AlterInfernalAllius

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Another thing that some people might have noticed, but Yui is already playing in Inoda's favor being deceitful towards Kirito was subtle, but she change her apparence from MILFYui to Loli Yui because was the way how Kirito remind of her, at that point she already knew what mommy is being doing behind the back of her "fake husband" Kirito and help keeping the charade.
Fujino must hate Kirito even his fake/virtual daughter was NTRed and is already lying to him within the first 30 seconds of their first encounter.
I mean, while you're not wrong in that Yui has already been rewritten, that was NOT Yui and she did NOT change at all, lmao, that was a virtual representation created by Asuna's memory like every other 'character' that appeared in the memory space, that's why it was loli Yui, because that's how Asuna remembered her there, but just like how everything else had been 'rewritten' in Asuna's memory at that point, Yui thinking Inoda was her daddy and calling him that while invisible behind Kirito was also how that scene 'actually happened' (And that's how it retroactively 'rewrote' the current Yui...as retarded as that is, though no less stupid than the entirety of it legit rewriting Asuna's memories XD)
 

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In general, if you put all this together and think about it, there are too many questions.

If Asuna now thinks that 4 years ago she became Inoda's secret wife, then where has Inoda been these 4 years? :unsure:

Does she have memories of meeting Inoda and having sex with him for the first time, but no memories of him in 4 years?:confused:

Or does Asuna now think that she and Inoda have known each other for 4 years and they've been fucking without Kirito's knowledge for 4 years? :cautious:

If Asuna's memories have been corrected so that she believes that she and Inoda have been sex friends and secret lovers for 4 years, but she remembers that Inoda has not been there for 4 years, then how do these memories fit into her head at all? Asuna must have a cogentive dissonance from such memories. She must be going crazy.:eek:

Or have new memories replaced the memories of the first meeting with Inoda? Asuna must remember 2 sets of events -

1.She met Inoda at FOG near the city and didn't know him before that.:WeSmart:

2.She met Inoda during the events of Aincrad and met him then. These memories contradict each other. :WaitWhat:

Asuna's brain should burn out. She has memories that she has known Inoda for only 2 months and at the same time remembers that she met him 4 years ago. It seems to me that Fujino destroyed Asuna's entire plot and at the same time created a hole in the plot so huge that it is bigger than Asuna's plot itself.

In short, Asuna should now have 2 sets of memories that conflict with each other. But something tells me that Fujino will just ignore it...:FacePalm:
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P.s It's like Asuna's father is coming again and erasing her memory once again, lol. :LOL:
Very correct. That's why Oberon says (as Fujino write himself) somethings like manipulating memories is a subtle work and cannot be easily done. But Inoda is lucky as always. He doesn't intentionally change Asuna's memories. All he cares the whole time is to fuck Asuna, and he even thinks that they are doing some kind of role plays (he even becomes bored when being asked to read the scripts). But anyway, Asuna's brain does the work for him.

That's why the plot is ridiculous. Inoda does nothing but only fucks, and he wins anyway.

Talking about memory changes, it doesn't make sense at all if you only change something in the key moments and that will change the whole memories for several years. Asuna and Kirito altogether go through so many things, more than only the four key moments.

So how does Asuna's brain understand all the things Asuna experience with Kirito and say they don't love each other?

Or how does Asuna's brain persuade itself that Asuna truly loves Inoda when they don't have years of daily experiences together (or only have fucking experience)

Are you telling me Asuna's brain will fabricate all those memories that do not exist just by itself in that 39 hours simulation?

Inoda's presence in Asuna and Kirito's memory simulation should have caused immediate break down, because he shouldn't be there in the first place. That is, once Inoda intervenes by adding his "cream" to Asuna' bread, the whole system should have fallen apart, because Asuna had no sex experience at that time and it won't happen if she eats that bread.

Also the third scene where Asuna has her first sex with Inoda. Inoda says something like "I can trick the system by turning into invisible". What? So now Inoda's ability has evolved into a "Golden Finger Skill" that can bypass the game system? If so, then why bother. Just let him do whatever he wants. He can brainwash anyone, get any tools he wants, do anything with anyone as he pleases. See, the whole story becomes ridiculous when Fujino has made Inoda almighty.
 
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SixDates

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I was initially just waiting for Alter’s review which he posted this morning, but I forgot to deactivate notifications from the thread afterward, so I wasn’t really gone gone. :eek:

I may still drop in from time to time—you know, came for the porn, stayed for the community. :LOL:
You may be gone from the thread, but worry not, if the next update we get good Suguha content I will make sure to drop a Sugu meme on your inbox.

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Aside from that, I finally managed to play the game, and while I understand why people were so upset with the update itself, but I had already kind of guessed we were going to get something like this when we got the preview of Asuna's SAO look. Perhaps not so much "mind-alteration" but I was ready for her to overwrite her memories of SAO and Kirito one way or another, be it FOG shenanigans or cosplay sex, or something from that vein.

Mind control and hypnosis are always my least favorite tropes for NTR (besides free use, gangbangs, etc), because it cheapens the whole "stealing" and " betrayal" aspects of NTR, but honestly? We have had 40 hours of Asuna getting corrupted by Inoda already, this development hasn't really soured things all that much for me. We were 99% of the way there already, so unless Fujino leans to much on this in the future I probably won’t care about it.

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Now, onto the most important part of the update, Inoda's using his disgusting, filthy, tainted, lips to mention my glorious queen Suguha....

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I might just kill myself.


But AI assisted meme aside, I don't really think Inoda mentioning Suguha will really change a lot for her future. He also mentioned Sinon, and I don't think the two do them even met, much less have a reasonable explanation on how they might have sex on the future.
And while Fujino is always capable of changing his mind, he literally said less than a month ago that Inoda won't sleep with Sugu.
 

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The plot didn't change though. It had been clearly building towards this from the moment Inoda and Asuna conceived Yui in FOG. The fact that he made an Aincrad apartment map a couple of months ago shows he'd been thinking of doing this for a while IMO.

Honestly, I don't even understand the critique. "Changed the plot?" From what exactly? Some wacky idea you guys cooked up? I've yet to see any criticism that outlines any solid ideas for how her fall could have been executed better.
What I do agree on is that I hope for his next game he gets better at foreshadowing world building elements. If he had established the conception ritual needing a "memory reconstruction" stage for instance, it would have felt like less of an asspull. Even a simple line of dialogue would have sufficed to do that really. If he really only came up with this idea this month, which is possible, that does show he needs to make a more general long term outline before he starts a new game. I'm just not entirely sure that's the case.
I've been thinking on this tbh. It has been clear that Fujino was building up for this to happen for a while and people is mad that the guy went and did it?
People is been crashing out for something that's been cooking for a while and if that is not up your tsste, well that's one thing but You can't say "he pulled it from his ass" when every hint was right there lol
 
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To be fair to me I was not talking about you. I was only talking about those who care so much about the canon of the story but still plays a parody game. To willing play a parody game, especially a NTR porn game, while wanting to keep the sanctity of the original work is just masochism as I said. I have seen porn parodies of things I like but I would never watch because I am not into intentionally pain.


Yes all the new scenes have Asuna's POV.


Smart. Why keep doing something that causes you pain.


When I read Asuna is having Inoda's baby to make him leave I thought it was so Inoda can have a heir. Inoda is so pathetic no one would want to his child and thus his line would end. Asuna agrees to have his child as payment to leave her life. It is a Chinese Asian way of thinking.
I was always amused by the formulation HEIR, the heir of a small room and health problems, the heir of a rapist and a maniac?
 
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Your whole post boils down to the fact that Fujino is good because he makes beautiful CG pornscene. If I just wanted to see porn with Asuna and the others, i would download a 150 GB Koikatsu of mods, find the perosage maps, and run these scenes myself. If I was too lazy to download Koikatsu, i would just find something on Kemono. There's a lot of content with Asuna and NTR.

You say that Fujino sells content cheaply (with someone else's intellectual property) and makes good CG, but people are disappointed with how he presents the plot. There are players who have come to play the game to see how Fujino will develop corruption and how the characters will develop NTR interactions.

Fujino game - is just a jerk off for some, but for others, it's an emotion. There are good porn scenes in this update, I won't deny it (and no one will, probably), but in terms of the plot, it was a low blow.
well by the way about the scenes the idea is not bad, really TRUE NTR, but damn the camera is so disappointing + WE STILL DIDN'T GET A NORMAL BLOWJOB SCENE.
+ the very same atmosphere that I wrote about, it's literally a husband and wife fucking behind the back of their domestic cuckold. It seems like cool scenes, somehow it feels strange, but that may just be my problem.
 
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drag0nf6y

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Bro you are not alone. I completely share your feelings.

You might have also noticed that the four scenes are gradual steps of memory changes:
The first one changes Inoda being a person Asuna meets early and frequently tutored to eat his semen.
The second one changes Inoda being Asuna's first man with whom she has her first sex in life (which even confuses Inoda in their dialogues).
The third one changes Inoda being Asuna's sex friend the whole time because Kirito cannot satisfy her (that's why she opens the door and invite Inoda in for sex)
The last one changes Inoda being Asuna's secret husband and her true love (that's why she put Kirito to sleep and obey whatever Inoda says)

Like I wrote in my previous posts:

1. This update is offensive to SAO fans
Apparently Fujino has deliberately chosen the most important moments in SAO cannon and overwrite them. I don't think it's good. Making something new in his universe is one story, but changing the original cannon is different. Many people are attracted to play this game because they either know SAO or are fans of SAO. I don't think many SAO fans enjoy this insult to their memories of the original cannon.

2. Many Chinese fans hate this update too
Although people speak different languages and post in different forums, I've seen many (if not most) people here and many (if not most) Chinese fans feel sad, disappointed, offended, hurt, uncomfortable, sick ... about this update. Remember Fujino is Chinese and he was first supported by the Chinese fans to get his fame (big enough that he has to move to Japan).
since fujino sensei has done this, i want him to give us an alt ending where kirito shoots both parodysuna and pignoda irl. then he leaves and goes far away for rehabilitation, even leaving sugu behind since she also betrayed him by raping him in his sleep and what not. every single person betrayed him in this game. they all deserve to die, but parodysuna and pignoda the most. he should let that member of the ministry of internal affairs and communications (aka chrysheight from alo, but fog in this game), take care of things once it's over. i'm sure he'd help him, even though fujino sensei didn't include him or many of the other characters. kirito should leave all of this behind and live his life from the start. ik it would be tough for him, but he needs to take this path alone. that's the only right way to end this game now
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since fujino sensei has done this, i want him to give us an alt ending where kirito shoots both parodysuna and pignoda irl. then he leaves and goes far away for rehabilitation, even leaving sugu behind since she also betrayed him by raping him in his sleep and what not. every single person betrayed him in this game. they all deserve to die, but parodysuna and pignoda the most. he should let that member of the ministry of internal affairs and communications (aka chrysheight from alo, but fog in this game), take care of things once it's over. i'm sure he'd help him, even though fujino sensei didn't include him or many of the other characters. kirito should leave all of this behind and live his life from the start. ik it would be tough for him, but he needs to take this path alone. that's the only right way to end this game now
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Is the game really that sad?
 
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Is the game really that sad?
Well, depending on how you look at it, for drag0nf6y it may be sad(because he seems to be a strong fan of SAO or he's just trolling, it's not clear here), for me it's poorly written, I didn't experience any negative feelings, apart from the bad plot twists, I think the game is just ordinary and if you're not a crazy SAO fan, you'll just jerk off and forget about it, well, if you like NTR of course
 

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Everyone is too invested in Inoda's dialogue of wanting to create a Harem and I understand. But logically saying, unless Fujino is driven by some kind of forces or Chinese supporters wanted Inoda to hoard all of heroines, I think Sugu and Sinon will face the Council and lose (because there is no good ending in Fujino's game just like FGO game before) or by miracle Hebishima return (this make more fucking sense than Inoda get all because Sinon used the council tech to turn him to a girl, maybe he could be brought back?). I think the only make sense person could NTR Sugu and Sinon is Hebishima with the connection Fujino created since the 1st game, not even Fox or Oberon since in Fox's cases he only have direct connection to Sinon and Alice and even that with Sinon is a limited contact so it would be absurd for him to suddenly defeat both of them (not to mention there will be Agil as support).

Now into Inoda cases, it is for sure there will be Asuna, Liz, Kyouko and very likely Yui (I agree with everyone, this is bs even in Fujino's logic, this guy style is a preferred build up to action than a one time detonation like this). If Inoda were to actually create a Harem with all heroines in it, it would absolutely betrayed his story telling types from the start and make every plot he made irrelevant and at this point, it's better to rush to end the game than try to keep story telling.
 

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Is the game really that sad?
>if you're an ntr fan and haven't watched sao, it's probably worth it
>if you're a sao fan and an ntr fan, it might not be worth it (i fall in this category)
>if you're not a sao fan but you're into ntr, it could go either way
>the first part of this game is great, but if you're not an ntr fan, then it probably won't be for you
which one are you?
 

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who's so stupid as to play something literally called "NTR online" and then cry about the game having an NTR content where Kirito is a cuckold and Asuna is a whore? In my opinion, they should go play Hello Kitty. Their crying is just laughable haha, since not even Fujino cares :KEK:.
 
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Is the game really that sad?
I'm not a fan of NTR but I've played one or two but it's because the main character deserves it but I haven't played an NTR that puts you in the main character's shoes and the emotions in the end I think it will end with Kirito knowing everything and killing himself or accepting reality.
 
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