The thing i think people didin't like was the fake Kirito scene as trigger, if you think about it that was unnecessary, the way Inoda manipulate her about her putting to much pressure in Kirito and his performance issues was enough.
Let's face it 4 Inoda need all the help he can get and then some, even in Fujino universe that guy never would pull that off without helpYeah, very believable if literally every character in the game is involved in making the 'fall' happen!
I mean if you really think about it, that's kind of what happens in a lot of NTRs to begin with. The entire world is against the MC because that's kind of the whole point of the story. On a more technical/nit-picky aspect though, our viewpoint of the whole situation is more bias and omniscient to the whole thing. Like everything going from Kirito and Asuna's current perspectives, the only people seemingly causing Asuna's fall is just Inoda and Liz. Suguha, Alice, Klein, and council's interaction is something the characters have zero clue as to what's going on. And sure it's really "convenient" that everyone acts in a certain way to all coincide with making Asuna fall, but it is what it is.Yeah, very believable if literally every character in the game is involved in making the 'fall' happen!
The pressure statement from Inoda wouldn't have been enough to convince Asuna. Inoda could have mentioned the small penis, and pressure stuff about Kirito, but Asuna would have probably took that as a sign to talk to Kirito and reconcile their relationship. What's important is that Asuna is distraught and significantly vulnerable by believing that Kirito is banging a girl in the underground. The scene she sees is what makes Inoda's story even more believable to her, and it also makes her less resistant to his advances to get her to the point of having virtual sex. A lot of the virtual sex is Inoda taking advantage of her extremely confused mind/state, and manipulating the kind of conclusion she'll get to from the circumstances surrounding her situation.
That is not true. Think in Part 1 whose help did Inoda have? He planned those thugs to attack Asuna so he can save her and get her into his debt. He stole Kirito's apartment key so Asuna can't go there during Lustful Night. He used his Asuna's sympathy and Kirito not seeing him as threat to get away from his crimes. All his wins were from his efforts alone. Only in Part 2 did he get all the help from Liz, Kyouko, and even divine help from Administrator.
Going to undercity was expected but you have to admit, the timing was too perfect and beyond coincidence. The fact that when Asuna was looking for Kirito in the brothel at the exact moment that Flora and her partner having the item/spell to make her partner look like Kirito was a Administrator perfectly timed event. I admit the event was necessary since without the shock of seeing Kirito with another women Asuna would not have agreed to Inoda's BS reasoning about Kirito's stress but I did not like the circumstances of the event.
I will concede that the fake Kirito being too coincidental is probably its biggest flaw since I remember discussing months ago that I think that the whole endgame plan/hint was that Flora was going to take Kirito into her room and either rape him, or do enough suggestive things for Asuna to at least get shocked. It would have made more sense to go this route, considering that Suguha in her Flora persona would be able to get away with it, since Kirito for whatever reason cannot tell it's Leafa at all rofl.
Seriously the easier and more believable scenario for me would be Kirito coincidentally meets Flora in the brothel. He needs to search her room and she lets him. She uses her freeze ability on Kirito and then does some sexual activity on his frozen body. This is when Asuna sees them. They would be more likely to believe it is Kirito since they know Kirito doesn't move much during sex.
NTR and happy endings is only possible when you can avoid the NTR, but your analogy with Far Cry 4 ending when you do nothing and win is good if Kirito also do nothing and leave all behind.
A golden rule of storytelling: if you can achieve the same result without using 10 characters, then don't use them
tbh, idk why he changed that, it worked just fine in part one, simple and effective
never cared about the franchise,this game story and characters are top tier
I agree part 1 he did everything by himself, but this actual Inoda version was lobotomize by Fujino in order for the other characters he push into the story had something to do, this Inoda version need all the help he can get or what the plot demand.
My only guess is that Fujino doesn't know how to distract Kirito anymore, so he made up a grand quest to keep Kirito away from Asuna and Inoda.A golden rule of storytelling: if you can achieve the same result without using 10 characters, then don't use them
Everything is technically a coincidence if you twist it or look too deep into it. But what makes your Flora one better or more believable is that all the knowledge for that event to happen was established earlier in the story. It makes this interaction between Kirito and Flora sound like the most reasonable conclusion based off previous events. And the build up of getting Asuna into the undercity has also been building up for this exact moment. So when both sides collide, we get Asuna taking the virtual plunge herself due to her misunderstanding of the situation.Seriously the easier and more believable scenario for me would be Kirito coincidentally meets Flora in the brothel. He needs to search her room and she lets him. She uses her freeze ability on Kirito and then does some sexual activity on his frozen body. This is when Asuna sees them. They would be more likely to believe it is Kirito since they know Kirito doesn't move much during sex.
Still some coincidences but a lot more believable.
Usually this routine is not shown to us... I'm not an expert in NTR, but I wonder why the authors do such plot moves at all, as Fujino did in the last update. This is a rather cliched move - the erroneous detection of a partner's infidelity and revenge in response, but why are the authors trying to justify the character who is cheating in this way?
That's what I was thinking the Moment Insaw the scene. Also, with her time-stop ability, you could even explain why he was away for so long. The only thing that didn't fit was him talking during the scene.Seriously the easier and more believable scenario for me would be Kirito coincidentally meets Flora in the brothel. He needs to search her room and she lets him. She uses her freeze ability on Kirito and then does some sexual activity on his frozen body. This is when Asuna sees them. They would be more likely to believe it is Kirito since they know Kirito doesn't move much during sex.
Still some coincidences but a lot more believable.
The problem with that is simple, like King and 4 already said, plot device/convinience they need to be used in small doses otherwise you break the suspension of disbelief from the reader/player.
