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4-kun

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Suguhan that suguha this, Alice bla2 oh my can the Dev make some content for Asuna, Im tired with this shit side character.
I don't know who Alice is, so I don't care for her.
But Slutsuma is a boring character, all she does, is going to school, after that fucks with Inoda or Kirito or play games, and everybody knows how it's gonna end, so she is basically just a fuck toy. I don't believe that I'm saying this, but even Cuckito has more depth. :rolleyes:

Suguha on the other hand, despite being in a much worse situation and much more corrupted is finally developing as a character. Making her NTR Asuna was a smart move by the dev, that's unusual for the genre, makes her much more likable and opens possibilities for new scenes.
 
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I really like the scenes and the tension building so far. Quick question though. Are the characters supposed to be so... dumb/oblivious? Like Kirito seems so hilariously stupid that it defies all logic. Give the average person 1/10 of what he has seen, heard, and experienced and they would be like "That bitch is cheatin' on me!". Liz's behavior alone would do that lol.
 

pnkrel

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I really like the scenes and the tension building so far. Quick question though. Are the characters supposed to be so... dumb/oblivious? Like Kirito seems so hilariously stupid that it defies all logic. Give the average person 1/10 of what he has seen, heard, and experienced and they would be like "That bitch is cheatin' on me!". Liz's behavior alone would do that lol.
Well, as far as I know, he's far more smarter than other Ntr protagonist. Specially in part 2.
 
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hecom

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It's totally fine to criticize the author and provide feedback, as everyone has the right to do so. This particular storyline has indeed exposed several issues, and I would like to briefly discuss my original intentions behind its design.

Feel free to discuss the work itself and the creator, but let's avoid creating conflicts in the comment section.

1. The text volume in this update was substantial.

I mentioned this issue briefly towards the end, as the lack of time on finishing Thursday contents, which is crucial, led to my own shortcomings. If there had been content for Thursday, there might not have been as much controversy. Additionally, I took reference from some elements of the original work, aiming to provide a better textual narrative experience. However, it seems that this didn't resonate well, and I will make adjustments moving forward.

2. There was an excessive focus on Inoda's inner struggles, resulting in a weak sense of betrayal.

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.

The issue with the sense of betrayal lies in the current progress. I currently don't have any remarkable developments for Inoda and Asuna's dynamic. This ties into another problem.

3. The progress is too slow, almost repeating the beginning stages of the part 1.

This storyline was influenced by the results of previous polls, where the majority voted for Kirito and Asuna to have a romantic relationship and preferred a slow-paced development. However, due to production constraints, there have been discrepancies and misdirection:

It seems that many players expected a more intense event to occur during the first massage event. But I considered that this shouldn't be a short-lived encounter like Nero's scenes. I had to consider the potential for reusing Liz and Kirito in this context.

Regarding the previous preview CG (to clarify, it was indeed Inoda's fantasy), it created unfavorable expectations. However, I couldn't deliver it on Thursday, and that's my fault. Starting from the next update, I will consider increasing the progression speed between Inoda and Asuna and introducing more engaging gameplay for Kirito himself.

Lastly, a plea:

Publicly sharing content invites criticism and suggestions, and I was not closing the comment section because people were hurling insults at me. It's impossible for me to cater to every fan's taste, and there will always be controversy surrounding the storyline. Feel free to discuss it among yourselves, but please refrain from attacking each other

 

Zerofuse

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Hi. I want to preface this by saying I'm a long time lurker in this thread and this is my first post in f95. Seeing as Fujino just posted a notice addressing some criticisms and other parts of his work, I'd like to share the comment I posted in ci-en regarding my opinion on the game.

Honestly, the update was good. The scenes were really well done (in my opinion) and the facial expressions were top notch.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that we're still in ver 0.25 of a game that's intended to be a slow build up for a really good payoff. I love the pacing of the story as it is, and speeding it up would limit creativity I think. The potential for multiple massage scenes, multiple risky phone call moments and risky FOG scenarios (such as the one in this update) is really really high. The sky's the limit with these scenes. Making Inoda and Asuna speed up would give people short term satisfaction, but would overall hurt the final product I think. Especially with the way the story is currently set up, having Asuna jump straight into Inoda's arms (or just speeding it up in general) instead of letting Liz and Inoda's plot play out would remove some of the excitement of waiting to see what's next in the new update.

Personally, I think just doing what you do best and not letting people dictate everything you do too much would be ideal. At the end of the day, I'm here for a game made by the hard work and effort of Fujino, not a game that's dictated by an audience that can't handle letting a narrative properly develop with a good payoff, and is just obsessed with short term pleasure instead of a long term great game and narrative.

TLDR; Let Fujino cook. They clearly have an idea that will take some time to execute but will pay off big time. For people complaining about how we're only getting handjobs and too much Kirito development, remember that this is VERSION 0.25 of a game. Give it time. Trust me a short term payoff would absolutely SUCK in the long term.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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Hm, nice. I hope Suguha gets more screentime from now on, she was really neglected in Part 2.

Would be nice, If she would turn into an Inoda counterpart NTRing Asuna even more. :whistle:
Gender-Equalized NTR for the win XD!

Man releases an update every month with the same amount of content every month and people still complain he is falling off, lolol.
This is the sad reality, if Fujino doesn't do exactly what they want, they will complain...but because so many people want different or specific things he will never be able to please everyone, so someone will ALWAYS complain. Such is the ungrateful nature of internet randoms getting free hentai XP

I don't know who Alice is, so I don't care for her.
But Slutsuma is a boring character, all she does, is going to school, after that fucks with Inoda or Kirito or play games, and everybody knows how it's gonna end, so she is basically just a fuck toy. I don't believe that I'm saying this, but even Cuckito has more depth. :rolleyes:

Suguha on the other hand, despite being in a much worse situation and much more corrupted is finally developing as a character. Making her NTR Asuna was a smart move by the dev, that's unusual for the genre, makes her much more likable and opens possibilities for new scenes.
I assume you never saw SAO beyond S1 or 2 maybe, but Alice is a character for the Alicization arc and a massively popular one in SAO overall, which is probably how she won the poll to be included in this game...the thing is, though, that there is no way to implement Alice as she was in Canon SAO here, even less so than Sinon, so Fujino had to basically make a full-on OC from background to relationship with the cast and give her Alice's looks to 'include her' in the game, which is probably why I'm also the least interested in her XP But yes, 100% agree with you in how great the Suguha part was :3
 
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Camiy

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Lame update, the game is going backwards, from nowhere Asuna gives a handjob to Inoda, but inst she totally reluctant on even approaching on him? It seems like the dev dont know how to please everyone and its trying to do it giving Asuna's scenes and at same time slowing a lot the progression.

Mostly this update for me was like "skip skip skip skip skip" all of those useless text.

Such a shame that the dev is being so much influenced by others opinions and ruining the entire game.

And what a fuck was that shit of "increase dick medicine"?

Fuck men i'm so disapointed with all this waiting for this. The man has everything to make Asunas get convinced to fuck him again in game with the excuses of not being a real thing, but no, he choses to make her submisseve from nowhere.
 

hecom

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TLDR; Let Fujino cook. They clearly have an idea that will take some time to execute but will pay off big time. For people complaining about how we're only getting handjobs and too much Kirito development, remember that this is VERSION 0.25 of a game. Give it time. Trust me a short term payoff would absolutely SUCK in the long term.
the thing is : Fujino clearly has a vision for his game
but at the same time, he's trying to cater to his patrons.
something that NEVER works.

either go into tunnel vision mode on the idea/concept and accept the fact that some people will drop support while others don't

or let the patrons decide what they want using polls and have them voice their opinions on Discord. (this choice is the safest for HDEVS)
 

4-kun

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Gender-Equalized NTR for the win XD!



This is the sad reality, if Fujino doesn't do exactly what they want, they will complain...but because so many people want different or specific things he will never be able to please everyone, so someone will ALWAYS complain. Such is the ungrateful nature of internet randoms getting free hentai XP



I assume you never saw SAO beyond S1 or 2 maybe, but Alice is a character for the Alicization arc and a massively popular one in SAO overall, which is probably how she won the poll to be included in this game...the thing is, though, that there is no way to implement Alice as she was in Canon SAO here, even less so than Sinon, so Fujino had to basically make a full-on OC from background to relationship with the cast and give her Alice's looks to 'include her' in the game, which is probably why I'm also the least interested in her XP But yes, 100% agree with you in how great the Suguha part was :3
Yeah, I only watched the first season and liked only the first half of it. ;) To be clear, I think there is nothing wrong with side characters; they are needed to progress the story in a more fluid way. Otherwise, we would just jump from one scene to another like many NTR games do, which is boring.
 

saitamaTM

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Lame update, the game is going backwards, from nowhere Asuna gives a handjob to Inoda, but inst she totally reluctant on even approaching on him? It seems like the dev dont know how to please everyone and its trying to do it giving Asuna's scenes and at same time slowing a lot the progression.

Mostly this update for me was like "skip skip skip skip skip" all of those useless text.

Such a shame that the dev is being so much influenced by others opinions and ruining the entire game.

And what a fuck was that shit of "increase dick medicine"?

Fuck men i'm so disapointed with all this waiting for this. The man has everything to make Asunas get convinced to fuck him again in game with the excuses of not being a real thing, but no, he choses to make her submisseve from nowhere.
bro the fucking game still need story if you want CG go to nhentai and porn of some shit you don't need to play the game disapointed because the update not for you it fucking happen for all game when it have new update that why never hype for anything it will disapointed you if you want only CG for next update just don't play the game just ask people for CG
 
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LordFrz

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How come language is not a problem anymore? Are we playing a different game?
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Yea, the game is made in Chinese, then he uses MTL to make the English version. MTL is not perfect and misses stuff, especially if the original text is in the picture and not the engine. You have to wait for an actual translation for everything else.
 
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saitamaTM

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It's totally fine to criticize the author and provide feedback, as everyone has the right to do so. This particular storyline has indeed exposed several issues, and I would like to briefly discuss my original intentions behind its design.

Feel free to discuss the work itself and the creator, but let's avoid creating conflicts in the comment section.

1. The text volume in this update was substantial.

I mentioned this issue briefly towards the end, as the lack of time on finishing Thursday contents, which is crucial, led to my own shortcomings. If there had been content for Thursday, there might not have been as much controversy. Additionally, I took reference from some elements of the original work, aiming to provide a better textual narrative experience. However, it seems that this didn't resonate well, and I will make adjustments moving forward.

2. There was an excessive focus on Inoda's inner struggles, resulting in a weak sense of betrayal.

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.

The issue with the sense of betrayal lies in the current progress. I currently don't have any remarkable developments for Inoda and Asuna's dynamic. This ties into another problem.

3. The progress is too slow, almost repeating the beginning stages of the part 1.

This storyline was influenced by the results of previous polls, where the majority voted for Kirito and Asuna to have a romantic relationship and preferred a slow-paced development. However, due to production constraints, there have been discrepancies and misdirection:

It seems that many players expected a more intense event to occur during the first massage event. But I considered that this shouldn't be a short-lived encounter like Nero's scenes. I had to consider the potential for reusing Liz and Kirito in this context.

Regarding the previous preview CG (to clarify, it was indeed Inoda's fantasy), it created unfavorable expectations. However, I couldn't deliver it on Thursday, and that's my fault. Starting from the next update, I will consider increasing the progression speed between Inoda and Asuna and introducing more engaging gameplay for Kirito himself.

Lastly, a plea:

Publicly sharing content invites criticism and suggestions, and I was not closing the comment section because people were hurling insults at me. It's impossible for me to cater to every fan's taste, and there will always be controversy surrounding the storyline. Feel free to discuss it among yourselves, but please refrain from attacking each other

that why i hate some moron on internet i hope fujino not care for a lot toxic comment
 
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fisty123

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bro the fucking game still need story if you want CG go to nhentai and porn of some shit you don't need to play the game disapointed because the update not for you it fucking happen for all game when it have new update that why never hype for anything it will disapointed you if you want only CG for next update just don't play the game just ask people for CG
I agree it needs story but come on,
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Then you got
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, there were so many better ideas that could have taken place for this instead,

Then you got Asuna's mother,
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. Storyline would have been much better to let them fall together, she is getting in the way and it's just another road block that is added.

Then there is Kirito he is getting dumber in each update, yes yes I know everyone hates him so who cares, but turning him into the horny boy who then ignores and treats everyone else like crap is again not the best the storyline.

There are other things I could keep going on here and this is not an attack, this is a forum where people can have their own thoughts and mine are the story is a mess, there were much better options that could be used for almost every girl in the game then what is currently being used.
I like a storyllne in any game even NTR but this storyline is all over the place, perhaps that due to trying to keep everyone happy.
 
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