mos555

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Sorry for the huge amount of text... I will support this statement by mos555 and at the same time give my opinion about the game.

A couple of days ago you were talking about hypnosis and blackmail, and it's a good thing that Fujino did without them. But it's not like that. Inoda was blackmailing Kyoko at the very beginning of the 2nd part, and through her he influenced the lives of Asuna and Kirito. Without this influence, their story would have developed differently. Hypnosis wasn't the same as usual, but it had a different sauce– Asuna's negative states made it easier for Inode to get her. This was the case before the scene in the forest house and before the scene in the tent during camping. Moreover, after the scene in the tent, Asuna received a status – only Inoda's penis can satisfy Asuna's pussy. The status on which the whole game is based. Which brings us back to another of your points – it's good that Fujino is trying to move away from the cliche of antagonist having a big dick.… But that's what the whole game is built on. On the other hand, where without this cliche. Would we like Inoda to fuck Asuna with a cock smaller than Kirito's? )))

It would be pretty ridiculous)))

So it turns out that the game is very, very cliched. Right down to the characters (a beautiful girl who constantly wants sex, her boyfriend who has sex once a week and an antagonist who is ready 24 hours a day, 7 days a week).

Mos 555 mentioned the perks at the end of the game. Yes, they are really quite frustrating. They are frustrating from the point of view that the author is not able to write a beautiful original story, but constantly slides down to the cheapest cliche from such doujinshi. Plus, the author absolutely cannot take out the story and character of the characters he took into his game. (yes, I agree with mos555 on almost everything, and we have already discussed this on this forum). How is it that Asuna is starting to treat Kirito like shit? Does she have that trait?! Then why doesn't it apply the same way to the Inoda at the beginning of the game?! And if she is kindness itself, then why does she have such an attitude, even towards her former lover at the end of the game? It doesn't happen that way.…

Plus, with that kind of character in this game, she should have been fucked by the entire school basketball team a long time ago.… Oh, we lost today. Have pity on us, Asuna. How? Well, give me a hug or something? And then it started – they stroked her ass, then kneaded her tits, then asked her to cheer up before the game with a blowjob. Oh, we lost anyway, it's your fault. Let's get laid… Well, you get it. In our story, Asuna is so kind that she can't refuse such requests. Isn't that right?)))

what? is the Asana's life position never to take a dick in your mouth? Asuna, let's play dice for a wish! Asuna, you've lost. My desire is to suck my dick! you have to fulfill your wish! ... And Asuna is like, oh, right. Okay, let's do a blowjob.

What the hell kind of plot is this? And who is this heroine from sao?!

A separate song is about Asuna and Kirito's relationship.… They treat each other like shit the whole game. Well, except for a couple of moments when the author remembers that at least something needs to be shown, otherwise Their relationship is absolutely idiotic for a loving couple. Well, accordingly, we have a scale that devotion, which shows. Some people only noticed this in the last update, and I had already written about the absurdity of what was happening in the game itself and the readings on the scale. For the latest update, it would be logical to give Kirito 500-600 points, and Inoda 700-800.…

How can you worry about a couple when they have such a relationship? Asuna never reject Inoda, but she regularly rejects Kirito. Well, what should we worry about in this case? The most appropriate comparison is that today the whore I usually order from a brothel is busy with another client. Everything, how to live on?! Why the author turned the characters of the original work into these stupid, powerless idiots is completely incomprehensible to me. because fans love the original work because of them, because there is no very original plot there.

As we have already discussed with mos555, in a game of the genre, the main character does not have to be "impotent" at all.

I'll give you an example (a day with a bath for Kirito, Asuna and Inoda). Kirito goes to take a shower. Inoda follows Asuna into the room and begins to pester her, but she reluctantly gives in to him.… Perhaps this is the boundless love for which she is going to give her life? Her boyfriend came into the next room, and she's already ready to have sex with her lover!

But it should be like this. Inoda begins to pester Asuna, but she rudely rejects him. Literally sending him to hell. Because tonight she has a night with her loved one. and the Inode is needed for a one-time hookup during the week "for health." And if Inoda is not satisfied with something, then let her go wherever she wants, and she will find herself another dick! Inoda pulls off his usual trick. He pretends to leave, but he remains invisible in the room. Kirito arrives and they with Asuna have sex. (let's omit the option with his non-removable underpants, in our case it's not really necessary). Yes! They're having sex. Not 2 minutes, but normal. Yes, everyone is satisfied. Asuna cums (maybe a couple of times), Kirito cums. They're going to bed. We see an evil Inoda with a standing dick. He approaches the bed from Asuna's side. He lifts the blanket and starts fucking her with his fingers. Asuna wakes up and is shocked, unable to understand what is happening… But the skillful Inode brings her to a violent orgasm.

From this scene, we can see that Asuna really loves Kirito and he comes first for her. It's just that the evil Inoda gets his way anyway. Just in case, I'll add in case anyone has forgotten that Asuna has an unwritten fetish (or maybe a prescribed one). It turns her on when Inoda forcibly takes her. She's in the tent just cumming while masturbating with the thought of it. And anyway, most of their contacts are such that she puts up little verbal resistance, but gives up under the pressure of a powerful member.

And then everything gets more interesting! This event is made regular. And each time the Inoda goes further and further. Moreover, he leaves the balcony door open to get into the room. As a result, Kirito fucks with Asuna, and then Inoda comes over, pushes Asuna to the edge and fucks her, or he pulls her completely off the bed and fucks her on the floor.... If Asuna is on the bed, Kirito feels the bed rocking and starts to wake up, and Asuna kisses his neck and lulls him to sleep while Inoda continues to fuck her. And with each new time, a new pose is added, which could then be selected from the list and launched at will (It would be an opportunity for us to play and make a choice, not just viewing a visual novel). Plus, you can play with the balcony door. Close it, and Inoda will not enter the room and there will be no sex. The relationship between Asuna and Inoda could be built on this. She closes the door and he Can't do anything. She opens it, but he doesn't come in on purpose, and Asuna is nervous the next day, because she wanted to, but didn't get her fabulous orgasm. Can make a situation where Asuna refuses sex to Kirito, and Inoda fucks her longer and better for it. But after having sex with Inoda, out of guilt, she jerks off Kirito's sleeping cock, picks up his cock and starts jumping on it. Kirito wakes up in disbelief, and Asuna says that this is her gift to him. You can play with Inoda's skill, which first makes himself and her invisible and silent. Then, gradually, something will be canceled, which will only turn Asuna on more. It would be possible to make a scene where they fuck like in silent mode, Asuna cums loudly, Inoda comes out of her and removes the skill. Kirito wakes up to from the scream of Asuna's orgasm.

Kirito – Asuna, what's wrong with you?

Asuna – Kirito… Kirito-kun…

Kirito touches Asuna's forehead – Asuna, are you all wet, are you feeling unwell? (it's clear that she's all wet, she had intense sex with Inoda)

Asuna – I had a nightmare…

Kirito – okay, calm down, it's okay.

Asuna buries her head into Kirito's shoulder, trying to keep her lower body away and pull her thighs together so that Inoda's sperm does not leak out. At the same time, she is in a Madness state due to simultaneous orgasm and guilt in front of Kirito.

And it's only on this one recurring event that you can build a game! without 100 thousand maps of the area that will be used once in 20 hours of playing time.

At the same time, Asuna and Kirito's relationship is quite normal, and Asuna uses Inoda When she needs it. But at least we will see that Kirito is valuable to her (you can develop the game towards I love Kirito, and Inoda is just an enchanting orgasm once a week ... well, or 2 times))), or you can gradually take Asuna away from Kirito...). It could also be where Liz could be stuffed. Like she was filming the evidence base of Asuna's infidelity. Moreover, Inoda can spoil her records after sex, so that Liz comes back again and again. It could even be used in the form of – You want me to fuck that slut, Asuna, today? But I got so turned on by the thought of it that I couldn't resist and jerked off.… And now I can't get up! Help me, Liz! And so on....

That's what I'm talking about. Purely in my opinion, Fujino came up with an amazing idea for the NTR game, which is really amazing. 10/10! But he prescribed the plot disgustingly. For example, he introduced a massage, which was supposed to return Asuna to Inode after the first part. But in the end, Inoda fucks her in all poses 2 times a week anyway... and what's the point of him squeezing her tits during a massage?! It was just necessary to make the event earlier and more often.… Plus, in real life, their relationship could be reached through a massage. The four of them gathered together at Kirito's house. Liz takes Kirito outside. Inoda approaches Asuna and starts massaging her shoulders. Asuna yells at him, "What the fuck are you doing?" and Inoda says, "Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that we're not in the game." I'm so used to giving you massages. You really like him so much. And everything. Inoda becomes Asuna's massage therapist in real life… When she's stressed, she calls him to her house and it went – shoulder massage, back massage, foot massage, chest massage ... well, and the usual from Inoda – I'm so excited, You have to help me too)))

In the hotel, it was possible not to put them in one room, but to put them in different rooms with the ability to move around the hotel. Inoda came to play in Asuna's room. When they finished - oh, it's so late, I don't want to wake anyone up and I'll stay with you, okay? At lunch in the hotel restaurant, they chose a large round table at the end of the hall. Inoda drops her spoon and reaches under the table. Asuna, the spoon is right under your foot – he pushes Asuna's leg (spreads them) and fucks her with his fingers in the middle of the restaurant.

After that, Asuna could be bullied by dropping the spoon, but not getting under the table, while Asuna would be nervous and twitchy every time, but at the same time excited. After 3-4 days, she would ask to repeat it herself, and Inoda would have said – what am I to you, some kind of dog? You are ready to do something yourself, if so, then fulfill the request. Asuna agrees. Inoda tells her to go to the bathroom and come back without panties.…

In short, in this game, the field is not plowed for the slow growth corruption of the heroine, but everything comes down to us – oh, Inoda's big dick is so cool!

Therefore, in my opinion, the idea, potential of the game 10/10, the visual in the game 9-10 / 10, the implementation of the plot 3-4 /10 ... I'm a little upset.… and it's a pity that the author didn't realize his creation very well. But he's still doing great and he's got some promising ideas in this game.)
Well said. What you're absolutely right about is how awkward Asuna and Kirito's relationship looks from the very beginning. Everything could be attributed to Japanese conservatism and shyness in the relationship between a man and a woman, but they have been together for more than 4 years. I'm not even sure if Fujino has even watched anime? It perfectly shows their relationship and how close they are.

Perhaps in order to initially create an NTR atmosphere in the game, Fujino cooled their relationship and changed the canon so that Kirito did not save Asuna ALFheim so that the player could understand why their relationship was so strange. And I agree that Kirito's relationship with 998 out of 999 is much worse than Inoda's with 430 out of 500. Apparently, this is Fujino's way of showing us that Asuna is just a hypocritical and stupid nymphomaniac. It's not Asuna, it's just someone who looks like Asuna with a completely different consciousness that Oberon put there. Because a smart girl with developed critical thinking, despite her kindness, would never have believed a man like Inoda. :HideThePain:

But in general, this is Fujino's first story game and we can understand why he makes mistakes, we just have to watch and play.
 
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mos555

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Many people might say, "What are you talking about? This is a parody! The author makes the characters what he wants and makes the plot what he wants!" Maybe...
But are people playing this game because they're just familiar names? Asuna and Kirito? Or are people playing this because Asuna and Kirito are practically the strongest romantic couple among the ranobe and anime, and it would be interesting to see the NTR version of their story? I'm sure it's more likely the second option.
But at the same time, I would like to see some realism in their relationship. And not Kirito, who throws Asuna out of a date to go investigate some far from urgent nonsense, or Asuna, who refuses Kirito to go through the quests to go wash the another man cum off her thighs.(it's a matter of 2 minutes, I think Kirito could have waited.). It looks like they've been married for 20 years and are just tired of each other.
It's sad...
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Well, yeah, that's canon, which is why the great majority of SAO NTR content based around Kirito being terrible at sex and X character being better than him in VR are all factually wrong, he literally could outfuck even the manliest-looking black gigachad just because of how hard their stats are, meanwhile said dude would almost certainly be dying for breath trying to fuck Asuna for more than a minute, if actual-SAO-verse-logic applied instead of NTR one XD (And because of the glimpses we have of that on the CANON collection of sidestories from their honeymoon, because the author is just way too horny when it comes to them, it may even apply IRL too to a degree, Kirito is basically melting Asuna like putty even when they're not actually doing the naughty before several scenes 'cut to black', which implies is not just his stats but that he's actually surprisingly good at it, and if it wasn't for Asuna's own stats then it literally WOULD take more than one girl to satisfy him lol).
Now all the Kirito hate makes sense! Everyone's jealous that he gets Asuna AND has great sex with her :D
 
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Now all the Kirito hate makes sense! Everyone's jealous that he gets Asuna AND has great sex with her :D
Let's not forget he also has a perfect daughter, a harem of girls right to go if Asuna is not available including his not related sister, guy friends who doesn't threaten his harem (except in fanfics), god tier gaming skills, and a stable government job. Yea. A lot of possible hate/jealousy reasons for Kirito.
 
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Many people might say, "What are you talking about? This is a parody! The author makes the characters what he wants and makes the plot what he wants!" Maybe...
But are people playing this game because they're just familiar names? Asuna and Kirito? Or are people playing this because Asuna and Kirito are practically the strongest romantic couple among the ranobe and anime, and it would be interesting to see the NTR version of their story? I'm sure it's more likely the second option.
But at the same time, I would like to see some realism in their relationship. And not Kirito, who throws Asuna out of a date to go investigate some far from urgent nonsense, or Asuna, who refuses Kirito to go through the quests to go wash the another man cum off her thighs.(it's a matter of 2 minutes, I think Kirito could have waited.). It looks like they've been married for 20 years and are just tired of each other.
It's sad...
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Let's not forget he also has a perfect daughter, a harem of girls right to go if Asuna is not available including his not related sister, guy friends who doesn't threaten his harem (except in fanfics), god tier gaming skills, and a stable government job. Yea. A lot of possible hate/jealousy reasons for Kirito.
Or you could say he has psychological trauma, a perfectly boring girlfriend, a bunch of friends with no personal lives, and a gaming addiction. The government job is good, though; it’s all a matter of perspective. :sneaky:
 

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Let's not forget he also has a perfect daughter, a harem of girls right to go if Asuna is not available including his not related sister, guy friends who doesn't threaten his harem (except in fanfics), god tier gaming skills, and a stable government job. Yea. A lot of possible hate/jealousy reasons for Kirito.
Or you could say he has psychological trauma, a perfectly boring girlfriend, a bunch of friends with no personal lives, and a gaming addiction. The government job is good, though; it’s all a matter of perspective. :sneaky:
I mean, it's half and half :p? It's mostly how King described it, despite his mocking, only that it's a lot more complex and emotional than it seems. And 4-kun was totally right on the first thing, all the "good" on Kirito's life the haters like to mock comes at the cost of constant emotional and psychological trauma every arc, failing/hurting people he cares for, and a few times even seeing them get killed and blaming himself for it (And usually at least being indeed a bit to blame, even if he himself makes it seem a thousand times worse). Nobody ever really mentions that when looking at Kirito though, kinda like how the last thing in someone's mind when Deadpool is brought up is the cancer or the countless psychological and existential suffering he has gone through, it wouldn't be funny for the fandom/haters otherwise :p

His job also wasn't stable at all, if anything it was the shadiest part of things he had to do out of necessity/responsibility and also what caused him more trauma than ever before...

Once again, I wanna bring up the hilarious niche existence of the SAO Gameverse AU, which actually IS closer to what most haters shit on SAO about (Or at least embraces the tropes a lot more) and actually DOES massively reduce the amount of psychological and mental trauma Kirito goes through...and still honestly has better writing than the actually known canon series XD
 

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Sugu should make it so that Kirito can say "Who's cheating on who now, damn whore" :devilish:
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As fun as that would be, gotta remember, this IS still at the end of the day a NTR game with Kirito as the main victim...you should NOT want Kirito to get a fair and just retribution because the plot will never allow it, if anything, as I have said many times before, the only reason Sugu's plot is being allowed to go on is because of it being currently something BAD for Kirito as is. The only way Sugu can "win" in any level is if things stay like that, sadly, but yeah, Fujino's writing will stay true to the end, Kirito needs to be actually 'suffering' from whatever happens for Suguha to get a good end and stay free of the NTR-verse's power...
 
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Many people might say, "What are you talking about? This is a parody! The author makes the characters what he wants and makes the plot what he wants!" Maybe...
But are people playing this game because they're just familiar names? Asuna and Kirito? Or are people playing this because Asuna and Kirito are practically the strongest romantic couple among the ranobe and anime, and it would be interesting to see the NTR version of their story? I'm sure it's more likely the second option.
But at the same time, I would like to see some realism in their relationship. And not Kirito, who throws Asuna out of a date to go investigate some far from urgent nonsense, or Asuna, who refuses Kirito to go through the quests to go wash the another man cum off her thighs.(it's a matter of 2 minutes, I think Kirito could have waited.). It looks like they've been married for 20 years and are just tired of each other.
It's sad...
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i 100% agree with everything you said. the more i see this parody asuna, the more i respect canon asuna
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So what event do people think will break the 500 affection limit? I think it has to be some sort of emotional feeling rather than physical pleasure because we've already had a ton of that in FOG and even some irl
 
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So what event do people think will break the 500 affection limit? I think it has to be some sort of emotional feeling rather than physical pleasure because we've already had a ton of that in FOG and even some irl
It's a lot more likely that it's caused by Asuna completely losing faith in Kirito or falling under the power of the dick rather than any real emotional feelings, tbh, unless Fujino wants to finish murdering whatever remains of her character (Which he most likely will anyway XD). Like, really, it feels way more 'real' that she would snap from seeing him "cheating" IRL or finally succumb to Inoda's dick in the real world than her actually falling for him XP
 
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So what event do people think will break the 500 affection limit? I think it has to be some sort of emotional feeling rather than physical pleasure because we've already had a ton of that in FOG and even some irl
Well, like always, something happens, Asuna gets the wrong idea, Inoda plays his cards right, and boom. :LOL:
 
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