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why was Liz angry when she was knocking on Inoda's door, did he owe her money or does he know that he raped her?
I'm sure she knows he raped her, after all she planned to lose her v card that day to Kirito, but not sure how, Pignoda planted a sort sleep bomb and then put Kirito in bed again, and dragged her to the unoccupied ward tied her up, said they got kidnapped and he was forced to rape her if they wanted to stay alive. Any morron would know he was laying and Liz isn't a morron so yea.

Though the funny part is, when they fell asleep, the one coming into the room to drag her out, didn't look like Pignoda's sprite, but more like Sugu's sprite.

So my geuss is Sugu placed the trap, put Kirito in bed, dragged her to the unoccupied ward, Inoda was in the toilet of that ward, saw Sugu tie Liz up and then Sugu left and Pignoda took the oppertunity to rape her.
 

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I don't doubt he would want to fuck anyone he can get his dick into, but I think overall even if he was semi clever in Part 1, he hasn't really showcased the ability to actually really pull anything off himself. Suguha/Leafa seems way more paranoid and aware of things to even give Inoda the opportunity to do anything is how it feels like. Also if Hebishima couldn't win over Suguha, I doubt Inoda would be able to. But yeah, it's mainly that I think Inoda would recognize Suguha/Leafa more as a threat and convenient indirect ally towards him getting Asuna to further distance herself from Kirito.

Also in regards to Liz, I think Inoda thought he could at least semi get away with it. Suguha/Leafa probably won't believe a damn thing Inoda says and probably views her in the same light as Liz, which is basically an enemy/threat to Kirito.

But yeah, even if Inoda does end up fucking Suguha/Leafa, I doubt it'll really go anywhere positively for him, so it's probably not going to get written as such. Like Sinon was crazy enough to sex change Hebishima, so this means to some extent that Suguha knows the people available to also do the same shit to Inoda. Basically Fujino can't really write it in that Inoda is able to do anything to Suguha/Leafa, with the way things are right now.
Btw, what are you thought on Sinon and the dude from the council who wants to get rid of her? Maybe Sinon can outmanipulate all the dudes, turn them into girls and have her own harem from streams :LOL:
 
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I'm sure she knows he raped her, after all she planned to lose her v card that day to Kirito, but not sure how, Pignoda planted a sort sleep bomb and then put Kirito in bed again, and dragged her to the unoccupied ward tied her up, said they got kidnapped and he was forced to rape her if they wanted to stay alive. Any morron would know he was laying and Liz isn't a morron so yea.

Though the funny part is, when they fell asleep, the one coming into the room to drag her out, didn't look like Pignoda's sprite, but more like Sugu's sprite.
She was just planning to use an strong aphrodisiac on Kirito, which actually does exist it seems.
 

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Liz was in the wrong place at the wrong time
Pignoda only raped her i think not to add her to his harem, but to take revenge on her, she did always dominate him and made him lick her boots, and a freak like Pignoda can't stand that.
 

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but Inoda fucked Liz because she fainted after the kiss with Kirito and if she hadn't fainted, Inoda would have fucked her?
I'm sure she knows he raped her, after all she planned to lose her v card that day to Kirito, but not sure how, Pignoda planted a sort sleep bomb and then put Kirito in bed again, and dragged her to the unoccupied ward tied her up, said they got kidnapped and he was forced to rape her if they wanted to stay alive. Any morron would know he was laying and Liz isn't a morron so yea.

Though the funny part is, when they fell asleep, the one coming into the room to drag her out, didn't look like Pignoda's sprite, but more like Sugu's sprite.

So my geuss is Sugu placed the trap, put Kirito in bed, dragged her to the unoccupied ward, Inoda was in the toilet of that ward, saw Sugu tie Liz up and then Sugu left and Pignoda took the oppertunity to rape her.
You are mixing things up a bit. Sugu just put them to sleep, brought Liz to the ward and wrote a warning that she wan't let Liz play dirty on Kirito. It was Inoda who used duct tape, throw Suguhas note away and made his own to make it look like he was forced to rape her.
 
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Pignoda only raped her i think not to add her to his harem, but to take revenge on her, she did always dominate him and made him lick her boots, and a freak like Pignoda can't stand that.
Will Liz take revenge or will she jump on the dick?
 

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when Inoda fucks someone it looks like he wants to split their guts with his cock
That what I find weird about him, like when he took his revenge on Liz, by raping her, when he tried to break Asuna and each time he tried to break her more, his dick was gigantic, as if he kinda gets off on defiling girls, but the last few fucks with Asuna when she accept it more his dick wasn't as gigantic, like his dick was bored of an already almost broken Asuna.
 

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Btw, what are you thought on Sinon and the dude from the council who wants to get rid of her? Maybe Sinon can outmanipulate all the dudes, turn them into girls and have her own harem from streams :LOL:
If there is no ending where Kirito ends up Sinon and Suguha's toy, then Sinon is probably going to fail in whatever her goals are and end up the town bike (in FOG) is my guess as to where she's going. If there is an ending where Sinon and Suguha are with Kirito, then it's definitely because Sinon was able to out manipulate all the dudes. Sinon's future is up in the air because while she's suddenly become a lot more competent and aggressive compared to before, she hasn't really cemented herself in a place where she feels "safe".

Like Suguha compared to Sinon feels "safe". Suguha taking advantage of her body to get what she wants and not succumbing to typical NTR big dick is kind of the most OP ability a female can have in an NTR storyline. I don't know if Sinon is capable of resisting sex considering the main reason she's free from Hebishima's clutches has more to do with Hebishima getting bored with her, versus anything of her own free will. I doubt Fujino would delve psychologically how someone abused like that would end up becoming a dominatrix/femdom to regain a sense of power after being the submissive one to Hebishima this entire time. So there's no real deep character development to expect here.

A lot of Sinon's future is dependant on the "main plot line". What are the overall goals of the secret council and the administrator? Also what is Sinon's supposed wish since it sounds like the Administrator will grant something (I think this was mentioned somewhere).

As a side note, with the very little dialogue that the guy said in regards to an outside party, I would assume that Sinon has more resources (from her side of the secret council) and reflexes (they mention how she's a pro GOG player) to out manipulate and out maneuver her adversaries. I initially thought the guy was going to call up Hebishima to help him take down Sinon, but then that was thrown out the window when we saw what actually happened to him. XD

Another prediction I guess is that Sinon is probably the most active to bringing the administrator out, so maybe the administrator will just favor her completely to take down the other secret council member. It's not like she cared about Hebishima, and based off the interactions in the recollection room, it does seem like the administrator wants Sinon to corrupt Kirito. So having favor from the deus ex machina character gotta has some points in her favor I guess?

I do hope her interactions with Kirito does escalate to intercourse at some point.
 
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Will Liz take revenge or will she jump on the dick?
I'm not sure Liz wants to fuck him more, she doesn't seem to be the kinda girl, more a tomboy girl who like to dominate, so i'm more afraid she will want to revenge on Pignoda someway, unless Pignoda somehow manage to break her like Asuna, but yea that could risk his work on Asuna too.
 

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Inoda's most impressive feat was in Part 1 when he planned the thugs to attack Asuna so he can save her. Later he did take Kirito's spare key so Asuna could not go into Kirito's room during Lustful Night. So he is capable of planning and creating opportunities for himself. Everyone underestimate him and that is how he wins. Until Administrator level BS got involved anyway.
I agree with this, but also don't. Inoda showcases some cleverness, but compared to Suguha, I think he's lacking a lot. Like Suguha is being a crazy night hawk around Kirito with her cameras. She's also probably written in the least gullible way amongst the other female characters in the story so far. So I just think that like you said the opportunity won't be there. And I just think it's mainly because she kind of makes it impossible for the opportunity to present itself.

Like black mailing her would probably not do much other than make Inoda a target to eliminate. She's probably also physically stronger and much more aware of crazier shit to pull off than him.
 
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If there is no ending where Kirito ends up Sinon and Suguha's toy, then Sinon is probably going to fail in whatever her goals are and end up the town bike (in FOG) is my guess as to where she's going. If there is an ending where Sinon and Suguha are with Kirito, then it's definitely because Sinon was able to out manipulate all the dudes. Sinon's future is up in the air because while she's suddenly become a lot more competent and aggressive compared to before, she hasn't really cemented herself in a place where she feels "safe".

Like Suguha compared to Sinon feels "safe". Suguha taking advantage of her body to get what she wants and not succumbing to typical NTR big dick is kind of the most OP ability a female can have in an NTR storyline. I don't know if Sinon is capable of resisting sex considering the main reason she's free from Hebishima's clutches has more to do with Hebishima getting bored with her, versus anything of her own free will. I doubt Fujino would delve psychologically how someone abused like that would end up becoming a dominatrix/femdom to regain a sense of power after being the submissive one to Hebishima this entire time. So there's no real deep character development to expect here.

A lot of Sinon's future is dependant on the "main plot line". What are the overall goals of the secret council and the administrator? Also what is Sinon's supposed wish since it sounds like the Administrator will grant something (I think this was mentioned somewhere).

As a side note, with the very little dialogue that the guy said in regards to an outside party, I would assume that Sinon has more resources (from her side of the secret council) and reflexes (they mention how she's a pro GOG player) to out manipulate and out maneuver her adversaries. I initially thought the guy was going to call up Hebishima to help him take down Sinon, but then that was thrown out the window when we saw what actually happened to him. XD

Another prediction I guess is that Sinon is probably the most active to bringing the administrator out, so maybe the administrator will just favor her completely to take down the other secret council member. It's not like she cared about Hebishima, and based off the interactions in the recollection room, it does seem like the administrator wants Sinon to corrupt Kirito. So having favor from the deus ex machina character gotta has some points in her favor I guess?

I do hope her interactions with Kirito does escalate to intercourse at some point.
Yeah, that pretty much aligns with my thoughts. I really wonder what the Admin is trying to achieve. I mean, her main plot was announced like three updates ago, but nothing significant has happened so far. I think the problem with Sinon is that she seems a bit too overconfident. She’s not as stupid as Liz, but still.
 

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I agree with this, but also don't. Inoda showcases some cleverness, but compared to Suguha, I think he's lacking a lot. Like Suguha is being a crazy night hawk around Kirito with her cameras. She's also probably written in the least gullible way amongst the other female characters in the story so far. So I just think that like you said the opportunity won't be there. And I just think it's mainly because she kind of makes it impossible for the opportunity to present itself.

Like black mailing her would probably not do much other than make Inoda a target to eliminate. She's probably also physically stronger and much more aware of crazier shit to pull off than him.
In Part 1 Sugu didn't do much about what Pignoda did to Asuna, she was to bussy with Hibs. It only on part 2 she suddenly got more interested in her brother.
 

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I agree with this, but also don't. Inoda showcases some cleverness, but compared to Suguha, I think he's lacking a lot. Like Suguha is being a crazy night hawk around Kirito with her cameras. She's also probably written in the least gullible way amongst the other female characters in the story so far. So I just think that like you said the opportunity won't be there. And I just think it's mainly because she kind of makes it impossible for the opportunity to present itself.

Like black mailing her would probably not do much other than make Inoda a target to eliminate. She's probably also physically stronger and much more aware of crazier shit to pull off than him.
Agree, she is the only one who is actually playing it safe. She knows her boundaries. The only realistic risk I see for her is being dragged into Sinon's conflict. Also don't see a natural way for her too fall for some dude without drugs or mind control. But that is already Alice's story.
 

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I agree with this, but also don't. Inoda showcases some cleverness, but compared to Suguha, I think he's lacking a lot. Like Suguha is being a crazy night hawk around Kirito with her cameras. She's also probably written in the least gullible way amongst the other female characters in the story so far. So I just think that like you said the opportunity won't be there. And I just think it's mainly because she kind of makes it impossible for the opportunity to present itself.

Like black mailing her would probably not do much other than make Inoda a target to eliminate. She's probably also physically stronger and much more aware of crazier shit to pull off than him.
I was trying to show Inoda can accomplish wins by himself not saying he is close to Suguha's level. I believe Suguha would not give him the opportunity since she doesn't trust him so she wouldn't want him near her. Unless she underestimate him he won't win unless another Administrator level BS happens.
 
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In Part 1 Sugu didn't do much about what Pignoda did to Asuna, she was to bussy with Hibs. It only on part 2 she suddenly got more interested in her brother.
In Part 1, Suguha was an innocent maiden with the whole unrequited love interest towards Kirito. The series of events with Hebishima and how Kirito's Sunday date with Suguha went, basically corrupted Suguha in a different way for her to turn into an NTR antagonist and try to reverse-NTR Kirito from Asuna.

Also in Part 1, Suguha didn't know anything about Inoda and Asuna because she simply stayed on the side lines. Now she's a dangerous predator that can't be taken down in typical NTR fashion.


Yeah, that pretty much aligns with my thoughts. I really wonder what the Admin is trying to achieve. I mean, her main plot was announced like three updates ago, but nothing significant has happened so far. I think the problem with Sinon is that she seems a bit too overconfident. She’s not as stupid as Liz, but still.
I also agree with you that Sinon seems too overconfident. She hasn't shown the chops that she'll succeed unlike Suguha, so it's really up in the air what the main plot is that determines her fate. But yeah unlike Liz, she's at least a little smarter and overall more aware of things. It probably helps a little that Suguha is her ally, since Sinon is the only other person that knows that Asuna is cheating on Kirito with Inoda.
 
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I was trying to show Inoda can accomplish wins by himself not saying he is close to Suguha's level. I believe Suguha would not give him the opportunity since she doesn't trust him so she wouldn't want him near her. Unless she underestimate him he won't win unless another Administrator level BS happens.
i don't think Admin would help Inoda to win Suguha, because when i went to talk to Admin, he said: aren't those two girls (Sinon and Suguha) better than your girlfriend? so i think Admin wants Kirito to spend time with those two

obviously i don't remember exactly what she said
 

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I was trying to show Inoda can accomplish wins by himself not saying he is close to Suguha's level. I believe Suguha would not give him the opportunity since she doesn't trust him so she wouldn't want him near her. Unless she underestimate him he won't win unless another Administrator level BS happens.
Didn't realize that's what you meant. Cause I agree he showed he's clever. My statement about saying "he hasn't really showcased the ability to actually really pull anything off himself" was said more in comparison to Suguha. Like a lot of his manipulations (specifically the house key one) has more to do with how stupid and gullible Asuna is and hoping in general that people don't take him seriously. He's clever enough to snatch an opportunity in front of him when he sees it for sure, but he's pretty shit at figuring a way out. Like there's a lot of luck behind the outcome of his decisions, whereas Suguha's is way more thought out and pre-planned. So yeah I meant like he can't 100% follow through with whatever is going on whereas Suguha is probably capable of following through, considering she more or less was super fucking prepared to stop Liz from banging Kirito.

Anyways I apologize for not understanding what you were initially trying to say.
 
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