RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.851] [Fujino]

[mos555]

I don't care what anime fujino is going for next to be honest. I can see Naruto work but I also can see Sono Bisque Doll work. I mean they have Hinata and Marin respectively. MILF Hinata is prime NTR material and Marin is uncharted territory. There is not much around of Marin but I also never say no to more Hinata NTR material

Honestly Fujino already decided to be honest anyway. Why else would he make a render of marin. Did he do this for the other girls out of the animes in the polls? xD

At the end of the day and what I wish for the next game is that it is a more digestable one.
SAO went on for too long imo. On the flipside all his other games are all too short. Played that chainsaw man game for example and it felt more like a tech demo or teaser to something bigger.

Finding a middleground between the chainsawman game and SAO as a scope would be awesome. The feeling that you actually play a game and not just a demo but also not to get a feeling that it overstays its welcome.

Fujino should have chosen My dress up darling, because it's easier and safer. It's everyday and you don't have to think much about the scenes. Marin went to school, fucking the toilet, went to a cosplay festival, had sex with someone, went to a cafe and got fucked there too. And no plot is needed.

But Naruto is difficult, and the fanbase is no less than SAO's. People will come running who will start asking questions -
Why didn't Sarada see Hinata being fucked by someone, she also has a sharingan?
Why doesn't Naruto notice Hinata's strange behavior, since he has a lot of clones walking around the village?
Why is Himawari pretending not to see her mother being fucked by some guy in the next room?

Of course, if Fujino makes the game in his classic style - without corruption and plot, then it doesn't matter what kind of game it will be. Just another porn with someone else's intellectual property.

 

[ASDZXCQWER1321]

i think fujino sensei is actually a legit sao fan. he knew kirito & asuna’s bond is strong in the canon story, but made it pretty abysmal in this game. still, he clearly respected the og material and chose this route. i kinda appreciate that, because there's no way asuna would leave kirito (even in a parody version)

also, in the leaked perk lists, there was a perk where inoda told asuna to keep her relationship with kirito and still be his sow wife, since her memories were rewritten and she was trying to make their relationship public. i think that was probably fujino sensei’s og storyline for this game (something he planned from the start and is just following through on now). it’s probably easier for him this way, and he can wrap it up in a few updates, especially with new project coming up

no offense but it sounds like nonsense, namely in relation to respect for the original, then Fujino is a fan and so on.
It seems you literally wrote that you were offended by this update because it so desecrated the memories, I don't think there is any respect for the original here. It's just that Asuna and Kirito's separation is a difficult plot twist, which would be difficult to write within the framework of the NTR game, since it was supposed to happen after the quarantine, and another six months of development, where Asuna and Kirito are not together, and the game continues, simply makes no sense.

 

[Adultress]

I think it's comprehensible the fans frustrations with this update but at same time misplaced, Fujino did what he understood being the fans desires, he left this clear in his message that in his view and in terms of NTR this story could be over by last update because in his view the best part of a NTR story is the slowly FMC progression into corruption and he think that was done already, but the fans, mostly chinese fans, wanted more "hardcore/humiliation" in the plot so he found himself into a corner, in how to do that? the only way available was by sugestions and "Mindcontrol" which is the main sub plot/theme of the entire game.

Personally, I don't think her "corruption" is complete until she admits that she wants this. Whenever Asuna fights Inoda, it undermines the corruption.

I also think that mind control is the least satisfying solution to the problem, but it's all the more egregious because Fujino already had the solution and he threw it away. Just have Asuna become a willing and enthusiastic participant over the course of the quarantine, culminating in her actively instigating sex with Inoda (probably after she experiences unsatisfying sex with Kirito when she gets back home)

 

[drag0nf6y]

no offense but it sounds like nonsense, namely in relation to respect for the original, then Fujino is a fan and so on.
It seems you literally wrote that you were offended by this update because it so desecrated the memories, I don't think there is any respect for the original here. It's just that Asuna and Kirito's separation is a difficult plot twist, which would be difficult to write within the framework of the NTR game, since it was supposed to happen after the quarantine, and another six months of development, where Asuna and Kirito are not together, and the game continues, simply makes no sense.

that’s what i said, but i just sugarcoated it a little xP. yeah, you’re right about this whole game being an offense to sao. it’s just that i didn’t wanna start another "muh this update was peak, wdym?" kind of war. so i kinda forced a bit of fake positivity to hide how i actually felt

 

[cp2020]

This is an old theory in Chinese forums: Fujino projects himself in this game that he is Inoda, so every time Inoda wins = Fujino wins.

So I think this is no longer a "theory" because Fujino himself admits it.



I'm not sure if people pay attention to what this rooster says. Not sure if the English translation is accurate enough. But the Chinese version must be the most accurate because it's Fujino's native language.

The underlined sentence means (literal translation): "In the process [of making this game] I become more and more like [love/fond of] Asuna this character, and feel I become more Inoda-lized [= I become Inoda myself]".

I think now it's clear. There's no need anymore to say why Inoda is always lucky or why he is made almighty in the story. Because the creator immerses himself in the role of Inoda.

So no surprise if Inoda takes everything and end up with a pig harem.

 

[drag0nf6y]

Just have Asuna become a willing and enthusiastic participant over the course of the quarantine, culminating in her actively instigating sex with Inoda (probably after she experiences unsatisfying sex with Kirito when she gets back home)

just for the record, canon kirito has a massive harpoon and a gazillion times more sex drive than this pathetic beta cuck parody version of him in this game. him & asuna have wild sex every day and there’s not a single goddamn day where she isn’t satisfied by his massive cock. i’m just saying this in case you think this is the kirito from canon too

 

[NTRSandman]

Marin is uncharted territory. There is not much around of Marin

There's an NTR game for that in active development out there though, using Koikatsu graphics as well.
Haven't played it myself yet, but comments/reviews suggest it's actually at least not bad.

That alone shouldn't stop Fujino of course, I just think it would be the more boring choice out of the leading candidates in part because of this.

At the end of the day and what I wish for the next game is that it is a more digestable one.
SAO went on for too long imo. On the flipside all his other games are all too short. Played that chainsaw man game for example and it felt more like a tech demo or teaser to something bigger.

I agree.
SAO pt1 was the closest thing to "just right". Maybe 2-3 more hours of build-up (and Asuna actually caving in herself, rather than the "it was actually half-forced" retconning at the beginning of pt2), and it would've been spot-on.
Pt2 is easily 2-3 times too long already, with too much filler related to Liz and Alice in particular, in my opinion.

 

[Infeno2.0]

Personally, I don't think her "corruption" is complete until she admits that she wants this. Whenever Asuna fights Inoda, it undermines the corruption.

I also think that mind control is the least satisfying solution to the problem, but it's all the more egregious because Fujino already had the solution and he threw it away. Just have Asuna become a willing and enthusiastic participant over the course of the quarantine, culminating in her actively instigating sex with Inoda (probably after she experiences unsatisfying sex with Kirito when she gets back home)

Fujino wrote himself into a dead end with this plot, if he had continued with the Asuna/Inoda status quo the game would never be in the way he wanted would be cheating only, the result for him has to be NTR which is different.

The story got stagnated, with no ending in site i think that was the meaning behind his words, the cheating part was over in the previous update, now it's the time for the NTR and for that he used the Brainwash/mindcontrol trope to give the last push to Asuna cave.

The problem was the way he moved Asuna/Inoda plot was from excuse to excuse (conviniences) until this point where he had no excuses left to give to justify their affair that would make any sense.

 

[SouthTurtle]

It is common for authors to consider characters in their works as Mary Sue.
In this game, Inoda can do that.
This may be a separate issue from the similarity between Fujino and Inoda.
However, in a creative work, it may be a factor that reduces interest when the main character or another character receives too much love from the creator.

 

[Aniky Light]

So I think this is no longer a "theory" because Fujino himself admits it.

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I'm not sure if people pay attention to what this rooster says. Not sure if the English translation is accurate enough. But the Chinese version must be the most accurate because it's Fujino's native language.

The underlined sentence means (literal translation): "In the process [of making this game] I become more and more like [love/fond of] Asuna this character, and feel I become more Inoda-lized [= I become Inoda myself]".

I think now it's clear. There's no need anymore to say why Inoda is always lucky or why he is made almighty in the story. Because the creator immerses himself in the role of Inoda.

So no surprise if Inoda takes everything and end up with a pig harem.

It seems like an insult to me, I mean if Fujino thinks he's Inoda and makes us play as Kirito, in short he tells us "I am me, and you are nothing"

 

[Aniky Light]

It would have been better if he said that he made a mistake by inserting Suguha and not Kyouto, but who cares if he wrote Kyo, we understand that it's her

 

[drag0nf6y]

It is common for authors to consider characters in their works as Mary Sue.
In this game, Inoda can do that.
This may be a separate issue from the similarity between Fujino and Inoda.
However, in a creative work, it may be a factor that reduces interest when the main character or another character receives too much love from the creator.

it's not common for authors to consider this unless you're talking about trash isekai/shounen slops. inoda hasn't suffered a single bad thing in this game. he always wins w/ 0 suffering. even jinwoo from slop leveling suffered a bit in his early arcs, but people still called him gary stu. inoda IS fujino sensei's fav character/one of his alter ego in this game

 

[Aniky Light]

now I understand why Fujino wants to insert Suguha into Inoda's harem, since he feels like Inoda and therefore has this desire to see how Suguha looks on Inoda's dick, well he also has the desire for Inoda to fuck Yui, basically Fujino's desire is like Inoda's, he wants to fuck all the girls, but since he can't, then he created this game in which he inserts everything he would like to do, now I don't know if Fujino has the attitude like Inoda, apart from the fact that Inoda only thinks about fucking and Fujino is committed to creating the games

 

[mos555]

no offense but it sounds like nonsense, namely in relation to respect for the original, then Fujino is a fan and so on.
It seems you literally wrote that you were offended by this update because it so desecrated the memories, I don't think there is any respect for the original here. It's just that Asuna and Kirito's separation is a difficult plot twist, which would be difficult to write within the framework of the NTR game, since it was supposed to happen after the quarantine, and another six months of development, where Asuna and Kirito are not together, and the game continues, simply makes no sense.

Kirito and Asuna don't need to break up. The "fundamentalist" NTR Fujino doesn't even seem to know that in NTR games, the main couple can continue to have a loving relationship, but the woman seeks physical pleasure elsewhere or is sexually assaulted by a bully, but returns home and cooks her husband dinner.

Fujino, for some reason, makes a vanilla love story of Inoda and Asuna, when in NTR it is not necessary at all.

All these NTR "fundamentalists" have been doing some bullshit lately - "King of Summer", "Turning the Page". Both games essentially end or have the ending of vanilla love between a woman and a bully. If we take the classic NTR scheme, then Fujino has a choice: either NTR in the game, or Kirito and Asuna will breaking up(remain friends, etc.)

But I have nothing to say if this was Fujino's ultimate goal - the romantic story of Inoda and Asuna? I would like Fujino to outline the ultimate goal of his development - is he making an NTR game to the end or is he making a story that has NTR elements.

 

[mos555]

So I think this is no longer a "theory" because Fujino himself admits it.

View attachment 5000297

I'm not sure if people pay attention to what this rooster says. Not sure if the English translation is accurate enough. But the Chinese version must be the most accurate because it's Fujino's native language.

The underlined sentence means (literal translation): "In the process [of making this game] I become more and more like [love/fond of] Asuna this character, and feel I become more Inoda-lized [= I become Inoda myself]".

I think now it's clear. There's no need anymore to say why Inoda is always lucky or why he is made almighty in the story. Because the creator immerses himself in the role of Inoda.

So no surprise if Inoda takes everything and end up with a pig harem.

The main thing is that he doesn't go completely crazy. Otherwise, in a few months we will see news on the Internet that, in Japan, some strange guy is running and shouting: "Asuna, where are you? It's me Inoda!!! Where is my piggy wife? "

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

Not to break out a discussion but... isn't NTR... at it's core all about breaking bonds?
If the main couple or whatever stays together at the end of the game or story than you essentially have just a story about cheating.

 

[Aniky Light]

The main thing is that he doesn't go completely crazy. Otherwise, in a few months we will see news on the Internet that, in Japan, some strange guy is running and shouting: "Asuna, where are you? It's me Inoda!!! Where is my piggy wife? "
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why did I read the writing on the image with Mario's voice? xD It's me!, Mario!

 

[Infeno2.0]

Kirito and Asuna don't need to break up. The "fundamentalist" NTR Fujino doesn't even seem to know that in NTR games, the main couple can continue to have a loving relationship, but the woman seeks physical pleasure elsewhere or is sexually assaulted by a bully, but returns home and cooks her husband dinner.

Fujino, for some reason, makes a vanilla love story of Inoda and Asuna, when in NTR it is not necessary at all.

All these NTR "fundamentalists" have been doing some bullshit lately - "King of Summer", "Turning the Page". Both games essentially end or have the ending of vanilla love between a woman and a bully. If we take the classic NTR scheme, then Fujino has a choice: either NTR in the game, or Kirito and Asuna will breaking up(remain friends, etc.)

But I have nothing to say if this was Fujino's ultimate goal - the romantic story of Inoda and Asuna? I would like Fujino to outline the ultimate goal of his development - is he making an NTR game to the end or is he making a story that has NTR elements.

But he did, so far the game was about cheating/affair in order to break Asuna this is done, from now on the game is about Inoda stealing Asuna completely from Kirito, and in the process she will became more slut than ever.

The status quo were Cheating/Affair
The end game will be NTR

Not to break out a discussion but... isn't NTR... at it's core all about breaking bonds?
If the main couple or whatever stays together at the end of the game or story than you essentially have just a story about cheating.

Exactly

 

[Infeno2.0]

now I understand why Fujino wants to insert Suguha into Inoda's harem, since he feels like Inoda and therefore has this desire to see how Suguha looks on Inoda's dick, well he also has the desire for Inoda to fuck Yui, basically Fujino's desire is like Inoda's, he wants to fuck all the girls, but since he can't, then he created this game in which he inserts everything he would like to do, now I don't know if Fujino has the attitude like Inoda, apart from the fact that Inoda only thinks about fucking and Fujino is committed to creating the games

Self inserting authors is nothing new, most of the time means lack of creativity.

Fujino said he was expecting the result of this update stir some controversy, that means he makeup his mind about the Asuna/Inoda BS and over the others girls as well, since he is going full NTR mode now, Sugu, Sinon and the others are fair game in his vision.

Fujino is showing Kirito lately more than usual as a indecisive wanker, lacking the initiative to do anything even with the others girls trowing themselves at him all the time it's kind of obvious that Fujino is letting the door wide open to someone else take his place.

 

[SouthTurtle]

The biggest difference between cheating and NTR is whether it was voluntary or not,
but by revising the past and believe that Asuna had loved Inoda had a relationship with him before, it became cheating and not NTR, which is a huge mistake.