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Konesa

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hey guys its been awhile since i played this game. Is part 2 with enough content? I remember there was no ASUNA scenes when i played. What about now?
 

Infeno2.0

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it's early to make assumptions about this next update, but i've a felling it will be short and heavy handed on exposition again.
Look is like Fujino is moving from the main plot Kirito Asuna and Inoda to the sub plot Council and their plans, and this is a cardinal sin of story telling you don't change the basic core of the story, in this case Inoda ntr Asuna.
The sub plot or any secondary characters need to help the main plot progression, and this is not happening or hinted, because the council don't know or don't care about Inoda and Asuna and their motivation had nothing to do with that.
That is more or less Fujino using Asuna/Inoda as a simple hook or a build up for the next update, but this is a problem because most of the fans are awaiting for what brought them to this game Asuna/Inoda progression.
In any story you only can create build up to a point, after you need to give the pay off and Fujino is already inside this limit, if he keep holding, people will start loose the interest and he will try to do other plot twist like the council.
And this is bad because he is building up too much, when he start the pay off phase will be only this and the story will became dull and repetitive, because the other characters will have no space inside the plot.
 
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mos555

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it's early to make assumptions about this next update, but i've a felling it will be short and heavy handed on exposition again.
Look is like Fujino is moving from the main plot Kirito Asuna and Inoda to the sub plot Council and their plans, and this is a cardinal sin of story telling you don't change the basic core of the story, in this case Inoda ntr Asuna.
The sub plot or any secondary characters need to help the main plot progression, and this is not happening or hinted, because the council don't know or don't care about Inoda and Asuna and their motivation had nothing to do with that.
That is more or less Fujino using Asuna/Inoda as a simple hook or a build up for the next update, but this is a problem because most of the fans are awaiting for what brought them to this game Asuna/Inoda progression.
In any story you only can create build up to a point, after you need to give the pay off and Fujino is already inside this limit, if he keep holding, people will start loose the interest and he will try to do other plot twist like the council.
And this is bad because he is building up too much, when he start the pay off phase will be only this and the story will became dull and repetitive, because the other characters will have no space inside the plot.
Well, maybe Fujino already has the whole current plot in his head. There are already approximate endings in the description of the perks, and Fujino just needs to bring the characters to them. But you're right, I think the narrative is very overloaded with unnecessary things. It would be better if the author took an example from the first part, where the NTR story be perfect without any unnecessary characters.

I don't know how informative the next update will be, but Fujino apparently hinted to us that we shouldn't wait for the fight scene, and that upsets me. :(
 

Infeno2.0

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Here's Fujino under stress trying to fix the game

Someone will tell me that's Kirito and Inoda merged "Kiroda" :LOL:
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pretty much like that.
But jokes aside that's why his chinese fans are mad, because even he knowing about the lack of maps and space he still wasting resources into secondary characters who nobody cares like Alice or Sinon
 
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mos555

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pretty much like that.
But jokes aside his chinese fans are mad, because even he knowing about the lack of maps and space he still wasting resources into secondary characters who nobody cares like Alice or Sinon
It's a pity that he can't just kill them. The game will become a drama and a thriller if he does.
 

Misarmor

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UNLESS, this whole secret council plot is a preparation for a cliffhanger/transition to a part 3 :p
As some other people have said, I have trouble picturing Fujino keeping up for much longer with all the issues he seems to have in regards to his current technical issues...
 

Infeno2.0

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Well, maybe Fujino already has the whole current plot in his head. There are already approximate endings in the description of the perks, and Fujino just needs to bring the characters to them. But you're right, I think the narrative is very overloaded with unnecessary things. It would be better if the author took an example from the first part, where the NTR story be perfect without any unnecessary characters.

I don't know how informative the next update will be, but Fujino apparently hinted to us that we shouldn't wait for the fight scene, and that upsets me. :(
I mean the structure is very similar to the last update, exposition on monday, then Sinon and council probrably, Laefa FOG and 1 or 2 Asuna scenes.

It's a pity that he can't just kill them. The game will become a drama and a thriller if he does.
The problem now for him will be that, the cat is out of the bag he don't have space but he manage to use the secondary characters how and why.
 

Infeno2.0

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UNLESS, this whole secret council plot is a preparation for a cliffhanger/transition to a part 3 :p
As some other people have said, I have trouble picturing Fujino keeping up for much longer with all the issues he seems to have in regards to his current technical issues...
This whole thing about maps is very bizzare, but solutions do exist. Part 3 only if he backtrack about finishing the game in one single interaction, but since he stiil update with lack of maps and whatnot i don't see he doing that.
 

Misarmor

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This whole thing about maps is very bizzare, but solutions do exist. Part 3 only if he backtrack about finishing the game in one single interaction, but since he stiil update with lack of maps and whatnot i don't see he doing that.
As someone pointed out in his latest Patreon post, his game is already a whole GB heavier than part 1. This doesn't make much sense to continue further (if he follows the same logic as he did when he split part 1 and part 2) unless he's really close to the end of the whole thing
 

Infeno2.0

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As someone pointed out in his latest Patreon post, his game is already a whole GB heavier than part 1. This doesn't make much sense to continue further (if he follows the same logic as he did when he split part 1 and part 2) unless he's really close to the end of the whole thing.
About the file size is already in what 3.2gb quite big for a rpgm game if you ask me, and some of his patreons already complain about the size and the mega nz transfer rate limit asking Fujino to use another service, the mega nz limit is 5GB a day for free users.
Well about the ending after this update will remain 8 to go, the problem is Fujino need to do at least 20 to 25 scenes with Asuna alone if he want to fill her grid in the recollection room. If the trend continue he will need another 1000 maps to finish the game.
 

oozaru2023

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At this point and in my personal opinion I say that Alice's plot is already in vain, and "sinon" follows the same path, maybe he put it in to please his burned Chinese fans who like the NTR type of hypnosis, that was the problem that I had already imagined since because of some traumatized fans voted to eliminate all the NPC stories, like the mother in the park or the guy in the dress shop, or the girls at school who at least contributed something different since the entire city there are always NTR everywhere, now that there are no NPCs the focus was on Alice and Sinon that in a short time their story began to become boring, Well there are the results of your ridiculous vote, now let's see how the rest of the plot develops. Although the change certainly improved Asuna's plot, it made the others worse.
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Leo D. Marstone

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Well about the ending after this update will remain 8 to go, the problem is Fujino need to do at least 20 to 25 scenes with Asuna alone if he want to fill her grid in the recollection room. If the trend continue he will need another 1000 maps to finish the game.
8 updates left until finished?
With his update cycle that takes us what...another year?.

Also why the hate about asuna? The game is all about asuna getting dick from inoda. Side characters are fine but asuna can get all the scenes for what I care xD
 

Infeno2.0

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8 updates left until finished?
With his update cycle that takes us what...another year?.

Also why the hate about asuna? The game is all about asuna getting dick from inoda. Side characters are fine but asuna can get all the scenes for what I care xD
At least 8 months or more, about Asuna is not hate i'm also want to see more of her, the problem is Fujino holding her scenes too much, he should be doing at least 3 scenes with her per update, and give some time for the other characters as well, but since he is having problems with the RPGM space he will not at least for now, be able to do that.
 

SixDates

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he should be doing at least 3 scenes with her per update,
Absolutely right brother.
As a bare minimum, each update should at the very least have; 3 Asuna scenes, 2 Kyoko & Liz scenes, 1 Alice event if possible, and 2 or 3 dozens Suguha scenes.

I don't get why Fujino doesn't simply make more scenes.

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