HTML Syrup Town [v7.1] [NoodleJacuzzi]

[xxxthrowawaypornxxx]

So.... What i need to do?

1. Did you download a full version or an upgrade version?
2. If you did download an upgrade version did you extract it into an full older version or did you try to run it on it's own?
3. If you did upgrade did the old and new versions use the same image format?

If it's not something related to that I have no clue.

 

[icollectsouls]

I've probably been overcorrecting since then trying to avoid people starting fights, I just want to make porn games... I'll see about adding a cheat that lets you manually enable/disable characters regardless of the mode.

This sounds like a great idea, though I also feel like just implementing that instead of the modes at the beginning would be even better.
Alternatively I'd have a system in place for keeping everything "unlocked" by default but then giving you a choice if a character can appear/what genitals they have (if available) before you actually "encounter" them, especially if it also details what kind of content/kinks/etc. that particular character is going to be primarily associated with. I feel like that would also go a long way of easing the "new character introduction" process and give players more control over what they can see.
Another possible option would just be giving the player content filters or something. My only preference would be to not see any "male-identifying characters," for example (at least for what's implemented in the game so far), but another person might be fine with either gender identity but not want to see pregnancy-related content.

 

[zombiehunter6]

1. Did you download a full version or an upgrade version?
2. If you did download an upgrade version did you extract it into an full older version or did you try to run it on it's own?
3. If you did upgrade did the old and new versions use the same image format?

If it's not something related to that I have no clue.

I already figured out what waas wrong. So now other question. How to get Temp Mayor trophy? I visited her and she had full lust but no trophy? I got all scenes at her

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

While v5 will primarily focus on introducing Mary-Lou, there's still Helena content I need to wrap up. Namely inviting you to her house, the first time anal scene, and at least one repeatable so there's actually something to do in there.

For her house I wanted something that communicates her effectively. I guess the best term to define her is "Confident Girlfailure"? I'm not exactly up to date with modern lingo, but I appreciate any new word that helps me communicate complex topics better.



I like how it came out cramped, not -too- messy, and looking more like a shed than a home. That door on the right there leads to the bathroom, and another door past that leads to her 'garage' (which yes means her bathroom is also a hallway) where she keeps a broken-down motorbike she found. It's actually a broken dirtbike, but she doesn't know the difference.

Here's a larger shot of the poster on her wall:



Helena has no idea who it's of, she just thinks the poster's neat. The bat girl is the august seasonal meat character planned for the future.
I'll add a flag so you can bring up this poster later, if I remember.

Shots like these (like I used with Sharly and Sorbet's mothers) don't blend into the locations as much as I'd like, but it's fun. It'd be fun to add more, I could see helena covering her entire wall, but I don't want to have to keep track of that for scenes taking place in Helena's house.

As for those scenes, I know I need -some- anal but I'm still in the experimenting phase, not totally sure what I'll do aside from that.

I kinda have a problem with game. I laucnh it and there just no arts, just paper that showing that images are broken or something like that

Sorry I was late with this one. I'm glad to hear you solved it at least. What was the issue?

For some reason im not being able to get the "Temp Mayor" trophy even after completing that scene multiple times, already tried skipping the day and it didnt changed anything.. here's the save if it helps

I already figured out what waas wrong. So now other question. How to get Temp Mayor trophy? I visited her and she had full lust but no trophy? I got all scenes at her

Ah, that's bugged. I must have made a mistake somewhere with the new chat system and my test save was able to meet the requirements whereas new saves can't. I'll remove that requirement and have it fixed for v5.

This sounds like a great idea, though I also feel like just implementing that instead of the modes at the beginning would be even better.

Alternatively I'd have a system in place for keeping everything "unlocked" by default but then giving you a choice if a character can appear/what genitals they have (if available) before you actually "encounter" them, especially if it also details what kind of content/kinks/etc. that particular character is going to be primarily associated with. I feel like that would also go a long way of easing the "new character introduction" process and give players more control over what they can see.

Another possible option would just be giving the player content filters or something. My only preference would be to not see any "male-identifying characters," for example (at least for what's implemented in the game so far), but another person might be fine with either gender identity but not want to see pregnancy-related content.

The modes are easier to implement a lot easier to include in an overview reddit post shilling the game, and trying to account for completionists who want 100% without interacting with stuff they dislike. Those are why I haven't added any content filtering since then. I thought about adding filters to disable planned niche content in advance, but I'd feel bad if there were some toggle for disabling something like pregnancy, building player hopes up in a game that doesn't have any yet.

I didn't want to fill up the intro too much, plus I'd probably forget to go back and keep things up to date. It's easier for me when I can stop thinking about things like the intro and just lock in on developing new content, it'd be nice to work on a dev team someday.

I generally try to have the character's first encounters communicate their vibe. In Hentai University I tried out having options to disable characters after meeting them, but that wasn't enough for some folks and led to needing to fix savedata for players who clicked those options by accident.

It definitely must be some kind of content filter. Sometimes a fetish is contained almost entirely to one character, but other times it's just one optional scene. I'd like to find a way for players to still get that completion crown without needing to interact with things they dislike. I'm also just one noodle though >.< I wish there more hours in the day to polish, write for, and write about games.

 

[zombiehunter6]

While v5 will primarily focus on introducing Mary-Lou, there's still Helena content I need to wrap up. Namely inviting you to her house, the first time anal scene, and at least one repeatable so there's actually something to do in there.

For her house I wanted something that communicates her effectively. I guess the best term to define her is "Confident Girlfailure"? I'm not exactly up to date with modern lingo, but I appreciate any new word that helps me communicate complex topics better.

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I like how it came out cramped, not -too- messy, and looking more like a shed than a home. That door on the right there leads to the bathroom, and another door past that leads to her 'garage' (which yes means her bathroom is also a hallway) where she keeps a broken-down motorbike she found. It's actually a broken dirtbike, but she doesn't know the difference.

Here's a larger shot of the poster on her wall:

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Helena has no idea who it's of, she just thinks the poster's neat. The bat girl is the august seasonal meat character planned for the future.
I'll add a flag so you can bring up this poster later, if I remember.

Shots like these (like I used with Sharly and Sorbet's mothers) don't blend into the locations as much as I'd like, but it's fun. It'd be fun to add more, I could see helena covering her entire wall, but I don't want to have to keep track of that for scenes taking place in Helena's house.

As for those scenes, I know I need -some- anal but I'm still in the experimenting phase, not totally sure what I'll do aside from that.

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Sorry I was late with this one. I'm glad to hear you solved it at least. What was the issue?





Ah, that's bugged. I must have made a mistake somewhere with the new chat system and my test save was able to meet the requirements whereas new saves can't. I'll remove that requirement and have it fixed for v5.



The modes are easier to implement a lot easier to include in an overview reddit post shilling the game, and trying to account for completionists who want 100% without interacting with stuff they dislike. Those are why I haven't added any content filtering since then. I thought about adding filters to disable planned niche content in advance, but I'd feel bad if there were some toggle for disabling something like pregnancy, building player hopes up in a game that doesn't have any yet.

I didn't want to fill up the intro too much, plus I'd probably forget to go back and keep things up to date. It's easier for me when I can stop thinking about things like the intro and just lock in on developing new content, it'd be nice to work on a dev team someday.

I generally try to have the character's first encounters communicate their vibe. In Hentai University I tried out having options to disable characters after meeting them, but that wasn't enough for some folks and led to needing to fix savedata for players who clicked those options by accident.

It definitely must be some kind of content filter. Sometimes a fetish is contained almost entirely to one character, but other times it's just one optional scene. I'd like to find a way for players to still get that completion crown without needing to interact with things they dislike. I'm also just one noodle though >.< I wish there more hours in the day to polish, write for, and write about games.

My mistake. I juits downloaded 3->4 upgrade pack and that's why everything was broken. So i downloaded ver4 and everything was normal. Update is interesting. Wallbutt, hyena that want main character. Hope for more content.
Also how bout to add Caynne's (when he's cuntboy), Sorbet's, Sharly's, Garnet's, Angelica's (when she's not futa), Bluebell's (when she's not futa) pregnancy's not in fashion wing in museum? Just had thought'sthat if main character gonna have sex (5 time or more) with those, then in one moment they are gonna be pregnant

 

[xxxthrowawaypornxxx]

Just had thought'sthat if main character gonna have sex (5 time or more) with those, then in one moment they are gonna be pregnant

Humans and Anthros have low breeding odds outside of specific rare cases.
In gameplay terms this means ending-only pregnancy outside of one character.

 

[TeakOxls]

My only preference would be to not see any "male-identifying characters," for example (at least for what's implemented in the game so far), but another person might be fine with either gender identity but not want to see pregnancy-related content.

it me.

Also, the new update is up-great. Helena perfectly lives up to expectations, and the new Mayor content ain't bad, either! It'd be nice to have some way to have more tours with Helena, even after triggering the 'finale'. I missed a couple scenes before running out of time, and ended up having to load a previous save to see the rest.


Aaand for the typo roundup:

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

Hello hello all, I return from the mines to show off all I've finished so far:


Mary-Lou is nearly done. All her images are generated and polished, all the framework and such are already in place, all that's left for me to do for her is the writing.

Structurally she'll go really fast, you'll already be invited to her home and be able to do repeatables by the time you're done with v5, since in order for her to believably pregnant her 4rd encounter is a week long impregnation marathon, which will actually be 4 scenes in one and uses 22 images. Plenty of writing to do!



The new expression sets for Cayenne and Mary-Lou are fully done. Mary-Lou being pregnant most of the time made things harder, I had to do a full extra set of arousal sprites and her clothes for her non-pregnant expressions. These new style of expression sets are still hard to do, there's no easy way to get all the cropping and cleaning done.

I had planned to do the whole cast in just 2 updates but here I am with only 4/14 done. Still, I won't give up!



The pocketmanz rework is going smoothly. My plan is to separate the cards into some categories, and the weirdest ones will be put in a secondary set unlocked through a "monster-fucker liscence" obtained at the museum. This way pocketmanz like magnemite and weedle won't traumatize my vanilla audience, and all the... Let's say connoisseurs will have a lot to dig into.

And finally I take breaks on the weekend and just work on whatever. Usually this is just more Syrup Town but this last weekend I wrote a bunch of documents and generated a bunch of images inspired by Vanillaware titles.

The documents are mostly just math and potential mechanics though. This weekend I plan on exploring stuff and seeing how crazy trying to get a super simplified RTS working in javascript will drive me. GrimGrimoire meets Unicorn Overlord (because managing like 50 grunts in my unoptimized engines? No way), but with porn. And shortstacks.





It'll be fun designing a game with actual gameplay, though without being on a team I don't think I'll be able to flesh it out into a full game. Maybe I should work up some kind of game adoption program where I generate art, build the engine, and give a design document and give the starting push to other game developers? I think that'd be neat. I get messaged by quite a few creatives interested in starting their own games but don't know where to start. I really wanna play Argent Science and the Ahemaru RPG idea I had before someday, but there's still HU, HAA, Rainy DayZ, and by God I'm only one noodle!

Humans and Anthros have low breeding odds outside of specific rare cases.
In gameplay terms this means ending-only pregnancy outside of one character.

Random fun fact: That moment of clarity just before the creampie hits was originally intended to be the effect used to imply impregnation, along with a fertilized ovum, but I chickened out and used the effect early to make writing the scenes easier.

Now I'm experimenting with different effects since Mary-Lou has actual impregnation. A shot of glass breaking overlaid onto the image, a flash-forward of her future children, the electric effect I tried before, etc.

it me.

Also, the new update is up-great. Helena perfectly lives up to expectations, and the new Mayor content ain't bad, either! It'd be nice to have some way to have more tours with Helena, even after triggering the 'finale'. I missed a couple scenes before running out of time, and ended up having to load a previous save to see the rest.


Aaand for the typo roundup:

I'm glad Helena's been well received, I will say I'm surprised at people asking for a version of carnivore that allows for female-identifying sausage wielders. HU's had like 10 updates with girls with dicks and I don't recall people asking for a way for them to appear for vegetarians. I wonder if Syrup Town really does have a completely different audience altogether?

I am actually a bit stuck on Helena atm. I could let the player do tours again after you enter her house. Or do I do a second type of bringing Helena around the town mechanic instead?

The first option is a lot easier, and would let players get any of the minor things they missed (they didn't miss a lot tbh), but:

• Her gathering encounters while touring are written with her still trying to play cool, so they don't totally make sense after you've become proper friends.
• It'd be pretty hard to add new stuff chronologically that would make sense given most of her touring stuff is written as if you and her only met recently.
• I'm not sure how I'd signify what's new and what's old tour stuff.

So I lean towards doing something new, but don't know what that new thing would be. Or what I'd write to fill the town with these theoretical second tour encounters.

And ty for the typos <3

 

[Gamma47]

I am actually a bit stuck on Helena atm. I could let the player do tours again after you enter her house. Or do I do a second type of bringing Helena around the town mechanic instead?

The first option is a lot easier, and would let players get any of the minor things they missed (they didn't miss a lot tbh), but:

• Her gathering encounters while touring are written with her still trying to play cool, so they don't totally make sense after you've become proper friends.
• It'd be pretty hard to add new stuff chronologically that would make sense given most of her touring stuff is written as if you and her only met recently.
• I'm not sure how I'd signify what's new and what's old tour stuff.

So I lean towards doing something new, but don't know what that new thing would be. Or what I'd write to fill the town with these theoretical second tour encounters.

I think the gathering events should be reserved for after you've befriended her, and she should drop the ruse of coolness. You could potentially have her offer tours as a way to "keep up appearances" so to speak, so everyone else continues to think she's cool. (Which she is, but not leather biker jacket cool. More like a cool older sister or mom friend type of cool.)

I think this would strike a nice narrative balance without having to rewrite too much of what you've already done and keeping her character consistent.

 

[TeakOxls]

Could always have the tour 'replay' be a non-canon thing too, like replaying scenes in the gallery? Leaves you the same flexibility for her future content that Option 2 does, at least.

 

[nobody140]

Would you ever consider expanding the random encounters? I really like the jar and mushroom one. Like you come back to the area afterwards and you see the aftermath of what happened. For example, you come back to the area with the fairy in the jar and they ask you to do it again.

 

[icollectsouls]

I'm glad Helena's been well received, I will say I'm surprised at people asking for a version of carnivore that allows for female-identifying sausage wielders. HU's had like 10 updates with girls with dicks and I don't recall people asking for a way for them to appear for vegetarians. I wonder if Syrup Town really does have a completely different audience altogether?

See, and here I didn't even know HU had girls with dicks, so that means I must've played a good while ago when they weren't in the game, aside from the option to play as one (and then have that illusion kinda shattered when the artwork shows some fat middle-aged man fucking the girl.) Also a possibility that I just completely forgot they were in the game.
So a different audience could be a very likely contributing factor, but from my perspective it feels more like a matter of knowledge about what's in the game - I feel like ST has been way more up-front about its inclusion whereas all I knew about HU was that it had girls/women and femboys, but not futas/dickgirls.
Also, any chance for more female/futa-oriented versions of the Pocketmanz cards? Feels a bit weird to have such a strict distinction between "vegetarian" and "carnivore" that a woman with a penis can't show up in the former, but then you can pick up a bunch of cards of male Pokémon showing off cock and hole.

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

I think the gathering events should be reserved for after you've befriended her, and she should drop the ruse of coolness. You could potentially have her offer tours as a way to "keep up appearances" so to speak, so everyone else continues to think she's cool. (Which she is, but not leather biker jacket cool. More like a cool older sister or mom friend type of cool.)


I think this would strike a nice narrative balance without having to rewrite too much of what you've already done and keeping her character consistent.

All the gathering encounters are already in the game though. Helena has some gathering scenes that play out during the tour where she's trying to stay cool, but after you've befriended her you can get encounters with her while gathering/hunting/fishing, and she's much more visibly enthusiastic.

As for continuing the tours... ->

Could always have the tour 'replay' be a non-canon thing too, like replaying scenes in the gallery? Leaves you the same flexibility for her future content that Option 2 does, at least.

That's a good idea. After you become friends you and her can hang out around town, some kind of "hang out" option that re-uses the tour's mechanics, and a non-cannon replay option.

Hanging out could be the way I implement repeatable scenes, given that her house isn't particularly accommodating. That could be a pretty neat bit of mechanical unique-ness, where her house is lacking the repeatables and they're scattered around the town instead.

Would you ever consider expanding the random encounters? I really like the jar and mushroom one. Like you come back to the area afterwards and you see the aftermath of what happened. For example, you come back to the area with the fairy in the jar and they ask you to do it again.

Yeah sure why not. I put them in as little gags but considering how well received helena was, and how I plan on adding a monster fucker licence, I can probably set up and expand on a small side cast of characters.

I'll have to keep the scope in check (so no lady of the lake putting you in chastity, probably), keep the scenes short, and just use one image for if the shrooms/fairy/misc talk, and not bother making expression sets for them. Nothing too weird or playersub until I get the fetish/content toggles working though.

See, and here I didn't even know HU had girls with dicks, so that means I must've played a good while ago when they weren't in the game, aside from the option to play as one (and then have that illusion kinda shattered when the artwork shows some fat middle-aged man fucking the girl.) Also a possibility that I just completely forgot they were in the game.

So a different audience could be a very likely contributing factor, but from my perspective it feels more like a matter of knowledge about what's in the game - I feel like ST has been way more up-front about its inclusion whereas all I knew about HU was that it had girls/women and femboys, but not futas/dickgirls.

That's a good point, Ophelia and Saffron are pretty minor characters. Though the release posts I do have new characters appearing on the cover images, and Ophelia has a pretty pronounced set of badonkers and a very distinct bulge. If I had the Syrup Town system where new releases include the changelog and new release image in-game they'd be a lot more noticeable.

Agreed on the illusion being shattered. I considered using AI to fix it but I dislike relying on AI heavily in a game that wasn't originally released as an AI game. For Syrup Town I'm keeping it in mind, both by using the actual player image where possible, and adding a system that can use variant images to more accurately reflect the player.

At some point I'll go through the game's images and grab any where the player hands/body are visible and use inpaint to make darker skinned and futa versions, it's just that other features have been more requested, so that's been on the backburner.

Also, any chance for more female/futa-oriented versions of the Pocketmanz cards? Feels a bit weird to have such a strict distinction between "vegetarian" and "carnivore" that a woman with a penis can't show up in the former, but then you can pick up a bunch of cards of male Pokémon showing off cock and hole.

Hrm. Maybe. My current plan is to replace the current set of pocketmanz cards with several sets. Each card could have tags which preclude it from appearing based on the player's selected fetish toggles. I do worry about bloat though, if I were to generate male feral, female feral, male humanoid, female humanoid, futa humanoid, male weird, and female weird, that's a lot to account for.

Anytime I expand the scope of something it limits the cool ideas I can do with that thing. I'd like to have the player obtain packs instead of finding loose cards, but those packs need cover art, and that cover art would also need to account for player preferences.

Speaking of I do only have a quick mockup of those packs:



I've also been working on an opening animation too.

The pocketmanz cards are programmed to only appear after you've decided to collect that first e*v*e card, which shouldn't appear in vegetarian mode. The pocketmanz cards actually were originally designed as a meat only kinda thing, being the opposite of Sharly's tarot cards, which at one point were all veggie content. I kinda blurred the line by including cards of other sexes though.

EDIT: Now that I've made the post I have absolutely no idea why I made the mockup at 2:1, that's not what I use for card sizes at all.
If I just made some kind of marquis full-art card for each category, maybe I could dynamically pick the card art for the pack based on user prefs, instead of manually creating it? But I'd need to figure out masking layers to cut off the empty bits of the pack area, and how to get the top and bottom of the pack to be solid colors based on the card art. Hrm...

 

[TeakOxls]

I mean, as an obligate omnivore, I'll pretty much always be in the camp of 'more content' over 'more filters', but I also have to rely on content filters in other, non-ST games, so I get where that camp is coming from. It's probably going to be a case of picking and judging where you want to draw the line, because some audience members will be snubbed, no matter what.

That said, in this case, why not just... crop out the bits? Pick a handful of 'generally acceptable' p*cketmanz, like Z*r*ark, Me*wscarada, Kabut*ps, L*punny, etc, and just do art for them where their junk is out-of-frame on the booster pack. That way you don't have to worry about veggie vs meat, since they have Schroedinger's genitals. And the majority of people who'd be okay with feral/weird will probably not be upset that the front of the booster isn't fully feral/weird, so long as some of the cards inside are.

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

Alright, I've taken y'all's feedback and added a content preferences menu in the settings menu:



Thus far the toggle-able options are:
- Male Characters
- Female Characters with dicks
- Female Characters without dicks
- Rosebud/anal gaping
- Player sub content
- Pregnancy
- Ferals

These will disable repeatable scenes, disable whole characters, from appearing / being counted in the game's scene count functions.

Here's a handy chart for reference on how characters will be designed:



Characters like Angelica might get playersub content, but it'll just be in the repeatables or side content, so the player can happily avoid that and enjoy the rest of their content
However, playersub is Helena's primary thing, so it's made mandatory. That is why toggling the playersub content will only disable a few optional scenes for Angelica (eventually), but will disable Helena entirely.

Similarly, while all characters can become pregnant in vegetarian route stuff, it's only a major focus for Mary-Lou. And while bisexual content/threesomes would be a optional thing for the foxes, it's a major focus for Nutmeg / Cinnamon. Balancing side content with major focuses is an important part of the design.



In the future I'll add content toggles for watersports, rimming, and content where characters hav seggs without the player present (the last one is mostly for Nutmeg/Cinnamon). But I don't want to add the filters before I actually add the content.

I'm still keeping the vegetarian/carnivore modes but these toggles should be able to whitelist/blacklist characters to bypass that:



Maybe I should put the toggles for Angelica, Bluebell, and Cayenne's sexes in here too?

Oh, and I also finally updated the music section to use sliders instead of buttons (you can still toggle them on/off by tapping the buttons tho):



There's still quite a bit to do. I still need to:
- Fix the foxes relying on just vegetarian mode for Jasper appearing
- Generate the new pocketmanz cards and make sure they're properly tagged
- Only collect, show, and count pocketmanz cards
- Make sure all this looks fine on mobile

Beyond that I also need to write all of Mary-Lou's content, and generate/write Helena's stuff as well.

 

[TeakOxls]

Honestly, yeah, seems as good a place as any to put the gender/genital toggles for those three. Just put all the content options in one centralized spot.

 

[Magic_Dave]

Confused how to Download and play; on PC DL all PNG and all WEBP unzip WEBP, then unzip PNGs and drop the content inside Syrup Town folder created when you unzipped the WEBP.

Great content, all still images Ai Cg, would love to see pubic hair, animations, audio and more images. Great work so far Dev !

 

[xxxthrowawaypornxxx]

Confused how to Download and play; on PC DL all PNG and all WEBP unzip WEBP, then unzip PNGs and drop the content inside Syrup Town folder created when you unzipped the WEBP.

WEBP and PNG are just different image formats, you only need one, not both. Difference is WEBP is slightly lower quality images, but take less hard drive space.

 

[ASDF_THE_Epic]

whats the difference between PNG and WEBP

 

[BackRunner]

whats the difference between PNG and WEBP

PNG = Higher Res Images but Higher Game Size
WEBP = Lower Res Images but Smaller Game Size