RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ3.1] [Fujino]

[AlterInfernalAllius]

When it comes to what one can consider good art, pornography more than anything, everything is very subjective. What is a good comedy? Perhaps to me seeing an Inoda shaped human getting hit by a comicadically large truck might be the peak of comedy, easily getting a laughter out of me, while to others lucky enough to have never seen the piggy, they most likely wouldn't share my opinion.
At the end of the day, good porn is the piece that manages to excite you the most.

And to me, 99 times out of 100, AI hentai is unfappable due to how boring it looks.
It is certainly impressive how the plagiarizing machine is capable of giving us such polished works, but I cannot help but finding them completely bland at the end of the day.

Spoiler: An example or two

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The quality of those pictures is certainly good, a few issues here or there, but they are objectively well generated.

And I don’t know why, perhaps how streamlined and smooth it looks, perhaps the lack of dynamism in the style, or maybe even the fact that I know a program generated the imagines in 4 seconds, but I cannot feel a single tiny bit excited while looking at them.

Of course, there are AI works that I do enjoy out there.

Spoiler: A good example

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Fujino's work with his 3d models is undoubtedly a lot more 'flawed' in terms of artwork, consistency, and many other subjects one uses to judge a piece of work. Yet, even just looking at his scenes from the CG folder is more than enough to get me going.
Perhaps it's the human element that manages to influence my subconscious into acting unwise.

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Even a simple sketch of Suguha is infinitely more enjoyable for me than even the most well-crafted piece of plagiarized AI content.
So far at the very least, give it 5 or so more years and who knows what the computers will be cooking.

Perhaps every denizen of the internet will be able to request an immediate piece of art of Inoda stubbing his toes against furniture while crying, simply by clicking a button.

Yeah, then I'm sorry to say it's 100% either subjective or a you-thing there, I find those AI arts you mentioned infinitely hotter than the Sugu sketch there, even if it's from an hilarious classic XP Everyone has their own likes though, so there is nothing really wrong with that ^_^

 

[4-kun]

When it comes to what one can consider good art, pornography more than anything, everything is very subjective. What is a good comedy? Perhaps to me seeing an Inoda shaped human getting hit by a comicadically large truck might be the peak of comedy, easily getting a laughter out of me, while to others lucky enough to have never seen the piggy, they most likely wouldn't share my opinion.
At the end of the day, good porn is the piece that manages to excite you the most.

And to me, 99 times out of 100, AI hentai is unfappable due to how boring it looks.
It is certainly impressive how the plagiarizing machine is capable of giving us such polished works, but I cannot help but finding them completely bland at the end of the day.

Spoiler: An example or two

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The quality of those pictures is certainly good, a few issues here or there, but they are objectively well generated.

And I don’t know why, perhaps how streamlined and smooth it looks, perhaps the lack of dynamism in the style, or maybe even the fact that I know a program generated the imagines in 4 seconds, but I cannot feel a single tiny bit excited while looking at them.

Of course, there are AI works that I do enjoy out there.

Spoiler: A good example

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Fujino's work with his 3d models is undoubtedly a lot more 'flawed' in terms of artwork, consistency, and many other subjects one uses to judge a piece of work. Yet, even just looking at his scenes from the CG folder is more than enough to get me going.
Perhaps it's the human element that manages to influence my subconscious into acting unwise.

View attachment 4035556
Even a simple sketch of Suguha is infinitely more enjoyable for me than even the most well-crafted piece of plagiarized AI content.
So far at the very least, give it 5 or so more years and who knows what the computers will be cooking.

Perhaps every denizen of the internet will be able to request an immediate piece of art of Inoda stubbing his toes against furniture while crying, simply by clicking a button.

I think there's a certain bias against AI-generated art because people know it wasn’t made by a human. Plus, basic AI often has that unnatural glare effect. But the real issue is that most artists just use AI to get quick results instead of putting in the work and using it as a tool. A few years ago, a photographer won an award but didn’t accept it because the photo was AI-generated. He had worked so much on it that even experts couldn’t tell, so I’d say it really depends.

Btw, I also like the AI pics more. The other one is just a sketch. Without context, I probably couldn’t even tell that’s Suguha at first glance. But I get your point, it's a bit RNG with ai-art.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I think there's a certain bias against AI-generated art because people know it wasn’t made by a human. Plus, basic AI often has that unnatural glare effect. But the real issue is that most artists just use AI to get quick results instead of putting in the work and using it as a tool. A few years ago, a photographer won an award but didn’t accept it because the photo was AI-generated. He had worked so much on it that even experts couldn’t tell, so I’d say it really depends.

Btw, I also like the AI pics more. The other one is just a sketch. Without context, I probably couldn’t even tell that’s Suguha at first glance. But I get your point, it's a bit RNG with ai-art.

As you said, it really depends, for example years ago people were completely against and shitting on Koikatsu works coming out, even Hentai ones which were, obviously, its primary source of content, because it was a 3D anime-like program and not 'real art'...nowadays, while still disliked by some, it's not only massively accepted but borderline artistic in many circles and levels, and we even get lots of games like the Fujino ones that are entirely made using KK models and scenes (You can find tons of them regularly on these forums in fact=, which wouldn't have been possible if it had died off like so many people seemed to want at the beginning, if it did Fujino could have never been an H-game creator, so yeah, I would say give AI a chance because you never know how things can change 10 or even just 5 years from now, I myself have already played at least one H-RPG Maker game using fully AI-generated art that I honestly found very enjoyable if not complex in the slightest XP

Also, to enhance your 'enjoyment' of the sketch, if you try and look to the side, you will see mini-chibis that are supposed to be Asuna, Liz, and Silica trying to tell Kirito that Suguha is obviously awake and just pretending to be online so she can enjoy him fucking her while awake XD (More context would require explaining the whole mini-doujin, and at that point is better to go read it yourself )

 

[Aniky Light]

i really hope kirito finds out everything and beat the shit outta inoda in front of asuna. it'd be so satisfying to watch

Exactly, just stop humiliating the protagonist all the time and it's time to give that fat guy a good lesson

 

[kinglionheart]

You didn't get me, I wasn't specifically talking about the scene itself, but more of Suguha's attitude/reactions in the actual story...hell, as I mentioned, the scene where you ACTUALLY find out she hasn't actually been fucking him with her pussy yet is a minor thing that if you don't watch her rec. room you CAN completely miss, at least so far, it's not mentioned anywhere in the story at all, so it seems VERY afterthought-like given how it seems like a big deal plot-wise XD Hell, if that scene didn't exist I'm sure you can agree EVERYONE going through the main story so far would be convinced she had been riding him raw to have her womb filled every single time she could, because the story and her attitude literally don't hint at anything else, certainly not to that overly specific restraint when she's already, you know, raping him while he's out of it and recording herself to masturbate to it later lol

Okay you meant how inconsequential that reveal was. Considering only she knows she is riding Kirito regularly, that little but important detail for meant for us the player. So like some other details Fujino makes it is one of those things only people who actually care about his story would know.

The main story is through Kirito's POV so him not getting any hints about this makes sense. It would be funny if there were scenes where whenever Suguha was jealous she would think her riding her onii-chan but he can't hear her.

 

[kinglionheart]

i really hope kirito finds out everything and beat the shit outta inoda in front of asuna. it'd be so satisfying to watch

Exactly, just stop humiliating the protagonist all the time and it's time to give that fat guy a good lesson

That would be a fun twist but most likely won't happen in the main game. Maybe in a weird dream sequence like the BBC Asuna one or a bonus ending Fujino might make due to fan request.

 

[SixDates]

That would be a fun twist but most likely won't happen in the main game. Maybe in a weird dream sequence like the BBC Asuna one

Something that makes me hate the conglomerate of clogged arteries that is the fatso of Inoda, besides all his negative traits, is how he is so mean and vindictive against Kirito for really no reason at all, beyond being Asuna's boyfriend and better looking than his war-crime of pimple-ridden face.

Kirito would currently never dream of beating up Inoda, nor does he wish for anything bad to happen to him, even when he is third-wheeling his entire relationship like he was the inventor of the tricycle.

Sure, he thought of Fatsoda as someone fat and ugly a couple times, but beyond that Kirito has been quite good to Inoda at every opportunity, even trying to help him get along with Liz when he thought he had a crush on her.

So when I see how one-sided Inoda's hatred for Kirito is, I cannot help but dislike him even more than he already deserves.

 

[Aniky Light]

That would be a fun twist but most likely won't happen in the main game. Maybe in a weird dream sequence like the BBC Asuna one or a bonus ending Fujino might make due to fan request.

well, just make a short alternate cutscene without adding it into the game

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Something that makes me hate the conglomerate of clogged arteries that is the fatso of Inoda, besides all his negative traits, is how he is so mean and vindictive against Kirito for really no reason at all, beyond being Asuna's boyfriend and better looking than his war-crime of pimple-ridden face.

Kirito would currently never dream of beating up Inoda, nor does he wish for anything bad to happen to him, even when he is third-wheeling his entire relationship like he was the inventor of the tricycle.

Sure, he thought of Fatsoda as someone fat and ugly a couple times, but beyond that Kirito has been quite good to Inoda at every opportunity, even trying to help him get along with Liz when he thought he had a crush on her.

So when I see how one-sided Inoda's hatred for Kirito is, I cannot help but dislike him even more than he already deserves.

Yeah, Inoda really is the worst possible combination of traits for a NTR MC, at least Fujino's NTR Chads didn't make it their life missions to specifically obsessively hate the MC for no reason at all, they actually focus on fucking the girls more, Inoda sometimes seems as obsessed with hating Kirito's guts for being one of the only persons in the world to ever try to be nice to him as he's with stealing his wife, lol.

 

[Aniky Light]

Do you still think AI art sucks?

I borrowed images on Pixiv.

 

[Aniky Light]

it feels too good to be true

The user who created them knows how to use prompts and various settings and obviously will never say which parameters were used.

 

[kinglionheart]

Something that makes me hate the conglomerate of clogged arteries that is the fatso of Inoda, besides all his negative traits, is how he is so mean and vindictive against Kirito for really no reason at all, beyond being Asuna's boyfriend and better looking than his war-crime of pimple-ridden face.

Kirito would currently never dream of beating up Inoda, nor does he wish for anything bad to happen to him, even when he is third-wheeling his entire relationship like he was the inventor of the tricycle.

Sure, he thought of Fatsoda as someone fat and ugly a couple times, but beyond that Kirito has been quite good to Inoda at every opportunity, even trying to help him get along with Liz when he thought he had a crush on her.

So when I see how one-sided Inoda's hatred for Kirito is, I cannot help but dislike him even more than he already deserves.

Agree with Inoda being a terrible piece of shit. But with Kirito being nice to Inoda, to me it is not because Kirito is a good guy but because he thinks Inoda is not worth worrying about. Inoda is so weak and ugly that Kirito doesn't believe he is a threat to him. He is surprised when Inoda gets a girlfriend and doesn't believe he can do anything alone. Kirito is very kind to Inoda but it is more a condescending compassion since he believes he is better than Inoda so it is proper to help him.

 

[Aniky Light]

Agree with Inoda being a terrible piece of shit. But with Kirito being nice to Inoda, to me it is not because Kirito is a good guy but because he thinks Inoda is not worth worrying about. Inoda is so weak and ugly that Kirito doesn't believe he is a threat to him. He is surprised when Inoda gets a girlfriend and doesn't believe he can do anything alone. Kirito is very kind to Inoda but it is more a condescending compassion since he believes he is better than Inoda so it is proper to help him.

Kirito will continue to be nice to him until he finds out what Inoda is doing to Asuna

 

[Aniky Light]

If the game had some kind of chat (AI) built into it where you could chat with characters in the game, what would you have written to Asuna? I would have written to her: I know what you do, bitch

 

[SixDates]

Agree with Inoda being a terrible piece of shit. But with Kirito being nice to Inoda, to me it is not because Kirito is a good guy but because he thinks Inoda is not worth worrying about. Inoda is so weak and ugly that Kirito doesn't believe he is a threat to him. He is surprised when Inoda gets a girlfriend and doesn't believe he can do anything alone. Kirito is very kind to Inoda but it is more a condescending compassion since he believes he is better than Inoda so it is proper to help him.

While I do agree with you about Kirito being super condescending for no real reason in Fujino´s game, I don´t believe it´s fair to count against him things like believing Inoda can´t do anything by himself, when the fatso himself is acting like that is the case to exploit the kindness of others.

And this might just be me being a bad person in real life, but if a friend of mine who looked and acted as meek and timid as Inoda in front of Kirito, suddenly got a super good-looking girlfriend, no matter how much I liked said friend, I would be surprised as well.

 

[kinglionheart]

While I do agree with you about Kirito being super condescending for no real reason in Fujino´s game, I don´t believe it´s fair to count against him things like believing Inoda can´t do anything by himself, when the fatso himself is acting like that is the case to exploit the kindness of others.

And this might just be me being a bad person in real life, but if a friend of mine who looked and acted as meek and timid as Inoda in front of Kirito, suddenly got a super good-looking girlfriend, no matter how much I liked said friend, I would be surprised as well.

Yea, Kirito is actively helping out Inoda because he believes Inoda is a weaker person and doesn't believe he will lose anything from helping him. Inoda is actively exploiting his kindness. Kirito is helping out Inoda a lot more than he expected and hurting himself. That is be the joke or irony for Kirito.

 

[por12]

on sunday the dev should publish a progress update,right?

 

[Misarmor]

on sunday the dev should publish a progress update,right?

I guess it depends on your timezone. For me, it's more around Monday at noon.

 

[skizzat93]

The user who created them knows how to use prompts and various settings and obviously will never say which parameters were used.

It's not that difficult to make those images, I made some very similar in around 20 minutes months ago, you just need a good lora, make 200 images and pick the best ones, the problem is making them consistent and have the character doing various actions, one off images like those are really easy, it takes a bit of times and that's it.

on sunday the dev should publish a progress update,right?

Monday just after noon in EU usually and I think really early morning in the us

 

[Aniky Light]

It's not that difficult to make those images, I made some very similar in around 20 minutes months ago, you just need a good lora, make 200 images and pick the best ones, the problem is making them consistent and have the character doing various actions, one off images like those are really easy, it takes a bit of times and that's it.



Monday just after noon in EU usually and I think really early morning in the us

you also need a good checkpoint that suits the Loras