RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [v0.9.51] [Fujino]

[Leo D. Marstone]

I mean maybe you need to see the memory altering thingy from a different perspective (I don't really care though. It's whatever)

Wiping memorys or affection for kirito bit by bit by altering the mind is also some form of corruption and in combination with the context, it fits the NTR narrative as well.

Imagine for asuna, kirito will become just a casual friend after inoda is done but kirito of course has all the lovey dovey memorys with her.
It's like speaking to a close relative who has alzheimers. They don't recognize you or past events anymore. I mean if this has not emotional impact than I don't know what has xD

I do agree that adding mind control this late in development is a questionable choice. As many mentioned asuna is already so far gone that inoda only needs minimal effort to coerce her into sexual acts. However her mind is a different thing.

Maybe fujinos train of thought were that yes, physically she is gone but mentally she still loves kirito. Maybe fujino/inoda thought the only way to fully break that bond is by altering the mind.

Who fucking knows however. I doubt that we get a proper resolution to the game.
I mentioned it before but I have a gut feeling fujino doesn't know how to write endings or come to a conclusion.

Looking at his other projects I would say he is at least very unexperienced in writing them.

 

[seifukulover]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: people only write stories like this because they hate Kirito. It's not even a game about Asuna's corruption anymore, it's purely "how can I ruin Kirito as much as possible, this fictional character who makes me so angry". It's just sadism, and you can only enjoy it if you hate Kirito as much as the author. I do not hate Kirito, which is why I gave up on this story a while ago

 

[kinglionheart]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: people only write stories like this because they hate Kirito. It's not even a game about Asuna's corruption anymore, it's purely "how can I ruin Kirito as much as possible, this fictional character who makes me so angry". It's just sadism, and you can only enjoy it if you hate Kirito as much as the author. I do not hate Kirito, which is why I gave up on this story a while ago

I would have to disagree there. Hate makes it seem like people have strong feelings for Kirito. But I doubt that is the case. He is so generic and forgettable. At least for me, I like the game because I simply think Asuna is hot and don't care about Kirito so I like it when she is with someone else and I don't care what happens to Kirito. Besides maybe Kazuya from My Rental Girlfriend I don't think I hate any character enough to want to see them get NTR'ed.

Also Fujino is not one of those people who hates Kirito. He simply picked SAO because it is popular and it is the series his supporters voted the most on. You can tell he only has rudimentary understanding of the series. If someone really hated Kirito they would have thought of more personal ways to hurt Kirito other than making him stupid and blind.

 

[AuraRPGM]

I would have to disagree there. Hate makes it seem like people have strong feelings for Kirito. But I doubt that is the case. He is so generic and forgettable. At least for me, I like the game because I simply think Asuna is hot and don't care about Kirito so I like it when she is with someone else and I don't care what happens to Kirito. Besides maybe Kazuya from My Rental Girlfriend I don't think I hate any character enough to want to see them get NTR'ed.

Also Fujino is not one of those people who hates Kirito. He simply picked SAO because it is popular and it is the series his supporters voted the most on. You can tell he only has rudimentary understanding of the series. If someone really hated Kirito they would have thought of more personal ways to hurt Kirito other than making him stupid and blind.

I can share the same sentiments about not hating kirito. I find the original SAO to be good and Kirito to be a cool character. Theres just something about Asuna though. Not many people can make that one specific character thats just a 10 and keep her that way. I feel the same about suguha. I will say though that the developers of most of the games and the author make it so i get irritated with kirito and the whole harem thing. I get especially irritated when the best friend character like Klein get shafted.

 

[mos555]

I would have to disagree there. Hate makes it seem like people have strong feelings for Kirito. But I doubt that is the case. He is so generic and forgettable. At least for me, I like the game because I simply think Asuna is hot and don't care about Kirito so I like it when she is with someone else and I don't care what happens to Kirito. Besides maybe Kazuya from My Rental Girlfriend I don't think I hate any character enough to want to see them get NTR'ed.

Also Fujino is not one of those people who hates Kirito. He simply picked SAO because it is popular and it is the series his supporters voted the most on. You can tell he only has rudimentary understanding of the series. If someone really hated Kirito they would have thought of more personal ways to hurt Kirito other than making him stupid and blind.

Well, we can't really know how Fujino really feels about Kirito (unless you're Fujino himself... huh? King, admit it! ).

But we can draw fairly simple conclusions - Fujino said that he likes the character Inoda created by him (a psychopath, rapist, manipulator, just human garbage) and not so long ago, he said that he liked Asuna more and more and how he changed her in this game (I think Reki Kawahara would have appreciated that. Fujino stole a character from the background and changed it to suit himself and praised himself for it.)

But Fujino never said anything about Kirito. He didn't say anything nice or even any indirect opinion about what he did to Kirito's character. The scenes of Kirito, Asuna, and other girls are always directed towards Kirito's humiliation-"cumming fast," "small dick," "poor stamina." Usually, in such games, the main character's problems are emphasized, only in order to promote the plot of corruption against a bully with a big dick. But Fujino pays too much attention to it, as if he's fixated on contrasting Inoda and Kirito. From this, it can be concluded that the character of Kirito causes Fujino to dislike at least. Well, this is just my conclusion based on a small number of observations.

P.S. And no, if you want to say that humiliating the main character is an important thing for the NTR genre, then I have to disagree. Humiliating the main character in NTR games is not even a minor matter... I think it's somewhere in the 4th or 5th place on the priority list. NTR games focus on the moral decay of the main character(woman) and her tossing between love and lust. The main character(man) is a marker that shows that a woman is in a relationship, and the better this relationship is shown, the more destructive emotions a woman's betrayal causes (which Fujino seems to have forgotten).

But Fujino spends too much time on the processes and events of humiliation for Kirito, which makes me think about Fujino's ambiguous attitude towards Kirito. Because of this, SAO part 2 is looking more and more like a game that was originally conceived as a romantic novel about how Inoda and Asuna develop their relationship.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I would have to disagree there. Hate makes it seem like people have strong feelings for Kirito. But I doubt that is the case. He is so generic and forgettable. At least for me, I like the game because I simply think Asuna is hot and don't care about Kirito so I like it when she is with someone else and I don't care what happens to Kirito. Besides maybe Kazuya from My Rental Girlfriend I don't think I hate any character enough to want to see them get NTR'ed.

Also Fujino is not one of those people who hates Kirito. He simply picked SAO because it is popular and it is the series his supporters voted the most on. You can tell he only has rudimentary understanding of the series. If someone really hated Kirito they would have thought of more personal ways to hurt Kirito other than making him stupid and blind.

Yeah, Fujino doesn't clearly hate Kirito, he just treats him as a generic NTR-ed MC with his very basic knowledge of SAO, hell, he arguably has treated him infinitely better than any of his previous 'MCs' in that regard honestly XP

I can share the same sentiments about not hating kirito. I find the original SAO to be good and Kirito to be a cool character. Theres just something about Asuna though. Not many people can make that one specific character thats just a 10 and keep her that way. I feel the same about suguha. I will say though that the developers of most of the games and the author make it so i get irritated with kirito and the whole harem thing. I get especially irritated when the best friend character like Klein get shafted.

As someone who actually was a big time SAO fan for ages, reading the novels even before the anime aired, and also thinks Kirito is great, I actually disagree about Asuna and, unironically, think the Gameverse AU was much better written than Canon thanks to how it treated the not-Harem aspect a lot more straight than how Canon actually ignores it (Despite the haters thinking otherwise). The writing of all the girls and of Kirito actualy improved a ton, both with each other and as a group, thanks to actually having him bond with them constantly and grow together as a not-family rather than how Canon threows them away into the background and refocuses on Asuna every time after their main roles are over until the plot needs them to do something XP

 

[Aniky Light]

Yeah, Kirito doesn't clearly hate Kirito, he just treats him as a generic NTR-ed MC with his very basic knowledge of SAO, hell, he arguably has treated him infinitely better than any of his previous 'MCs' in that regard honestly XP

Fujino*

 

[Uwukz]

I don't understand why some people think the author hates Kirito more than he should for the NTR genre.
And all the teasing about a small penis or poor stamina is a standard NTR tool to show that the protagonist is morally down and willing to admit that her boyfriend is very bad in bed.
For games where the girl is taken away by some jealous, bitter arsehole, the comparison is normal. The asshole wants to show the protagonist that even though she loves and dates the protagonist, her body really recognises only the asshole as a sexual partner, and the ideal protagonist can't give the whore what she wants.
If Inoda had cum in Kirito's coffee or ordered Asuna to make out with Kirito after she rimmed, then yes, you could say that the main character's humiliation in the game is above the norm or something. But Inoda just enjoys corrupting Asuna and morally destroying her.
And you have to realise that the story is seen through the point of view of Inoda, who is ugly and insignificant compared to the perfect Kirito. Inoda wants to prolong this victory over Kirito.
So I can't relate Fujino's dislike of Kirito to this at all and what it even is.

 

[900bs]

I wonder what Inoda would do if Asuna met someone with that size?

Sigh, now that the game is approaching its end, will Kirito have sex with another girl irl? I want to believe he will, since he has now openly received a footjob, so it seems like the moral barrier shouldn’t be an obstacle anymore.

 

[seifukulover]

I don't understand why some people think the author hates Kirito more than he should for the NTR genre.
And all the teasing about a small penis or poor stamina is a standard NTR tool to show that the protagonist is morally down and willing to admit that her boyfriend is very bad in bed.
For games where the girl is taken away by some jealous, bitter arsehole, the comparison is normal. The asshole wants to show the protagonist that even though she loves and dates the protagonist, her body really recognises only the asshole as a sexual partner, and the ideal protagonist can't give the whore what she wants.
If Inoda had cum in Kirito's coffee or ordered Asuna to make out with Kirito after she rimmed, then yes, you could say that the main character's humiliation in the game is above the norm or something. But Inoda just enjoys corrupting Asuna and morally destroying her.
And you have to realise that the story is seen through the point of view of Inoda, who is ugly and insignificant compared to the perfect Kirito. Inoda wants to prolong this victory over Kirito.
So I can't relate Fujino's dislike of Kirito to this at all and what it even is.

I think it's the memory rewriting. It's one thing to take Kirito's future with Asuna away, but to take his past away as well, it seems especially cruel to me. It feels like an attack on the canon itself, more than anything else in this game. I don't know if this sort of thing is the norm for NTR games since I don't really play them (playing this was how I learned I don't like NTR). But why even include a storyline like this unless you really hated the guy?

 

[mos555]

I don't understand why some people think the author hates Kirito more than he should for the NTR genre.
And all the teasing about a small penis or poor stamina is a standard NTR tool to show that the protagonist is morally down and willing to admit that her boyfriend is very bad in bed.
For games where the girl is taken away by some jealous, bitter arsehole, the comparison is normal. The asshole wants to show the protagonist that even though she loves and dates the protagonist, her body really recognises only the asshole as a sexual partner, and the ideal protagonist can't give the whore what she wants.
If Inoda had cum in Kirito's coffee or ordered Asuna to make out with Kirito after she rimmed, then yes, you could say that the main character's humiliation in the game is above the norm or something. But Inoda just enjoys corrupting Asuna and morally destroying her.
And you have to realise that the story is seen through the point of view of Inoda, who is ugly and insignificant compared to the perfect Kirito. Inoda wants to prolong this victory over Kirito.
So I can't relate Fujino's dislike of Kirito to this at all and what it even is.

Of course, we won't be able to determine exactly how Fujino feels about Kirito.

But it is very noticeable that there are too many scenes of Kirito's humiliation in the game. You can exclude the scenes with Asuna because they are necessary, but here are the scenes with the rest of the girls... Most of them don't play any role at all, they have no contribution to the plot, no value for the development of Asuna's passion and lust, and no objective value in the actual staging of the scenes, because the players realized in the first part that Kirito was bad at sex. It was not necessary to put such an emphasis on this in the second part. In fact, at this point in the game, Kirito is just a camera on feet, and to focus so much attention and spend so much time trying to show us how bad he is at sex - is a little too much.

From this, we can conclude that either Fujino is trying to rebealize Kirito - even with a small penis, he has a harem (but to be honest, I doubt it), or he is preparing the ground for Kirito's even greater humiliation in the end, which, I repeat, does not matter at all, because what Asuna abandoning\getting pregnant\forcing Kirito to be a willing cuckold is enough to humiliating Kirito. That is, as a conclusion, for some reason Fujino is fixated on Kirito's constant humiliation. Fujino expressed his opinion about 2 of the 3 main characters, but for some reason completely ignored Kirito. Even if Fujino has an opinion about Kirito, it's unlikely that he can express sympathy or hatred directly.

 

[mos555]

I wonder what Inoda would do if Asuna met someone with that size?
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Sigh, now that the game is approaching its end, will Kirito have sex with another girl irl? I want to believe he will, since he has now openly received a footjob, so it seems like the moral barrier shouldn’t be an obstacle anymore.

I have a theory that Kirito, voluntarily and consciously, will never have sex with anyone in the real world. As another level of humiliation. Either he will be interrupted at the most important moment, or he will be afraid that Asuna will discover him, or Inoda, as always, will find out about everything and will blackmail him.

This is just a theory. I base this judgment on the fact that Fujino seems to be slowing down Kirito's progress towards sex. For example, nothing prevented him from eliminating Sinon in the last update and leaving Suguha and Kirito alone so that they could move on, but in the end there was a regression. Well... Let's see what happens next.

 

[Arya12345]

Still calling it, Asuna and Suguha getting creampied at the same time

 

[Aniky Light]

Still calling it, Asuna and Suguha getting creampied at the same time

From whom?

 

[Aniky Light]

I wonder what the game would be like if Suguha was a futa

 

[Arya12345]

From whom?

Asuna gets from Inoda and Suguha from Kirito

 

[Uwukz]

I think it's the memory rewriting. It's one thing to take Kirito's future with Asuna away, but to take his past away as well, it seems especially cruel to me. It feels like an attack on the canon itself, more than anything else in this game. I don't know if this sort of thing is the norm for NTR games since I don't really play them (playing this was how I learned I don't like NTR). But why even include a storyline like this unless you really hated the guy?

I think you're misunderstanding that memory rewrite episode. You see Kirito's humiliation, but I primarily see it as a way to make Asuna more conspiratorial and make her like Inoda a little bit, and a bridge to Asuna helping Inoda corrupt Liz.
Also, you're exaggerating the significance of the memory rewrite too much. The past hasn't changed, Kirito's past hasn't changed. It's just that the current Asuna was made to think she met Inoda back in SAO.
And in general in NTR the protagonist can't be in any way not humiliated, it's impossible. Because his love smiles sweetly at him and says she loves him, while she is fucking someone else and sucking someone else's cock.

 

[mos555]

I wonder what the game would be like if Suguha was a futa

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[Arya12345]

I think you're misunderstanding that memory rewrite episode. You see Kirito's humiliation, but I primarily see it as a way to make Asuna more conspiratorial and make her like Inoda a little bit, and a bridge to Asuna helping Inoda corrupt Liz.
Also, you're exaggerating the significance of the memory rewrite too much. The past hasn't changed, Kirito's past hasn't changed. It's just that the current Asuna was made to think she met Inoda back in SAO.
And in general in NTR the protagonist can't be in any way not humiliated, it's impossible. Because his love smiles sweetly at him and says she loves him, while she is fucking someone else and sucking someone else's cock.

To add it seemed to me at least the whole memory rewrite thing isn't impacting Asuna irl but I guess we have to wait and see what the next updates do

 

[Uwukz]

To add it seemed to me at least the whole memory rewrite thing isn't impacting Asuna irl but I guess we have to wait and see what the next updates do

It does. Inoda mentioned helping Liz, saying that Asuna had promised to help him back in SAO.