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Ese es el final de esta actualizacion, debemos esperar por mas. Lo bueno es que no falta mucho.
Thats the end of this update, gotta wait for more, the good part is thaht it is only a few days from now
Thats the end of this update, gotta wait for more, the good part is thaht it is only a few days from now
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Actually, now that I think about it, my statement was a bit misleading, I guess. I was referring to my previous message, specifically an NTR female lead like Suguha in this game, where the player plays as a FMC who actively NTRs couples. I didn't mean the more obvious NTR FMC scenario, where they just end up being corrupted away from their love interest. I'm well aware of those.
The game still has the big problem BUG in reviewing the Log and then lost the conversation , once or 2 times to reroll to get back normal . It is really annoyed . Hopefull in Future the bug will be fixed
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I see. Yeah, that one is unheard of, to be honest. I don't think ı encountered this particular scenario in porn games. It's not a popular fetish among male demography when it comes to NTR games.Actually, now that I think about it, my statement was a bit misleading, I guess. I was referring to my previous message, specifically an NTR female lead like Suguha in this game, where the player plays as a FMC who actively NTRs couples. I didn't mean the more obvious NTR FMC scenario, where they just end up being corrupted away from their love interest. I'm well aware of those.
Actually, now that I think about it, my statement was a bit misleading, I guess. I was referring to my previous message, specifically an NTR female lead like Suguha in this game, where the player plays as a FMC who actively NTRs couples. I didn't mean the more obvious NTR FMC scenario, where they just end up being corrupted away from their love interest. I'm well aware of those.
This is probably because it kinda loses a lot of the 'spirit' of NTR, even Reverse NTR kinda loses its point here because it doesn't feel like the FMC would be 'winning' anything, it's basically just a slut MC who happens to target couples XD
Suguha's plot here works because both here and even in the source material she DOES have feelings for Kirito, and in both she had more or less accepted that he was happy with Asuna and just lived her life fine with that (Granted in the Fujinoverse she never actually made peace with those/got heartbroken like in Canon because Fujino twisted the fuck out of the timeline and made non-stop plot holes to somehow have Sugou's events have happened WITHOUT Sugu's involvement lol), but then thanks to her 'corruption' she just went full-on Yandere and decided to take him for herself. It works so well because there WAS an emotional attachment between the characters before she even 'snapped', so there is several layers of corruption, from Suguha's own love, one-sided as it was, to her actual relationship with her Onii-chan who kept seeing her as his beloved sister and doesn't know she's riding his dick and daydreaming of getting rid of his girlfriend to have him all to herself one day whenever he's online XP
Granted, the 'feeling' is a bit diminished given that she got not-NTR-ed first and also because the girlfriend in question is an unsatisfied slut who prefers the ugly bastard's dick already, but her having gotten free of Hebishima to get here in the first place already makes it very interesting in itself. However in a 'perfect' Reverse NTR scenario, Sugu would just snap or decide to get Kirito by herself one day without needing to be not-stolen first, and Asuna would legit be perfectly in love and loyal to Kirito so the Reverse NTR is actually 'fully realized' (Is kinda like why you won't really see a 'NTR' doujin where the MC is actually just fucking other girls behind his stolen girlfriend's back, because that would make most people feel it never was NTR at all).
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Yeah, that's what I mean. I've never come across those kinds of NTR games, which is still weird to be honest, because content-wise it wouldn't necessarily be much different. Even if we take this game as an example and let's say make Liz the FMC, she could still push Asuna towards Inoda and probably other guys, while herself going for Kirito. I just think it could open up many possibilities for refreshing storytelling. I kinda hope that Fujino will further explore this path with the side characters in this game.
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You have to remember that NTR fans can be into sadomasochism, so the suffering and humiliation of the MC adds to the experience a lot. You can see this from the fact that when ending votes happen in most NTR games, happy ending nearly never wins, because happy MC that still has a girl doesn't really add to that experience.
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Yeah, I know, but I don't see a reason, why the suffering shouldn't be applied on Asuna. To me, it doesn't make much of a difference who is suffering, be it male or female.
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It depends. I would say Suguha, if she were the MC, could still undergo the same development, just with better storytelling for the first part. The MC also doesn't have to be a whore, as usually portrayed in NTR. She could be or just turn into a morally questionable person but still preserve herself for only one man. It's all a matter of how and what you want to portray. It would probably even make more sense, as you said that in the original, it is actually Kirito who is the horny one, so one could just reverse the sexual frustration situation. As I said, many undiscovered possibilities.
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You know, this is similar to what I think about a lot of NTR content where the heroine getting stolen gets corrupted into some sort of cum dump/ whore. To me, it kind of loses much of the appeal of the whole "stealing" part of the game, since most of the heroines gradually lose their worth the further they get corrupted.
Sure, it's fun to see a capable woman with strong abilities get fucked silly until she is pissing herself unconscious, but if she stops caring about anything else and is nothing more than a hole to get fucked by the end of the story, what did the man who fucked her get? Nothing more than a hole who used to be special.
There is nothing fun about stealing something worthless.
That's why my ideal NTR for SAO would be one where Asuna still was who she was by the end of it, but twisted by her lust over Inoda. At the very least, by appearances she should still be strong in the eyes of others while pathetic in the face of the ultimate power of a ntr universe, a big dick.
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It could also be next Sat (or Sun depending on where you live) as Update 0.35 he released on April 27th compared to when we were expecting it on the 29th.
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Maybe some people like watching something great and beautiful get reduced into a piece of trash. Not kink shaming. I agree I would rather Asuna stay mostly the same if not slight twisted. If I am projecting myself on someone doing all that work to cuck away a woman, I rather at the end have someone worth all the effort. If I am just use and loose the woman at the end, I would rather just use Mind Control powers and skip most of the effort.
does the save is contain all scene?
just wondering like the part one last sex scene? or all POV i was wandering that the last one is only from kirito POV
just wondering like the part one last sex scene? or all POV i was wandering that the last one is only from kirito POV
And again, while that's an IDEA, it just loses the point of what most people wants to see in a "NTR story". If Suguha was the main character, the entire plot of her having been blackmailed, fucked and such wouldn't really work at all because it would lose what most people want to see XP Your last point is valid though, it would 100% work if Kirito was the sexually frustrated one, especially because Canonically Kirito and Asuna just can't meet and fuck every other week like Fujino made it seem in his NTR-verse, they live SO far apart that the only reason they still see each other regularly IRL post-SAO is because of school and why we basically only see them having like ONE date IRL alone by themselves in the entirety of the series, even counting side-content that never made it to the animeIt depends. I would say Suguha, if she were the MC, could still undergo the same development, just with better storytelling for the first part. The MC also doesn't have to be a whore, as usually portrayed in NTR. She could be or just turn into a morally questionable person but still preserve herself for only one man. It's all a matter of how and what you want to portray. It would probably even make more sense, as you said that in the original, it is actually Kirito who is the horny one, so one could just reverse the sexual frustration situation. As I said, many undiscovered possibilities.
Meanwhile, Suguha like, literally lives next door to his room, has a better body, and has a national-level kendoka's stamina XD I mentioned it in the past, but it's a shame how little to nonexistent Reverse NTR content exists of SAO because there is a lot of potential for it, especially with how overly perfect KiriSuna's relationship is portrayed and the other girls' silent acceptance of it becomes (Extra so with Sugu living in the same house as Kazuto). I think I only ever saw TWO doujins that were legit 100% reverse NTR, one of Lisbeth at that funnily enough and the other of Leafa in VR.Almost everyone just wants to see Asuna getting corrupted and fucked/raped and turned into a slut for someone else's dick, while also dedicating no less than a quarter of the work to point out how terrible and inferior Kirito was at sex with the current NTR-man in comparison, sadly, which after like 10 years has gotten beyond stale IMO (And why I think the attempts to 'NTR' the girls beyond Asuna in any kinda SAO work always fall flat and seem more overly focused on making sure to fully ruin Kirito's life all around than the girls actually getting corrupted).
I mean, sadly that's what all Fujino's works end up being, one way or another. Even this one while he's actually dragging the writing to make it last longer (Which ironically has made it feel a lot more unrealistic in other aspects despite giving him way more time to flesh out the world and characters) is clearly aimed to turning the girls into complete sluts in the end, like Kyouko really is whenever she's alone with Inoda despite her words. The only reason they didn't become insta-sluts after being exposed to his dick once even in their attitudes outside of sex is because Fujino wanted to try for a longer and more complex narrative, but it's clear it will happen for the 'main Inoda girls' in the end. Which is also why Suguha's sudden change in plot-focus was both so unexpected and interesting, as it's something Fujino never quite has tried before, but make no mistake, at it's core it IS the same: Suguha was acting like a full-on slut during that 'AV' she made in VR as Leafa with Hebishima. Sure, the 'fresh take' is that she was only doing so and out-fucking him outright because she was fantasizing she was doing it with Kirito and he was actually feeling annoyed at that script, but the 'Fujino TM Complete Slut Attitude' was clearly there, it was just the focus of the character that changed, and the fact that she's the one 'taking the lead' compared to the man because Kirito here is still the 'victim', in the end XD
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Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying it has to be that way; it was just an example. Suguha could also just have a straightforward NTR story. My point is that there is so much undiscovered potential. I also get your point that some, or maybe even most people, if they think of SAO NTR, just want Kirito to be pathetic. IMHO, if it's 100% obvious from the start that the MC can't do anything about it, why should one bother? What's the point? It's basically game over before it even started, be it NTR or any other genre.And again, while that's an IDEA, it just loses the point of what most people wants to see in a "NTR story". If Suguha was the main character, the entire plot of her having been blackmailed, fucked and such wouldn't really work at all because it would lose what most people want to see XP Your last point is valid though, it would 100% work if Kirito was the sexually frustrated one, especially because Canonically Kirito and Asuna just can't meet and fuck every other week like Fujino made it seem in his NTR-verse, they live SO far apart that the only reason they still see each other regularly IRL post-SAO is because of school and why we basically only see them having like ONE date IRL alone by themselves in the entirety of the series, even counting side-content that never made it to the anime
Almost everyone just wants to see Asuna getting corrupted and fucked/raped and turned into a slut for someone else's dick, while also dedicating no less than a quarter of the work to point out how terrible and inferior Kirito was at sex with the current NTR-man in comparison, sadly, which after like 10 years has gotten beyond stale IMO (And why I think the attempts to 'NTR' the girls beyond Asuna in any kinda SAO work always fall flat and seem more overly focused on making sure to fully ruin Kirito's life all around than the girls actually getting corrupted).
I mean, sadly that's what all Fujino's works end up being, one way or another. Even this one while he's actually dragging the writing to make it last longer (Which ironically has made it feel a lot more unrealistic in other aspects despite giving him way more time to flesh out the world and characters) is clearly aimed to turning the girls into complete sluts in the end, like Kyouko really is whenever she's alone with Inoda despite her words. The only reason they didn't become insta-sluts after being exposed to his dick once even in their attitudes outside of sex is because Fujino wanted to try for a longer and more complex narrative, but it's clear it will happen for the 'main Inoda girls' in the end. Which is also why Suguha's sudden change in plot-focus was both so unexpected and interesting, as it's something Fujino never quite has tried before, but make no mistake, at it's core it IS the same: Suguha was acting like a full-on slut during that 'AV' she made in VR as Leafa with Hebishima. Sure, the 'fresh take' is that she was only doing so and out-fucking him outright because she was fantasizing she was doing it with Kirito and he was actually feeling annoyed at that script, but the 'Fujino TM Complete Slut Attitude' was clearly there, it was just the focus of the character that changed, and the fact that she's the one 'taking the lead' compared to the man because Kirito here is still the 'victim', in the end XD
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Generally, good NTR games do give you multi-route gameplay with possibility of happy end and revenge for MC. I remember how good it was in Dark Hero Party. But it depends entirely on the writer and the Patreon, if they use voting system, so it becomes very rare to see those short of unique and interesting scenarios in NTR games. Most NTR games just heavily lean on porn logic to push plot forward. Then again, Fujino never made a happy ending for any of his NTR.
Previous games just had MC as a portable scene viewer, as girls got corrupted and turned into slut instantly. I am not saying this will end the same way, but Suguha plot and MC with some character is definitely a new ground for them.
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We are not talking about the same fate for women. A slut is someone with multiple sex partners. Fujino only finished the Chainsaw Man Hot Springs and Scathach game. Since I don't remember what happened at the end of Scathach so I will focus on Chainsaw game. At the end of that game the girls become sex-crazed for the guy and only that guy. That doesn't make them sluts.
I guess technically Asuna is already a slut since she slept with Kirito and Inoda but I think we can agree a woman should have more than two partners if they are considered a slut. The only sluts in this game are Suguha (if you count her online prostitutions), Sinon (unwillingly by Hebishima), and maybe Kyouko (depending on how many lovers she had before Inoda). I guess what you meant by slut was the girls will be sex-crazed. If you play as the guy corrupting the woman and if she becomes sex-crazed for you, then isn't the best outcome. You changed the woman to make her to see you, not sex, as the most important thing in her life. If she becomes a slut who gets off with anyone's dick then you are nothing special, just another warm dildo. The usual fate for woman who becomes sluts is becoming the town bicycle for everyone else to use which is not something Fujino has done for his main characters, unless it happened in Scathach, and is just wasteful for me. If she just becomes sexually open only when with the guy and mostly stays the same other times then it is just a happy ending for both parties.
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The ntr in the Chainsawman game is actually interesting, because the only one who actually "falls" in that game is Kobeni, who is not a romantic interest for the protagonist. While Makima does get fucked, she isn't exactly taken away from the protagonist in any way that is common in the genre. She wasn't even taking pleasure from the sex, instead using it to gain political favors.
Denji, who absolutely loves Makima in the game's universe actually gets to have sex and enjoy himself with her quite a bit, which is also rare for a game where the heroine and MC weren't already in a relationship before the NTR happened. Yet, at the same time, while his love interest wasn't stolen, he was certainly made a cuckold as she was getting fucked behind his back constantly, and while she took his first time, she had a pussy filled with someone's else cum.
All in all, it was an interesting development for a NTR game since they don't usually develop in such a way.
Although, I personally liked Sakura's chapter and SAO much more, I would say his Onsen game was the most original game from Fujino as of yet.