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You two are only talking about the "lot of women" in the game - right? Because there is not basis for that opinion in real life situations.

See a good expectation below (though, not scientific - but sounds reasonable)
Yeah I hope your theory is true, the game is getting pretty complicated plot wise so I would not be surprised if we have to wait longer. Its like reading a good book and not being able to finish it you just want more and it bugs you that you can't finish the story(Looking at you Arc Arc Martin -_- ) I don't typically find porn based games with intricate plots like this.
 

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She could be any of those things; regardless, she did raise the MC.

Red didn't appear until the accident so it would be quite a coincidence if she started or stopped the drug at that exact time. The in game theory about that makes more sense except for the third scenario. Submissive MC seems to be fading a bit, although Red seems to be softening in a few cases.
Srry I totally missed your post
  1. Scientists raise lab rats...Does that make them parents?
  2. There is a big point in the game where they note that she did stop giving him medication at that time, did you miss that
    whether she did it by choice, or because it would have interfered with the hospital meds I don't know
  3. in theory 3, the drugs where making him submissive, so no more drugs means submissive blue starts to fade and original Red has the chance to fight for control of his own body. (it could be an analogy of ADHD medication)
  4. Not sure if red was softening, maybe less angry would work?
 

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Red actually complains a bit about feeling guilty and having emotions he does not know how to deal with. I think the two personalities are merging a little and it bugs Red to have a softer side. Softer may fit pretty well. Mary left the drugs out indicating that she was still giving them to the MC and she also says that the MC 's dad gave here a huge supply of them that she has in her room probably locked in the dressor or maybe in the suitcase under the bed. I think it is likely that the drugs stopped working after the accident even though Mary was still slipping them into his food. coupled with the fact that the MC now calls out to red but has no memory of him before the accident indicating he never knew red was there or red was sleeping due to the drug and now that the MC is calling out to red all the time for advice and to take over maybe the drug can't work anymore because the MC is relying on Red too much?
 

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Okay , so I am currently replaying this and I just came across a line from Mary where she says the MC is doing something just like when he was a baby so that blows any theories of MC not being her real son at least it sounded like that. Not going to spell it out any further being we have some who have not completed this build yet.
 

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Okay , so I am currently replaying this and I just came across a line from Mary where she says the MC is doing something just like when he was a baby so that blows any theories of MC not being her real son at least it sounded like that. Not going to spell it out any further being we have some who have not completed this build yet.
Do you think women can only interact with babies they have given birth to?

note: I have never said he couldn't be her son, There is nothing preventing someone from experimenting on their own offspring, and nothing preventing a woman from adopting her former labrat and loving him just like any other mother.

My main point on the original post was challanging the assumption she was his mother, I was not making a definative statment of who she was one way or the other.
 

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Red actually complains a bit about feeling guilty and having emotions he does not know how to deal with. I think the two personalities are merging a little and it bugs Red to have a softer side. Softer may fit pretty well. Mary left the drugs out indicating that she was still giving them to the MC and she also says that the MC 's dad gave here a huge supply of them that she has in her room probably locked in the dressor or maybe in the suitcase under the bed. I think it is likely that the drugs stopped working after the accident even though Mary was still slipping them into his food. coupled with the fact that the MC now calls out to red but has no memory of him before the accident indicating he never knew red was there or red was sleeping due to the drug and now that the MC is calling out to red all the time for advice and to take over maybe the drug can't work anymore because the MC is relying on Red too much?
Yes I noticed that, it strikes me that Red is feeling the pressure of having what is essentially 2 subconsciouses within the same head, and it's his own little mind break that's happening, When you mentioned the drugs and such and how they've been dosing the MC and how it's changed him either while taking them or after stopping them, it gave me an American Ultra vibe (Main guys real persona is locked away through some sort of manipulation)

I do think that now the MC relies on Red more often is indicative of someone who's suffering
 

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Red actually complains a bit about feeling guilty and having emotions he does not know how to deal with. I think the two personalities are merging a little and it bugs Red to have a softer side. Softer may fit pretty well. Mary left the drugs out indicating that she was still giving them to the MC and she also says that the MC 's dad gave here a huge supply of them that she has in her room probably locked in the dressor or maybe in the suitcase under the bed. I think it is likely that the drugs stopped working after the accident even though Mary was still slipping them into his food. coupled with the fact that the MC now calls out to red but has no memory of him before the accident indicating he never knew red was there or red was sleeping due to the drug and now that the MC is calling out to red all the time for advice and to take over maybe the drug can't work anymore because the MC is relying on Red too much?
Yes I noticed that, it strikes me that Red is feeling the pressure of having what is essentially 2 subconsciouses within the same head, and it's his own little mind break that's happening, When you mentioned the drugs and such and how they've been dosing the MC and how it's changed him either while taking them or after stopping them, it gave me an American Ultra vibe (Main guys real persona is locked away through some sort of manipulation)

I do think that now the MC relies on Red more often is indicative of someone who's suffering
Have you ever met someone on meds for a personality disorder (I don't know the names/terms), how they complain about feeling numb, how they want to stop the medication just so they can feel something again.
Thats how I see Red, he has been suppressed so much that the returning sensations/emotions are overwhelming.
 

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It sounds like your referring to Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) It sounds the closest to how the MC in this game behaves at least in the earlier portions, it seems to ease off in the later areas at least a little bit, but that's possibly due to the drugging
 

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Srry I totally missed your post
  1. Scientists raise lab rats...Does that make them parents?
  2. There is a big point in the game where they note that she did stop giving him medication at that time, did you miss that
    whether she did it by choice, or because it would have interfered with the hospital meds I don't know
1. From the perspective of the child, yes they are. There are loads of books, anime and characters like Eleven from Stranger Things that deal with the fallout of being raised by scientists. Granted, you make a good point about Mary not necessarily being his birth mother. That was my assumption.

2. Red's voice starts right when the MC returns home and speaks with Mary after being struck by a car. He has a thought about Mary's ass, questions why he would think that and then collapses and goes to the hospital. If there's some info later that says she stopped giving him meds on that exact day I missed it. I only remember the reveal about the pills that happens much later in the story.
 

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Do you think women can only interact with babies they have given birth to?

note: I have never said he couldn't be her son, There is nothing preventing someone from experimenting on their own offspring, and nothing preventing a woman from adopting her former labrat and loving him just like any other mother.

My main point on the original post was challanging the assumption she was his mother, I was not making a definative statment of who she was one way or the other.
No not at all of course a non biological mother could still feel attached but the act in question
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Look all I am doing is pointing out what is happening in the game fact is we just don't know what Mary's real status is and we may never get the answer unless the writer decides to cover it which they may not be able to , because of Patreon rules. Might be something left unsaid.
 

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No not at all of course a non biological mother could still feel attached but the act in question
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Look all I am doing is pointing out what is happening in the game fact is we just don't know what Mary's real status is and we may never get the answer unless the writer decides to cover it which they may not be able to , because of Patreon rules. Might be something left unsaid.
re: the lactating pills, She's Tiffany's mom right? that is canon. So if she say adopted a lab rat she might need such pills to restart the milk production.

The only point I'm challanging was the "proves" term, I'm not trying to offend anyone or make anyone feel attacked or in any other kind of aggressive/defensive situation.

I'm just pedantic
 

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Have you ever met someone on meds for a personality disorder (I don't know the names/terms), how they complain about feeling numb, how they want to stop the medication just so they can feel something again.
Thats how I see Red, he has been suppressed so much that the returning sensations/emotions are overwhelming.
I actually do know people like that, my father was a shrink with a private practice he had his office in the house so I met a lot of them over the years. The problem is the drugs they have to treat these things are totally fucked up and make the person feel dead but the people who really need those drugs are so fucked up without them that they can't function normally( god I hate that word normally, WTF is normal anyway) and end up hurting themselves or worse yet the people around them.

I see Red as being so possessive that it has morphed into an emotional attachment I view Red and the MC as two sides of the same coin classic schizophrenia , the two sides are slowly merging influencing each other The MC is most certainly being influenced by Red so why wouldn't Red be influenced by the MC?

Its all speculation from everyone here , it is interesting to bounce our idea's off each other I discount none of what is said nor do I think anyone is wrong at this point. The time line is so all over the place there are plot points that may take place earlier or later and until the game is finished it will be really hard to figure it out for sure. I plan my self once this is finished to read back on this thread and see who had it right not for gloating but purely academic. assumming we are all still here at that point wont it be cool to see who's hunches were more correct? I think so but I am a straight out weirdo for sure :) at any rate I mean no offense and I take none either.
 

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re: the lactating pills, She's Tiffany's mom right? that is canon. So if she say adopted a lab rat she might need such pills to restart the milk production.

The only point I'm challanging was the "proves" term, I'm not trying to offend anyone or make anyone feel attacked or in any other kind of aggressive/defensive situation.

I'm just pedantic
No offense taken , but did I say "proves" or was that someone else? can't seem to find that in any of my posts maybe the part where I say " so that blows any theories of MC not being her real son at least it sounded like that " but there is the qualifier at the end of that sentence when I say "at least it sounded that way" means that there is question as to weather it actually is true. I am sorry my style of writing is hard to pin down because I am almost never definitive being there is no way to know the truth.
 
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No offense taken , but did I say "proves" or was that someone else? can't seem to find that in any of my posts maybe the part where I say " so that blows any theories of MC not being her real son at least it sounded like that " but there is the qualifier at the end of that sentence when I say "at least it sounded that way" means that there is question as to weather it actually is true. I am sorry my style of writing is hard to pin down because I am almost never definitive being there is no way to know the truth.
I'm not sure, I thought you said "poves" but if you can't see it in your posts, that would seem to prove I'm wrong lol, I think someone said, though I'm a bit tired (3am here) so it might just be my brain paraphrasing/filling in the blanks or whatever. Either way it wasn't an accusation, just the spirit of my responses, honest it's my brain who is pedantic.... not me :devilish: (damn it where is the angel emoji when you need one)
 

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At the very beginning of the game after the car accident you're supposed to go home and go into the kitchen. But if you try to go upstairs it says verbatim '(Hmm... I hear noises coming from the kitchen. It's probably just mom, but I should go check it out first.)' Those are MCs thoughts. The game won't ever outright claim she's his birth mother because it's against Patreon's ToS. But, it's the only thing that makes sense if you're not just being obtuse for the sake of it. Until the game explains who MCs actual birth mother is and why she's not taking care of him then it's Mary. And adopted/step family is also against Patreon's ToS so that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
 

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I'm not sure, I thought you said "poves" but if you can't see it in your posts, that would seem to prove I'm wrong lol, I think someone said, though I'm a bit tired (3am here) so it might just be my brain paraphrasing/filling in the blanks or whatever. Either way it wasn't an accusation, just the spirit of my responses, honest it's my brain who is pedantic.... not me :devilish: (damn it where is the angel emoji when you need one)

its cool bro , I am pretty easy going I just was not sure what you were referring too, thats all. I am 6 hours behind you but I stay up kind of late these days, winter sucks going to be -30F plus here tonight so I have been kind of glued to my computer for the last few weeks. For me everyone's opinions are of equal value.
 
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That's right, soon Taffy Tales will be able to be a part of your Steam Library! More on this to follow soon...
I hope they've researched the potential things that can get you permanently banned from the listings. A single mention of "highschool" will get you banned with no chance of appeal. They'll need to pretend the school is a college to be accepted by Steam's guidelines.
 

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Can someone give me full walkthrough or a way to get it for the last update please?
Using your favorite web search engine for the words: Taffy Tales Walkthrough

Should result with the site Mejoress as the first, or nearly the first, site and it has a comprehensive walkthrough. Also, this game has a shit-ton of playthrough videos on both YouTube and adult websites, if you get really stuck.
 

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Hit the end of the current content and damn, it's about time the MC finally found grew a backbone and started showing more assertiveness, shame it had to come at the tail end of such a revelation though, although it opens for a possible much darker path to Mary, and IMO she totally deserves it, along with a few others. Looking forward to where this goes next.
 
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