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I'm a former dev and even I think 25$/month is way too much. If they had a Tier-System like Kickstarter: You paid 40-50$, you unlock the game and can download it for free from then on.
Yes he literally pirating money from supporters pocket for the ten minute content every two weeks and stupid whales still supporting that. Also you are right about tier system like kickstarter but he do that after game finished he sold the finished copy on the steam way cheaper than than it production phase cost. He found a clever way to fool people and turn them as ATM machine.
 

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$25 per month for a game that's gonna take 18 to 24 months to complete.

when in reality it only takes 5 to 6 months to complete (max)

even at 6 months who the fuck wants to pay $150.00 for a bottom tier game let alone paying for 2 years.

sounds like a Metallica marketing tactic to me !!

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Maybe you haven't seen the interview. The main reason is that the producers feel that the money you pay can directly play the first three works, which makes the first three works lose their value, so they need to increase the overall price to ensure that the first three works are valuable. If you like any of the previous completed works, go to Steam to buy it.
Buying from the steam is not problematic but what he is doing he taking the production cost from his patreon supporters and not a single gaming studio do this practice they produce's the game first then start selling it but what NLT is doing he releasing the chunks of the game selling it on high price then after completion selling it on steam. He is taking money from us to produce the game that means he made us inverters and earning money from our produce cost and taking the whole money. In that case supporters are the big clowns. Few months ago i saw Treasure Of Nadia getting sold on his patreon only on 2$ full game. If you calculate the money he earned in the time span of production then multiply 22*24 = 528$ Just from one supporter now multiply it with 10k supporters. 528*10000 = 5280000$ he earned that much money in the time span of the treasure of nadia and now he is selling it in two dollars.
 
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NLT has more than 11k paid members and he also do promotion for other games i don't think he will doing it for free. Still he was caring about piracy so hard instead of that he can focus on his work and release big updates per two weeks and become more successful. Piracy is thing that cant be stopped now big media houses and studios already tried that but they failed. So putting so much effort in it doesn't matter and people who pirate the game never ever will become your paid member just because they cant afford that not because they don't want pay.
If they are so focused on fighting the piracy, that's a bad sign, I'm afraid. One moron named Project Helius has already added Denuvo to their porn game. I hope NLT won't be that dumb...
 
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If they are so focused on fighting with piracy, that's a bad sign, I'm afraid. One moron named Project Helius has already added Denuvo to their porn game. I hope NLT won't be that dumb...
I dont think NLT will add Denuvo to his game because his website is very good design that doesnt let you download the latest version for free so he wouldn't spend money on Denuvo and also NLT is a money hungry developer so he think thrice before adding Denuvo because you have to pay the fees to the team Denuvo to continue protecting your game also thats not the full proof as well Epmress can crack the Dunevo.
 

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Покупка в Steam не проблема, но то, что он делает, он берет стоимость производства со своих сторонников на Patreon, и ни одна игровая студия не делает этого, они сначала производят игру, а затем начинают ее продавать, но то, что делает NLT, он выпускает куски игры, продавая их по высокой цене, а затем после завершения продает их в Steam. Он берет у нас деньги за производство игры, что означает, что он сделал нам инверторы и заработал деньги на нашей стоимости производства и забрал все деньги. В этом случае сторонники - большие клоуны. Несколько месяцев назад я видел, как Treasure Of Nadia продавалась на его Patreon всего за 2 доллара за полную игру. Если вы подсчитаете деньги, которые он заработал за время производства, то умножьте 22*24 = 528$ Только от одного сторонника, теперь умножьте это на 10 тысяч сторонников. 528*10000 = 5280000$ он заработал столько денег за время существования Treasure of Nadia, и теперь он продает ее по два доллара.
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Это называется вырвать клок шерсти из овцы. На фоне пиратства и утечек.
 
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If they are so focused on fighting the piracy, that's a bad sign, I'm afraid. One moron named Project Helius has already added Denuvo to their porn game. I hope NLT won't be that dumb...
NLT isn't the first to implement anti-piracy measures into their game, there are plenty of games with those around (hence why you often see "cracked"/"uncracked" version downloads)
 

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Indeed, this is a helpless thing. I don’t know whether a professional pornographic game company can be established in the future and have enough advertising sponsorship.
 

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I dont think NLT will add Denuvo to his game because his website is very good design that doesnt let you download the latest version for free so he wouldn't spend money on Denuvo and also NLT is a money hungry developer so he think thrice before adding Denuvo because you have to pay the fees to the team Denuvo to continue protecting your game also thats not the full proof as well Epmress can crack the Dunevo.
Empress has been doing whatever he wants for a long time, but not hacking games... now he doesn’t even pay attention to AAA games.
I agree with you that it will be very unprofitable for NLT. Denuvo makes sense when the game has already been released and holds players back in the first months of sales.
NLT is in production constantly - he would have to use this protection all the time and pay a lot of money for it. I don't think that makes sense to him. Now he has a more than working containment system)
 

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NLT isn't the first to implement anti-piracy measures into their game, there are plenty of games with those around (hence why you often see "cracked"/"uncracked" version downloads)
NLTs new launcher for SoTS was most likely a direct response to TGOs launcher being cracked.
 
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What the hell happened why my post showing in russian in your reply i dont know russian.
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Buying on Steam is not a problem but what he does is he takes the production cost from his Patreon supporters and no game studio does that they first produce the game and then start selling it but what NLT does is he releases chunks of the game selling them at a high price and then after completion he sells them on Steam. He takes the production money from us which means he made us inverters and made money from our production cost and took all the money. In this case the supporters are big clowns. A few months ago I saw Treasure Of Nadia being sold on his Patreon for only $2 for the full game. If you calculate the money he made during the production then multiply 22*24 = $528 From just one supporter now multiply that by 10k supporters. 528*10000 = $5280000 is how much money he made during the existence of Treasure of Nadia, and now he sells it for two dollars.
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This is called pulling a tuft of wool from a sheep. Against the backdrop of piracy and leaks.
 

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I don't understand the argument about Patreon. Patreon is about supporting an artist or developer. How people choose to spend their money is up to them. You aren't forced to support as the games come to steam and GoG anyways. So if you wanted to treat it like a normal game you can.

Also I highly doubt it's NLT emailing people to stop them sharing pirated copies. I bet he's just green lit someone to do it for him.
 

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I don't understand the argument about Patreon. Patreon is about supporting an artist or developer. How people choose to spend their money is up to them. You aren't forced to support as the games come to steam and GoG anyways. So if you wanted to treat it like a normal game you can.

Also I highly doubt it's NLT emailing people to stop them sharing pirated copies. I bet he's just green lit someone to do it for him.
(y) A whole set of 3 already completed games is being sold on Steam for some ridiculous price tag. Very wallet-friendly price. And this is many dozens of hours of playthrough with first-class scenes..
And everyone can do this - just wait for the completed game. For those who like to see the game earlier, it’s a different story. Yes, the price tag is high for getting the latest version, but here everyone has the right to make their own decision about support. For $2, the sponsor will eventually receive a completed game, although he will be behind.
 

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I don't understand the argument about Patreon. Patreon is about supporting an artist or developer. How people choose to spend their money is up to them. You aren't forced to support as the games come to steam and GoG anyways. So if you wanted to treat it like a normal game you can.

Also I highly doubt it's NLT emailing people to stop them sharing pirated copies. I bet he's just green lit someone to do it for him.
His discord mods doing that and threatening people for legal consequences but i don't know they are stupid or something in many countries piracy laws are doesn't even exist so suing them its big waste of money and time. If i say about my country there are laws against the piracy but they are on very low priority in terms of judgment and hearing because there are lots of pending cases in my country.

Edit : For the supporters there are many people in this world who can earn huge money and they dont care to waste it on product like this.
 
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Empress has been doing whatever he wants for a long time, but not hacking games... now he doesn’t even pay attention to AAA games.
I agree with you that it will be very unprofitable for NLT. Denuvo makes sense when the game has already been released and holds players back in the first months of sales.
NLT is in production constantly - he would have to use this protection all the time and pay a lot of money for it. I don't think that makes sense to him. Now he has a more than working containment system)
Yes agreed with you. Empress is girl by the way. She got arrested few months ago thats why she is on a break after release but she becomes active now on her telegram channel and i think she will start cracking games soon.
 
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