Unity Taffy Tales [S1 Redux] [UberPie]

[Kulman]

I look at donating just like I look at any other tip given. Say I am walking down the street and I hear or see a street performer. I may like or even love what they are doing and " IF " (key word) I have money to spare I will give them a tip. I don't see this as a transaction where I expect to receive something more like I just appreciate what I have received. In essence there is no formal or informal contract between me and the performer.

Essentially this IS what Patreon mostly is ( the exception is when the item on Patreon is behind a paywall to get it, does not apply to any Dev that gives a free to play version ). You are tipping because you like it and have no obligation to continue or do it in the first place.

Of course if no one contributes the street performer/patreon devs will likely not be able to continue performing but there was never any agreement from either party that the performer would be able to make a living doing such, nor is there or should be any expectation from the audience/supporters that the performer will continue to be there day after day or what ever the time line is.

I disagree. If it was only about tipping, then all the games on this site would be freely provided by their creators. Why is that not true? Because patreon is a hidden porn game store. You are buying to play the game and see updates on the game.

Yeah, surely plenty people will jump out how they are doing it purely to tip the creator for good work... but that is a loud minority and probably also deluded about their intention. While it might not be "legally" a store, it, for all intents and purposes, IS a store.

It is pretty much a store selling game subscription.

 

[Deleted member 568526]

I disagree. If it was only about tipping, then all the games on this site would be freely provided by their creators. Why is that not true? Because patreon is a hidden porn game store. You are buying to play the game and see updates on the game.

Yeah, surely plenty people will jump out how they are doing it purely to tip the creator for good work... but that is a loud minority and probably also deluded about their intention. While it might not be "legally" a store, it, for all intents and purposes, IS a store.

It is pretty much a store selling game subscription.

Then how can your theory respond to a ton of Dev's giving out free to play versions of the game? In a lot of cases only delayed for a time and no different then the Patreons access to it. I did provide an exception for games that are only pay walled and there is no Free version to play. In the free version to play scenario it is no different than my analogy.

As far as this site we are pirates whether the Devs provide versions here or not , the devs are not likely stopping F95 from hoisting it. So that part of your theory is moot. It does not matter why the devs do anything as far as F95 is concerned. Look at a lot of successful Devs they offer free to play versions on there own sites in a lot of cases they have figured out it is better a shit ton of people are playing there works because the likely hood of finding people who will tip is increased. the Devs that don't do this generally are not making as much money and their games are niche, hardly a good business model unless you have an advertising campaign. Some do have that you see those games all the time on the tops or bottoms of just about any porn site or even adult game web sites.

 

[araara_commander]

This kinda expected. Uber is always bad at estimating the release date, maybe he just wanted to keep his patrons believing on his project. I'm myself find this annoying and probably will stop subscribing once this update come out. Honestly it could been better if Uber not stated estimated release date, because it's always uncertain and leading to dissapointment. I'd rather him to give a teaser than hopium just to keep his patrons from dropping this project.

 

[Deleted member 568526]

This kinda expected. Uber is always bad at estimating the release date, maybe he just wanted to keep his patrons believing on his project. I'm myself find this annoying and probably will stop subscribing once this update come out. Honestly it could been better if Uber not stated estimated release date, because it's always uncertain and leading to dissapointment. I'd rather him to give a teaser than hopium just to keep his patrons from dropping this project.

I agree I wish that all Devs would stop giving estimates of release dates. It does seem to cause more problems then it is worth. That would only work if supporters would stop demanding release dates. This is a key point, can the Devs just ignore what the supporters say they want?

So here we are Devs suck ass at estimating time it takes and supporters want an expected release date. Which brings us to the place we are.

 

[sandor0011]

This kinda expected. Uber is always bad at estimating the release date, maybe he just wanted to keep his patrons believing on his project. I'm myself find this annoying and probably will stop subscribing once this update come out. Honestly it could been better if Uber not stated estimated release date, because it's always uncertain and leading to dissapointment. I'd rather him to give a teaser than hopium just to keep his patrons from dropping this project.

welcome to the club

 

[ohcmonrest]

v0.68.2a Gallery Unlock

Replace
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Can you make one for the linux version too?

 

[Swordofdragon]

Well, this "remake" should be really useful for new upcoming updates after this, cuz needs result some well written code, if this don't help the programming of the game this will make no sense since the game continue take too long to update, and Uber himself said that he want to focus in small and more constant updates (he said after the last update) and now this remake maybe is his entrance on Steam.
If he continue to get long with updates, i dont know more what he thinks, because in this pace he will finish the game like 5-10 years.
And the game is already 4 years.

 

[araara_commander]

I agree I wish that all Devs would stop giving estimates of release dates. It does seem to cause more problems then it is worth. That would only work if supporters would stop demanding release dates. This is a key point, can the Devs just ignore what the supporters say they want?

So here we are Devs suck ass at estimating time it takes and supporters want an expected release date. Which brings us to the place we are.

Clearly that the main problem of Mega Update. Even if Uber decided to update it regularly each month, people would still have complain, they always will and you can't stop them from demanding something from the Devs¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . It's a huge dilema for the Devs, for me Uber's choice on picking mega update isn't bad, but he just need to stop estimating the release date. Seriously he don't need to stated it, We knew his content will be worth.

Well, this "remake" should be really useful for new upcoming updates after this, cuz needs result some well written code, if this don't help the programming of the game this will make no sense since the game continue take too long to update, and Uber himself said that he want to focus in small and more constant updates (he said after the last update) and now this remake maybe is his entrance on Steam.
If he continue to get long with updates, i dont know more what he thinks, because in this pace he will finish the game like 5-10 years.
And the game is already 4 years.

No doubt.

 

[araara_commander]

welcome to the club

Thanks

 

[chunkas]

The parable of the donkey and the carrot or a fairy tale about Uber and his gullible fans
Once upon a time there was a donkey (hmmm... a gullible Uber's fan). He lived by himself and did not worry about it at all. Once a donkey played an amazing game called "Taffy Tales". Well, well, well. Uber asks the donkey: Did you like the game and maybe you want to continue? And after that the donkey lost his peace. The carrot (update) looked very appetizing, bright orange with a lush lace of green tops, and the donkey eagerly hurried to the treat. But as soon as he approached Uber, he suddenly pulled his hand away and hid the carrot behind his back. "The time has not come yet. Soon you will receive the coveted reward, you just need to wait a little.", - Uber reassured the donkey.
Years have passed ...

Moral: Ok, Uber joked on the first of April. Really, somebody was seriously waiting for the release of the update this weekend??? You just don't know Uber well yet.
To be continued...

 

[Deleted member 568526]

The parable of the donkey and the carrot or a fairy tale about Uber and his gullible fans
Once upon a time there was a donkey (hmmm... a gullible Uber's fan). He lived by himself and did not worry about it at all. Once a donkey played an amazing game called "Taffy Tales". Well, well, well. Uber asks the donkey: Did you like the game and maybe you want to continue? And after that the donkey lost his peace. The carrot (update) looked very appetizing, bright orange with a lush lace of green tops, and the donkey eagerly hurried to the treat. But as soon as he approached Uber, he suddenly pulled his hand away and hid the carrot behind his back. "The time has not come yet. Soon you will receive the coveted reward, you just need to wait a little.", - Uber reassured the donkey.
Years have passed ...
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Moral: Ok, Uber joked on the first of April. Really, somebody was seriously waiting for the release of the update this weekend??? You just don't know Uber well yet.
To be continued...

I will give you credit for your creative writing. question though , so everyone that is a fan of the game is a donkey or just the people paying?

 

[Count Morado]

drivel redacted

To be continued...

The whole moral of the story of the donkey/carrot was about the farmer getting work out of the donkey for free by enticing him with some kind of payment (food) in return - but never paying him.

Let's see - the game is free for us to play for the work Uber and his development team put into it. He does put out updates, even if not as timely as we'd expect, but he does work. We have played without ever paying him.

And, yes, there are subscribers donate to him. If they don't like his work ethic, they can stop (something we have stated over and over again). There are some who do - but the vast majority stay on, and his subscribers continue to rise because the quality of the work the devteam performs, even when it takes longer than people wished.

It really must suck for you to have Uber live rent-free in your mind, day in and day out.

 

[chunkas]

I will give you credit for your creative writing. question though , so everyone that is a fan of the game is a donkey or just the people paying?

If people pay, and in the end they get ears from a dead donkey, what else can they be called?

 

[chunkas]

The whole moral of the story of the donkey/carrot was about the farmer getting work out of the donkey for free by enticing him with some kind of payment (food) in return - but never paying him.

Let's see - the game is free for us to play for the work Uber and his development team put into it. He does put out updates, even if not as timely as we'd expect, but he does work. We have played without ever paying him.

And, yes, there are subscribers donate to him. If they don't like his work ethic, they can stop (something we have stated over and over again). There are some who do - but the vast majority stay on, and his subscribers continue to rise because the quality of the work the devteam performs, even when it takes longer than people wished.

It really must suck for you to have Uber live rent-free in your mind, day in and day out.

Buddy, you may be surprised, but there are still things in the world that are available to any of us absolutely for free. I absolutely don't care how much Uber gets for its work. It's just unpleasant when people are milked with the help of vain expectations. You take any attacks on the developer so warmly to your heart that the thought involuntarily creeps in: maybe you are an Uber
This guy just has to pay you for the work of protecting him here.

 

[Deleted member 568526]

If people pay, and in the end they get ears from a dead donkey, what else can they be called?

Okay fair enough all though I am not in agreement about the milking issue( we can just agree to disagree about that part) , I do agree if you are paying and "very unhappy" about the way things are going and you still choose to continue shelling out your cash then yeah donky's, morons or what ever other suckers term you want to use is "somewhat" reasonable thing to think. Does not mean though that the person doing so will feel the same way as you think they should feel( truthfully every one is a moron in some way, you are , I am and every living soul on the planet is, and the guy who says otherwise is the biggest moron of all )

I don't care about the long releases and I have said this before(like probably the 10th time) I am not shelling out one shingle coin for this here release or any of them for that matter. So I will keep the ears I have now, the ones I was born with work just fine for me

 

[Deleted member 568526]

Buddy, you may be surprised, but there are still things in the world that are available to any of us absolutely for free. I absolutely don't care how much Uber gets for its work. It's just unpleasant when people are milked with the help of vain expectations. You take any attacks on the developer so warmly to your heart that the thought involuntarily creeps in: maybe you are an Uber
This guy just has to pay you for the work of protecting him here.

Sorry for jumping in but seriously protecting Uber LOL. From what a bunch of people (sorry bro but this is what it really is) Crying about release dates?
You think Uber cares? He does not need us to protect him he has a bunch of paying contributors doing that for him none of the guys here saying, " try being reasonable" pay a damn cent to Uberpie LOL.

EDIT: Spelling

 

[araara_commander]

The parable of the donkey and the carrot or a fairy tale about Uber and his gullible fans
Once upon a time there was a donkey (hmmm... a gullible Uber's fan). He lived by himself and did not worry about it at all. Once a donkey played an amazing game called "Taffy Tales". Well, well, well. Uber asks the donkey: Did you like the game and maybe you want to continue? And after that the donkey lost his peace. The carrot (update) looked very appetizing, bright orange with a lush lace of green tops, and the donkey eagerly hurried to the treat. But as soon as he approached Uber, he suddenly pulled his hand away and hid the carrot behind his back. "The time has not come yet. Soon you will receive the coveted reward, you just need to wait a little.", - Uber reassured the donkey.
Years have passed ...
View attachment 1752513
Moral: Ok, Uber joked on the first of April. Really, somebody was seriously waiting for the release of the update this weekend??? You just don't know Uber well yet.
To be continued...

11/10

Love your tale bro

 

[The Dark Moonshine]

I look at donating just like I look at any other tip given. Say I am walking down the street and I hear or see a street performer. I may like or even love what they are doing and " IF " (key word) I have money to spare I will give them a tip. I don't see this as a transaction where I expect to receive something more like I just appreciate what I have received. In essence there is no formal or informal contract between me and the performer.

Essentially this IS what Patreon mostly is ( the exception is when the item on Patreon is behind a paywall to get it, does not apply to any Dev that gives a free to play version ). You are tipping because you like it and have no obligation to continue or do it in the first place.

Of course if no one contributes the street performer/patreon devs will likely not be able to continue performing but there was never any agreement from either party that the performer would be able to make a living doing such, nor is there or should be any expectation from the audience/supporters that the performer will continue to be there day after day or what ever the time line is.

Great explanation, thanks for sharing!

 

[Deleted member 568526]

Great explanation, thanks for sharing!

NP.

I think it is a reasonable perspective, As I said later, in that business model(Patreons model ) this is how it really is unless you hide all your content behind a pay wall and some do. When Dev's offer a free to play version it is no different then what I described. When they offer a pay wall model then to me it is no different than going to a theater and paying for a performance.

In actuality in both models you can still be disappointed with what you get for your money. The difference is, in the case of the street performer you happen upon the performance and everything about that is voluntary , the performer volunteered to be heard or seen and you volunteered to stop and listen, and volunteer to contribute.

In the Pay to see a show type of model(content behind a pay wall) you are actively seeking a entertainment , you know you are going , you planned it and in a sense you have entered into an informal contract to be entertained regardless of the satisfaction of the performance. If you are not entertained you still have no real recourse but you do have more of a right to complain. Post bad reviews , complain to the theater/Dev... for all the good it does.

So in a sense it can't be compared to say buying a TV( an actual product) and not being satisfied and then returning it for your money back. You don't have any rights to recourse unless they give you a money back option if you are not satisfied , and really where in any Artistic endeavor have you ever seen something like that, a satisfaction guarantee in art LOL. You don't even get that when you buy a Major studio video game title.

As far as Milking , there are "probably" Devs that do this( I think there are some that do but with out real proof I am not going to waste my time calling them out and either way it is a waste of energy and time to do so, Just stop giving them your money if you are) but really how can anyone actually prove it. Unless the Dev comes out and says HAHA SUCKERS I GOT YOUR MONEY LOL TO THE BANK BITCHES!!!
No one can read the Devs mind or truly know their intentions.

This is a reasonable way to consider it , because hardly anyone can PROVE anything.

 

[Coolumbus]

i know it's patreon but i really badly want horse and dog content fucking hell they're been on the game banner art since the start and still none