RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.702] [Fujino]

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Yeah, that was my assumption right from the start. I don't see a reason for her to get rid of Hebi right now. She is fine with doing whatever pleases her, so Hebi is her friend with benefits when Kirito isn't available. Maybe it will actually be Sinon who gets rid of Hebi, which would lead Suguha to become even more bold towards Kirito. Who knows?

I actually disagree with everyone thinking of this, though it may just be because of me disliking Hebishima/recalling that the only real option seemingly is to GET RID of him: Suguha plain out DISLIKES him heavily, and while not really caring about having sex with him she does not actively SEEKS IT either anymore. Reminder that, as of the last update, she was actively DENYING him sex in the brothel and would have actually managed it if he didn't offer the discount for his cameras, and before that the AV was just full-on a transaction for her, same reason why she's working as Flora but picking up her clients/refusing to go all the way. Unlike the way it seemed to go before the new route for her character appeared, Suguha is no longer not going down the route of 'seeking out' Hebishima anymore, she's outright denying him and even having fun screwing him over, she's no longer 'addicted' or 'on her way of becoming permanently addicted' to him like Sinon is and seemed was gonna be her fate back in Part 1 (The brothel basically implied that they hadn't fucked IRL since the 'Not-Date' night despite Hebishima wishing otherwise, probably as a direct result of her new 'mindset'). Like, she literally OUT-FUCKED HIM (The Cliche NTR Blonde dude) by roleplaying she was fucking Kazuto instead, while he clearly was cringing at the 'dialogue' of the AV and was left half-dead after just one 'round', because apparently she got THAT wild when she fantasizes about him XD

It may not be her directly who gets rid of him (Which would suck tbh as it really feels like it was being a great setup for her to show she had fully turned around the NTR plot in the most original/impossible way), but unless Fujino suddenly decides to make her fall for the NTR power again, she also doesn't seem like she even considers Hebishima a friend with benefits anymore, she's no longer even longing to have sex with him, and was looking forward to having Kirito's unconscious body at her mercy more :3

I can see the anti-invisibility item used in one of two ways.
1. It works on Inoda's ability. Near the end of the game Kirito a choice to use the item to expose Inoda and Asuna leading to cuckold ending or not using the item leading to obvious ending.
2. It does not work on Inoda's ability. Around the middle of the game Kirito will be suspicious and try to use the item to expose Inoda. But Inoda's ability is not from the game, but from Administrator so it does not work. Kirito is embarrassed and does not try anything anymore so the lovebirds can do they want without fear. Sorta like what happened in the nurse's office in Part 1.

Not to burst the bubbles of this theory, but reminder that we already KNOW the anti-invisibility thingie doesn't work thanks to Fujino full-on wanting to make the plots separated regardless of how much it stretches the Suspension of Disbelief or plot-holes: Besides Alice saying all that stuff was a one-time-use thing; if it wasn't then it would have 100% activated when Kirito walked to where Inoda was face-fucking Asuna, but his ability went completely unimpeded. So this either means it was indeed a one-time-use thing or that Inoda's ability is so godly that it transcends such pesky items, LOL

 

[4-kun]

I actually disagree with everyone thinking of this, though it may just be because of me disliking Hebishima/recalling that the only real option seemingly is to GET RID of him: Suguha plain out DISLIKES him heavily, and while not really caring about having sex with him she does not actively SEEKS IT either anymore. Reminder that, as of the last update, she was actively DENYING him sex in the brothel and would have actually managed it if he didn't offer the discount for his cameras, and before that the AV was just full-on a transaction for her, same reason why she's working as Flora but picking up her clients/refusing to go all the way. Unlike the way it seemed to go before the new route for her character appeared, Suguha is no longer not going down the route of 'seeking out' Hebishima anymore, she's outright denying him and even having fun screwing him over, she's no longer 'addicted' or 'on her way of becoming permanently addicted' to him like Sinon is and seemed was gonna be her fate back in Part 1 (The brothel basically implied that they hadn't fucked IRL since the 'Not-Date' night despite Hebishima wishing otherwise, probably as a direct result of her new 'mindset'). Like, she literally OUT-FUCKED HIM (The Cliche NTR Blonde dude) by roleplaying she was fucking Kazuto instead, while he clearly was cringing at the 'dialogue' of the AV and was left half-dead after just one 'round', because apparently she got THAT wild when she fantasizes about him XD

It may not be her directly who gets rid of him (Which would suck tbh as it really feels like it was being a great setup for her to show she had fully turned around the NTR plot in the most original/impossible way), but unless Fujino suddenly decides to make her fall for the NTR power again, she also doesn't seem like she even considers Hebishima a friend with benefits anymore, she's no longer even longing to have sex with him, and was looking forward to having Kirito's unconscious body at her mercy more :3

I don't mean it literally. It's more like "friends with benefits." As we see now, he still has something to offer her, so why not use him? Also, now that she is fully awakened to her feelings and drive, she'll still need some relief from time to time, I believe. Maybe she will use him to get some "medicine" from Kirito—who knows?

But it's all really vague still, so it's not a prediction or something like that, but rather me thinking out loud. I'm still prepared that everything will go "wrong" so, let's see. I hope we will see some more developement to her story next update, even without real new CGs, still be fine by me.

 

[gaka200]

Do we know Fujino wanted plots to be separate? I don't remember Fujino ever saying that. I thought he dumped Part 1's NPC plotlines because they were random and unconnected. So why bother creating new unconnected plotlines with canon characters? If you remind me when he said the plotlines are suppose to be separate that would be great. Also even if the items are one-use items doesn't mean Kirito can't get more copies of the item. They are just lines of code in FOG after all.

I'm in the camp, where Fujino isn't trying to keep the plots separated. At the current moment, they're separate, but they're probably meant to connect to each other at some point much later down the line. One could argue that the idea was thrown away, but nonetheless the idea is there that they're going to connect at some point. The best example of this is the first time Kirito, Klein, and Alice go into the underground area. When they end up leaving, they leave the area and log out in the town. You'll be able to see Inoda and Liz watching their interaction whilst invisible.

I don't know how connected the plot lines will be, but I wouldn't be surprised if they connect at some point. The current stages of each plot line though don't really require any reason for them to intertwine yet.

But some obvious examples of them intertwining, is that for whatever reason Inoda might bring Asuna (when she's more corrupted) into the underground so they can have sex in one of the brothel rooms. It doesn't mean that Asuna will be for other people, since it matches up with Inoda wanting to show off that he bagged a hot chick. But anyways, the plot might have it so that Asuna sees Leafa coming onto Kirito, or Leafa taking Kirito into a room. The general point being like it'll just make Asuna fall further and think it's more justified to be with Inoda.

Will this happen? I don't know. The hypothetical example is to just showcase there's things that can be done when the stories start intersecting. The only reason they're not is that they're still establishing where they all want to go in their respective story lines.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Do we know Fujino wanted plots to be separate? I don't remember Fujino ever saying that. I thought he dumped Part 1's NPC plotlines because they were random and unconnected. So why bother creating new unconnected plotlines with canon characters? If you remind me when he said the plotlines are suppose to be separate that would be great. Also even if the items are one-use items doesn't mean Kirito can't get more copies of the item. They are just lines of code in FOG after all.

I mean, it's not that Fujino said it, it's just how he has been going about them constantly so far: There were several parts of the game where the plots could have mixed or interactions between characters of the different plots happened during them only for plot-convenience and more to prevent it, the only times Fujino has had the plots 'connect' is in indirect ways or ways that still go out fo their way to prevent the characters from interacting with each other as much as he can (Reminder that only Kirito has 'seen' Sinon at all onscreen outside Suguha doing so offscreen, Leafa and Alice have never once interacted with Asuna, Inoda, or Liz at all despite Alice literally once walking into the cafe while Kirito was reunited with both girls, Klein never once interacted with anyone else despite canonically knowing the main gang and having been literally outside the treehouse when that latest scene happened, etc (Not to mention the more plot-convenient aspects like Leafa working at the brothel that apparently the very same dangerous criminals with access to brainwashing tech that Alice was chasing run, being a top-prostitute on it even, but not having been targeted at all, because it has nothing to do with her LOL). Fujino clearly tries to prevent the plots from crossing over as much as he can, maybe because he thinks doing so would 'ruin' them if he allowed them to do so (Like how we know CLEARLY that Suguha would very much lose it if she discovered the whole thing between Inoda and Asuna, or even Liz, which anyone with half a braincell that Asuna and Kirito lack would figure out by interacting long enough with them in VR, so yeah).

I don't mean it literally. It's more like "friends with benefits." As we see now, he still has something to offer her, so why not use him? Also, now that she is fully awakened to her feelings and drive, she'll still need some relief from time to time, I believe. Maybe she will use him to get some "medicine" from Kirito—who knows?

But it's all really vague still, so it's not a prediction or something like that, but rather me thinking out loud. I'm still prepared that everything will go "wrong" so, let's see. I hope we will see some more developement to her story next update, even without real new CGs, still be fine by me.

That all falls apart with how she has been portrayed now, though, she clearly no longer cares for nor WANTS to have sex with him, which is the biggest thing. So yeah, unless everything 'goes wrong' now, Suguha clearly doesn't really want to keep fucking Hebishima, so that's probably the last thing to overcome.

Also, reminder, Fujino's latest report literally confirms she has 2 CGs, so we do know something DOES happen, the question is if that's gone be her getting "not-NTR-ed" again or if it will show what she's doing with Kirito while he's online getting actually NTR-ed XD

 

[gaka200]

I don't mean it literally. It's more like "friends with benefits." As we see now, he still has something to offer her, so why not use him? Also, now that she is fully awakened to her feelings and drive, she'll still need some relief from time to time, I believe. Maybe she will use him to get some "medicine" from Kirito—who knows?

But it's all really vague still, so it's not a prediction or something like that, but rather me thinking out loud. I'm still prepared that everything will go "wrong" so, let's see. I hope we will see some more developement to her story next update, even without real new CGs, still be fine by me.

I agree with you, because she can't actively have sex with Kirito when he's "awake", that would make Hebishima the next best thing. Cause the AV in my opinion is just an example of how Suguha views Hebishima, which is just a friends with benefits kind of relationship. She'll use him to get herself off while she's imagining it's Kirito.

Cause clearly she was going to have sex with Hebishima in the previous update. But she made that whole comment on how he took 30 minutes to arrive, so she's no longer in the mood. It's entirely possible they still ended up banging, since she wants the camera equipment, but the point is that she's still having sex with Hebishima. She just views him as a dildo is how I see it, considering that she'll still make him pay.

 

[4-kun]

That all falls apart with how she has been portrayed now, though, she clearly no longer cares for nor WANTS to have sex with him, which is the biggest thing. So yeah, unless everything 'goes wrong' now, Suguha clearly doesn't really want to keep fucking Hebishima, so that's probably the last thing to overcome.

Also, reminder, Fujino's latest report literally confirms she has 2 CGs, so we do know something DOES happen, the question is if that's gone be her getting "not-NTR-ed" again or if it will show what she's doing with Kirito while he's online getting actually NTR-ed XD

I want to argue because I think it could go either way, tbh. It's just a feeling that things won't go the logical way too soon, just because Fujino still needs Habi to be around for some time. He won't want to waste an NTR-Dude doing nothing, I think. Even if we exclude Suguha, there is still Sinon who needs a new 'goal'

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I want to argue because I think it could go either way, tbh. It's just a feeling that things won't go the logical way too soon, just because Fujino still needs Habi to be around for some time. He won't want to waste an NTR-Dude doing nothing, I think. Even if we exclude Suguha, there is still Sinon who needs a new 'goal'

I mean, that's all under the assumption Fujino didn't decide to completely derail the Suguha plot-line from the expected cliches, which...he kinda did? It was shaping to be forever a not-NTR-cliche that wouldn't really ever change as so little while ago as of the "not-date" the siblings had, yet it suddenly did a 180º change that not only was completely out of left field but also went against all the logic of how NTR plots usually go, but despite a fakeout it doubled down on it with every update since them apparently. Hebishima just very clearly seems to be being set up to be removed like the poll of a while ago proposed, otherwise there would have been no need for Fujino to set not only Suguha getting free from him but also Sinon completely losing her 'slave-like' devotion for him AND him suddenly having absolutely no income and apparently being broke IRL, like, if he only wanted to keep him around still doing all that to him would make no sense, just the Suguha plot as it is would have been enough but Fujino just continues to make it seem like everything around Hebishima is collapsing like there would be no reason to do if his life getting screwed wasn't literally part of the plot :O

Mind you, there is still a small chance for a turnaround for the sake of NTR, but at this point I just really don't see it. Being fair though, we will have to wait and see for at least the next update and see what happens, I suppose XP

 

[Vampire_Lord]

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[SixDates]

AND him suddenly having absolutely no income and apparently being broke IRL, like, if he only wanted to keep him around still doing all that to him would make no sense, just the Suguha plot as it is would have been enough but Fujino just continues to make it seem like everything around Hebishima is collapsing like there would be no reason to do if his life getting screwed wasn't literally part of the plot :O

Mind you, there is still a small chance for a turnaround for the sake of NTR, but at this point I just really don't see it. Being fair though, we will have to wait and see for at least the next update and see what happens, I suppose XP

Well, the whole downwards spiral of Hebishima's life might be a set up for what we have already seen him do with Sinon. Drugging her and literally selling her off to the nearest ugly bastard for a few bucks. Fujino could have push him down to give an explanation as to why he would do the same with Suguha even if he previously acted possessive of her. Although Suguha becoming a town's whore, virtually or not, might not be what most of us wants, it could still happen.

How much is there left until the game ends? I believe that at the bear minimum we have 7 to 8 updates to go through, probably even more, so if that were the case. What would Fujino do during the remaining of the game when 2 out of his 5 heroines don't have a partner for """NTR""" sex? We are way too late into the story for Suguha or Sinon to get a new "bull", so Hebishima is still needed in my eyes.

I would have been more optimistic about the possibility of Suguha cutting off Hebishima and her "fallen" future had everything that happened, occurred later when Asuna was closer to completly be corrupted. As of now we have way too much game to go through without further corruption for them.

 

[Hypno133]

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[4-kun]

I mean, that's all under the assumption Fujino didn't decide to completely derail the Suguha plot-line from the expected cliches, which...he kinda did? It was shaping to be forever a not-NTR-cliche that wouldn't really ever change as so little while ago as of the "not-date" the siblings had, yet it suddenly did a 180º change that not only was completely out of left field but also went against all the logic of how NTR plots usually go, but despite a fakeout it doubled down on it with every update since them apparently. Hebishima just very clearly seems to be being set up to be removed like the poll of a while ago proposed, otherwise there would have been no need for Fujino to set not only Suguha getting free from him but also Sinon completely losing her 'slave-like' devotion for him AND him suddenly having absolutely no income and apparently being broke IRL, like, if he only wanted to keep him around still doing all that to him would make no sense, just the Suguha plot as it is would have been enough but Fujino just continues to make it seem like everything around Hebishima is collapsing like there would be no reason to do if his life getting screwed wasn't literally part of the plot :O

Mind you, there is still a small chance for a turnaround for the sake of NTR, but at this point I just really don't see it. Being fair though, we will have to wait and see for at least the next update and see what happens, I suppose XP

To be clear, I don't disagree with you. Those are all valid points, and I would like things to play out that way.
But from a development and game flow perspective, I have my doubts. If Sugu goes fully for Kirito, I'm asking myself how far it can go and how the scenes will develop. There isn't much scene diversity to pull off from a dude just lying around. That's what makes me think that there will be someone else around Sugu. If not Hebi, then someone else needs to fill the gap. Maybe she will just work in the undercity and we will get new scenes from there, but it's a bit uninspiring, tbh. As for now, it's really hard to tell what will happen; there are way too many uncertainties. I guess we need to wait for more updates.

 

[gaka200]

To be clear, I don't disagree with you. Those are all valid points, and I would like things to play out that way.
But from a development and game flow perspective, I have my doubts. If Sugu goes fully for Kirito, I'm asking myself how far it can go and how the scenes will develop. There isn't much scene diversity to pull off from a dude just lying around. That's what makes me think that there will be someone else around Sugu. If not Hebi, then someone else needs to fill the gap. Maybe she will just work in the undercity and we will get new scenes from there, but it's a bit uninspiring, tbh. As for now, it's really hard to tell what will happen; there are way too many uncertainties. I guess we need to wait for more updates.

Leafa related scenes seem like they can be more common. But Suguha herself is the only weird one. I'd just imagine that Hebishima is gonna stick around for a little while so that we can still find scenes of Suguha doing things. But yeah no clue where we're going. It's entirely possible the game will just speed up a lot with Asuna getting corrupted faster and faster, which would not ruin the pacing since it's like a snowball effect once the banging happens lol.

So I guess the "CG Hunt" part might be Sinon and Alice related/focused?

It's also possible that the uninspiring "AV" or "undercity" things that pop up with Leafa/Suguha might be ok for a short time, and maybe a short enough time to not overstay its welcome? Who knows really?

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Well, the whole downwards spiral of Hebishima's life might be a set up for what we have already seen him do with Sinon. Drugging her and literally selling her off to the nearest ugly bastard for a few bucks. Fujino could have push him down to give an explanation as to why he would do the same with Suguha even if he previously acted possessive of her. Although Suguha becoming a town's whore, virtually or not, might not be what most of us wants, it could still happen.

How much is there left until the game ends? I believe that at the bear minimum we have 7 to 8 updates to go through, probably even more, so if that were the case. What would Fujino do during the remaining of the game when 2 out of his 5 heroines don't have a partner for """NTR""" sex? We are way too late into the story for Suguha or Sinon to get a new "bull", so Hebishima is still needed in my eyes.

I would have been more optimistic about the possibility of Suguha cutting off Hebishima and her "fallen" future had everything that happened, occurred later when Asuna was closer to completly be corrupted. As of now we have way too much game to go through without further corruption for them.

To be clear, I don't disagree with you. Those are all valid points, and I would like things to play out that way.
But from a development and game flow perspective, I have my doubts. If Sugu goes fully for Kirito, I'm asking myself how far it can go and how the scenes will develop. There isn't much scene diversity to pull off from a dude just lying around. That's what makes me think that there will be someone else around Sugu. If not Hebi, then someone else needs to fill the gap. Maybe she will just work in the undercity and we will get new scenes from there, but it's a bit uninspiring, tbh. As for now, it's really hard to tell what will happen; there are way too many uncertainties. I guess we need to wait for more updates.

Putting aside that everyone's assumptions of how much of the game may be left could be completely wrong, especially as Fujino's writing could super-speed-up at any moment and still be faithful to his usual way of writing games (Which IMO it already has given how fast Asuna's second full-on-willing sex scene with Asuna is happening, VR or not), the things is that Hebishima can't really do that to Sugu because he SAID IT OUT LOUD IN FRONT OF HER XD She even got mad about it and told him to fuck off when he did, with such a blatant writting-hook there is no way that ends up happening when she's not only no longer even remotely the naive girl Fujino wrote her as for it to happen originally (Canon Suguha would have never been convinced to drink a spiked drink from Hebishima in the first place), she's not gonna just let him drug her at all and clearly has started outwitting him in general, so at this point the only REAL way Hebishima could "get her back" is if she was still addicted to his dick, which all plot-points seem to point otherwise.

Idk, maybe is because I'm taking Fujino's writing with another view based on previous games and the completely unexpected twists that happened with Suguha's plot that are so out of left field both for him and NTR games in general, but I really can't see why Suguha just taking advantage of Kirito can't be her new way of generating scenes after Hebishima is gone. Reminder, unlike Inoda, Sugu is part of the "problem" most people bitched to Fujino about so much that took away from the main plot, so him doing whatever he wants with her character wouldn't really be an issue, not that he hasn't already: DO you think that most of the people who came to this game just to see "SAO NTR", or more like to see Asuna being stolen from Kirito, had any real positive reaction to Suguha suddenly going down this route XP? Fujino was already pissing people off by doing this at all and by not making this game "95% Inoda fucking Asuna and just 5% of the other characters showing up", so he may as well keep doing his own thing even if he keeps going against the 'cliche standards'. Therefore Suguha doesn't really NEED 'someone else' to fuck her if she has fully taken control of her own route now as she seemingly has XP

But yeah, at the end of the day this is all just speculation on both sides, especially as we have acknowledged it's not impossible for Fujino to still throw all that development to the trash and have her once again fall to Hebishima's dick despite everything pointing otherwise, so I guess this next update may be what fully decides what he's gonna do with her. One week or so to see it, regardless of what happens!

 

[SixDates]

Putting aside that everyone's assumptions of how much of the game may be left could be completely wrong, especially as Fujino's writing could super-speed-up at any moment and still be faithful to his usual way of writing games (Which IMO it already has given how fast Asuna's second full-on-willing sex scene with Asuna is happening, VR or not), the things is that Hebishima can't really do that to Sugu because he SAID IT OUT LOUD IN FRONT OF HER XD She even got mad about it and told him to fuck off when he did, with such a blatant writting-hook there is no way that ends up happening when she's not only no longer even remotely the naive girl Fujino wrote her as for it to happen originally (Canon Suguha would have never been convinced to drink a spiked drink from Hebishima in the first place), she's not gonna just let him drug her at all and clearly has started outwitting him in general, so at this point the only REAL way Hebishima could "get her back" is if she was still addicted to his dick, which all plot-points seem to point otherwise.

Idk, maybe is because I'm taking Fujino's writing with another view based on previous games and the completely unexpected twists that happened with Suguha's plot that are so out of left field both for him and NTR games in general, but I really can't see why Suguha just taking advantage of Kirito can't be her new way of generating scenes after Hebishima is gone. Reminder, unlike Inoda, Sugu is part of the "problem" most people bitched to Fujino about so much that took away from the main plot, so him doing whatever he wants with her character wouldn't really be an issue, not that he hasn't already: DO you think that most of the people who came to this game just to see "SAO NTR", or more like to see Asuna being stolen from Kirito, had any real positive reaction to Suguha suddenly going down this route XP? Fujino was already pissing people off by doing this at all and by not making this game "95% Inoda fucking Asuna and just 5% of the other characters showing up", so he may as well keep doing his own thing even if he keeps going against the 'cliche standards'. Therefore Suguha doesn't really NEED 'someone else' to fuck her if she has fully taken control of her own route now as she seemingly has XP

But yeah, at the end of the day this is all just speculation on both sides, especially as we have acknowledged it's not impossible for Fujino to still throw all that development to the trash and have her once again fall to Hebishima's dick despite everything pointing otherwise, so I guess this next update may be what fully decides what he's gonna do with her. One week or so to see it, regardless of what happens!

To be completly honest, when I said that there still is a long way to go until the game ends, I was mostly speaking from a hopeful perspective that Fujino will at the very least corrupt Asuna step by step now that we have arrived to her having sex with Inoda again. He could always speed everything up, and it would be consistent with his usual games where the ntr goes by faster than a speeding bullet. It's just that I would be a bit dissapointed since I believe the approach he took with this game, slow and not always straightforward corruption, is his best work so far.
(Even if Sakura is her hottest heroine so far.)

I have seen a lot of people complaining about the addition of the Administrator to the story, as it is a easy way for Fujino to do whatever he wants without bothering to properly setting it up since he can always say "the Administrator did it." But it seems to me like people forget that the entire premise of the game is mostly random plot convinces that not even God could justify, since the first part of the game until now.
The only reason Asuna agreed to start these ntr shenanigans was because Inoda just happened to overhear that they were going on a date, just for Kirito to forget his phone inside the arcade, Asuna to be randomly assaulted by three random criminals, and Kirito magically wasting 10 minutes to find his phone.

The entire game is filled with such scenarios, where we can obviously see that Fujino just creates situations to fuck over Kirito without much rhyme or reason, so for all we know Suguha might trip and fall into Hebishima's dick next update, fifty times in a row. So it's not like it would be hard for Fujino to come up with any random excuse for Hebishima to get the upper hand again. Everything depends on what sort of scenes he will want to create in the future, past this particular update.

I for one only hope for three things in the future.

1-Suguha not becoming a prostitute for Hebishima
2-That we get a progressive corruption of Asuna that isn't crazy fast.
3- Scenes that involve Kirito unaware that Asuna/Suguha are being fucked right next to him.
Just those things will make me happy no matter where Fujino takes the game.

 

[4-kun]

Putting aside that everyone's assumptions of how much of the game may be left could be completely wrong, especially as Fujino's writing could super-speed-up at any moment and still be faithful to his usual way of writing games (Which IMO it already has given how fast Asuna's second full-on-willing sex scene with Asuna is happening, VR or not), the things is that Hebishima can't really do that to Sugu because he SAID IT OUT LOUD IN FRONT OF HER XD She even got mad about it and told him to fuck off when he did, with such a blatant writting-hook there is no way that ends up happening when she's not only no longer even remotely the naive girl Fujino wrote her as for it to happen originally (Canon Suguha would have never been convinced to drink a spiked drink from Hebishima in the first place), she's not gonna just let him drug her at all and clearly has started outwitting him in general, so at this point the only REAL way Hebishima could "get her back" is if she was still addicted to his dick, which all plot-points seem to point otherwise.

Idk, maybe is because I'm taking Fujino's writing with another view based on previous games and the completely unexpected twists that happened with Suguha's plot that are so out of left field both for him and NTR games in general, but I really can't see why Suguha just taking advantage of Kirito can't be her new way of generating scenes after Hebishima is gone. Reminder, unlike Inoda, Sugu is part of the "problem" most people bitched to Fujino about so much that took away from the main plot, so him doing whatever he wants with her character wouldn't really be an issue, not that he hasn't already: DO you think that most of the people who came to this game just to see "SAO NTR", or more like to see Asuna being stolen from Kirito, had any real positive reaction to Suguha suddenly going down this route XP? Fujino was already pissing people off by doing this at all and by not making this game "95% Inoda fucking Asuna and just 5% of the other characters showing up", so he may as well keep doing his own thing even if he keeps going against the 'cliche standards'. Therefore Suguha doesn't really NEED 'someone else' to fuck her if she has fully taken control of her own route now as she seemingly has XP

But yeah, at the end of the day this is all just speculation on both sides, especially as we have acknowledged it's not impossible for Fujino to still throw all that development to the trash and have her once again fall to Hebishima's dick despite everything pointing otherwise, so I guess this next update may be what fully decides what he's gonna do with her. One week or so to see it, regardless of what happens!

I hope you're right, I really do.^^ but I wouldn't discard the possibility that Fujino is just building up tension and leading the player down the wrong path regarding a positive outcome for Sugu, just to crush her later down the track, as it's still an NTR game. It's not like we haven't seen extreme character changes for no logical reason

 

[kinglionheart]

I have seen a lot of people complaining about the addition of the Administrator to the story, as it is a easy way for Fujino to do whatever he wants without bothering to properly setting it up since he can always say "the Administrator did it." But it seems to me like people forget that the entire premise of the game is mostly random plot convinces that not even God could justify, since the first part of the game until now.
The only reason Asuna agreed to start these ntr shenanigans was because Inoda just happened to overhear that they were going on a date, just for Kirito to forget his phone inside the arcade, Asuna to be randomly assaulted by three random criminals, and Kirito magically wasting 10 minutes to find his phone.

For clarification the reason I dislike the addition of Administrator is because she cheapens a lot of effort Inoda did. You might not remember but a lot of random plot contrivance in Part 1 was not random, it was from Inoda's effort. Like the thugs that almost attacked Asuna they were unknowingly sent by Inoda or the Lustful Night only worked because Inoda took Kirito's spare key and researched how to properly pleasure Asuna.

But now with Administrator helping Inoda, no effort is needed from Inoda since he has the goddess' help. Or even his past success could be the work of the goddess now. It is disappointing since Inoda seemed like a underdog trying to get a girl out of his league using only his wit and big penis before Administrator showed up.

 

[SixDates]

I think that we have discussed the future of Suguha's arc more than enough already, because we are mostly going in circles talking about something he just can't predict. Although it may partially be my fault for constantly responding to the topic as well.
Now we only got to wait until Monday to know what Fujino intends to do, since I'm sure we will get a mostly definite answer by next update.


That being said, and to change the topic for a bit, what are you guys waiting for the most in future updates?
I'm mostly waiting for more battle harassment scenes, or just more scenes with Inoda's power being used since for something that is in the title we have gotten way too little content of his ability.

 

[kinglionheart]

I hope you're right, I really do.^^ but I wouldn't discard the possibility that Fujino is just building up tension and leading the player down the wrong path regarding a positive outcome for Sugu, just to crush her later down the track, as it's still an NTR game. It's not like we haven't seen extreme character changes for no logical reason

True enough. If Fujino didn't showed a different possibility for Suguha then none of us here would be talking about her so much. She would be another background character like Sinon.

 

[SixDates]

For clarification the reason I dislike the addition of Administrator is because she cheapens a lot of effort Inoda did. You might not remember but a lot of random plot contrivance in Part 1 was not random, it was from Inoda's effort. Like the thugs that almost attacked Asuna they were unknowingly sent by Inoda or the Lustful Night only worked because Inoda took Kirito's spare key and researched how to properly pleasure Asuna.

But now with Administrator helping Inoda, no effort is needed from Inoda since he has the goddess' help. It is disappointing since Inoda seemed like a underdog trying to get a girl out of his league using only his wit and big penis before Administrator showed up.

Okay, I not only played the first part as it came out, but I also recently replayed it with the new translation a few weeks ago, and I don’t remember a single bit about Inoda nudging the delinquents to assault Asuna back then. Like I have zero recollection of such a thing.
And while Inoda did take the spare key that lead to the stormy night sequence, I'm pretty sure that he did it without much consideration and he just lucked out that Asuna happened to need it. Since there was no way for Inoda to know that the next time that she would need the spare key would have been during a convenient typhoon.
I could be wrong, but I sincerely doubt that every coincidence throughout the game where explained, because there where several of them. Like Suguha asking Kirito to cover her shift the same day that Asuna got sick.

But it doesn't quite matter in the end, to me it was already obvious that the world bent backwards for Inoda just so he could steal Asuna, even if he did put an effort. Whatever that was Fujino's invisible hand of the author or an in-universe deity of some sort does not really change much from me.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

True enough. If Fujino didn't showed a different possibility for Suguha then none of us here would be talking about her so much. She would be another background character like Sinon.

I mean, I maybe would given she was always the main reason I was playing the game, but yeah, it's only Fujino's unexpected turn that really made her such a big topic of discussion here XP

Okay, I not only played the first part as it came out, but I also recently replayed it with the new translation a few weeks ago, and I don’t remember a single bit about Inoda nudging the delinquents to assault Asuna back then. Like I have zero recollection of such a thing.
And while Inoda did take the spare key that lead to the stormy night sequence, I'm pretty sure that he did it without much consideration and he just lucked out that Asuna happened to need it. Since there was no way for Inoda to know that the next time that she would need the spare key would have been during a convenient typhoon.
I could be wrong, but I sincerely doubt that every coincidence throughout the game where explained, because there where several of them. Like Suguha asking Kirito to cover her shift the same day that Asuna got sick.

But it doesn't quite matter in the end, to me it was already obvious that the world bent backwards for Inoda just so he could steal Asuna, even if he did put an effort. Whatever that was Fujino's invisible hand of the author or an in-universe deity of some sort does not really change much from me.

Yeah, this is probably why I don't really mind Administrator (And also that I'm mostly here for the Hentai than the main plot tbh), Fujino was already twisting the universe and the characters so Inoda could NTR Asuna and more, having an actual 'goddess' in the game to kinda justify it doesn't really change much for me :3 (Also, she's hot, so I'm still looking forward to the inevitable Administrator sex scene/s one day )