDNF

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it's a porn game because there are porn scenes, porn game doesn't mean shitty ending, it's up to Fujino
Yeah, and he's complaining about the genre of porn. If the girl having anal sex at the end of your porno is a "bad ending", you probably shouldn't be looking for "good endings" in the anal category lmao
 
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Did Fujino say anything about a sequel to Nero Remake?
Will there be a New Year's minigame?
It has been said that when he finish sao he will return to his previous projects like nero remake.
Fujino hasn't said anything about new year's minigame yet it may happen it may not, although the previous one was a surprise no one new.
 
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4-kun

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It has been said that when he finish sao he will return to his previous projects like nero remake.
Fujino hasn't said anything about new year's minigame yet it may happen it may not, although the previous one was a surprise no one new.
I wonder if he's really going to do it. I can't imagine going back to finish an old game that's of such lower quality, unless he's planning to rework everything from scratch.
 

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I wonder if he's really going to do it. I can't imagine going back to finish an old game that's of such lower quality, unless he's planning to rework everything from scratch.
In fact, all his games after Sao seem low quality. And the only good thing about them is the graphics. I'm glad Fujino decided to develop and not stop at what he had
 
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mos555

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In fact, all his games after Sao seem low quality. And the only good thing about them is the graphics. I'm glad Fujino decided to develop and not stop at what he had
It's true. Although, it can be noted that recently there have been more NTR games with 3D CG that use familiar characters or mechanics of battle scenes and status changes. Apparently, Fujino inspired a lot of people.
 
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It's true. Although, it can be noted that recently there have been more NTR games with 3D CG that use familiar characters or mechanics of battle scenes and status changes. Apparently, Fujino inspired a lot of people.
This is only for the best, the usual heroine status system is outdated. The system in the second part of SAO, I consider one of the best, there are perks that progress, a description of thoughts, a standard status, where the number of sexual actions of the heroine is indicated. And of course the ability to understand if something is happening to her, in the main menu. The only developer so far that I like more in this regard is "chimaLABO", his games for me are basically the best at least in this genre
 

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I wonder if he's really going to do it. I can't imagine going back to finish an old game that's of such lower quality, unless he's planning to rework everything from scratch.
There were only two games I remember he didn't finish before SAO. Sakura whose Part 1 was finished so he can just start Sakura Part 2 fresh. Nero Remake was barely started so he can remake that remake again from scratch. :LOL:
 
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There were only two games I remember he didn't finish before SAO. Sakura whose Part 1 was finished so he can just start Sakura Part 2 fresh. Nero Remake was barely started so he can remake that remake again from scratch. :LOL:
I know, but even though the Sakura chapter was kind of at the beginning, everyone in town was already corrupted after like 3 in-game days :LOL:. I'm just wondering whether Fujino can really go back to insta-corruption games after plotting the hell out of SAO in the last two years? :LOL:
 
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kinglionheart

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I know, but even though the Sakura chapter was kind of at the beginning, everyone in town was already corrupted after like 3 in-game days :LOL:. I'm just wondering whether Fujino can really go back to insta-corruption games after plotting the hell out of SAO in the last two years? :LOL:
I don't remember much about Sakura's plot but wasn't there some powerful evil being in it? Can you say Administrator 2.0? Or even better: Crossover! :LOL:
 
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