Unity Taffy Tales [S1 v1.0.35 Redux] [UberPie]

[balvenie1401]

It cannot go on as it is now
The current system is completely full of holes and an invitation for fraudsters.
Needs a change, urgently.

Pay per build ensures that there are no more scammers, if it means that future developers have to bring some capital with them (from the start) is even another reason that the whole project runs honestly because once the developer puts his hard-earned money to start a project, he will handle his work more responsibly.
By having a sword of Damocles over his head he will make sure that he often releases updates & keep lying will be punished with sanctions.


Another option would be: An advance payment with consumer protection (similar to PayPal's buyer protection)
Supporters could send money in advance and if the dev will not release a update in an certain time frame, you can withdraw the money.


Or a middle ground:
You could do the whole thing like this, for example, initially it is billed monthly and if about three times the developer is releasing very slowly or not at all, his account is penalized (strikes) & from then on he is only allowed to debit per build.
This method won't completely eliminate fraud, it will still force it out a lot.

Why..?

Potentially fraudulent/milking devs are not the problem, never was. The problem is stupid people giving said devs money expecting something in return and feeling butthurt afterwards, crying about it feeling sorry for themselves.

I'm not condoning scamming/milking but if people did their DDs and used some common sense it wouldn't be an issue.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

Why..?

Potentially fraudulent/milking devs are not the problem, never was.
The problem is stupid people giving said devs money expecting something in return and feeling butthurt afterwards, crying about it feeling sorry for themselves.

It's like saying fraudulent sellers on Ebay are not the problem, just the stupid, naive buyers who transfer money to them

I'm not condoning scamming/milking but if people did their DDs and used some common sense it wouldn't be an issue.

As you can see, the market doesn't regulate itself, it's a myth.
I also understand why Patreon, Subscribestar and other platforms are not introducing pay per build because of greed for profit.
Fraud need to be dealt preventively.
Patreon & SubStar need some security measures against scam.
Of course you can say "if people let themselves be fooled, it's there own fault".
That's irresponsible not everyone is skeptical like you & and many are naive.
The "Scam is not the problem, the dumb supporter is" argument was also used for loot boxes, ultimate team and gambling which are now illegal (in some parts of europe atleast).

 

[balvenie1401]

It's like saying fraudulent sellers on Ebay are not the problem, just the stupid, naive buyers who transfer money to them


As you can see, the market doesn't regulate itself, it's a myth.
I also understand why Patreon, Subscribestar and other platforms are not introducing pay per build because of greed for profit.
Action needs to be taken and fraud need to be dealt preventively.
Patreon & SubStar need some security measures against scam.
Of course you can say "if people let themselves be fooled, it's there own fault".
That's irresponsible not everyone is skeptical like you & and many are naive.
This saying was also used for loot boxes, ultimate team and gambling which are now finally illegal in some parts of europe atleast.

Just no, let's agree to disagree on this one to put it mildly.

I don't know what you mean by " the market selfregulating is a myth", as far as I know it does and always has.. Are you referring to people who claims they're being scammed/milked and still continue to pay in naive hope for change?? If so, no! The market is not responsible for the incompetence of it's participants.. If you're referring to something else, please enlighten me..

I don't really see your ebay/patreon comparison either to be honest.. a "one and done" service and a "monthly contribution" isn't really comparable. But too your point; yes even on ebay/amazon etc you as a buyer should protect your own interest and do your DDs before buying.. anything less would be stupid.
On the other hand paypal is a great toll for stupid/naive people since their buyers protecting is excellent.

Claiming "irresposibilty" on my or other parts behalf implies we're responsible for other people's actions to begin with, which is just ludacris.

As a footnote Patreon has the "pay per creation" option but for obvious reasons most creators don't use it.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

I don't know what you mean by " the market selfregulating is a myth", as far as I know it does and always has..

There is no such thing as free market it cannot exist in a state.
Only possible in an anarchy.
Most of us live in western "democracies" & our states use social market economy.

Are you referring to people who claims they're being scammed/milked and still continue to pay in naive hope for change?? If so, no! The market is not responsible for the incompetence of it's participants.. If you're referring to something else, please enlighten me..

Nope, I mean that good products and manufacturers prevail and bad ones are sorted out naturally < that's a myth.
Example: Amazon's own products are waste and sell like hotcakes because they have such market power that they simply devour the competition

I don't really see your ebay/patreon comparison either to be honest.. a "one and done" service and a "monthly contribution" isn't really comparable. But too your point; yes even on ebay/amazon etc you as a buyer should protect your own interest and do your DDs before buying.. anything less would be stupid.

So in your worldview, such form of fraud doesn't exist? because you put all the blame on the consumer
If someone has good ratings and everything looks perfect in the photos, the description fits either but the article that is delivered is completely different how should the customer proceed then, is he to blame?

On the other hand paypal is a great toll for stupid/naive people since their buyers protecting is excellent.

There you have your solution for the light-hearted buyer

Claiming "irresposibilty" on my or other parts behalf implies we're responsible for other people's actions to begin with, which is just ludacris.

Of course not you youre just a pirate like we all here are im talking about greedy devs or billion dollar companys that using that statement like EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard used to get rid of accusations.

As a footnote Patreon has the "pay per creation" option but for obvious reasons most creators don't use it.

The obvious reasons are bad intentions, fraudsters don't use it, otherwise they couldn't cheat

 

[Noambonsky]

There is no such thing as free market it cannot exist in a state.
Only possible in an anarchy.
Most of us live in western "democracies" & our states use social market economy.
Yeah i know our states aren't perfect nowhere near, if our states weren't infiltrated by lobbyists we the normal wage earners would hardly pay taxes
and the big tech companies had to pay huge taxes but unfortunately in practice we pay the high taxes and the big companies look for loopholes so that they pay almost nothing.

Nope, I mean that good products and manufacturers prevail and bad ones are sorted out naturally < that's a myth.
Example: Amazon's own products are waste and sell like hotcakes because they have such market power that they simply devour the competition


So in your worldview, internet fraud doesn't exist? because you put all the blame on the consumer
If someone has good ratings and everything looks perfect in the photos and the description fits but the article that is delivered is completely different how should the customer proceed then, is he to blame?


There you have your solution for the light-hearted buyer


Of course not you youre just a pirate like we all here are im talking about greedy devs or billion dollar companys that using that statement like EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard used to get rid of accusations.

The obvious reasons are bad intentions, fraudsters don't use it, otherwise they couldn't cheat

I have been saying things like this for awhile, watch your comments get deleted for being off topic. The sycophants just don't care about how many good arguments you make how much sense you make etc, all they care about is attaining some sort of fulfillment and gratification through these promised "products".
They are like drug addicts chasing the next hit, but for them the big hit is all the flashy previews and what could be. Could my fantasy's be fulfilled this time could this make up for the lack of love and intimacy in my real life etc.
They don't even understand themselves bit much to ask for them to understand the world around them.

 

[Sewerewolf]

Hey go argue elsewhere mates, here is to share games or other content and it's not how the market works.

 

[balvenie1401]

There is no such thing as free market it cannot exist in a state.
Only possible in an anarchy.
Most of us live in western "democracies" & our states use social market economy.

Nope, I mean that good products and manufacturers prevail and bad ones are sorted out naturally < that's a myth.
Example: Amazon's own products are waste and sell like hotcakes because they have such market power that they simply devour the competition


So in your worldview, such form of fraud doesn't exist? because you put all the blame on the consumer
If someone has good ratings and everything looks perfect in the photos, the description fits either but the article that is delivered is completely different how should the customer proceed then, is he to blame?


There you have your solution for the light-hearted buyer


Of course not you youre just a pirate like we all here are im talking about greedy devs or billion dollar companys that using that statement like EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard used to get rid of accusations.

The obvious reasons are bad intentions, fraudsters don't use it, otherwise they couldn't cheat

Well, we don't agree on a single topic so far, let's leave it at that and agree to disagree.

Feel free to DM if you want to debate the state of the market and it's participants, I doubt we'll find common ground but we should at least move from this thread since we're getting wildly off topic, appologies mods..

 

[TheLonliestFapper]

Ah yes pointless and fruitless Socio-Economic debates on a porn forum. My favorite kind of debates! Where else will I get to see such entertainment?

 

[Bootyjuice548]

From netorare arguments to the free market, Adam smith would be so proud

 

[RedTide17]

From netorare arguments to the free market, Adam smith would be so proud

Nuff said my fellow F95zonian

 

[ForenZiks]

Nah but for real even though the delay's suck this game was clearly made well enough if it pushed us past angry horny and into wisdom horny.

 

[qwartzy]

that post nut clarity power is getting out of control here

 

[Anthony2]

isnt the next update about danny the trap i prob wont even play the next update i bet most wont aswell

 

[Azraelith]

'i bet most wont'

According to... whom? You? Don't speak for others as if you're the premier on game play my dude. If it's NOT about danny I probably won't play. He's a good girl because he knows what boys want.

 

[pussyreaperxxx]

isnt the next update about danny the trap i prob wont even play the next update i bet most wont aswell

Speak for yourself, the whole point of this game is over the top character design and different kinks. Most of the content added to the game so far is BDSM, humiliation and a lot of taboo. I don't even understand why it attracts so much vanilla porn audience in the first place. Also, personally kinda bored with bimbo characters getting most of the porn.

 

[Davion98@!]

Guys for some reason when playing the game again, my save was deleted and nowhere to be found, can someone please share their save with me please

 

[Anthony2]

Speak for yourself, the whole point of this game is over the top character design and different kinks. Most of the content added to the game so far is BDSM, humiliation and a lot of taboo. I don't even understand why it attracts so much vanilla porn audience in the first place. Also, personally kinda bored with bimbo characters getting most of the porn.

i still said most people not all people im not upset hes getting a focus update just so many continue to complain late update when the next one most people dont want to see that content anyway

 

[bluef95zone]

Is it tomorrow that the game will be launched (07/09)?
And, is the update going to be about Danny?

 

[Davion98@!]

Is it tomorrow that the game will be launched (07/09)?
And, is the update going to be about Danny?

It looks more focused on Sara

 

[duckthedoctor]

Is it tomorrow that the game will be launched (07/09)?
And, is the update going to be about Danny?

why you think will be launched tomorrow?