Mrtreak

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The only emotional link Darnell has that is actually built up is the bully dynamic. Thats literally the only dynamic that can play out with him that would make for any semblance on good NTR. And im sorry but im not gonna stick around to see that repeated over and over.

Nah Gerda scene was great. Nipple piercing, shaving, and a rich proud woman turned into a sex slave? it was great, built up quickly and its probably gonna escalate more and more. People are talking about it. People just talk about Becca more because she's in the update like two dozen times more.

I mean i'd argue the gerda scene is better then most of the Dernell and Becca scenes. But youre comparing one scene to a dozen.

All of your examples would make the game a harem game with a different PC. I'd rather just cuck Darnell instead of going through that lmao. Darnell isn't nearly built up enough or has enough character to carry more then one, maybe two ntr scenarios, i'm one hundred percent sure the game would be dogshit if he was the only focus.

Dr.Beatrix is more then good enough to play out an NTR scenario with any character with a single patch. i'd argue she's even better then Darnell right now lol (Darnell is just a bully, Beatrix looks like is going destroy the MC's life). Idk why other characters couldn't be introduced and built up the same way.
You are tying Darnell`s character archtype with NTR scenes being similar, the only thing you got right is that yes darnell is a bully, but he is also a drug dealer,he is also the Mc`s rival in the same school as him, he has multiple ways of corrupting the girls, like i said this character is better built than any other rival/villain the MC has in this game, he doesn`t have to bully the mc or the mc`s girls into a scene, even in this update a lot of it we see it done trough dr. beatrix, and some of these are scenes which don`t come trough bullying, you may feel that they do cause of Darnells personality ,but that doesn`t mean he buillied them, again i gave a couple of examples previously on how scenes and their dynamic might differ.
And most if not all male npc`s in ntr games that fuck the mc`s girl are dominant and to some degree a bully, some just don`t get to bully directly because the mc doesn`t confront them, so if your problem is that it`s boring that the guy that steals your girls is dominant or acts like a bully, then you are in the wrong genre.

What is there to escalate more with Gerda from an NTR point of view? you said it she`s a sex slave so what emotional link is there left to escalate? Again you are making my point for me, the two key factors of NTR are gone and it`s left just corruption. And that is my point that you keep missing once the character goes that route it`s done, she`s public property ,the NTR content after it`s not gonna be the same with that character.
From an NTR perspective Gerda scene is not as good,maybe you could argue from a corruption perspective but even then in the long run i think people playing this route back, would still prefer scene by scene becca or mary scenes more.

Dr.Beatrix can introduce other characters this way and if done right NTR might even be good ,i just think regardless none of the characters that will be introduced this way ,will carry the same level of quality from an NTR point of view like Darnell can.

"Idk why other characters couldn't be introduced and built up the same way."Like i said previously you are arguing for a game that updates once a year to introduce characters that start at step 1 rather then go with a character that is already at step 3 and get better content, if you want to constantly see step 1 year after year , than that is fine but most of us i think just want quality, non teasing content for both routes.

"All of your examples would make the game a harem game with a different PC. I'd rather just cuck Darnell instead of going through that". And you can do that on the main route but again you are wrong on a bunch of things , it cannot be a harem game when you have another guy stealing Mc`s girls and you experince that from the MC perspective,even if it is done by just one dude, some of the best NTR out there are this way.
 

ZUBiDAM

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it seems like Darnell is the main player for the ntr route, also i think what beatrix seems to be trying to do is probably for Darnell to change his stance with roger, maybe he will overcome him and not be anyone's underling.
but Darnell is still Beatrix pawn, there are other characters who could play a part, mainly principal walter
 

Kulman

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Any other games with well toned fit girls like Chantelle and Tiffany? I feel we either get the classic "fit" but not really toned like this or straight up huge amazonian women.
 
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kirian2014

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"people talk to bartenders, right?" anyone know how to complete this? I've already talked to officer swam about Beatrix.
 

Count Morado

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"people talk to bartenders, right?" anyone know how to complete this? I've already talked to officer swam about Beatrix.
If you have played either of the previous 2-3 updates, you know where the bartender is. If you look at the Taffy Tales map, you can see two places where there would be a bartender. Otherwise, here's speed run video: #29,323
 

oste22

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One thing in this world is for certain, every TT update will have atleast one Clara scene :HideThePain: At this pace next update will have Tiffany photoshoot with groping and masturbation like Chantelle one, so in 2 years we will get maybe HJ if we are lucky. It took 2 Tiffany updates to get to groping like cmon man, you expect Marry to get more content now going forward but she also gets next to nothing. Only explanation is that someone is paying big bucks to push Clara or Uber is bringing his highschool fetish to life or something.
 

rfsniper

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Everyone, you have all waited 8 months or so for this major update yes? May as well play it all and see what's up rather than cheat yourself a free experience.

There are actually 2 simple ways to play both routes and even enjoy them: in the NTR route, MC is such a boring and passive loser, why would anyone want to project themselves onto him? So you can play the game just like it is, a game with characters and you are a player. They have no control over your psyche, and if they do, get that checked out and see if Red's in your noggin. The other way, if you must project yourself, just embody Darnell. Drop the racism in your mind; not everything is tailored to the fragile white male fantasy, as painful as that may sound.

Last of all, if you actually enraged by the development, consider that you may have spent too much time and focus on a porn game. Grass and real ass is nice. Get some
 

oste22

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Everyone, you have all waited 8 months or so for this major update yes? May as well play it all and see what's up rather than cheat yourself a free experience.

There are actually 2 simple ways to play both routes and even enjoy them: in the NTR route, MC is such a boring and passive loser, why would anyone want to project themselves onto him? So you can play the game just like it is, a game with characters and you are a player. They have no control over your psyche, and if they do, get that checked out and see if Red's in your noggin. The other way, if you must project yourself, just embody Darnell. Drop the racism in your mind; not everything is tailored to the fragile white male fantasy, as painful as that may sound.

Last of all, if you actually enraged by the development, consider that you may have spent too much time and focus on a porn game. Grass and real ass is nice. Get some
It’s not that deep man, it’s just a game. Look at it like a disappointment when a movie that was hyped up ends up being bad.
 

bobofthebush

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*apologies, i've gone on a much longer rant than intended. It is just a rant on what I think the broader problems are and how to fix it. If you're not interested just skip to the next message*

I never thought there would come a time when I was seriously considering not downloading an update of this game. Alas, here we are.

I know not, what the original plan for the game was, in terms of how the plot was meant to progress. However, I doubt it was this. At the moment I fear the future of this game is not good, though the only way to find out will be in 8-9 months time when the next update drops.

I get the Uber likes NTR, I get that he wanted a game with that in it. I get that an active part of the fan base tried to dissuade him from producing such content. the issue is, in trying to keep people happy (his non NTR fans and himself) he has produced what appears to be agreed upon as a cack update.

My bigger worry is that this will not simply set the benchmark for the future. 2 distinct games, simply means two plots to update every time. Those that dislike NTR probably outweigh those that like it amongst his paying backers. Waiting 16 months for an update you like is unlikely to encourage payment. In the rush to get 2 updates out wat appears, from reviews, to have been made is badly enacted game where one of the main attractions, the artwork, has been lost.

There are, as I see it, three key strengths to the game. Firstly, was the original non AI artwork. Secondly was the dynamic of the main character and Red which was a pretty unique (in the porn game world) story point. The final one is Lostraven's ability to bring it all to life.

If this game is going to keep backers long enough to get finished Uber, to my mind needs to do one of two things. He can either:

1) Accept that at the early stage he sold out. Its not a criticism. I think most people will get why he did; but he sold out the NTR storyline to keep backers and make, what is now, a lot of money. Trying to go back and shoe horn together a story line or develop two games at the same time is not going to win anyone over.

2) Actually tell one single story, that is compelling has all the features that people like and incorporates NTR. To be fair, it is not even a difficult story to put together. The storyboard will go something like this:

a) MC is a weed, the "bad character (so far Darnell but I haven't played) is banging blonde haired girl from school
b) Darnell makes a move on, and manages to add sister to harem
c) Accident happens Red is created
d) Darnell move on Becca. Red offers to take over to stop. MC declines on basis Becca not going to do it.
e) Darnell land Becca, but not fully corrupt her.
f) Darnell makes move on MC mother, this time MC gives into Red to stop.
g) Red go too far, MC lands his own mother, appalled but gets taste for it
h) MC goes on to bang and fully corrupt Becca, and then goes on to get everyone else in town
i) Game conclude with full harem and banging Darnell mother and sister in front of him.

All of the other story elements, about MC's father, why it is that Red is created, organisations etc can be fitted around the above storyline. Brings in the NTR, in a way that fits a complete storyline, can resurface at various points depending on how you want to develop the plot and is probably palatable to the more anti-NTR crowd. Does not do away with the "Red" character, which is a key dynamic that most people like. Lets you work on one single story line.

In either version he needs to retain Lostraven to help write it all. He needs to get back to doing more of the artwork, certainly for the sex scenes where it matters, the rest can be AI filler to speed up progress. He also needs to stick to a story line and go with it. At the moment it feels like what happens is, after every update, he then sits down and tries to figure out the next part of the story with little to no idea about how it fits together.

If there was an over arching story, there would be no need to keep re-working the start to the extent it has been.
 

Hugmrt

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Everyone, you have all waited 8 months or so for this major update yes? May as well play it all and see what's up rather than cheat yourself a free experience.

There are actually 2 simple ways to play both routes and even enjoy them: in the NTR route, MC is such a boring and passive loser, why would anyone want to project themselves onto him? So you can play the game just like it is, a game with characters and you are a player. They have no control over your psyche, and if they do, get that checked out and see if Red's in your noggin. The other way, if you must project yourself, just embody Darnell. Drop the racism in your mind; not everything is tailored to the fragile white male fantasy, as painful as that may sound.

Last of all, if you actually enraged by the development, consider that you may have spent too much time and focus on a porn game. Grass and real ass is nice. Get some

Can't even do that as hitting New Game for the NTR route after completing the normal route just crashes to desktop.

2) Actually tell one single story, that is compelling has all the features that people like and incorporates NTR. To be fair, it is not even a difficult story to put together. The storyboard will go something like this:
The problem is incorporating it into the main game is it'd wind up like the Danny sissification shit. Even if you nope the fuck out every time it pops up the game still acts like it happened and harrasses you to watch the new scenes.
 
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