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I noticed some shadow moving in the back at that rock
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Is it maybe an lighting bug in koikatsu? Or maybe someone else invisible? (Doesn't make much sense, I know), Cause if you watch it closely, on the first cg the shadow looks like a silhouette (maybe Inoda), but at the moving tit cg, the shadow is moving weirdly, I wasn't able to figure out what it is

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Can't see much by the print but watch it on the gifs and tell your opinions


damn this hot
 

mos555

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It's strange that they didn't post another CG. Asuna's eyes are closed. I wonder if it was before she saw the penis, or if she deliberately closed her eyes so as not to be distracted from her conversation with Kirito.
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4-kun

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Fujino does most of the game the way he wants. In the last updates there was less Asuna because they were intermediate and he himself said so at the end of them. So it's hard to say how much his Chinese fans influenced here, considering that I'm not sure how much he even reads their comments. He mostly answers on Patreon and even congratulated only on Patreon. Although I saw him answer a couple of times and not only on Patreon. And speaking about the fact that fans only care about Asuna's story, this is only a plus because Fujino himself chooses how to lead other characters in the plot.
I fully admit that he will want to lead Suguha again in the NTR plot. My message above directly says this;). Yes, I myself have already written about this more than once. But I am starting from what is now and so far I do not see with whom this storyline could be
Ok.. for one last time :LOL:

I honestly don’t get your logic. What do you mean by "lead Suguha again in the NTR plot."? Let’s go through the facts: Suguha’s previous story arc was NOT ntr, nor had Kirito shown any affection or jealousy about her interactions with Hebishima. Even when he overheard something, he shrugged it off as nothing.

But now, after her character shift, it IS ntr because Asuna has clearly shown suspicion and jealousy about Kirito spending time with Suguha. For example, in the movie theater, where she overheard they bought a couples’ ticket.

I get it; some people don’t like how her story went, and that’s fine. Imo, she’s become the most interesting and unpredictable character in Part 2. She also plays a major role in driving the main plot forward, something that would never have happened if she had stayed with Hebishima.

Who knows, maybe Fujino just wants to give her justice, since she was refused by Kirito in the OG series, and now it’s her turn to have some fun. :p
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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Fujino does most of the game the way he wants. In the last updates there was less Asuna because they were intermediate and he himself said so at the end of them. So it's hard to say how much his Chinese fans influenced here, considering that I'm not sure how much he even reads their comments. He mostly answers on Patreon and even congratulated only on Patreon. Although I saw him answer a couple of times and not only on Patreon. And speaking about the fact that fans only care about Asuna's story, this is only a plus because Fujino himself chooses how to lead other characters in the plot.
I fully admit that he will want to lead Suguha again in the NTR plot. My message above directly says this;). Yes, I myself have already written about this more than once. But I am starting from what is now and so far I do not see with whom this storyline could be
The thing is that you're talking to someone who thinks a character is completely useless in this game if they're not stuck eternally into a "fucked by NTR Chad" situation, which Suguha's entire plot in Part 2 has completely denied repeatedly, hell, she literally has become the most relevant character outside the main story because of this (And recently even easily eclipsed the likes of Kyouko and Liz easily plot-wise despite not having as many H-scenes). That guy is just too braindead to realize or seems to not have been playing the same game at all, honestly, especially if his main argument is that "Nobody cares about her" because lmao, 'nobody' period cared about her back when she was Hebishima slut/was under the NTR cliche plots, she only got actual fans around here beyond me and one other when she broke free of them and started her very out-of-nowhere new plot :p

The biggest issue this guy's logic you're trying to accept has, and most of what you and others have been saying really, is seeing Suguha's entire plot as "vanilla", which if it was then it WOULD be doomed to fail in a NTR game, but it's anything but and that's why her plot has all the hope to continue as it is...Suguha is basically crazy at this point, with several yandere undertones, raping her brother unconscious against his will, undermining his relationship in subtle ways, dropping threatening bits, etc.

Another massive difference is that, unlike others, the plot/Fujino ACTUALLY let her do this in the first place...if she was 'doomed for the cliche NTR plots', as some keep thinking, then she would never have been allowed to start raping Kirito in the first place rather than it become a regular thing, and we had the biggest example of this last update: Liz TRIED to do this, but the plot didn't even let her fully enjoy a kiss with Kirito, and she immediately ended up raped and with her first time stolen by Inoda right away thanks to several dumb coincidences overlapping into each other XP
 

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Ok.. for one last time :LOL:

I honestly don’t get your logic. What do you mean by "lead Suguha again in the NTR plot."? Let’s go through the facts: Suguha’s previous story arc was NOT ntr, nor had Kirito shown any affection or jealousy about her interactions with Hebishima. Even when he overheard something, he shrugged it off as nothing.

But now, after her character shift, it IS ntr because Asuna has clearly shown suspicion and jealousy about Kirito spending time with Suguha. For example, in the movie theater, where she overheard they bought a couples’ ticket.

I get it; some people don’t like how her story went, and that’s fine. Imo, she’s become the most interesting and unpredictable character in Part 2. She also plays a major role in driving the main plot forward, something that would never have happened if she had stayed with Hebishima.

Who knows, maybe Fujino just wants to give her justice, since she was refused by Kirito in the OG series, and now it’s her turn to have some fun. :p
In that message I meant that Fujino might want to return Suguha to the NTR path, since we are now shown her affection for Kirito.
But, honestly, it's like I'm speaking for two camps of different people. In one case, they ask me - "Why do you think Suguha won't get fucked and there won't be an NTR?" - I answer that it's possible, but there are no prerequisites for it in the plot so far.
In the other camp, they ask me - "Why do you think she'll get fucked and there will be an NTR? She managed to escape from Hebishima's clutches, she won't fall for this anymore" - I write that this is how it is now and she should advance her relationship with Kirito. Otherwise, everything will be sad for her.
And in the end, everything repeats itself in a circle...
 
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900bs

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The thing is that you're talking to someone who thinks a character is completely useless in this game if they're not stuck eternally into a "fucked by NTR Chad" situation, which Suguha's entire plot in Part 2 has completely denied repeatedly, hell, she literally has become the most relevant character outside the main story because of this (And recently even easily eclipsed the likes of Kyouko and Liz easily plot-wise despite not having as many H-scenes). That guy is just too braindead to realize or seems to not have been playing the same game at all, honestly, especially if his main argument is that "Nobody cares about her" because lmao, 'nobody' period cared about her back when she was Hebishima slut/was under the NTR cliche plots, she only got actual fans around here beyond me and one other when she broke free of them and started her very out-of-nowhere new plot :p

The biggest issue this guy's logic you're trying to accept has, and most of what you and others have been saying really, is seeing Suguha's entire plot as "vanilla", which if it was then it WOULD be doomed to fail in a NTR game, but it's anything but and that's why her plot has all the hope to continue as it is...Suguha is basically crazy at this point, with several yandere undertones, raping her brother unconscious against his will, undermining his relationship in subtle ways, dropping threatening bits, etc.

Another massive difference is that, unlike others, the plot/Fujino ACTUALLY let her do this in the first place...if she was 'doomed for the cliche NTR plots', as some keep thinking, then she would never have been allowed to start raping Kirito in the first place rather than it become a regular thing, and we had the biggest example of this last update: Liz TRIED to do this, but the plot didn't even let her fully enjoy a kiss with Kirito, and she immediately ended up raped and with her first time stolen by Inoda right away thanks to several dumb coincidences overlapping into each other XP
Just two different camps, with different views on the character's fate.
The problem is that there is no point in arguing whether there will be an NTR or everything will be fine. We can only start from what we have at the moment, that's all.
And then both of these paths are possible, depending on Fujino's own desires.
 

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Okay, so, dropping the argument for the sake of convenience, something that has been bothered me for ages now...dude, you know you don't need to spam and you can answer to several messages in just one post instead of making 3/4 or more right? Like this?

In that message I meant that Fujino might want to return Suguha to the NTR path, since we are now shown her affection for Kirito.
But, honestly, it's like I'm speaking for two camps of different people. In one case, they ask me - "Why do you think Suguha won't get fucked and there won't be an NTR?" - I answer that it's possible, but there are no prerequisites for it in the plot so far.
In the other camp, they ask me - "Why do you think she'll get fucked and there will be an NTR? She managed to escape from Hebishima's clutches, she won't fall for this anymore" - I write that this is how it is now and she should advance her relationship with Kirito. Otherwise, everything will be sad for her.
And in the end, everything repeats itself in a circle...
Just two different camps, with different views on the character's fate.
The problem is that there is no point in arguing whether there will be an NTR or everything will be fine. We can only start from what we have at the moment, that's all.
And then both of these paths are possible, depending on Fujino's own desires.
I don't think it makes much difference whether it was before or after. But thanks for sharing
Just saying it after noticing you keep inflating the number of pages and replies constantly by replying to several messages with separate ones XD
 

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Okay, so, dropping the argument for the sake of convenience, something that has been bothered me for ages now...dude, you know you don't need to spam and you can answer to several messages in just one post instead of making 3/4 or more right? Like this?







Just saying it after noticing you keep inflating the number of pages and replies constantly by replying to several messages with separate ones XD
But I responded to three different people with different messages. And it’s easier for me not to mix different thoughts from different messages)
 

4-kun

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In that message I meant that Fujino might want to return Suguha to the NTR path, since we are now shown her affection for Kirito.
But, honestly, it's like I'm speaking for two camps of different people. In one case, they ask me - "Why do you think Suguha won't get fucked and there won't be an NTR?" - I answer that it's possible, but there are no prerequisites for it in the plot so far.
In the other camp, they ask me - "Why do you think she'll get fucked and there will be an NTR? She managed to escape from Hebishima's clutches, she won't fall for this anymore" - I write that this is how it is now and she should advance her relationship with Kirito. Otherwise, everything will be sad for her.
And in the end, everything repeats itself in a circle...
I see what you mean. Yeah, he could probably switch from Asuna getting NTR-ed to Kirito getting NTR-ed once his affection for Suguha is high enough, but what’s the point? NTR is NTR; gender doesn’t matter. Also, as you said, there’s no foreshadowing in that direction anyway, and it wouldn’t make any sense for her to willingly fall for another guy. That should be clear by now. The only way it could work is if she was forced, which would be damn cruel given that she didn’t really harm anyone, unlike Liz. But again, that leans more toward sadism than NTR, tbh.

I guess I’ll leave it at that—I get bored repeating myself, tbh (it’s not on you). :LOL:
 
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I see what you mean. Yeah, he could probably switch from Asuna getting NTR-ed to Kirito getting NTR-ed once his affection for Suguha is high enough, but what’s the point? NTR is NTR; gender doesn’t matter. Also, as you said, there’s no foreshadowing in that direction anyway, and it wouldn’t make any sense for her to willingly fall for another guy. That should be clear by now. The only way it could work is if she was forced, which would be damn cruel given that she didn’t really harm anyone, unlike Liz. But again, that leans more toward sadism than NTR, tbh.

I guess I’ll leave it at that—I get bored repeating myself, tbh (it’s not on you). :LOL:
In terms of NTR, Suguha is currently doing well and there are no prerequisites for this.
And as for how this could be, I wrote here - https://f95zone.to/threads/sword-ar...agic-part-2-v0-65-fujino.154352/post-15834690
But both of these theories are currently weak
 
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AlterInfernalAllius

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But I responded to three different people with different messages. And it’s easier for me not to mix different thoughts from different messages)
There is absolutely no issue responding to different people in one message instead of spamming messages, LMAO. See, like this.

All you have to do is *not* press enter when you respond from one message to the other, dude. :KEK:

Tell yourself that every time you spam, a baby seal dies.
I totally agree Misarmor, poor baby seals XP!

.......see 900? I CAN answer to different people without using a ton of messages for no reason :D
 
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