Unity Taffy Tales [S1 v1.1.55 Redux] [UberPie]

[Stil996]

Seriously Bud, try to break up your text, blocks like that are very hard to read.

You didn’t acknowledge that even with all that that the rate we are going at we’re gonna end up with updates every 7-8 months which is literally once a year

Literally means "exactly","real","true", and there are 12 months in a year,
"Literally once a year" = "Exactly once every 12 months".

Not sure why you need me to acknowledge anything about the time?

1. I don't know what their objectives are for each update
2. I know know what obstacles they have
3. I don't know the skill levels of the people involved

If you don't know any of these variables then making an objective judgement about what might be a reasonable time per update is impossible.

and the increasingly concerning side of how the updates are being delayed and just not being delivered on time. I did some coding won a prize for it too and I understand how the more you stack code the harder it becomes to fix WHEN NOT IF it becomes broken that’s reasonable but we’re like 4 years deep into this project with very little Chantelle content way too much Clara content no Tiffany
or additional Content it’s been like two years since we banged Gerda this pacing is abysma,

It's really hard to understand what you are saying here, first it looks like you are agreeing that the delay is justified, you acknowledge that fixing code is hard "WHEN,,, Not IF it becomes broken", particularly when you consider how many different coders have been involved over this projects lifespan.
It sounds like you are agreeing with me in a very argumentative fashion.

Then you go on to make subjective claims about narrative content which have nothing to do with how long it takes to fix issues in the code and release an update.

However I still beyond disagree with your stance since how can ideas run dry when they’ve never even been realized? How can Uber be out of ideas when Raven writes the Lines,

1. " how can ideas run dry when they’ve never even been realized "
   Does the phrase "Writers Block" mean anything in your language?
   
   
2. "How can Uber be out of ideas when Raven writes the Lines"
   1. Who said anything about Uber? I spoke of the project as a team. (When one member of the team is stalled, the whole project is stalled)
   2. I don't know specifics of the relationship between LostRaven and Uber, I imagine Uber writes the story (in broad strokes), who then gives it to LostRaven who cleans up the Engrish, The Typos, The Grammer, changes broad statements like "Beth is pissed at the MC for fucking her teddy bear" into specific dialogue that expresses whatever mood Uber wants.

when again a whole plethora of characters still need content and realization. Even more than that if Uber posted scene teasers every 2-3 months of sex scenes Myself and I assume most others would be quite sated but that’s another discussion.

Irrelevant, this was a discussion about what is a reasonable update schedule, if you want to start a debate about the subjective merits of various narrative paths, then put it in a different post, this post is already too hard to follow without merging two different debates.

 

[PikaChopstick]

You know most of us just want to know whats is going we don't complaign about the time they take we just want to know
most of us know how difficult he can be to create a great game like TT.
But i think ubver try to satisfy NTR fan with delaying news ,right now we are in the IRL NTR road. (it's a joke guys )

the most annoying and difficult part for me is that I understand both sides. I'm on the patreon so I do wanna get results. and it is kinda annoying. i'm trying to be understanding to mitigate any negative feelings that come up. if we don't see another update within a week, I'm gonna message them and just ask them nicely that people are getting antsy and would like an update. they do not seem like the kind of people to take advantage of their fans, or even treat them harshly. so i'm sure they already have something to say, they just wanna finish thing up before they post it. tbh, they could be burning out. in which case, if they are feeling burnt out, I'd rather they go on vacation for a month and relax, then come back to the game refreshed.

i'll try and get in touch with them and come back to you guys as soon as I can.

 

[bobofthebush]

The sad truth is that when Devs earn a lot, they deliver little and when they earn little, they deliver a lot. This is called greed, they get lazy and roll around for the patreons to continue helping, I've seen this happen with all "famous" games within the forum, the only way to reverse this is to stop helping so he can see the numbers dropping fast and start working faster, the table showing the update time only contributes what I think. 2/2/2/2/4/4/4/6/7/6 (at the moment)

You analysis is fundamentally flawed in that:

1) It takes no account of the fact that, as the game grows, the complexity of the coding does as well so each successive update was always likely to take longer.

2) You make no allowance for the fact that the earlier updates were significantly smaller then the updates which followed them and would therefore take longer to produce each update.

If you were going to make the argument you want to make you need to give a breakdown of the number of scenes/images in each update to the number of months for each update.

to simply say it takes longer for each update when the update size has noticeably and significantly grown means very little and doesn't prove anything. The first updates were very small.

that, in my opinion, is to be expected. Games with a low update rate at the start normally fail to get any backing as people are reluctant to back just off one or two updates as there is no sign of commitment and people have been burned a lot by incomplete games.

Once Devs show that they are committed to the projects and have a backing a Patreons updates then tend to get bigger and slower. this works out okay for the devs who express that this is what they are going to do and not so well for those who lack communication as people then think the work has stopped and bail.

Uber has been upfront that the updates were going to get larger and less frequent and also had pretty good (by the standards of the community) communication with those that back him on patreon and discord about what is going on. As a result his general number of patreons is holding steady around 4000-5000 per month and has done now for the past 6 months.

Also, there is still a real incentive for him to release, not just because otherwise people will stop backing, but also the exact opposite. Looking back over the last 3 years, every update has been met with a significant increase in his backers, most of whom then stick around for the next one.

 

[Deleted member 568526]

Here are some things lostraven has said concerning the collaborative nature of the writing

It's hard for me to say, given that Uber takes the story in whatever direction he wants.
If I write a plot outline or script, it's his decision on how much he wants to change and alter the content of that.
https://f95zone.to/threads/taffy-tales-v0-68-2a-uberpie.9861/post-7817622

It's 50/50, I can write what I want, but Uber will change scripts and or request additional scenes.
Ultimately, he can scrap whatever he doesn't like.
https://f95zone.to/threads/taffy-tales-v0-68-2a-uberpie.9861/post-7536593

So when you talk about ease of writing , you should take into account the collaborative nature of the writing and that is always going to take more time than if one guy is writing it.
I mean how many times now has Uber asked for stuff to be changed or added in the last month. Its just one more thing that takes more time than people think add it to the list of updating code and art , plus adding new content.

 

[Dragon_22]

What scene are you referring too?

Back in the days there was a teasing scene with danny, wich u trigger by chosing several books in order. Its been several updates since its gone.

 

[Stil996]

Back in the days there was a teasing scene with danny, wich u trigger by chosing several books in order. Its been several updates since its gone.

Are you talking about the Cosplay scene?
You trigger the books in the right order and get the Vivian picture, that brings with it the prompt for trap content, then later on your little playdate you have the option to push Danny into showing you his roleplaying skills

 

[Deleted member 568526]

Back in the days there was a teasing scene with danny, wich u trigger by chosing several books in order. Its been several updates since its gone.

Are you talking about the Cosplay scene?
You trigger the books in the right order and get the Vivian picture, that brings with it the prompt for trap content, then later on your little playdate you have the option to push Danny into showing you his roleplaying skills

Pretty sure that is still in the game.

 

[Dragon_22]

Are you talking about the Cosplay scene?
You trigger the books in the right order and get the Vivian picture, that brings with it the prompt for trap content, then later on your little playdate you have the option to push Danny into showing you his roleplaying skills

Yes that one, its still on the game?. Well i kinda used codes to start every update (so i dint play that part again). But i aint seen that on the gallery can i still trigger it somehow?

 

[Stil996]

Pretty sure that is still in the game.

yeah I know, I think that cosplay scene used to be much closer to the book scene though maybe in the same event, I can't think of any other scene that Dragon_22 might be thinking off,

 

[Deleted member 568526]

Yes that one, its still on the game?. Well i kinda used codes to start every update (so i dint play that part again). But i aint seen that on the gallery can i still trigger it somehow?

Even though it is not really my thing mind you. I did open that scene, it is on page 26 of the gallery 9th and 10th images. After I had created a save point and then continued on the No Trap content rout. So I can't answer any more than that as far as the rest of what happens in that rout.

As far as still being able to trigger it I don't see why not I would expect you can just go into Danny's room when you are at Clara's and do the mini game then.

 

[Dragon_22]

Even though it is not really my thing mind you. I did open that scene, it is on page 26 of the gallery 9th and 10th images. After I had created a save point and then continued on the No Trap content rout. So I can't answer any more than that as far as the rest of what happens in that rout.

As far as still being able to trigger it I don't see why not I would expect you can just go into Danny's room when you are at Clara's and do the mini game then.

Ok thanks, if this update comes in my lifetime im gonna check it out.

 

[Deleted member 568526]

Ok thanks, if this update comes in my lifetime im gonna check it out.

Hard to say what this update will bring in terms of changes to the game. My guess is though it should still be there. Might want to save the last version just in case though so if it has been changed you can still view it.

 

[Stil996]

Ok thanks, if this update comes in my lifetime im gonna check it out.

Hard to say what this update will bring in terms of changes to the game. My guess is though it should still be there. Might want to save the last version just in case though so if it has been changed you can still view it.

Would be tragic if one of the changes was to remove that scene to be reinserted in some other part of the story.

 

[lordtoto]

Would be tragic if one of the changes was to remove that scene to be reinserted in some other part of the story.

Not necessarily, the Darnell scene with the landlady could be transfer to the potential ntr route, this would be more logical... (I mean they told us specific content would have a specific route.)

 

[[Mister_Arch]]

Jesus I am honestly amazed that you guys have a good full blown conversation on this thread

 

[Deleted member 568526]

Jesus I am honestly amazed that you guys have a good full blown conversation on this thread

It happens from time to time like a cycle that repeats eventually everyone gets it out of there systems and then real content is born!

 

[Stil996]

Jesus I am honestly amazed that you guys have a good full blown conversation on this thread

It happens from time to time like a cycle that repeats eventually everyone gets it out of there systems and then real content is born!

You got to do something to kill the time between updates, besides sometimes you find something new.

 

[TheLonliestFapper]

Seriously Bud, try to break up your text, blocks like that are very hard to read.

Literally means "exactly","real","true", and there are 12 months in a year,
"Literally once a year" = "Exactly once every 12 months".

Not sure why you need me to acknowledge anything about the time?

1. I don't know what their objectives are for each update
2. I know know what obstacles they have
3. I don't know the skill levels of the people involved

If you don't know any of these variables then making an objective judgement about what might be a reasonable time per update is impossible.



It's really hard to understand what you are saying here, first it looks like you are agreeing that the delay is justified, you acknowledge that fixing code is hard "WHEN,,, Not IF it becomes broken", particularly when you consider how many different coders have been involved over this projects lifespan.
It sounds like you are agreeing with me in a very argumentative fashion.

Then you go on to make subjective claims about narrative content which have nothing to do with how long it takes to fix issues in the code and release an update.

1. " how can ideas run dry when they’ve never even been realized "
   Does the phrase "Writers Block" mean anything in your language?
   
   
2. "How can Uber be out of ideas when Raven writes the Lines"
   1. Who said anything about Uber? I spoke of the project as a team. (When one member of the team is stalled, the whole project is stalled)
   2. I don't know specifics of the relationship between LostRaven and Uber, I imagine Uber writes the story (in broad strokes), who then gives it to LostRaven who cleans up the Engrish, The Typos, The Grammer, changes broad statements like "Beth is pissed at the MC for fucking her teddy bear" into specific dialogue that expresses whatever mood Uber wants.

Irrelevant, this was a discussion about what is a reasonable update schedule, if you want to start a debate about the subjective merits of various narrative paths, then put it in a different post, this post is already too hard to follow without merging two different debates.

I didn’t post that to argue with you no I’m not breaking up my post it’s not that serious lol. However your points to me are just as flawed as mine are to you. Literally once a year point stands if we don’t get two updates a year (which at the rate we are going we won’t) then we will literally get one update a year the point stands. If you understand my point then I succeeded in what I wanted which was communication aka getting my point across that’s all the English language is for, attempting to twist my point like that when you knew what I meant is disingenuous. If the whole project is stalled because of??? You didn’t say who was stalled, again how can Uber have run out of ideas when we haven’t seen half of the proposed ideas also he’s doing this for a living this is his job I’m pretty sure he’s not burnt out especially when he’s his own boss. The coder having issues is fine does that issue mean that the game can be delayed multiple times? Not in my book. And even if it’s ok in yours we have yet to see so many things originally set even with these proposed “Mega updates” and even if they have more content I already said it before but it’s still gonna be finished in one night. As for my last point it wasn’t for you because I realized I wanted to state one of my opinions why? Because I wanted to, and I realized I didn’t really want to internet argue but also wanted to disagree with your points. I still don’t see the logic in most of your points and thus I disagreed with them. And if the basis of your argument is the delays and 7 month updates are Ok because it’s more content and Oh he didn’t mean that proposed release date he didn’t use S.M.A.R.T then I’m just fundamentally gonna disagree I’m not too Keen into making excuses for smoke and mirrors.

 

[Stil996]

I didn’t post that to argue with you no I’m not breaking up my post it’s not that serious lol. However your points to me are just as flawed as mine are to you. Literally once a year point stands if we don’t get two updates a year (which at the rate we are going we won’t) then we will literally get one update a year the point stands. If you understand my point then I succeeded in what I wanted which was communication aka getting my point across that’s all the English language is for, attempting to twist my point like that when you knew what I meant is disingenuous. If the whole project is stalled because of??? You didn’t say who was stalled, again how can Uber have run out of ideas when we haven’t seen half of the proposed ideas also he’s doing this for a living this is his job I’m pretty sure he’s not burnt out especially when he’s his own boss. The coder having issues is fine does that issue mean that the game can be delayed multiple times? Not in my book. And even if it’s ok in yours we have yet to see so many things originally set even with these proposed “Mega updates” and even if they have more content I already said it before but it’s still gonna be finished in one night. As for my last point it wasn’t for you because I realized I wanted to state one of my opinions why? Because I wanted to, and I realized I didn’t really want to internet argue but also wanted to disagree with your points. I still don’t see the logic in most of your points and thus I disagreed with them. And if the basis of your argument is the delays and 7 month updates are Ok because it’s more content and Oh he didn’t mean that proposed release date he didn’t use S.M.A.R.T then I’m just fundamentally gonna disagree I’m not too Keen into making excuses for smoke and mirrors.

Your English is poor and your refusal to even attempt to make your post clearer shows contempt for the reader. So forgive me if I don't waste much more time on this.

An update post every 7 months is closer to twice yearly than once a year, saying otherwise demonstrates at best you don't understand the words you are using, at worst you are deliberately trolling.(one update in Jan, another in Aug, is 7 months apart, 2 in one year).

The bulk of this post looks like drivel, and you end by demonstrating you didn't understand anything I posted and certainly not the basis for my argument.

Next time if you disagree or don't understand something try quoting it.

 

[bobby brexit]

Imagine if this update turned out to be 100% NTR path…