Aniky Light

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when we go to the dream worlds and talk to Quinella, does Kirito understand what the admin says or does he act blissfully ignorant? the admin's words must have some impact, but from what I see, Kirito doesn't seem to take it too much into consideration
Quinella: the person you care about will one day move away from you
Kirito: OK, thank you (I didn't understand anything she said :) )
 
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when we go to the dream worlds and talk to Quinella, does Kirito understand what the admin says or does he act blissfully ignorant? the admin's words must have some impact, but from what I see, Kirito doesn't seem to take it too much into consideration
Quinella: the person you care about will one day move away from you
Kirito: OK, thank you (I didn't understand anything she said :) )
What difference, does Kirito understand or not? When he leaves the world of dreams, he forgets about it anyway. Even if Kirito had immediately understood everything and was running around the Adminidtrator's house shouting "You bitch, Asuna, cheated on me with Inoda," he would have woken up in his bed as an ordinary slobbery fool, as always.
 

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What difference, does Kirito understand or not? When he leaves the world of dreams, he forgets about it anyway. Even if Kirito had immediately understood everything and was running around the Adminidtrator's house shouting "You bitch, Asuna, cheated on me with Inoda," he would have woken up in his bed as an ordinary slobbery fool, as always.
Kirito while sleeping screaming: bitch Asuna you cheated on me with Inoda, then he wakes up: what happened?
 

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So after SAO, what will Mr. Fujino do next in Anime World? Is there a poll for that? I hope something like OnePiece, Bleach, DxD, and as for Naruto (this topic is so widespread and has so many doujishin that I don't really feel excited compared to other worlds)
i hope fujino sensei does a poll on which anime he should make a parody ntr game next. most ppl will probably say either my dress up darling or highschool dxd, but if he doesn't, he'll probably just finish/improve his old games ig
 
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i hope fujino sensei does a poll on which anime he should make a parody ntr game next. most ppl will probably say either my dress up darling or highschool dxd, but if he doesn't, he'll probably just finish/improve his old games ig
in fact he said that he wants to finish his previous games first
 
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I want to challenge Fujino, I want him to create a NTR game without using stupid excuses like small dick, stupidity of the character, sickness of the girl and without any help for the bastard :D
 
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I want to challenge Fujino, I want him to create a NTR game without using stupid excuses like small dick, stupidity of the character, sickness of the girl and without any help for the bastard :D
I don't think there's a chance for that, I don't think he'll even try, since the same pattern of relationships between the main characters has been used here for 3 years, reading reviews of his previous works, what is here is most likely his peak, or he really got tired and decided to just go with the flow and finish the game
 

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I want to challenge Fujino, I want him to create a NTR game without using stupid excuses like small dick, stupidity of the character, sickness of the girl and without any help for the bastard :D
Too big a challenge for mortal men. I can't think of any NTR story that doesn't use at least of one of those. :unsure:
 
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I want to challenge Fujino, I want him to create a NTR game without using stupid excuses like small dick, stupidity of the character, sickness of the girl and without any help for the bastard :D
The small dick one is a valid plot point in my opinion. It is a fetish after all. The other ones not so much. In Japanese games they do go to ridiculous lengths with the stupidity of the main character. At some point the MC has to just accept being a cuck or do something else.
 

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Too big a challenge for mortal men. I can't think of any NTR story that doesn't use at least of one of those. :unsure:
There are such games, but usually they are visual novels with a tearful dramatic plot. Quite a long time ago, I played a game in which a married couple finds out the relationship between themselves half the game. "Is there still love between us and why we can't be the same as before the wedding?" And the second half of the game is a silent war between the spouses, in which the man wants everything to stop, and the woman wants freedom, to feel loved and desired. Depending on the election, this led to her cheating on her husband with some guy while drunk in a bar. But, of course, there are choices that can lead to a good ending. Also in the game, the character has the opportunity to reveal his spouse's infidelity with the help of elections. I can't remember the name, but I played it in 2011 or 2012. Such a game is quite difficult to perceive and the drama is usually very heavy. But the bottom line is that in this game there is not a word about small penises, the characters are not stupid, no one is sick. Unstable relationships between people and a combination of circumstances become the basis for NTR. Now the authors are following simpler paths to justify the NTR.
 

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There are such games, but usually they are visual novels with a tearful dramatic plot. Quite a long time ago, I played a game in which a married couple finds out the relationship between themselves half the game. "Is there still love between us and why we can't be the same as before the wedding?" And the second half of the game is a silent war between the spouses, in which the man wants everything to stop, and the woman wants freedom, to feel loved and desired. Depending on the election, this led to her cheating on her husband with some guy while drunk in a bar. But, of course, there are choices that can lead to a good ending. Also in the game, the character has the opportunity to reveal his spouse's infidelity with the help of elections. I can't remember the name, but I played it in 2011 or 2012. Such a game is quite difficult to perceive and the drama is usually very heavy. But the bottom line is that in this game there is not a word about small penises, the characters are not stupid, no one is sick. Unstable relationships between people and a combination of circumstances become the basis for NTR. Now the authors are following simpler paths to justify the NTR.
Based on that brief summary it doesn't sound like a NTR story but a drama story instead. A NTR story needs more than cheating. There doesn't seem be any love between the couple anymore, at least when the cheating happened, and the player choices seems to decide if the man still loves the woman.
 
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Based on that brief summary it doesn't sound like a NTR story but a drama story instead. A NTR story needs more than cheating. There doesn't seem be any love between the couple anymore, at least when the cheating happened, and the player choices seems to decide if the man still loves the woman.
Well, that's what I said - it's a dramatic story. The NTR in this game was that in one of the storylines (depending on the choices)At the same time, the woman did not want to divorce her husband and recalled that they had been in love since high school, and at the same time it seemed to her that her husband was too cold and she wanted to feel wanted, and every time she blamed herself and cried after cheating. NTR is not the main theme of this game, although quite a large part of the game is related to it. This is probably why the plot was not limited to some starting cliches, such as a small penis, stupidity, blackmail, and the stamp of lust. I don't think there are very many such games, due to the fact that it is necessary to think of non-standard reasons for NTR... Because it is always easier to choose an already paved road than to make this road yourself.

Damn, I just remembered this game and tried to find it, but the name was written in Japanese hieroglyph's. I can't remember, but I'm looking for pictures... visual novels with the tags "drama" and "NTR" are simply over 9000. :HideThePain:
 

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There are such games, but usually they are visual novels with a tearful dramatic plot. Quite a long time ago, I played a game in which a married couple finds out the relationship between themselves half the game. "Is there still love between us and why we can't be the same as before the wedding?" And the second half of the game is a silent war between the spouses, in which the man wants everything to stop, and the woman wants freedom, to feel loved and desired. Depending on the election, this led to her cheating on her husband with some guy while drunk in a bar. But, of course, there are choices that can lead to a good ending. Also in the game, the character has the opportunity to reveal his spouse's infidelity with the help of elections. I can't remember the name, but I played it in 2011 or 2012. Such a game is quite difficult to perceive and the drama is usually very heavy. But the bottom line is that in this game there is not a word about small penises, the characters are not stupid, no one is sick. Unstable relationships between people and a combination of circumstances become the basis for NTR. Now the authors are following simpler paths to justify the NTR.
The way i see it, the problem is when a obscure and simple theme or argument for a story (cheating) turn into a mainstream genre like NTR, all the sudden all original ideas are gone, we have a explosion in works in this genre with almost no creativity, most authors just will follow the safe cookie cutter set of rules for plot line because is easy, is more or less like what happened with Isekai manga/anime all follow the same formula. If we look here in the F95 forum for every 10 games posted 5 or 6 have the NTR tag because is popular but is basically more the same.
But i dont blame only the authors for the lack of creativity it's 50/50 with the public who got used to read/play the same thing over and over.

Fujino, although most of us like his game in some aspect, did the same as many others he just follow the same NTR set of "rules" writing his game with almost no deviation, in the end because his tight 30 days update policy he most of the time used a easy route to meet the deadline.

For instance, Suguha blackmail subplot he made her know the truth, but as soon he wrote this he came up with the " i can't tell this to Kirito because will hurt him" which negate the effect of her knowing the truth that's was a easy route to avoid conflit in the plot. If insted he had did the same without the "hurt him part" the fans would have always that expectation "suguha it's going to tell or going to do something", but because the hurt him part we know she's not going to do anything.
 
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The way i see it, the problem is when a obscure and simple theme or argument for a story (cheating) turn into a mainstream genre like NTR, all the sudden all original ideas are gone, we have a explosion in works in this genre with almost no creativity, most authors just will follow the safe cookie cutter set of rules for plot line because is easy, is more or less like what happened with Isekai manga/anime all follow the same formula. If we look here in the F95 forum for every 10 games posted 5 or 6 have the NTR tag because is popular but is basically more the same.
But i dont blame only the authors for the lack of creativity it's 50/50 with the public who got used to read/play the same thing over and over.

Fujino, although most of us like his game in some aspect, did the same as many others he just follow the same NTR set of "rules" writing his game with almost no deviation, in the end because his tight 30 days update policy he most of the time used a easy route to meet the deadline.

For instance, Suguha blackmail subplot he made her know the truth, but as soon he wrote this he came up with the " i can't tell this to Kirito because will hurt him" which negate the effect of her knowing the truth that's was a easy route to avoid conflit in the plot. If insted he had did the same without the "hurt him part" the fans would have always that expectation "suguha it's going to tell or going to do something", but because the hurt him part we know she's not going to do anything.

BRUh... we just wanna quick WANK bruh. chill
 
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In fact, Fujino's story is also a drama. In fact, Kirito is not to blame for his physiological characteristics given to him at birth. Asuna, instead of trying to find a solution, talking to Kirito, going to the doctor, having penis enlargement surgery (they have a fantastic year there in 2026, what's the problem with that?), she just ignores the problem, and then just finds a way not to think about it. Based on the fact that there was no "Fairy Dance" arc, I can conclude that Asuna doesn't like Kirito. It's just a "HABIT." Asuna, during her time in Aincrad, just got used to Kirito, for her he is a good friend with privileges. And the fact that she says she loves him... Well, Kirito is just a convenient target for "love". Asuna doesn't have many male friends, and Asuna just confuses habit and friendship with stronger feelings.
I came to this conclusion because of her actions. She says every time that she loves Kirito and then immediately betrays him, as if even she herself does not believe in these words. Kirito is always ready to do anything for her, but she doesn't want to do anything herself and sometimes encourages Kirito's actions with sex, with a sour face. But the fact that she told Inode that she likes him and she falls in love with him is most likely true. So this is a story about some kind of perverted friendzone in which Kirito is really in love with Asuna, and for Asuna, Kirito is just a convenient friend.
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In fact, Fujino's story is also a drama. In fact, Kirito is not to blame for his physiological characteristics given to him at birth. Asuna, instead of trying to find a solution, talking to Kirito, going to the doctor, having penis enlargement surgery (they have a fantastic year there in 2026, what's the problem with that?), she just ignores the problem, and then just finds a way not to think about it. Based on the fact that there was no "Fairy Dance" arc, I can conclude that Asuna doesn't like Kirito. It's just a "HABIT." Asuna, during her time in Aincrad, just got used to Kirito, for her he is a good friend with privileges. And the fact that she says she loves him... Well, Kirito is just a convenient target for "love". Asuna doesn't have many male friends, and Asuna just confuses habit and friendship with stronger feelings.
I came to this conclusion because of her actions. She says every time that she loves Kirito and then immediately betrays him, as if even she herself does not believe in these words. Kirito is always ready to do anything for her, but she doesn't want to do anything herself and sometimes encourages Kirito's actions with sex, with a sour face. But the fact that she told Inode that she likes him and she falls in love with him is most likely true. So this is a story about some kind of perverted friendzone in which Kirito is really in love with Asuna, and for Asuna, Kirito is just a convenient friend.
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Either Kirito stops loving her or Asuna must have the courage to admit that she doesn't love him and stop taking advantage of him, I know that Kirito is useless in bed, but for the rest he can do better than Inoda
 
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